Whats the difference between a hard and soft rest?.....to my understanding a hard rest is when you hold down the power button then get that message that says you will lose your data if you turn off. And a soft rest is when you just tap the power button on the right side and the screen turns off.
In those terms i've been soft resting my qtek every time i push that button,and its kind of been wearing it out, because i do this frequently throughout the day.
I guess my question is, how is everyone else putting there Prophet to sleep when not using it. Do you guys tap the power button, or is there something im missing?
some kinda of today plugin or something that produces a similar effect to taping the power button would be perfect does anyone know if there is such a thing.
Thanks!
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short push on power button = standby
long push = tunn off (and, effectively soft reset)
stylus in hole = soft reset.
Hard reset is completely different - see manual
Hope this helps
Related
hello,
My S100 can not shut down when i press the power button during 2 seconds. (Note: Turning your device off doesn’t turn the phone off. To turn the phone off, press and hold for two seconds.)
It looks off, but it's not, the phone is still on !
I heard i can use the "inflight mode", but i'd like to know the correct manip' to turn off the device AND the phone !
Any idea ? :roll:
ROM : 1.03.02 FRE
Date : 11/02/04
the only correct way to turn the phone off is to use the flight mode.
if you pressed the power botton for 2 sec you will turn the screen light off.
regards.
Pressing the power button does not turn the phone off, that is an error in the manual as far as I know.
Only Flight mode turns off the phone function, when you press the power buton shortly the S100 powers down ( goes into sleep mode), when you press the power button longer the backlight goes off. If you look close, you see the screen is still on then and when you tap it, the programs you tap will respond. When you turn the S100 to sleep mode, the screen switches completely off and does not respond to anything.
You cannot turn the S100 completely off, since no power means no RAM, means a hard reset, means all data you installed gone. In sleep mode, the S100 uses very little power to retain the data and is still able to run alarms, notifications etc.
If you want an easier way to switch your phone to flight mode than tapping the signal symbol in the top and then tapping in the pop-up ,and create alternative modes ( like meeting, loud, soft, quiet, etc), I recommend PocketZenPhone, where you can easily create your own phone modes with buttons on your today screen. The app is very cheap ( 5 euro's) and the links can be found on this forum.
thanx a lot for you're answers ! That helps !
If I am correct, if I need to reboote the device and the phone (for instance, after i installed the "contacts short cut programm designed by Mamaich), the only solution I have is to remove the battery ??? :roll:
I tried to put the phone in flight mode and shut down the device but it didn't work....
I think you need to read your manual better!
Rebooting the device can be done by a soft reset. You just put your stylus point into the little hole in the bottom of the S100, right of the headset hole, and press. It then restarts completely and loads your programs again etc.
Removing the battery also soft resets, BUT: If you leave it out too long, the back up batery runs out and you do a hard reset, thereby removing all data on your device you installed! It will leave you with an S100 as it came from the factory, but all your own data is completely gone (programs, contacts etc)! A Hard reset can also be done by pressing and holding the power button while at the same time doing a soft reset as described above, by putting your stylis in the little hole.
With some programs, like SPB PocketPlus you can select a small reset button to be present on your today screen, so you don't have to push your stylus in the little hole everytime you want to soft reset.
I hope this helps.
Hi, first time posting! so hello everyone 8)
I got xda exec, i had this problem with the first rom and the latest one too. For some random reason when my phone comes out of standby sometimes my backlight is off. i struggle to see my screen and when i check my backlight settings (brightness level) "on battery" its set to off on the slider. When i set it higher my backlight works. Also my backlight button does not respond when this happens. It just randomly happens but im starting to notice it more and more. Any ideas peeps
Try:
1- pressing the button beside the volume slider.
or
2 - pressing and holding the power button.
Hope that helps
JAmes
jamfitz86 said:
Try:
1- pressing the button beside the volume slider.
or
2 - pressing and holding the power button.
Hope that helps
JAmes
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thanks but i tried both, doesnt work. the only way it comes back is by going to backlight settings. Is there a file that could be corrupt that stores the information about the backlight settings?
Is the box "turn on backlight when a buttonis pressed or the screen is tapped"?
Other than that i've not got a clue. Someone who knows a bit more? any ideas?
JAmes
yeah thats ticked. the only way i get the back light to work when this happens is pushing the slider up, the one in the battery settings
seems real odd.
If noone else has a suggestion a hard reset might help, dont know if you've tried that yet. If you do this dont forget to back up everything.
JAmes
Hi,
I think it really is the POWER button: if I press and hold it for a few seconds, the slider goes to zero and the light goes off. Press and hold again restores the old situation.
Peter
My wife's Magician did this sometimes too.
Turned out that in her case it was because when you hold down the power button to turn the phone off (for a second or two) it doesn't actually turn the phone off, just the backlight. (Of course it all goes dark, so it looks like the phone is off if you don't check too closely.)
Then when you press the power button to turn it on again (after it's timed out and turned itself off), there's obviously still no backlight...
May not be your problem, but give it a check...
In nearly three months, I've had this happen perhaps four times. My device has the "on-battery" backlight set at one notch, to save the most power, and I guess something must just move it that one notch down to off.
So far there's been no uniform circumstance, other than it's guaranteed to happen at night under low street or room lighting so that I can't see the screen to get to and re-adjust the setting.
A hard reset doesn't help. I've reset numerous times with different ROM versions and had the problem reappear - but very infrequently as I said.
astage said:
A hard reset doesn't help. I've reset numerous times with different ROM versions and had the problem reappear
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just wierd and a tad annoying lol, i tried all of the above ideas anyway, i thought it might be bad programming thanks peeps for your input
Not much help - I know - but my Exec does the same - annoying and strange with no rhym or reason
Jean
I've had this a few times. I've had to hold the power button in for a few seconds to get the light back.
i had the same problem, just comed up a week or so. not changed any settings either.. wierd bug
I have problem with power button. when push pwr button dont,t off pda, but when hold pwr then lights off.
Power is never shut off in PDAs, thats the way PDAs have been designed.
I have the same problem, he is not talking about a full power down. If you hit the power button quickly the phone does nothing. However if you hold the power button down for about 2-3 seconds the lcd light turns off as it should.
Because of this I have to wait 1 minute for the unit to suspend before putting it back in the holster.
Does anybody have any idea as to why this might be happening. Im not new at this so hard reset, soft reset.. new rom... new radio...turning up side down while chanting. It does not change......
It will do it right one or twice in a week.
Maybe somebody that understands the signal that the unit receives upon pressing the power button might be able to shed some light on this.... Again the button does seem to operate just not suspend when pressed normally (1 second or less)
I have done some more research and this seems to be a common problem for some with BAs but nobody has found out why. There must be some kind of common hardware fault.. Does the power button send only one signal or is it a multi signal device.
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I have the same problem, he is not talking about a full power down. If you hit the power button quickly the phone does nothing. However if you hold the power button down for about 2-3 seconds the lcd light turns off as it should.
Because of this I have to wait 1 minute for the unit to suspend before putting it back in the holster.
Does anybody have any idea as to why this might be happening. Im not new at this so hard reset, soft reset.. new rom... new radio...turning up side down while chanting. It does not change......
It will do it right one or twice in a week.
Maybe somebody that understands the signal that the unit receives upon pressing the power button might be able to shed some light on this.... Again the button does seem to operate just not suspend when pressed normally (1 second or less)
I have done some more research and this seems to be a common problem for some with BAs but nobody has found out why. There must be some kind of common hardware fault.. Does the power button send only one signal or is it a multi signal device.
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Do you have a problem with turning on? First, we need to know whether it is hardware issue or not...
What you can do in the mean time with the turning off problem is by installing a poweroff app like shutdownme, psshutxp, etc etc...
Absolutely no problem with turning on from standby... Right now i just lock the phone before placing it back in the holster.
To make it clearer if you HOLD the power button down the backlight will turn off only. It will still show the display image and keys will still function (it dims)
Well, I had the same issue with the latest WM5 ROM. I thought I was too stupid to press the button, then I thought the button was broke, then I thought, I'll have to live with it.
Now that I have flashed to WM6, no problems at all! Never even came to my mind that this problem once existed. So I guess that some ROMs just have this particular bug?
Stefan
I have tried all the roms as well as 2003 and have the same issue in all of them. And im not alone.
Power off Problem
I'm in same condition.
Had the same problem when using WM2003 second Ed.
Now I've installed WM6 but nothing changed:
I cannot power-off/suspend but can turn off backlight if press and hold power button.
When in standby the button works fine to turn on the device.
Also, sometimes volume turns up continously with "noisy" beep ...
Anybody solved this problems?
Thanks,
Ruben
(WM 6 - 5.60.00 build 18125.0.4.2
radio 1.12.00 )
Power button has two modes:
1. Click mode: Click it once for a short duration. This turns off backlight and can be resumed by pressing it again or by pressing OK button
2. Press and Hold mode: Press and hold for few seconds and release. This mode will dim the backlight and no other button will bring it back. This is some kind of deep sleep in battery mode. To resume the original setting, press and hold Power button again for few more seconds.
(p.s.: I am not sure if this behavior is true for all the BA models)
April 1,
I know these modes...
It seems that "mode 1" doesn't work at all...
I would activate "Button Lock" (settings-->button--> Lock(tab)--> "lock all buttons except power button") to turn-off backlight and "lock all buttons except power button" but I cannnot...
You solved this problem?
I have had this issue of not being able to power off. One way I always got out of it was by clearing the registry hive. Unfortunately this brings the PDA back to the basic ROM. At this point the power button worked without any issues. Upon reloading the software the problem may come back. I believe the issue is related to some programs. I can't recall which program it was that seemed to cause the issue. One other thing I think that also worked was just entering the registry and getting back out and doing a hard reset.
I had the same problem with my 6600. the message button also didn't work. Believe it or not, to fix it. I banged the lower half (4-way area) on my desk a few times. Not hard enough to break the screen. But prolly hard enough to free what was prolly a sticky key. And now everything is working.
i am too
the same ...
when i press the power quickly , nothing happen
when i press the power for 2 sec. the backlight turns off
i tried every thing .... including formatting my BA
any one solve it ???
I have this same problem, my power button does`t work. i tried installing different roms but without any chance to fix it. maybe its an mechanic issue. i will change pwr button, i hope this work.
Look at one of my previous posts. I fixed it, twice, and other users have used the same metod to fix it. I think the problem is "hung bit" hardware related because you can also send it in for service, and they will change a chip, but i never had to.
Noob-question but shall the phone be on or off when u do the soft reset ? I mean, it feels like it should be off but then it is actually not a reset but a turn on and then turn off ?
Thanks!
Soft reset is basically 'restart' or 'reboot'. Turn off and on again?
Since the phone isn't actually 'off' in standby mode (what you get when you normally press the power button) it makes no difference - you're turning it fully off/back on when it's turned on on either way.
From a practical point of view it's best to soft reset from an application (search, there are a few around) to save you having to take the batter cover off and put it back on each time.
I asked this in another thread but then thought it should have its own as it is relevant to more than one problem. Apologies if this has been asked, I couldn't find it.
So as the title says, is there any way to soft reset without removing the battery cover, such as some button combination presses a la the iphone (in which you hold the power button and home button down).
The reason I ask is that on my old HD2 the battery cover was loose on one corner and was never flush and was in a constantly 'popped out' position which really really annoyed me and made the phone creak when in my hands. I don't want to keep putting the cover on and off so a button combination would be very useful.
If there is no button combination, would the AE button mapping program ( http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) work if you assigned for example a reset with a triple press of the back key? Although if the phone has crashed then I doubt any programs would respond, but worth a shot if it happens to anyone to try it
Thanks for your help!
If the device is freezed, any attempt to softreset with a button will be vain, no program will run and softreset the device; Open the cover and remove the battery (it's way easyer than find something to soft-reset, damn htc, once I've removed the back cover, it's all useless!)
If you want to soft-reset when the device is still running fine (or semi-fine) you can use any program you like, such as XDA Shutdown, or keep pressed the end jey to shut down
Yes, if the device hasn't frozen altogether, you just press long on the 'off' button and select 'power off'. When you switch on again, the device will soft reset.
I use PHM Reset. It does just what it says: soft reset! Of course, you can use only if the phone is not completely frozen but it's very helpful when your phone is becoming sluggish or other crappy behaviour we are familiar with...