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Hi, would like to know what do you think about smartskey.
The softkey remap adding both Start Menu and Close functionality is really what brings real convienience to using my K-JAM.
The other features are nice, but I rarely use them.
When using OmapClock, I prefer to add my own startup and notifcation events.
Edit: the "alternate" startmenu key function is brilliant! I now use GSPocketMagic and it works great!
First of all, thank you very much for this great piece of work.
Softkey remap is used most often. Volume key remap is the next most used.
This is a wonderful bit of work. I use the dpad mapping about 98% of the time I use the phone. I also use the close with right soft key mapping fairly frequently and the volume key mapping to disable the today screen volme control (safety first!) and for scrolling within apps. Postal and Paypal gratitude forthcoming.
New function to close screen and block buttons
Hi,
I think it will be very very usefull to have a button which blocks all the buttons and toggle off the screen. It would make the program almost perfect!
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Hi, would like to know what do you think about smartskey.
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there sholud be checkboxes instead of radioboxes in this poll. i'd check all options besides volume key remapping, because i prefer it to stay with its original function. if i could suggest anything new, it would be some piece of GUI placed in Settings window for configuring smartskey. editing smartskey.ini every time after installing new version is not quite convenient way, mostly when it's unicoded in some strange way and not every text editor can handle it (gedit in GNOME - for example - can't).
i am using htc x-button on my treo and like the ability to actually close the application instead of hiding it.
however for onehand navigation it might be very usefull to add an option to close applications with the (hardware) [OK]button.
i am not a programmer but having a look at the size of the original program it might be a very small change to allow that. what do you think?
is it worth the try? would you say this might be a usefull additon?
thanks a lot for your time
ditch x-button & use PQzII instead.
or tman for that matter
@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
@pat123:
thats "just another taskmanager", but doesnt fits my needs. it requires the use of the stylus to select and close programs.
i just want to use the treo onehanded as much often as possible, no stylus. so using the ok-button to actually close programs would be perfect. PQzII would be perfect (even overloaded for me) if it works with WM6.
any more hints on this one?
I am also trying to make my device (8525) as thumb friendly as possible. I use SPB Mobile shell, which has an easy-to-poke-at-with-your-thumb task manager. The task manager can be used to switch to or close any running application. It can also close all, close all but selected, or minimize all. I mapped the task manager to the PTT button (using Sleuth's PTT fix) for easy access. I also mapped the Today screen to the hardware Internet Explorer button to use as a "minimize all" button. (SBP Mobile Shell also has makes it possible to add large icons to the today screen to launch your favorite programs). I now have a fairly easy time switching between apps while walking or whatever without using two hands. I still wish I could map the "OK" button to close rather than minimize though. Maybe someone with far more skill than I will come up with a way to map the "OK" button to close an appication. I'm more "user" than "developer".
...Or Pbar for that matter.
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@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
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hmm, I'm using it on WM6 (hermes however), and it working perfectly.
by display problem, do you mean the white square on your top bar? if yes, you can disable it in the icon tab.
did you check the "Use OK button" in the Window tab? if yes and it still doesn't work then you will probably need to map close function manually in the system tab. (you will need to find out the key code in concern, they have other apps to help you do that)
I found something new (to me) since my last post. I just found vijay555's OK/close button application. It can be mapped to a hardware button (not the OK button unfortunately), but it works great. It's much easier to use a hardware button than it is to try to wedge my fat thumb into the upper right corner of the screen. Here's the link --
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJOkButt
Hi !
Here's an utility to scroll the current window. And i do mean SCROLL, not jump page by page.
Since i got my first PPC, i didn't like the way you're supposed to read stuff, i wanted to scroll down, but pressing the down key jumped one page down. I wanted a smooth scroll, so i made one myself.
How it works:
1. Run the app
2. Minimize it (either with your favourite task manager or tap Start/Today) - DON'T CLOSE IT
3. From now on, the UP/DOWN keys scroll the content of the current window - smooth scroll
Volume Up / Volume Down also scroll (a bit faster) - this won't work on some devices that have custom use for the volume keys.
4. You can disable/enable when needed by mapping a button to RKeyScroll Switch (each tap switches between scroll mode / normal mode.
5. When you're finished with it, run it again, or activate it in your task manager and press ok in it (left softkey)
Limitations:
2. It doesn't work in Start/Programs and in Word/Excel (maybe Powerpoint) - I don't know why
If you find other programs (MAJOR PROGRAMS - WHICH MANY PEOPLE USE) that don't work, post here - please don't spam and don't post a program that doesn't need the scroll anyway.
I tested this on my Toshiba G900 (if scrolling with Volume keys, don't hold them pressed) and my wife's HTC Touch.
PS: thanks to Nagakubo Tomohiro (creator of PQz and PQzII) for trying to help.
Change Log:
Code:
0.04b - 26 June 2008
- command line options (by default the app has scroll enabled):
ss - switch scroll mode - only used if app is already running
son - turn scroll mode on - can also be used on startup
soff - turn scroll mode off - can also be used on startup
only use one command line option at a time
this is useful like this:
- In Windows/StartUp copy RKeyScroll Off.lnk to start the app every time the system starts with scrolling disabled
- In Windows/Start Menu/Programs there's RKeyScroll Switch.lnk -map this to a hardware button of your choice (thanks to fisch3009 for the idea)
- made the install easier - packed as a CAB - creates all shortcuts, for automatic startup you must copy manually
- G900 version has scroll switch mapped to camera tap (it cannot be remapped with windows anyway)
0.03b - 25 June 2008
- separate version for Toshiba G900 - this i can test on ;)
- fixed OK button on Toshiba G900
- when no scroll is possible, buttons do what they normally do
- added smoother scrolling on volume up/volume down
- changed the code to avoid future bugs ;)
- still a bug: when start menu/quick menu is opened, it still scrolls the window beneath
0.02b - 24 June 2008
- first release
Hope you like it !
RPG
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great idée, thanks man
hi rpg
is it possible to use fingers ? instead of up/down buttons
is it a problem using TouchFlo ?
salut monpsy , toujours à fouiner LOL
brunoisa10 said:
hi rpg
is it possible to use fingers ? instead of up/down buttons
is it a problem using TouchFlo ?
salut monpsy , toujours à fouiner LOL
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If you want to get your finger in the way while reading something AND get your screen dirty, use TouchFLO or SPB Plus for finger scrolling
Great Idea! I'm looking for a automated "timer" type scroller? Where you put like 10 seconds in the setup, and it would automatically scroll a page every 10 (or whatever seconds). No need to touch screen or dpad...
This is very cool. I sometimes have trouble reading through my thumb
I notice it still tries to scroll in the application that it can control even when it is not the current focus application.
Could you make it deactivate when the focus program is something it doesn't work in?
Also make it run in the background so I don't have to run it everytime I want to use it.
E.g. when I am in IE and I activate QuickMenu it still scrolls IE and ignores QuickMenu. Also you mention it doesn't work in File Explorer, likewise in Total Commander you can see the scroll bar move but the screen doesn't scroll.
Possibly have an exemptions list similar to FTouchFlo (I can see you don't like this) so we can add programs that we prefer the D pad to work natively in. Also any chance of kinetic scrolling?
Keep it up!
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I notice it still tries to scroll in the application that it can control even when it is not the current focus application.
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Fixed in 0.3b, i will post it later today.
evojulz said:
Could you make it deactivate when the focus program is something it doesn't work in?
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In 0.3b, if it can't scroll, the buttons resume their normal functions, so yes.
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Also make it run in the background so I don't have to run it everytime I want to use it.
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It's already like this - you just run it once, minimize it, and change windows, it will scroll the active one (unless there are bugs )
evojulz said:
E.g. when I am in IE and I activate QuickMenu it still scrolls IE and ignores QuickMenu.
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Fixed in 0.3b
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Also you mention it doesn't work in File Explorer, likewise in Total Commander you can see the scroll bar move but the screen doesn't scroll.
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For me it works in Total Commander. When i have more time, i will try to see why it doesn't work (how to make it work) in the others.
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Possibly have an exemptions list similar to FTouchFlo (I can see you don't like this) so we can add programs that we prefer the D pad to work natively in. Also any chance of kinetic scrolling?
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I don't like the idea of an exception list - i want to keep this as simple as possible. On my Toshiba G900 i can disable the scrolling with the camera button - so this would solve the problem of using the DPad as a DPad when needed. I will see how I could add this functionality to other phones (i just need the camera button code)
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Keep it up!
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Thanks, I will. And thanks for the very good feedback.
This program is a great idea, i missed this feature long time.
I don't like the idea of an exception list - i want to keep this as simple as possible. On my Toshiba G900 i can disable the scrolling with the camera button - so this would solve the problem of using the DPad as a DPad when needed. I will see how I could add this functionality to other phones (i just need the camera button code)
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Perhpas you can add an command line option to switch on and off the dpad scroll function, so everybody can map the software to his or her preferred hardwarebutton.
fisch3009 said:
This program is a great idea, i missed this feature long time.
Perhpas you can add an command line option to switch on and off the dpad scroll function, so everybody can map the software to his or her preferred hardwarebutton.
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That's a great idea !
I thought i would make the button configurable in the registry, but the user should know the code of the button. Your way is a lot simpler. I will add it in 0.3b tonight before posting it.
You saved me a lot of time.
Thanks !
Cool, will link to it in my next misc news article.
nice nice idea...
Maybe this is already known, but I cannot change the volume with the scroll-wheel during a call.
Perhaps you also fixed it in your new version. Tnx anyway.
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Maybe this is already known, but I cannot change the volume with the scroll-wheel during a call.
Perhaps you also fixed it in your new version. Tnx anyway.
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Fixed in 0.3b.
0.03b released
still to do - enable/disable scroll with a button
still to fix - when start menu is opened, the up/down keys scroll the window beneath instead of selecting items in start menu
0.04b released - now has enable disable mappable to HW button
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Wow, fast development
Installs from CAB and maps to my camera button great.
The switch command doesn't turn it on and off, just opens the RKeyScroll dialogue the same as the RKeyScroll On command. Is this supposed to happen?
I would like it to start and run silently and not even show up in the running programs list and then stop when the switch command is run again.
BTW, still doesn't work in Total Commander for me.
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Wow, fast development
Installs from CAB and maps to my camera button great.
The switch command doesn't turn it on and off, just opens the RKeyScroll dialogue the same as the RKeyScroll On command. Is this supposed to happen?
I would like it to start and run silently and not even show up in the running programs list and then stop when the switch command is run again.
BTW, still doesn't work in Total Commander for me.
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Weird, for me the RKeyScroll Switch disables/enables the scroll and the window doesn't get activated(just like i programmed it to do).
Oh, I know. You're closing the app and then running RKeyScroll Switch. Don't click "OK" - this closes the app. Just minimize it, and then press the button mapped to "Switch" - it will work. It will not activate the window again.
About the silent start: That's how I want it to behave, but i got sleepy, so... 0.5b will probably do that.
Just a shameless bump
X1BC v1.1
X1 Button Controller
Feb 12, 2009
By Jonathan King
Description
This program is released open source. Contact me if you would like a copy of the source. The program is capable of capturing both short and long presses of panel key, ok key, L/R softkeys, up/down volume keys, and the win key on the slide out KB. The camera half and full press can also be captured and fully configured for short and long half press, as well as short and long full press. Also, the camera key will be ignored while the camera program is open. Capturing each key is all optional. They can be switched by the registry keys detailed in the next post. By default, if the reg keys are not there, none are captured. You can capture the long press only, short and long press, or leave the key alone. Fn key presses are also detected for A, S, D, F, G, Z, X, C, and V keys. Registry strings are used to specify what happens when the key is pressed. You can choose to open execute anything from a program exe to a mortscript to an mp3. You may also configure it to send a character or special key. This allows maximum flexibility.
The program can also make the win key or tab key a ctrl key. There are two modes of operation for each key. For the win key: Short press mode (short press to enable ctrl then press a letter), Long press mode (press letter while holding ctrl). With the tab key, it is still possible to send a tab character: Short press mode (short press to enable ctrl then press a letter; long press sends tab chr), Long press mode (press letter while holding ctrl; short press sends tab chr).
The program also supports vibrate feedback for a press and hold event. The duration is configurable or this can be disabled. Also configurable is the duration you must hold a key for the long press to occur.
To start the key hook, just launch X1BC.exe. If it is already running, launching X1BC.exe again will end the program and restore the keys to default.
Notes
While the panel key is captured, on the ROM I run with no panels installed I still get a popup saying could not find panelmanager.exe. I am not sure what would happen on a ROM with panels installed. To prevent this all together delete the whole registry key HKLM\Software\Sony Ericsson\PanelManager. You may want to back it up first but there is not harm in deleting it. You do need this key if you want to use panels though. But if you do use panels you dont want to remap the panel key anyway.
Capturing the win key on the slide out KB is tricky, but I think I have done it in a way that wont cause problems. It works well as a ctrl key and I havent had problems with it, but I still think the tab key makes a better ctrl key because it behaves like a regular key and is therefore easier to manipulate.
Disclaimer, use at your own risk. I have tested and debugged in the emulator and on my X1. I dont do anything that I think could really cause any harm or data loss. Has never crashed on me at any point during dev. The program does not make any changes to the system. It just runs in the background. If terminated everything works as it did before the program was started. Try it out.
Registry settings:
The following are DWORD values:
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CapturePanel
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureOK
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureLeft
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureRight
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureVolumeUp
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureVolumeDown
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureLWIN
Here are the possible choices:
0 - Leave the key alone
1 - Capture long press only
3 - Capture long and short press
The default if the value does not exists is 0
The following is also a DWORD but the format is different:
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureCamera
The possible choices are:
0 - Leave the key alone
1 - Capture long and short for half press only
2 - Capture long and short for full press only
3 - Capture long and short for both half and full press
The default if the value does not exists is 0
The following are string values:
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\PanelShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\PanelLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\OKShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\OKLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LeftShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LeftLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\RightShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\RightLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeUpShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeUpLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeDownShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeDownLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LWINShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LWINLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\HalfCamShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\HalfCamLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\FullCamShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\FullCamLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_A_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_S_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_D_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_F_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_G_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_Z_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_X_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_C_Action
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\Fn_V_Action
Each action key can be one of three types: Execution of a file, sending of a character, or sending of a special key.
To execute a file, the string should contain the full pathname of the file to run. This can be an exe, mscr, lnk, mp3, doc, whatever. Enclose the path and file name in quotes, followed by a space, then any parameters if you desire if it is an executable. For instance:
Code:
"\Program Files\App\My App.exe" -p
To send a character, the string must begin with a # symbol followed by the character to send. For instance, to send a "$" character, they value of the string should be:
Code:
#$
To send a special key, the string must begin with a & symbol followed by the identifier of the special key to send. Here are the special keys:
W - Windows key
R - Rotate screen
Q - Send left softkey event
E - Send right softkey event
What other special keys would you like?
For instance, to send a windows key event, they value of the string should be:
Code:
&W
The following are DWORD values:
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LongKeyTimeout
Delay for long key press in milliseconds. The default if the value does not exists is 500.
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LWINCtrlMode
Here are the possible choices:
0 - Do not use as ctrl
1 - Short press mode (short press to enable ctrl then press a letter)
2 - Long press mode (press letter while holding ctrl)
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\TabCtrlMode
Here are the possible choices:
0 - Do not use as ctrl
1 - Short press mode (short press to enable ctrl then press a letter; long press sends tab chr)
2 - Long press mode (press letter while holding ctrl; short press sends tab chr)
(Note, you may use either LWIN or TAB for ctrl. Not both at the same time. If both of these keys are non zero, the tab key will be used. I recommend the tab key. It is more reliable.)
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\SupportMultipleKeyHooks
Here are the possible choices:
0 - OFF
1 - ON
The default if the value does not exists is 0. (Please leave as 0 for now. It does not work.)
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\HoldFeedbackDuration
Duration of vibration feedback for a long key press. Set to zero to disable. The default if the value does not exists is 35.
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LandscapeOrientation
Set which landscape orientation the "R" special key will switch to. Choices:
0 - Left handed (correct orientation for the keyboard)
1 - Right handed
The default if the value does not exists is 0.
Known Issues:
-Does not support multiple key hooks (not really a problem as this is an OS limitation but see this post for details)
-LWIN long ctrl mode does not work
Changelog:
v1.1 [2/12/09]
-Added special key (&R) for screen rotation
-Added special keys (&Q and &E) for left and right softkeys
-Fixed bug that cause crash if Fn key was assigned to non existent file
-Will now prevent camera app from opening if you reassign camera button
-Changed format of reg settings for camera button
v1.0 [2/11/09]
-Improved WIN ctrl key support
-Added tab key short and long ctrl modes and registry setting
-Added key hold vibration feedback and registry duration setting
-Added capability to capture fn keys. Registry settings added
-Added capability to send character strokes and special keys
-Added capability to capture half and full camera button press. Registry settings added
-Changed default registry values to reflect correct installation directory for other languages
v0.4 [1/10/09]
-Fixed bug that caused extra long key press in one circumstance
-Fixed bug that caused crash during startup if registry strings were not formatted correctly
-Added option and registry value to change long press timeout
-Added short ctrl key feature and registry option for feature
-Added option to allow other key hooks (doesnt yet actually work)
-Now released in CAB format; CAB presets all reg values and creates shortcuts in startup and start menu
-X1BC now ignores keys by default if reg values do not exist, rather than capturing by default
v0.3 [1/07/09]
-Added registry keys for key actions
-Program now performs key actions from settings
v0.2 [1/06/09]
-Simplified reg settings
-Removed all but "exiting" popup during startup and shutdown
-Rewrote key hook algorithm for better reliability
-Unwanted keys now released to system as set by preferences
Todo List:
-Support multiple key hooks
Downloads below. Please note, the cabs will overwrite existing registry settings. If you want to upgrade from previous version, back up the settings first or just replace the exe. The cabs also place a shortcut in startup and in the start menu.
nice!
would look forward for the program when it's officially released
Heh, nice one Jking. I think the best way to go is to somehow "merge" your app with Dande's. Dande doesn't want to create a UI and uses mortscript, where you use the - in my opinion easier - registry. From what I see so far, you both have the same app, written in a different way, with the biggest change being you using the winkey (which I like), and Dande using the tab key.
I'd like to see where this goes, keep up the good work!
All the Best JKingDev, sorry I can't help. I don't know programming.
The biggest shortcoming of the X1 is the lack of buttons for mapping to apps and task manager. I miss the ease of button mapping on my previous i780.
Looking forward to your end product!
Good idea. Looking forward to this app.
cheers
I would love to see an option that would allow these button's to be exposed in the list of assignable buttons in the Buttons Settings control panel (similar to how Tilt developers were able to add the PTT button to it) to allow regular action assignments to those buttons.
Very interested to see how this application turns out!
millercentral said:
I would love to see an option that would allow these button's to be exposed in the list of assignable buttons in the Buttons Settings control panel (similar to how Tilt developers were able to add the PTT button to it) to allow regular action assignments to those buttons.
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Yeah, me too! But I guess this is on driver level, not sure though!
Edit: I take that back, I remember that AEButtonPlus is able to add virtual keys to that list. But I think you still have to run your application at all time in the background, not really giving an advantage to this. I might be wrong again though.
@JKingDev
I was sending you my code. Didn't expect you to be this impatient
From what I have experienced, using the keyboard hook, it is not possible to remap the panel and the symbol button. Usually you can stop their original functionality to work by returning -1 in the hook, but that doesn't work with panel and symbol. So, at least at first sight, it seems to be not possible to remap these buttons.
You could consider also using RegisterHotKey, which is officially supported by the SDK. Mort told me that he uses it with MortPlayer and it seems to be quite powerful too. Maybe the hook and RegisterHotKey together allow you to do more than just with the hook. I thought that, when you can't do it with the low level hook, there is no other way at all to do it, that's why I didn't even bother trying.
Since you already started a thread in the development phase, maybe you should tell us what you actually plan to implement so that people can tell you in advance what they like about your concept and what they don't. Kind of collecting requirements before coding - like software engineering should be (and not like I did it )
Edit: By the way, in the zip file I sent to you by mail, you can also find a text file which documents the button sequences I was interested in. Helped me a lot while implementing.
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Dande doesn't want to create a UI and uses mortscript, where you use the - in my opinion easier - registry.
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First of all, the registry is only some kind of global application configuration database (and a bad idea from microsoft if you ask me). The registry can only enable functionality that is implemented in an application. In contrary to that, MortScript allows you to implement functionality that my application doesn't.
Despite of being completely different things, I don't find fiddling in the registry easy nor secure, but that's another topic.
Ah, and no offense intended, alright
@Jking:
THANKS for this great idea !!
X1 is missing a dedicated REC key
I desperately need this function
One-touch key press to automatically start recording a voice note
Maybe your software will finally let me use my Xperia as a voice recorder
Thank you for all the support! I am glad there is interest in this. It is nice to give back to this great community. New test version. I rewrote the key hook algorithm to handle the win and softkeys in a smoother way. Shouldnt have any prolems now. Now, if you put in settings to not capture a it should be released to the system like normal. Also changed up the registry settings a little bit to streamline the code. Made note of the new format in the second post. Next step will be to actually perform user specified actions when keys are pressed. It will actually become useful.
For some reason, when I set the grab volume key settings to 0 and completely ignore them, they still dont do anything while X1BC.exe is running. I am not sure if this is my app doing this or AEBP screwing with me since I still have it installed. Does anyone else get this problem?
millercentral said:
I would love to see an option that would allow these button's to be exposed in the list of assignable buttons in the Buttons Settings control panel (similar to how Tilt developers were able to add the PTT button to it) to allow regular action assignments to those buttons.
Very interested to see how this application turns out!
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I believe this can be done since AEBP does it but I am not sure how. I have a slight idea of what I think it does. It involves adding some registry keys then sending custom key codes. I will look into this after I have accomplished everything else I want with this app. Can't make any promises but I will try.
Dandie said:
Yeah, me too! But I guess this is on driver level, not sure though!
Edit: I take that back, I remember that AEButtonPlus is able to add virtual keys to that list. But I think you still have to run your application at all time in the background, not really giving an advantage to this. I might be wrong again though.
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Yes I think you are correct on this. The only advantage is assigning special keys like <rotate screen> ect. Most of those things you can find exe's for or use a mortscript anyway though, and my app will allow you to specify any exe/mortscript/file to run/open anyway.
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I was sending you my code. Didn't expect you to be this impatient
From what I have experienced, using the keyboard hook, it is not possible to remap the panel and the symbol button. Usually you can stop their original functionality to work by returning -1 in the hook, but that doesn't work with panel and symbol. So, at least at first sight, it seems to be not possible to remap these buttons.
You could consider also using RegisterHotKey, which is officially supported by the SDK. Mort told me that he uses it with MortPlayer and it seems to be quite powerful too. Maybe the hook and RegisterHotKey together allow you to do more than just with the hook. I thought that, when you can't do it with the low level hook, there is no other way at all to do it, that's why I didn't even bother trying.
Since you already started a thread in the development phase, maybe you should tell us what you actually plan to implement so that people can tell you in advance what they like about your concept and what they don't. Kind of collecting requirements before coding - like software engineering should be (and not like I did it )
Edit: By the way, in the zip file I sent to you by mail, you can also find a text file which documents the button sequences I was interested in. Helped me a lot while implementing.
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Sorry for my impatience. I had lots of free time and was itching to put my coding skills to work. I have wanted to write a button mapper since I owned a mogul (on my 6700 i used pqzII to make the win key a ctrl mey; i missed this functionality) but I never got around to it.
About the panel key, a key hook is able to detect the panel key presses, but for some reason it is unable to prevent the system from detecting it too like it can for other keys. This is why the work around to delete the panel manager registry key is necessary. Once you do that, the system ignores the key. Hotkeys sounds like a good idea. As it is, it works for me. I can try hotkey later though to see if that works out better. Deleting the panel manager key is an easy work around though if you dont use panels.
Well as far as key functions, you will specify via registry key what file/program to open/run. It could be and exe, mortscript, mp3, whatever. I think that allows max flexibility. Run a program directly, or run a mortscript if you have something more complex you want the key to do. The same functionality as yours, the only difference is that this can also run an exe directly as opposed to writing a script to run the exe.
After that, I want to implement the win key as a ctrl ley. There will be four modes. 1.) Disable ctrl key: allow the ctrl key to be assigned for short and long presses like it is now. 2.) Short ctrl key: Short press + letter sends ctrl key while a long press is mappable like it is now. 3.) Hold ctrl key: Hold + press letter then release sends ctrl key, while short press is assignable to something else. 4.) Full ctrl key: both short and hold methods send ctrl key.
Next I will add FN+key combinations to be assignable the way the other keys are (run exe/script/open file).
After that it will be looking into the suggestions of others such as virtual app keys.
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First of all, the registry is only some kind of global application configuration database (and a bad idea from microsoft if you ask me). The registry can only enable functionality that is implemented in an application. In contrary to that, MortScript allows you to implement functionality that my application doesn't.
Despite of being completely different things, I don't find fiddling in the registry easy nor secure, but that's another topic.
Ah, and no offense intended, alright
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The purpose of using the registry is not really to make things easier, it is just to make things configurable. You may choose what keys to trap and turn the ctrl key on or off. Mortscripts are very powerful and easy and I still give you the option of using them. But if all you want the key to do is launch a program, why launch a script just just launches a program? I give you the option to just launch that program directly.
New version 0.3. Now the keys are fully functional. The program is actually useful now. The registry keys to set for the key actions are detailed in the second post. All fully functional. I have stopped using AEButton plus now as X1BC does everything AEBP was doing. No more AEBP splash on boot. Now on to what AEBP doesnt do, ctrl key, fn keys, ect.
One caveat though. I figured out what the problem was with the volume keys. I use the HTC Blackstone volume control. It seems certain that HTC volume control as well as you tube, radio, ect use key hooks. Even if I tell my program to ignore the volume keys, pressing volume up will bring up the volume control but after that the volume keys wont change it. The reason why is that once HTC volume control pops up it sets a key hook to control the keys. If my app already has a key hook set, HTC VC will be unable to install its own hook, thus cannot grab the keys. I proved that HTC VC uses a key hook by closing X1BC, launching the VC, then trying to launch X1BC. My app reported as expected that it could not install the hook.
I noticed something very interesting a while ago though. I can launch X1BC even while AEBP is running and it will work. I didnt think much of it but now I realize that this is important. HTC VC works fine even if AEBP is running. AEBP certainly uses a key hook. I can launch AEBP first then launch X1BC. If I first launch X1BC then launch AEBP, AEBP wont work. I think this means that AEBP has some mechanism of supporting a second key hook. Probably the same way hookmgr works. I will try installing that and seeing if it makes the HTC programs and X1BC work together peacefully. Ultimately though, I want to give X1BC the capability to support another program setting a key hook. Not a big deal though. The HTC programs still work. Pressing a volume key brings up the volume control then you can control with your finger.
It is fully functional for mapping the hard keys now! Try it!
@JKingDev
I would still like to know what exactly you plan to build as the application, I mean featurewise. What features and maybe layout do you want the final application to have? It does really make sense to gather feature requests before starting the development of a complex software, otherwise people will always tell you what they would like to have changed. I think you would save quite a lot of implementation effort that way and you also could arrange your architecture a bit to the "final" structure of the application.
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First of all, the registry is only some kind of global application configuration database (and a bad idea from microsoft if you ask me). The registry can only enable functionality that is implemented in an application. In contrary to that, MortScript allows you to implement functionality that my application doesn't.
Despite of being completely different things, I don't find fiddling in the registry easy nor secure, but that's another topic.
Ah, and no offense intended, alright
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None taken. I'm just trying to add some perspective here. This is a developers site - true. So you can expect some people to be able to work with mortscript - true. But, regardless of any other arguments, there's a lot of users who just don't grasp scripting like with mort's and/or cba to learn yet another language. It's really good to support mortscript, all I'm saying it's nice to have the "easier" and simpler options as well. I will probably get into mortscript soon, too - as soon as university loosens up.
Now, on this application itself - it's looking really good Jking, it would be lovely to have it support multiple keyhooks. Another feature I'd like to see is grasping software keys, like for instance when tapping the clock in TF3D. I'd like to be able to set what that does as well; e.g. remap it to an application or something. Same goes for calender etc. - is your current code able to support that too?
Keep up the great work, this one is starting to look like a keeper!!
(Although I like AEbuttonplus, I read/noticed some downsides about it and would rather replace it.)
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@JKingDev
I would still like to know what exactly you plan to build as the application, I mean featurewise. What features and maybe layout do you want the final application to have? It does really make sense to gather feature requests before starting the development of a complex software, otherwise people will always tell you what they would like to have changed. I think you would save quite a lot of implementation effort that way and you also could arrange your architecture a bit to the "final" structure of the application.
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Dandie, I am not sure quite what you mean by this. I outlined all the features I plan to implement. The application is in its final structure, I am just still adding features. What more details did you want to know?
Angelusz said:
Now, on this application itself - it's looking really good Jking, it would be lovely to have it support multiple keyhooks. Another feature I'd like to see is grasping software keys, like for instance when tapping the clock in TF3D. I'd like to be able to set what that does as well; e.g. remap it to an application or something. Same goes for calender etc. - is your current code able to support that too?
Keep up the great work, this one is starting to look like a keeper!!
(Although I like AEbuttonplus, I read/noticed some downsides about it and would rather replace it.)
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Thanks Angelusz. I don't believe that capturing things like tapping the clock in TF3D is possible though. Tapping software buttons does not generate a keyboard event. Only actual keys do. Therefore unless TF3D sends key events for some reason this would not be possible.
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Dandie, I am not sure quite what you mean by this. I outlined all the features I plan to implement. The application is in its final structure, I am just still adding features. What more details did you want to know?
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Oh, then I must have overlooked something. What configuration possibilities do you want to offer in your UI, what do you want to offer via registry configuration and what must be done via scripts or additional programs. E.g. what do you want to implement what a powerful program like AEButtonsPlus offers, what do you don't want to offer and what do you want to add to it to make it better. Starting a discussion like this would pop up many good ideas for a somewhat perfect application, you will see.
By the way, a software never is final - unless you declare it final, which basically means you stop the development.
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Dandie, I am not sure quite what you mean by this. I outlined all the features I plan to implement. The application is in its final structure, I am just still adding features. What more details did you want to know?
Thanks Angelusz. I don't believe that capturing things like tapping the clock in TF3D is possible though. Tapping software buttons does not generate a keyboard event. Only actual keys do. Therefore unless TF3D sends key events for some reason this would not be possible.
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I think you're right, I have however found a tool that allows me to remap the paths! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
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Oh, then I must have overlooked something. What configuration possibilities do you want to offer in your UI, what do you want to offer via registry configuration and what must be done via scripts or additional programs. E.g. what do you want to implement what a powerful program like AEButtonsPlus offers, what do you don't want to offer and what do you want to add to it to make it better. Starting a discussion like this would pop up many good ideas for a somewhat perfect application, you will see.
By the way, a software never is final - unless you declare it final, which basically means you stop the development.
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Well I wasnt planning on making a UI unless people absolutely want to. All my settings are easily changeable in the registry. The second post outlines all the available options. When I add the ctrl key and fn keys there will be options for these too. There will also be an option to allow other key hooks if I get that working. Nothing must be done via scripts or other programs. Simply enter in the registry what file to run or open when the key is pressed. Everyone is free to make requests. There is one request to emulate virtual hard keys and I will try addressing that later. I am not trying to match AEBP. I did this a.) becausse AEBP is a bloated all purpose app; mine is tailor made for the X1, and much smaller and lighter; b.) AEBP costs money; c.) AEBP cannot create a ctrl key or grab FN keys; AEKM does, meaning purchasing another application. If there is something more you would like to see the app do let me know. Otherwise, I have laid out everything that is in the plan already.
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I think you're right, I have however found a tool that allows me to remap the paths! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
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Glad you got that worked out. I thought there would be something of this nature.
Hi JKingDev,
I have tired X1BC for only one button so far (long press ok button to switch to 2nd today). So far everything is working quite nicely.
With AEBP I was facing a significant battery capacity drainage this was for me the main reason to look out for another button mapper. At least in my configuration I was able to reproduce this battery problem (I had 3 buttons asigned with a double click function and the action menue). But this is reported allready (Touch HD forum, because it happens on the Touch HD as well). It is realy a pity, because AEBP is a great application and was the very 1st I was installing on a WM phone.
As long as there is no UI maybe you could do a presetting of all those reg key with a samll cab file? And fill the dword with "0" - I understand that than the key has just its standard behaviour.
Because than I just have to type "only" my individual settings (I am lazy - I know).
For making program starting easier I have the idea to create in the reg keys a path name to a standard link such as
"\Program Files\X1BC\OKLongAction.lnk"
Than I create a new link for the program I want to start, rename it to "OKLongAction.lnk" and overwrite with this new link the one in the standard directory.
This would allow to make changes without playing arround in the regestry all the time.
Best regards & Many thanks for this great tool!
dingolino
Registry settings:
The following are DWORD values:
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CapturePanel
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureOK
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureLeft
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureRight
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureVolumeUp
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureVolumeDown
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\CaptureLWIN
Here are the possible choices:
0 - Leave the key alone
1 - Capture long press only
3 - Capture long and short press
The following are string values:
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\PanelShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\PanelLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\OKShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\OKLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LeftShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LeftLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\RightShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\RightLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeUpShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeUpLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeDownShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\VolumeDownLongAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LWINShortAction
HKCU\SOFTWARE\JKing\X1BC\LWINLongAction
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New version 1.2 available here
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DredSensor v1.1d:
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Link ->: DredSensor-v1.1d
New features in v1.1d:
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Let you choose which Key/Action you affect to each key.
Launcher Mode let you affect an Action for:
Double Tap event
Click event
Long click event
An icon for config tool is created in Program list.
Cache Program List for quick loading in Config window.
Fixes a few bug from v1.1, v1.1b and v1.1c
Tips:
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If you upgrade to this version, your config file will be cleared (sorry ).
To define a profile that applies on every applications, launch config tool and edit "Default" config.
If the key you want to affect is not listed, you can define it manually:
Type "Key:[email protected]@", with @@ = VKey code of the key you want to affect.
You can find VKey code list on : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
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Reviewed on gadgetmix.com: See the article
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If you have tried to play a game needing left and right key on an HTC Touch Diamond, you noticed that they are 2mm wide and if you click next to it, you get back to home page or to dialing menu etc...
So I've written a prog allowing you to lock these 4 keys actions and replace it by classical key event (VK_LEFT, VK_RIGHT, ...).
In that way you can play tetris, and use "Pick-Up" and "Hang-Up" keys for going left and right.
Link ->: DredSensor
To use it, you need:
1) An HTC Touch Diamond (it's the only one i have so i can't test it on other models)
2) Install the .cab
3) Reboot your HTC
4) Run a game (or app or ...)
5) Get your stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second
6) Click "Yes"
----- A config window opens:
7) Check that Type = "HardKeySimul"
8) Click "Ok"
Now you can use (and eventually assign) your 'Home', 'Back', 'Pick-Up' and 'Hang-Up' keys in that game/app.
Actually, the 'Pick-Up' and 'Hang-Up' keys are always defined as Left and Right events.
Have fun.
Ps:
For people interested, the other "Type" in the config window are:
- "Launcher": allow you to quicklaunch 4 app (that you define in the config wnd) when you double tap (not click, just tap) on one of those 4 keyz
- "Scroll": allow you to scroll the current window by tapping those 4 keyz panel
- "KeySimul": allow you to send left/right/up/down events by tapping those 4 keyz panel
Thx, now I can use opera mini and pie (good for mlb's wap) in full screen
Thank you very much. Great program. Now, with left and right softkey hardware buttons, I can play with my java games.
Claus72 said:
Thank you very much. Great program. Now, with left and right softkey hardware buttons, I can play with my java games.
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Do any of them even work on the vga screen?
first of all: great app!
only thing i don't like is that now every time i pull out the stylus the phone vibrates. maybe you could make the "window-catching-thing" optional, so you have to enable it first?!? with that, the app would be perfect to me!
figured out an other problem: the "scroll-wheel-function" in opera and tomtom doesn't work anymore...
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first of all: great app!
only thing i don't like is that now every time i pull out the stylus the phone vibrates. maybe you could make the "window-catching-thing" optional, so you have to enable it first?!? with that, the app would be perfect to me!
figured out an other problem: the "scroll-wheel-function" in opera and tomtom doesn't work anymore...
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Hello.
As it's a background program, making vivrate the phone is the best way i found to easlily know if it's loaded or not.
If you don't like that, you can disable it by manually editing the 'Config.ini' file in '/Program Files/DredSensor':
Go under the section you want to disable vibrator in (ex: "[Default]")
Add: "NoVibrate=1"
For the scroll problem, i didn't change scrolling system from v1.0 so are you sure it was working in v1.0 and it's no more working in v1.1?
@Dredger97
Thank´s for this wonderful tool!
Greeting
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is there a wa to map home/back to A/B controller buttons? Trying to get it to work with PocketNester Thanks
Thanks
I will tried
Seems to be good. Shall download and try...
Doesn't work for all hard keys
I have the original diamond and it doesn't look like any of the key presses work.
I could really do with replacing volume and Home/Back Buttons. Do these buttons
support Long press too?
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is there a wa to map home/back to A/B controller buttons? Trying to get it to work with PocketNester Thanks
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If you go in PocketNester -> Option -> Controller, you can see that it's default mapped to 0xC4 and 0xC3 key codes.
So all you have to set in DredSensor is:
- Home: "Key:0xC4"
- Back: "Key:0xC3"
I tried that on super mario, it works, but the problem is that you can't press those keys and simultaneously press Left and Right so it's quite hard to play...
In fact you can map Volume Up and Down keyz to button A and B and it's much easier to play.
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I have the original diamond and it doesn't look like any of the key presses work.
I could really do with replacing volume and Home/Back Buttons. Do these buttons
support Long press too?
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The actual version of DredSensor doesn't change anything to volume up/down buttons.
All it catches is Home,Back,Talk and End hard keys.
About long press,
- In "Launcher" mode, you can define action for "Long click"
- In "HardKeySimul" mode, if you make a long press to "Home", and mapped "Left" key to "Home" button, it will occure a long press on "Left" key.
I just don't seem to be able to get this to work - I follow the first post to remap the home and back keys to the softkeys, but home always takes me back to touchflo.
Are there any other things I can try, or is it just the ROM i'm using doing this?
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I just don't seem to be able to get this to work - I follow the first post to remap the home and back keys to the softkeys, but home always takes me back to touchflo.
Are there any other things I can try, or is it just the ROM i'm using doing this?
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I don't think it's a ROM problem.
The 2 most common reasons for not working are:
It doesn't work if you have G-Scroll or something similar installed.
When you edit config for an App, this config only applies when "Window Title" and "ClassName" of the foreground window matches what is defined in that Config.
If it doesn't match any config, DredSensor doesn't catch your hard keys.
You can use wildcards in your Config so, for example, if the app you want to configure always changes its title, you can set "*" for window title.
everything gose well in my diamond! Thx!
just a little suggestion : as volume up/down could be very useful in some app (like a game emulator), could you make them configurable in your next version?
nice job!
Furbious said:
I just don't seem to be able to get this to work - I follow the first post to remap the home and back keys to the softkeys, but home always takes me back to touchflo.
Are there any other things I can try, or is it just the ROM i'm using doing this?
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I make a softreset and works whit no problem, when i click home button open the program i assign.
Doesn't seem to work in Phone screen. I am not sure if it is because it is a dialog class. If this could be made to work, it would be great as when a person has multiple phone numbers you could scroll by pressing right or left key.
Thanks in advance
just tested it with tetris and it worked great. good stuff
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I don't think it's a ROM problem.
The 2 most common reasons for not working are:
It doesn't work if you have G-Scroll or something similar installed.
When you edit config for an App, this config only applies when "Window Title" and "ClassName" of the foreground window matches what is defined in that Config.
If it doesn't match any config, DredSensor doesn't catch your hard keys.
You can use wildcards in your Config so, for example, if the app you want to configure always changes its title, you can set "*" for window title.
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I've nothing like that installed - I've tried wildcards, and soft resetting between altering them, even setting the default so that it should catch any class or window so that the home and back keys are soft keys one and two.
It's semi trapping the window and keys.......I just wonder if your app is not being fed the correct window name/class, or there's some extra characters or something that is fooling it.
Here's an example - setting home and back keys to the softkeys, with a config of * for window, and * for class.
On the touchflo screen, pressing home will take it to the phone screen (correct left softkey action), but once in the phone screen, pressing home takes it to the touchflo screen when it should go to contacts.
If I'm in any other application, it never traps the home key, and will always go back to touchflo. Disabling touchflo doesn't change this, it takes it back to the today screen.
I'm using shak's rom if anyone else can confirm they can get it to work using that one