Program List - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Don't know if it is possible, but is there anyway to organize the list for your progams (i.e. Put all office products in a folder), been looking and havent seen anything and the long list i have is getting old fast!
Thanks

What do you mean by "the list for your programs"?
The menu under "Start"?
The "browser" you get with Start>Programs?
Something else?
For the first two, there surely _is_ a way to organize in folders ...
But maybe you get a little more precise first?

Organize into Sub-Folders
I've got the same issue, and it seems pretty straightforward to me. Instead of having all the programs in one large lump, I'd like to create sub-folders, or somehow organize programs by subject so they are easier to find.

using file explorer,
windows\start menu\programs
create and edit as you like
DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING - if you do it can be sorted, but it's a hassle

Duh!
All it takes is knowing the incantation. I would never have thought to look in the Start Menu.
Thanks!

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How do I clear recent programs (or disable it)?

I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
I would love to know too
madmatt079 said:
I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
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There is a small app here that does the job http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35536
VJEschaton has this feature built in too - but with the same limitations, it only takes effect after the reset.
I think there may be another way to entirely remove recent programs, but it needs some hacking that I don't have time for right now.
If anyone is interested and would feel competent to write it, PM me.
V
The first solution worked well. Thank you.
Although if there is a method to remove "Recent Programs" all together then I'd like to know.
Thank you.
Dont they disapear when you soft reset ?
In another forum some guy (sorry I can't remember where and who), gave this solution:
"Use some type of utility (like Resco File Explorer or just browse to the PDA while in the cradle from your PC) and browse to the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder on the PDA. Create sub-folders in the root of the Programs folder (such as Utilities, Applications, Games, etc) and copy all of your shortcuts from the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder into these sub-folders. Once complete, go to Settings and Menus. From here, uncheck all of the programs that are checked and place checks next to all the sub-folders that you just created (* Make sure you stay under the maximum limit of 5 (or whatever)).
It seems that the "recent list" only monitors the Start Menu\Programs folder. If you move your shortcuts out of this folder, they no longer appear on that dreaded recent list. The major bonus that I've noticed is that the Start menu no longer has that 3 - 5 second lag!!!
Note: Using this work around, you will need to move the shortcuts of any newly installed applications into your sub-folders manually. Also, be sure you remap your PDA buttons to the location of the new shortcuts. Other then these two "cons", this solution works GREAT!!!"
I've tested it and it sure works great!!!
I forgot to mention that with this trick you can DISABLE recent documents list
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
Delicious, worked for me on my Cingular 8125 w/ 2.25. I was really getting tired of running ClearTemp all the bloody time.
Interestingly enough I have a folder called "Settings" and it won't let me show it on the Start Menu - I had to rename it to "Utilities".
madmatt079 said:
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
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EDIT: Screenshot added of what your tree should look like after this change. Removed confusing post.
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
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hanmin said:
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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meschle said:
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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You are the lucky one, I guess There are many (including me) which seems to find the start menu to be slow (e.g. this one ). I'm not sure why mine is slow (1-2 seconds), probably because I had many of the software installed on my SD (instead of the main memory) and my phone is a Charmer. Topic aside, is Wizard faster than Charmer (is there any benchmark to it)?
Other than the start menu, the Start->Setting pages are also very slow (a second or two) after each softreset. You don't have this problem?
madmatt079 said:
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
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Goto '\Windows\Start Menu' and create a directory (name it e.g Applications).
Now, under the 'Windows\Start Menu' there must be 3 subdirectories (Applications, Programs, Settings).
If yes, then move the desired apps, from the '\Programs' folder to the '\Applications' folder. (Before you remove the apps make sure that you have uncheck them from the 'Menus' list (Start -----> Settings -------> Menus).
:wink:
i cant move any
it gave me error access is denied when i try moving any shortcut
please help
ok i guess it was my expedition it was easy sory
and am shy of my weak knowledge ... thank you all any way

start menu - programs, settings...

ok, question
we know goddamn start menu,
my main problem is to make "settings" field able to launch something ELSE than pseudolauncher named "settings"
i found app from unpacked winCE rom ,that is far way better ,than wmxx settings m$hit.
look @ this, and compare both...
http://rapidshare.com/files/43325355/control.EXE.html
what files are needed to be hexedited to change that current cretinal launcher to that fast, safe app?
sry for LQ language,
..
p.s. and jesus, do not tell me about smallmenus,etc.
uhm, how does your settings field launch "settings" and "programs"?
like i said, my english is not good enough to describe what i mean..
start menu is "app", that holds (let's say) links to "programs" and "settings"(which windows are another program - pseudolauncher-like) - and these entries are two things, that i need to remap to do somethnig else, than usual....
need any idea what can be done to override these menu positions behaviour..
i hope it is clearer now...
i do not want to use start menu replacement etc, i have wm5newmenu for useful menus;
lets say i am curious...how. as simpliest try i can imagine hexediting in some files....which ones...
in other words: i want to set under "Settings" this app from link.
i cant be clearer...
Hi,
have you looked in \windows\startmenu folder? There are files and folders
that are displayed in the startmenu. Maybe you can play around with
them to get what you want. You can add or delete folders, rename the
original settings folder and add your own folder.
Ok no exe is started then, but is this necessary for you?
Houser
Best thing is you use gsfinder (freeware file explorer). With gsfinder, you can make shortcuts to your favorite applications, then copy these shortcuts to \windows\startmenu (of course you can also rename these shortcuts). This way you have your own personalized launcher
it is nice, that you are trying to help me, but i know everything about shotrtcuts .
i just need to override menu start hardcoded "programs" and "settings" assign(e)ments.
i am not noob lol
Have you tried Wisbar Advance?
helterskelter said:
Have you tried Wisbar Advance?
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you must be kidding
(no offece, just lolled while reading).
WA is not good way to do the things
i am minimalist, you know..
I think there are no responses, because its still not quite clear what you want to have.
How about describing step by step what you want to see (or not to see) when pressing start? Because all the answers sound good to me regarding your previously described problem....
Hope you get help soon ^^
i do not want to change start menu..:S
i just want to change "programs" and "settings" tap behaviour....
only thing i can imagine is hex editing, but i do not know where menu start coded is...
Hex editing????
You need to dissemble and rewrite a core OS component.
Which means:
a) Get a good ROM dump
b) Find the DLL responsible (not sure maybe coredll.dll or aygshell.dll)
c) Unsign it
d) Get IDA
e) Read and understand all its code
f) Rewrite the relevant portion
g) Sign new file with privileged certificate
h) Copy to device
The reason you did not get the answer you seek is because this kind of undertaking is far beyond the skills and knowledge of most people on this forum including my self.
Also its way easier (if maybe not as comfortable) to use start replacement apps.
(Oh, and if you are willing to take some friendly advice: Your English is just fine, but your first post is full of curses and is very aggressive. It deters people from replying because they might get a bang on the head for their trouble. A friendlier language next time may get better results)

Is There Any Way To Hide Programs

I Want To Know IF There Is Any Way That I Can Hide Programs Or Mask Them SO That They Don't Show Up On The Programs List And Also Hide Any Files Associated With The Program
HELP
Any Help Please
It's difficult to answer without knowing what you are trying to accomplish. Why would you want to hide programs on your own phone?
Anyway, your best luck will be with small programs, the kind that run as a single executable, that you can put somewhere on the SD card.
Im Sure Im Not The Only One With These Issues
My Girlfriend Was Always Questioning Me About Why I Always Kept My Phone Locked And Would Not Answer It When I Was Around Her So I Put A Program Called Magicall On My Phone I Don't Know If Your Familiar With That But You Can Screen Certain Calls Well As She Always Does Whenever I Leave My Phone Unlocked She Went Thru It When I Was In The Shower She Saw The Program But Couldn't Get Into It Sp She Went On The Internet To Find Out What It Was And Then She Wanted To Know Why It Was On My Phone And We've Been Arguing Ever Since So Please Help Me Id You Can It Would Be Much Appreciated Thank You In Advance
I don't have a technical answer..sounds more like it's a trust issue. Besides locking the phone, only thing I can think of is install on sd...but then you have to remember to remove the sd card when you put the phone down.
If this was a pc, I'd say install the private stuff on an encrypted volume like TrueCrypt. Not sure if there's anything like that for ppc.
This would probably work...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-freeotfe4pda-v3-00.html
But I'm telling you, it will be a real PITA to manage a setup like this. Methinks it would be easier to just get straight with the gf, but I know very little.
i tried to download the program but it said that it was not a valid ppc application any more suggestions
old_school_dave said:
This would probably work...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-freeotfe4pda-v3-00.html
But I'm telling you, it will be a real PITA to manage a setup like this. Methinks it would be easier to just get straight with the gf, but I know very little.
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Here is a solution if you are not trying to be open with gf:
Have the program cab on sd card renamed to something that would never be used by gf, such as erasememory.cab. Use program when you need it. I don't think this will work if you are trying to use a program to keep her from finding out about other gf, you may want to use the thing from Men in Black that erases her memory.
The program from earlier, or some other virtual encryption device may work, but you may have issues due to the fact that you are running a program tied into so many others (phone, sms, etc). You may make your phone pretty unstable.
Why don't you tell her that you accidently replied to a text that sent you spam messages and you were trying some freeware program to block, or that you were getting a call from some random number that was harrassing you and you were trying this program to see if it would stop the calls. You gotta think on your feet if you are going to prevent the ***** session after she found out. Careful if she pulls the verizon/sprint bill and checks sms/calls.
if what im trying to do is not possible then is there anyway to change the icon or mask the program im up for any suggestions right now other than being honest cause I love my women
"i tried to download the program but it said that it was not a valid ppc application any more suggestions"
exe files in general are install ment to be run on the pc with the pda connected not directly on the pda!
about hiding programs then
\windows\start menu\programs and remove the shortcut goes along way
after I deleted the shortcut I tried going into my documents to open the program but it didn't open is there another way to open it also I tried changing the name of the program with this method and it worked but is there a way I can change the icon because that would be perfect thanks for your input it is much APPRECIATED and if there's anything I can help you with let me know
rsturgis0601 said:
after I deleted the shortcut I tried going into my documents to open the program but it didn't open is there another way to open it also I tried changing the name of the program with this method and it worked but is there a way I can change the icon because that would be perfect thanks for your input it is much APPRECIATED and if there's anything I can help you with let me know
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Here is how you mask the icon.
Use total commander and navigate to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and find that .lnk file: delete it.
Find another .lnk file and copy to pasteboard. Go to another folder and paste it there (just as long as the other folder doesn't have the same link). Go into properties of that copied link and click on shortcut tab at the top. In the target field, click on File and navigate to Program Files/(DIRECTORY OF YOUR PROGRAM)/(EXECUTABLE FILE THAT OPENS YOUR PROGRAM) and click OK. Click File/Rename and call it something benign or something she wont click (like Erase Phone Memory).
You will then cut to pasteboard and navigate back to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and paste that file. You will then use that file to start the program. You could also change the name of the directory folder in program files if she knows how to navigate around in total commander/ file explorer. It will still show up in task manager as what it is though, and same goes for x button/ pocket plus.
Thanks Got It You Just Helped Me Take My Relationships To A Whole New Level
rsturgis0601 said:
Thanks Got It You Just Helped Me Take My Relationships To A Whole New Level
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Glad to help you be so devious. Happy mongering.

New App Idea

I was wondering if anyone knew of or could assist in writing an application that makes sense to me:
I spend half my life updating software on my Kaiser (and apps like apptodate, etc are very helpful), and I am constantly rearranging the icons after an update of a program. Icons are placed in the Start Menu generally in the main Start Menu/Programs Folder or in the Games folder, but virtually never anyplace else.
I would love a program that would allow you to select a cab for installation, search for an existing link to that program and move (or overwrite as necessary) the new .lnk file that the program update installs into the identical location of the old .lnk file. If it were a brand new installation, perhaps it could ask where you wanted the icons/links created so they wouldn't have to be moved later.
Does this exist and/or does this sound useful to others? It sounds like a lot of the functionality that is in Sashimi (which I also use and love), but not quite.
Thanks
RK
BTW I spend the other half my life updating the ROM

How to place programs in folders in start menu?

Sorry if this is a stupid question I have only just got a windows mobile. When you install programs it shows up on the start page. For example if I install uno is there anyway of putting it in the games folder ?
Thanks very much
You can indeed.
You need to do it through File Explorer.
If you go to My Device/Windows/Start Menu/Programs you can create new folders, cut and copy existing shortcuts into folders, etc.
If you open up file explorer and head into
windows folder..>..start menu..>..programs...
you should see all the shortcuts on the start menu (ie Uno) and the folders (ie Games)...
then you can just rearrange them as you like....
some of the htc shortcuts will re-appear after being moved but there is a registry entry you can alter to prevent this. You'll find info on that in the very useful hints and tips sticky at the top of the forum...........
Hope that helps...
Edit;
Beaten to it lol....
Thanks very much
Cheers for the replies i have managed to do it !
Thanks

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