So I have my lovely Tytn with it's front facing camera, and a microphone on the bottom... bit like a PC with a webcam and a mike. When I use my PC, I can have instant messenger chats with my friends using audio and video. Is there an app for WM5 which does this- typing is all very well and good, but when the hardware for sound and video is there, seems a shame not to use it.
Any ideas, anyone?
Oh yeah, and I have thought about the perenial (a) it takes too much bandwidth or (b) just get a video call enabled SIM. Bandwidth-wise, I used to conference call with video from my PC using a 56k modem, and as for (b), well I want to call people running MSN messenger on PCs, 'cos no one I know actually uses a 3G phone with video capabilities (apart from me!!).
Thanks all!
Cool Camera again...
Did you Try Cool Camera? Windows Live Messenger Mobile don't support the c front cam.
THE FIRST OFFICIAL APPLICATION THAT WILL SUPPORT THE FRONT CAMERA WILL BE SKYPE 2.5 FOR WINDOWS MOBILE AKU 3.5
Thanks! I'll give Cool Camera a go... hopefully it'll do what I want it to; I assume I won't be able to have a "full" video call (eg see the other person)?
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Dear all,
I have been wondering if there is an application with messenger, which would have hermes frontcam as a webcam. After a long search I did not manage to find any apps like this. (with this i mean an app, which is running on the WM, NOT on PC).
However I came across one opinion about the thing that it could NOT be possible, since the heavy need of processing of the cam. I started thinking is that right, how much processing speed does it need to run a webcam with like only few pictures per second and a basic chat app running on msn messenger standard.
In my unprofessional opinion that should be possible, and if it is, why isnt anyone else interested in this kind of a thing, and why its not available.
Please somebody, do that kind of an application so I wouldnt have to learn WM PPC programming just because to do that.
or alternatively, prove me wrong.
/Henry
It is defenately possible. I use Web Camera plus and you phone will act as a perfect webcam. You can even choose if you want the front cam or normal cam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
It is defenately possible. I use Web Camera plus and you phone will act as a perfect webcam. You can even choose if you want the front cam or normal cam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
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Thanks for the cool info!
Unfortunately that is working as a webcam for a messenger running on a PC only.. Not for messenger application running on my Hermes itself.
Is this impossible, is this going to be my Alamo?
/Henry
Ow, that i do not know. I'm not aware of an app that can do that, allthough i think it should be possible.
Maybe someone else can help you.
Im going to have to say that i doubt such a program exists or will exist.
MSN uses a lot of processing power to convert raw video into a streamed format.
Just because it is possible to do 3G video calls doesnt mean that MSN will use the same compression method.
What they'd first need to develop is voice calls through MSN. Not just voice clips.
hey, check out microsoft portrait, it has an app for both PC and PPC it is actually a development for voice/cam chat for portable devices, work on my wizard, however I don't have a hermes, so you will just need to try it and see, post back the results.
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
on my wizard it does have a drop down for the different cameras it detects, however the wizard only has one camera, so i believe it may bring up both cameras on the hermes
hey, check out microsoft portrait, it has an app for both PC and PPC it is actually a development for voice/cam chat for portable devices, work on my wizard, however I don't have a hermes, so you will just need to try it and see, post back the results.
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
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Cool stuff! Will try it out as soon as I get a internet connection.. Just now Im located in Netherlands (against my will ) without internet subscription and with horrible dutch 3g data transfer pricing.
Reporting back from Finland! The land of the thousands lakes and stuff..
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sry for that.. just noticed that the file is actually under 1 meg.. so even I can afford that with stupid dutch pricing..
I tried to install it but i couldn't
I've got the last windows installer but the msi gives me a error message every time (i'm running a windows xp professional sp2)
I tried to install it but i couldn't
I've got the last windows installer but the msi gives me a error message every time (i'm running a windows xp professional sp2)
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I will try that out later tonight. Which version of WM are you running? 5 or 6? and which version of the phone you have? ..or maybe you ment that its not installing on your computer..
I mean that is not installing on my computer, if I transfer the file to my hermes, it doesn't work either.
Does it work for you ?
I'm on WM6 (Schaps version 3.54c)
Here's one stupid question.
Altrough the camera seems to be ok in terms of hardware drivers i can't seem to find any utility to start it neither in control pannel or anywhere else. I cannot use it in yahoo messenger or similar services. Can someone enlight me about that camera?
camera does work , but only in MSN messenger
I played with the camera too...
The only program that recognizes the camera, and uses it OK , is MSN (live) messenger.
X-Lite (Voip Software with camera option) usually detects any camera I got.
However, on the Shift, no joy !
Also, another program called WinTLV (Superb windows time lapse recording software)
does not see the camera.
Drivers...drivers...drivers.... c'mon HTC .. supply us with new ones
Py Software Active Webcam
killer_t, what are you trying to tell us?
Camera Works
The camera i test it with many programs and is working in skype msn and other programs automatically but i dont know how to start it alone i mean not through other programs
mw65719 said:
killer_t, what are you trying to tell us?
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With the program Active Webcam from Py Software can use the build-in Shift camera.. You can do video and photo
yep the Active Web Cam program works. I've tested it yesterday without any problems. However the program can't facilitate the usage of the camera with other programs.
I want to run the camera alone to take photo, do you guys know any good software out there with good and clean interface which does this job?
I use Dorgem v2.1.0 it's a small and freeware software.
http://dorgem.souceforge.net
gdlc said:
I use Dorgem v2.1.0 it's a small and freeware software.
http://dorgem.souceforge.net
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it doesn't seems to have a preview windows, does anyone else know anything better then this?
It has. Click on the preview button
Nice little camera app. Thanks.
Yu can use this one too
http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/index.html
I had the same problem of the camera showing as installed but not recognised by MSN, Skype, etc. So I just deleted the driver (from Device manager). Windows then rediscovered it and then it worked fine!
I have been using "cheese" on ubuntu. it has preview and can be used to capture video or still pictures.
thaihugo said:
Yu can use this one too
http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/index.html
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This one is more than capable. The one posted earlier on page 1 (can't remember what it's called) has been discontinued.
But the one quoted above is perfect just for using the camera for point and shoot, video or stills.
Thanks.
Edit>>Struggles a bit with video (low frame rate, a bit like video calling quality, or like video phone you see on the news!) but I haven't really had a good luck around the settings yet too see if it can be manually improved.
I have installed the Debut Video Capture Software on my Shift, but when I run it it defaults to 'screen' which replicates my screen image but when I click 'Device' the selection remains at screen. I can't see any options to enable my camera device.
Anyone know what to do next?
(The dorgem one worked fine so my Shift hardware is not in question.)
Camera software
I tried a program called "AMCap" that I had. (You will have to Google for it, I can't remember where I got my).
It seems to catch the video & audio and lets me take stills and such.
I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum for this request, but it seemed the most logical place as it concerns all devices.
Windows Live Messenger is a great app for chatting oldschool... But why do that when we have built-in cameras on the front of our phones? See where i'm going with this?
I'm no programmer or anything, but seeing that there are applications which make use of the camera of the phone as a webcam for the PC, wouldn't it be possible to use the front camera for video on mobile messenger?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Sorry wont happen, the app isnt open source. Closest you could get is if the device is running linux and someone somehow got aMSN working or equivilant.
Maybe a tool like messenger? The point is, i'd like to use my front camera to talk to friends without having to pay 50 eurocents a minute for it. (that's $1.10 a minute)
So, if anyone knows a tool or program that does just that, it'd be fine.
Would it be possible to use either the front facing or rear camera as a webcam in a program such as live messenger or skype on the touch hd?
elmarko99 said:
Would it be possible to use either the front facing or rear camera as a webcam in a program such as live messenger or skype on the touch hd?
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Yes, check out
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
and
http://www.warelex.com/products/webcam/
You could search the forum too...
While it is interesting to be able to use the HD as a webcam on the PC. It would be more interesting to be able to use Skype webcam directly from the HD (in house).
This one claims to do video calls via IP directly from VideoPhones without going through your provider. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it supports Skype. http://www.octro.com/
Yes, check out
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
and
http://www.warelex.com/products/webcam/
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Have you checked it out yourself???
Forget it! Part of the first is the well known "Cool Camera" prog 1.15. And Cool Camera doesn't work on the HD.
Also your second advice isn't running on the HD.
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While it is interesting to be able to use the HD as a webcam on the PC. It would be more interesting to be able to use Skype webcam directly from the HD (in house).
This one claims to do video calls via IP directly from VideoPhones without going through your provider. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it supports Skype. http://www.octro.com/
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I think that's what the topic user is aiming at, using the front camera as a webcam in programs on the HD itself.
Would be kinda cool .
yeah sorry maybe i didn't make my question clear... I was wondering if you could have the camera working as a webcam purely on the phone. Videocalling over IP or sending video through windows live messenger for mobile.
did a search on the forums but nothing came up. i'm surprised and can't see why it's not been done. it's possible on desktop pcs so why not mobile devices?
is it too much data to send? i would have thought HSDPA would be fast enough.
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is it too much data to send? i would have thought HSDPA would be fast enough.
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Standard 3G can manage video phonecalls, which are essentially identical to net video calls. Maybe internet calls have a little extra overhead and need slightly more cunning programming to overcome the lack of a dedicated network, but otherwise it's the same thing.
As far as I understand HTC's strategy is one of supporting and working with the carriers. As the carriers want us (in Europe at least) to make high-priced, and therefore high margin, video calls via our cam equipped devices, HTC disabled the front cam for any internet chatting, or voip calls.
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Have you checked it out yourself???
Forget it! Part of the first is the well known "Cool Camera" prog 1.15. And Cool Camera doesn't work on the HD.
Also your second advice isn't running on the HD.
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You asked for the software that provides a webcam interface to PC, not whether it's compatible with Touch HD. You can test yourself if you want.
stepw said:
You asked for the software that provides a webcam interface to PC, not whether it's compatible with Touch HD. You can test yourself if you want.
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You are funny Threadname is Webcam on the HD
BTW, at the moment i try to find a way to use a programm named "Kai´s mirror". But it goes slowly. Front cam goes at least... If i break through i will give a message.
Hi guys, I bought an HTC HD mini and I'm just discovering I cannot make video calls...
So I would ask 2 questions:
1.. is there a way to enable video calling on HTC or it does not support video call at all ??
2.. is there a way (some application or what else) enabling to video call a cellular over 3G/wifi ?
Thanks in advance....
Hm... how do you want to be seen in a video call when the cam is on the backside?
ok... that's right... but (of course) my goal is to see the other person...
My goal is to see my baby when I'm out for work
u can use a program which generates a web address,so you just go on that site from phone and see your baby
webcam xp does that if i'm not wrong.
Doubt it will ever be possible, but in theory a software app could be written for it.
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Surfing on the web, I've just found this product: Comvu LiveCast (http://www.comvu.com/corporate/solutions-enterprise.html)
The idea is the same as for webcam xp but should work even on a phone (which makes the actual video) and does not require a pc/webcam to make the video.
Has anyone any info/feedback about it ?
Thanks