Are there any ACTIVE developers on the Wallaby side of Xanadux/Familiar?
Or is it dead right now like I fear?
I'd love to have my Wallaby be running fully open-source software
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Hey all,
I've just got hold of a HTC Alpine and was looking to get either WM5 or WM6 working on it. (Don't stop reading this isn't a "is there a rom update available? question").
I've noticed that people have sucessfully developed new osroms for others like the Blue Angel (I used to have one , but obviously nobody has for the Alpine, so I thought I'd try to knock one up myself.
However, I've fallen quite out of my depth. Can anybody provide some bullets about how the Blue Angel osroms were produced, in fact any guidance or "don't even bother" flames are appreciated.
So far I have done this:
1) I've run up my own extrom and upgraded the radio so I now have a feel for flashing it and such.
2) I've got the old osrom and tried to extract it (hoping for salvagable drivers from wince 4 that might port across) - unfortunatly I can't figure out how to pull the thing apart. I've seen some perl scripts floating about, but if anybody could point me to the latest version of the right one it would be appreciated.
3) I've got my hands on a copy of the platfrom builder for wince 5 (I know both WM5/WM6 are based upon it) - however have now discovered that windows mobile itself isn't included :-(.
I'm probably not even going through the right motions, or it might be plain impossible, but at least I'll know.
Thanks in advance,
Josh
As far as I know they got the rom from another phone with a newer os, transfered the drivers and removed some things that would not work with the ba.
I'm pretty sure that isn't this simple but is something like this
Unfortunately this is a "don't even bother" post.
ROMs are cooked for devices that either:
a) Have a brother with almost identical hardware that got a newer OS. (like prophet / wizard duo)
b) Have a test version of newer OS leaked but never released.
Because driver architecture is different between WM 2003 and WM 5 even if you could take the ROM apart you could not just take the WM 2003 drivers and use them with WM 5 OS .
As for Platform Builder - nothing there. To build a ROM for a device you need its BSP (Board Support Package) which is what lets you compile a ROM for specific hardware. As far as I know one of those has never ever been leaked from HTC (or other OEM).
Plus, to get your hands on a Windows Mobile version of PB (yes it is actually a different version) you need to be an OEM or a "MS partner" company.
Right, well if the driver architecture has changed then I'm pretty much buggered for plan a.
The blue angel is pretty similar driver wise, isn't it? As far as I can tell the only differences are the camera and the lack of a keyboard (obviously ram/proc too). But I suppose the ASICs/CPLDs are nothing like each other. So that plan's probably out of the window too.
It's not looking too hopeful at the moment....
Josh
jleahy said:
Right, well if the driver architecture has changed then I'm pretty much buggered for plan a.
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The drivers are completely different between the two devices. While you probably would be able to extract a number of drivers from the Alpine WM2003 ROM, and while (with luck) they could/should work in the (ported) WM5 OS ROM, there is another MAJOR hurdle which would need to be overcome ...
jleahy said:
The blue angel is pretty similar driver wise, isn't it? As far as I can tell the only differences are the camera and the lack of a keyboard (obviously ram/proc too). But I suppose the ASICs/CPLDs are nothing like each other. So that plan's probably out of the window too.
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That's exactly the issue - the Alpine, while being VERY similar to the Blue Angel is different enough in the hardware to not be able to use the same code. In every ROM there is a Boot portion which is device specific (XIP section), which initializes the hardware before the OS starts - very similar to the BIOS in your PC. There has been (very) limited success in getting the Alpine to boot using a Blue Angel based ROM, but it HAS been done.
The largest problem is that there is no support for initializing the Radio ROM - i.e. phone support. So, while we MIGHT be able to make a ROM which can boot on the Alpine, we would only be able to make one which (MOSTLY) worked, and would NOT have any Phone/Radio/BT/etc. capabilities. Basically, your Alpine would become a glorified PDA ... only.
jleahy said:
It's not looking too hopeful at the moment....
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Nope ... as said before - without the BSP, and hardware initialization ... it'd be like trying to boot your Mac using a PC BIOS. (Although, scarily - that's getting closer and closer to be the truth ... !!!)
Sorry if this has been covered recently, but I do not get out of the "hermes hermitage" much ;^)
http://www.mobiletechnews.com/info/2008/01/30/131541.html
http://www.celunite.com/
Any chance their mobile linux distro can be ported for our processors, hardware, networks, etc.? I have no idea about the technical challenges of this, but I do know linux (ubuntu) runs way better on my laptop than winxp ever did, so it stands to reason that the same could/should occur on the pocketpc!
I would be willing to help some if/when I get my (1.54.x radio stack fried) 8525 back or some other new phone...
is it possible to make android into a ROM, rather than just running it on top of windows???
i appreciate that there is along way to go to make android run correctly, and that even more of someones time, but in theory if it got to a point where its stable enough to run as the main OS, would be be able to flash it on as a rom rather than windows?
problem is drivers all blackstone hardware would required android drivers for it
running on top don't require drivers
if hardware manufactors don't release android drivers for their hardware
reverse engineering their wm drivers and making stable android ones could take between 1 to 2 man-years
hmmm thats a bummer.
while i'm very familiar with PC hardware, i'm assuming that even if the hero hardware looks the same, there could be all sorts of things inside that would mean that a direct port wouldnt work
Hi,
I'm currently planing a litte project where i want to build a budget drone. Basically i wanna buy a bigger ready to fly helicopter and and connect to the build in microcontroller to control it (so i don't have to care about stabilisation) and add a little camera. So i digged through the various microcontrollers and wifi or 3g modules and cams and it got expensive. So i though hmmm... i've not really experience with microcontroller programming and an old wm device would have all that build in and is cheaper and i can go with .net. But before i've a few questions which i hope to be answered here.
So first is a windows mobile phone booting without a screen connected? (no screen less weight and much more battery time)
Can someone suggest a phone which has 3g gps and a serial output, rs232 or something? Not usb, because afaik usb on windows mobile is not good supported, please correct if i'm wrong.
Thanks & Regards
Benjamin
This unit is quite widely sold but there doesn't seem to be much of a community supporting it. There was some stuff over on DragonDevs, in particular a custom ROM by dvalin21, who also hangs around here, but that forum seems to have died.
The manufacturer of this box isn't exactly supporting it with firmware updates, last official update is over a year old, Android 4.4.2, I have some problems and was hoping there was a community out there to help solve it:
- remote control stopped working - LED still blinks on the device, but most commands not carried out by the OS (other than Power Off I think) - I have factory reset but it hasn't fixed the problem, also tried programming a universal remote from the C918S remote and it receives input but doesn't work with the box still
- xpad.ko not present, the box doesn't support xbox 360 controller out of the box, it seems, and I was hoping someone would've come up with a module for that (dvalin21's custom rom may contain it, but I can't download it and anyway it's old now). Annoying, all of these Android TV boxes would make neat little games consoles if only they included this support.
Any other savvy users of the OTT CS918S out there?
Hello! I have a CS918S also more than four years, very good, I had some problems got around with some roms. Maybe I can help on something. What problems your presented? If you have any error in English is due to be using a translator ...