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Button lock question, please be gentle with me

Hi Guys.
I had a quick search for this but other than posts about the button lock "when off" thing, which I have enabled, I can't find a fix for this, what I consider to be, bug/fault/failing.
The thing which really really gripes with me is the dumb buttons all around the edges of the Universal. Sure, when the phone is off, they are disabled, but what about when the phone rings ?
I grab the phone but have to try to dance around any and all buttons because as soon as it gets a call it wakes and the buttons become live.
I've had to forget having the phone in it's case (I tried a krussell case for it but it stresses the screen hinge) because you have to wail away on the keys in order to get the thing out the case.
I could assign the functions of the buttons to <none> but it kinda negates them even being there.
A way to disable them when off and also on call receipt would be just the ticket.
gee, I really hate this aspect and if I lose another call I swear I'll throw it out the window.

I dont really understand your concerns.
I use button lock, and they do lock without a problem.
When my phone rings, the phone call buttons are active to accept or decline.
I also use the krussel case and didnt find any hinge stress, and had easy access to the answer and hangup buttons located on the hinge. mind use, i usually keep the clam closed so i had not problem accessing any of the buttons, ever.
I have also extended the ring time from the 10second default to the 30 second maximum available, so I am not in any rush to answer the phone in the first place, and dont need to visually see who is calling as I accept all incoming calls, or decline all incoming despite who it is. so simply pressing the green button located on the hinge is easy.
so alas, I dont understand your problem.

But when your phone rings, the other external buttons are also active, camera etc. So, when dragging the phone out of a pocket or it's case, you are almost bound to catch one of those butons or, as has happened, the Red call-end button on the side.

marcuskeeler said:
But when your phone rings, the other external buttons are also active, camera etc. So, when dragging the phone out of a pocket or it's case, you are almost bound to catch one of those butons or, as has happened, the Red call-end button on the side.
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I tested this on mine and whilst you are right about the buttons being active, the phone answer/ignore window stayed foremost regardless. In my case i tested a button I have assigned to notes and the notes window appeared underneath the call window.
As with previous comments I really don't see the issue as anything more than trivial, especially considering the buttons size and pressure required to activate it. Perhaps someone will (or has) write a little utility to disable the buttons except for the phone answer/ignore. In the meantime I wouldn't worry about it.

Using a SPV M5000 and keep it in the leather/elastic holster provided with the phone, and have the same problem with loosing calls whilst extracting the phone from the holster. My rings before going to answer service is set at 30 secs, and that makes no difference.
Just need to find a decent case which doesn't interfere with any of the buttons.

sipat said:
Using a SPV M5000 and keep it in the leather/elastic holster provided with the phone, and have the same problem with loosing calls whilst extracting the phone from the holster. My rings before going to answer service is set at 30 secs, and that makes no difference.
Just need to find a decent case which doesn't interfere with any of the buttons.
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You could try this case. I loved my previous xda2 case and this is the closest I could get with a belt clip. Phone rings, I unclip, check the green (middle) phone button, press and answer. Finish and press red (end) phone button and reclip.
BTW I'm not at all related to the vendor.

Internet Explorer Annoyance

Hi Guy's
I am getting annoyed with Internet Explorer. It keeps opening when I recieve a call. As I end the call there is a pop up box asking if I want to connect. I allways say no and then close IE. Does anybody know how to stop IE doing this as it is a pain. I only want to open it when I want to go on the internet and not on almost every call.
TIA

this could be a dumb question, but are you accidentally pressing the IE button with your cheek when you make a call?

Maybe not such a dumb question, considering where the button is it is possible the when i put the phone to my ear it does touch my cheek without my noticeing it. I will experiment.
if it is the case is ther a way to dissable that button
TIA

I cannot imagine that is the case; you have to press the button pretty hard (on my device anyway); I think you would hurt your ear or at least hear the "click" if you happen to accidently pressing the device that hard to the ear.
Martin

believe it or not there have been multiple TyTN users that never noticed the top rocker button... and there have been more than a few complaints about IE and Mail starting in the middle of a conversation...
coincidence? Methinks not...

My TyT sometimes srarts up IE for no apparent reason... ummm... Holy Crap! That bar over the lights is a rocker button? Crap, I've been using this thing for over three weeks and never knew about it. Thought the drawn on icons were just to represent the lights (internet happens to be above the WiFi light). Wonder how I missed that, considering I have read the entire instruction booklet.

Hi Guy's
Well I have solved my problem with IE, as goestoeleven pointed out I could be pressing the "WnW" button by mistake. Well I had a call today which I did not put the phone to my face but used the speaker, yep it still did it.
The problem I found was not to me pressing the button on the phone but putting it into the case supplied with the phone. As you can see the buttons are slighly raised (this does not help).
Every time I put the phone into the case, because the lid has two strong magnets it slaps shut quite hard. This force causes the button to be pushed in and thereby starting IE. This tends to happen mainly if the screen is facing out.
I thought it was every time I answered a call that IE started but it was already on from the last time I put it in the holster.
To resolve this make sure the screen is facing inward so the magnets are on the back, this should reduce the impact.
But!!! I supposed if you have the phone on the holster and nock into something this cauld also trigger IE.
It would have been better if the button were recessed then it would not happen.
I hope this will solve this issue for some of you at least
P.S. This will might also answear the "Mail" starting on its own as the button is also on the same rocker although this has not happend to me...

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phone on the holster
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Its a phone not a gun :lol: :lol: :lol:
This problem has happened to me a few times and ive put it down to me touching the wnw button at the top when taking the phone out of the case.

question about power button

I accidently dropped my phone earlier today, now the power button doesn't have the click like the other buttons on the side of the phone. Anyone else experience this problem and come up with a solution to it or am I just **** out of luck?
thanks

I fix phones as a sort of living and the only times ive seen this happen is when someone drops it and the switch is out of place (and has snapped off)
in your case, if this has happened then you wouldnt be able to turn on/off the phone... is this the case?
another reason is the way the switch is.... its a plastic tab that sticks out where it makes contact with the rubber bit that you press
sometimes if that tab snaps alittle but is still intact, you'll lose the clicky feeling but still have full use of it.
the only other way is that the tab has gone in when you dropped it and does not come out as much as it did before. again, this would still work but sometimes if it has gone in too far, then you might find slight movement will switch the phone on/off

i can turn it on and off, its just really sensitive, and i can press the case above the power button and turn it on and off, i have to push a bit harder to do so but it is noticable. it is as you described in the last part of your post, is there any way to fix that? without tearing apart the phone and voiding any warranty that it might carry?
also my wifi doesn't seem to be working, but that problem started before my phone was dropped, it'll see the network yet it won't connect, it keeps trying to use cingular's service, that i don't have.

Accidential Answering

I use my 8525 in a side case and when the phone rings I usually pull out the phone to see who's calling to decide if i want to answer... though 9 out of 10 times i accidentally hit the answer button. I always lock my phone via device lock on today screen... is there a reg hack or setting which will allow me to disable or customize ALL the buttons (when in lock mode) on the 8525 so I don't accidentally answer. to me if i were to assign a button (ie power or ptt) to only be allowed to accept a call (when the phone is in lock mode) that'd be great. I'm tired of auto answering and what good does a device lock do if you can easily auto answer?

bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?

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bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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Sorry you're not getting replies and I have no solution of the type you are looking for sadly. I've tried to replicate what you say happens but it's not easy!!! My key is not that easily pressed and I always put the device back with screen towards my body - my fingers don't seem to get very close to the green button.
This is probably daft to suggest but have you checked the setting that lets you specify auto answer within X number of rings - just in case it's answering the call by itself!!. (apologies if you checked this setting already!!)
Mike

This may do what you want...
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=da5459e6aadc9c38d5a74b0276782091&board=19.0

Auto Answer is not set... the problem is (and it's a problem with the phone design) when the phone is locked none of the buttons respond until you hit the power button and then unlock the phone via the screen (which is good).
However when there is an incoming call or reminder the screen turns on and then a few buttons are active on the phone (send, end and the two soft keys seem to be). So when a phone call comes in, if the phone is in your pocket or the hip case while reaching for the phone it's VERY easy to accidentally press any of the active buttons and then accidentally accept or reject that call.
I've searched everywhere I can think of and I find little mention of this problem and no mention of a fix, most screen lock replacements only do as much locking as the WM5 built in lock does. The button re-activation after an incoming call is probably something built into the hardware. That's all I can deduce from this.
Thanks for the responses I've received so far.

I am on my fourth PDA phone and have used both Win Mobile 2003 and WM5. They all behaved this way and it is one of my biggest complaints with the Windows OS. I have seen apps for Palm that solve the problem. How hard could it be to have the option to only wake with the press of the power button?!

not hard at all, but the again its M$, i am surprised these devices to have ctrl-alt-del keys.

HD2 During Call Lock Screen Bugger

Hi there,
I have been a member for a short while but I have learned a lot from the members and enjoyed their genius in answering just about all of my questions ever since I upgraded to HD2.
Even after all my searches I still have one more bugger left with the phone which I could not find the work around as of yet.
I happen to be on the go almost all day long and I use wired or Bluetooth wireless hands free sets to get through my conversations.
Once I answer the phone via either of your headsets the screen stays on in the cramps of my pocket or back pack which mostly houses my HD2 while I am on the go. The proximity sensor seldom turns the screen off and as a result of my moving around some on screen bottoms, namely the end call, are pushed.
The hard key that turns the screen off normally also doubles back as the end call key so pushing it hangs the calls rather than turning the screen off.
In short I am looking for a way to make the screen go off during my conversations, preferably via some other hard key so as to make sure I have no unwanted anything activated, or deactivated for that matter
Thanks

So what seems to be the deal? It’s a weird question or what? I mean not even a simple reply? Have I got it so very off the base here or is this something nobody experienced or has had issues with?!!
Come on people throw me a line here!!

Did You tried a S2U2 ? It has a feature to lock device during incoming calls and many more.