Hermes ?s - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I'm decided that this is the device i want. Right now i have the HTC Wizard and would like some views about the Hermes.
1) People that use/used a wizard and have switched to the tytn/hermes, which keyboard do you find better, the Herm100(I-Mate JasJam) or the Herm200 (HTC TyTN)?
2) On ebay some listings say they have the new models, something about the serial numbers, whats the difference? (i've looked at the table in the wiki and they look like failed attempts to fix the SA problem)
3) Also do Herm100's (I-Mate JasJam) suffer from the Screen Alignment issue?
4) Finally which warrantys are honored in the US? A couple listings say the I-mate is the only one.
Side Note: i don't plan on getting the 8525 because it doesn't have the front facing camera and i travel overseas during the holiday's and would like to have the ability to video conference.

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Advice with Wizard purchase

Hello everyone.
I'm seriously considering purchasing a Qtek 9100. I wanted to ask a few questions before I go ahead and I'm hoping someone could help me. I wanted to buy a qtek primarily because of the color (slight darker silver). Is the qtek any different from the O2, K-jam.. and all other versions? I know O2 comes with a preinstalled software interface but are there any other differences? Particularly in processor performance or perhaps resolved bugs?
Question number two is adding a TomTom 5.21 Bluetooth GPS. I do not have much experience with GPS systems and quite frankly I just intend to get the Bluetooth receiver (from TomTom) and perhaps download a copy of the software online (Cracked-torrent [of course for educational purpose ] ). Is this going to work or is it absolutely necessary to purchase the software otherwise the GPS unit will throw me off a cliff. Or is there a better GPS system worth acquiring? (for UK).
Thanks a bunch and I wait eagerly for any help.
Hi,
As far as I know all hardware of the different brands at the same; they all come from the HTC factories. Only software varies. If you are going to use it with an GRPS connection I would advise a branded version (you'll get great value and save some serious bucks) if not the QTEK is the only one that comes without SIM lock. You can swap the ROM as you like, after unlocking they all work with the QTEK, K-JAM or any other rom version as long as it's for a HTC Wizard phone.
As for the TomTom, it'll work, but you still need to purchase TomTom if you want to use it. How else will they improve the software if noone buys and they their cash runs dry? (Board policy )
Only the K-JAM Rom allows you to connect to a WIFI network that uses the G standard, but it'll still be only at 11 mb/s. So that shouldn't be an issue. Localized (non english) versions do have some issues but none of great importance.
Go ahaed, buy one. I don't know anyone that regrets it.
Cheers
Cactus
In my eyes, the most important thing you have to bear in mind is that the Qtek version of the Wizard has one major flaw: the paint of the 'messaging', 'internet explorer' , etc. buttons comes off. I have not only read about this on multiple forums, but a friend of mine has experienced this first hand.
as far as I know, Qtek is the only manufacturer who has tried to save some expenses on 'quality paint'
hehe,
Many wish T-Mobile used QTEK's paint It would have saved a lot of people scrubbing hard with a sugarcube to get the ugly pink ie-like symbol off
By now I know what button is for whitch function, I wouldn't mind....
Thank le cactus
Thank you, le cactus. That's a very enlightening response. I would most definitely buy one soon. I've read quite a bit about the the Wizard and I know it came out under different manufacturer brands. I chose the qtek only because I personally liked the darker design. Its really a personal preference. I also wanted to make sure they didn't differ too much in stability.
I will support TomTom as it is the only right thing to do. Again, I just needed to confirm that it worked following a 'different' approach. Thanks a bunch, mate.
I can't wait to purchase my Wizard as my old nokia 5100 is ready to retire. I can't wait for my new toy.
I'm not too bothered with wifi g as well. I don't expect considerable difference with the Wizard's condervative processor speed. Furthermore, I don't intend to use the device for intensive surfing. I might restrict use to checking emails and occasional surfing when I'm too lazy to get up and use my computer.

Should I get a Universal?

Hello,
Due to changing networks I am in the position of being able to choose a new handset and have decided (for the third time) to go for a Windows Mobile device.
I currently have an M2000 which has been sold so I need to choose what to get next.
I've narrowed down my choice to either a Wizard(Vario in the UK) or the Universal.
My obvious concern with the Universal is the size, however only I can answer whether that will be an issue by going to look at the phone in the metal (I still have my beloved C500 for nights out etc.)
So, that leaves the issue of performance etc. I will mainly be using it for WiFi/web, TomTom, SMS, the odd call and watching films on TCPMP (do i encode movies in 640x480 for this?). Oh and the odd game!
1) I presume TomTom works ok? I have version 5.00.
2) Does anyone know if the Handmark series of games work on it?
3) Is software generally incompatible with it?
In other words sell it to me
My concerns about the vario mainly relate to performance, noting a lot of people have issues with TomTom and videos (the other plus of the Universal, the nice screen!). Anyone gone from a Universal to a Vario or visa versa?
Thanks for any comments.

HTC TyTN vs i-mate JASJAM

Now that the JasJam has made an appearance I would like to start a thread to compare these two models - especially as I have not yet plunged into a purchase.
1. The screen shots of the two variants appear to show a slight difference in the spacing of the buttons. I have been told by a reseller that JasJam's buttons have raised symbols and have a better feel where as TyTN's are flat. Can anyone comment on that?
2. There appears to be some confusion about Bluetooth. The club i-mate web site states that JasJam is Bluetooth v1.2 without EDR, however, the specs on a number of the reseller's sites states v2.0. HTC states ton its site that the TyTN is v2.0 without EDR. Can anyone clear that up?
3. The club i-mate site states the JasJam has IrDA whereas HTC makes no mention of this for TyTN. However, a reseller who sells both has told me that both variants have IrDA. Can anyone confirm that?
4. Finally, there is much discussion about screen alignment issues with the TyTN, however, I have seen nothing yet to suggest that the JasJam is suffering from the same fate. I did see one other post on another forum wondering about the same question. Can anyone pass a comment about that most importand topic?
Presently, in the USA at least the resell price is about $150 more for the JasJam. The answers to the 4 questions above will go along way to determining whether ther premium price is worth paying or not.
robjhellis said:
Now that the JasJam has made an appearance I would like to start a thread to compare these two models - especially as I have not yet plunged into a purchase.
1. The screen shots of the two variants appear to show a slight difference in the spacing of the buttons. I have been told by a reseller that JasJam's buttons have raised symbols and have a better feel where as TyTN's are flat. Can anyone comment on that?
2. There appears to be some confusion about Bluetooth. The club i-mate web site states that JasJam is Bluetooth v1.2 without EDR, however, the specs on a number of the reseller's sites states v2.0. HTC states ton its site that the TyTN is v2.0 without EDR. Can anyone clear that up?
3. The club i-mate site states the JasJam has IrDA whereas HTC makes no mention of this for TyTN. However, a reseller who sells both has told me that both variants have IrDA. Can anyone confirm that?
4. Finally, there is much discussion about screen alignment issues with the TyTN, however, I have seen nothing yet to suggest that the JasJam is suffering from the same fate. I did see one other post on another forum wondering about the same question. Can anyone pass a comment about that most importand topic?
Presently, in the USA at least the resell price is about $150 more for the JasJam. The answers to the 4 questions above will go along way to determining whether ther premium price is worth paying or not.
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1. The JasJam is a HERM100 device. The TyTN is a HERM200. They are identical functionally. The difference is the button configuration.
2. Both phones have Bluetooth 2.0 without EDR (makes you wonder how they can that BT2.0, but that's another conversation).
3. Both have IrDA (which most people never use)
4. (Never had a screen alignment problem with two TyTN's and never used a JasJam).
I can tell you that I had originally intended to buy the i-Mate version (there seem to be more frequent ROM updates, support website, etc.), but I definitely don't feel it's worth a premium price.
Furthermore, i-Mate seems to flood its ExtROM with a bunch of crap, which you'll need to remove anyway...
Just my opinion...
JASJAM
I have a JASJAM and I agree on a couple of points that have been raised, unecessary software loads, the stability is improved over the initial release of the K-Jam, the buttons and keyboard are excellent.
Additional points on the positive are the black finish is very strong and after one fall from the car to the road I have no scratches and screen intact. The jog wheel is reason alone to upgrade as responding to email is fast and easy because it can navigate pretty well all menus with it and not having to use the stylus..
This the first 3G phone I have been able to use as Edge on the K-Jam is unsupported here in Australia; so the higher download speed and using this as a USB modem are excellent.
An annoying point is that the push email doesn't work on WLan it only works on GPRS and I am desperately looking for the registry hack to fix this to save $ on downloads.
The WMP Today utility is really useful being able to control Media Player from the Today Screen is really handy for padcast playback. However it would be even more useful if the jog wheel worked on this utility as well as the buttons are too small for finger use.
Having A2DP work out of the box is great and I have no skipping as others have reported.
Overall downloading and playing back podcasts on this phone is a very enjoyablevexperience. As an initial experience with this device (and I have used PDAs since the Palm Vx) it is a very functional and reliable item.
I have the JasJam and I bought because it looked better the TyTN to me. Technically I should I have purchased the TyTN (because it was cheaper)but I did not like keyboard when I tried it. I have not had the alignment issue but I can't say it does not exist because not too many people with the JasJam yet.

TyTN or Wizard - what to have

Hi,
I'm in the (un?)lucky position of rolling out 14 devices to our Managers and they WERE going to be Qtek 9100s (HTC Wizard) from Vodafone until someone pointed out the 'better' Vodafone 1605 (TyTN).
As far as I can see there's not much in it apart from the TyTN having a facelift, better spec camera (+ one more camera), 3G capabilities, but having popped along here for some insight, I am concerned about the screen alignment issue (can't be having 14 pissed off Managers after my blood) and other general gripes so what would you guys do - stick with the 9100 (Wizard) or go for the 1605 (TyTN)?
Is the 9100 a better (safer, tried and more tested) bet?
I've had a 9100 to play with for a few days and it seems fine - if a little suggish even when overclocked to 240Mhz - does the TyTN's different processor make a lot of difference?
Also (a bit OT - hope you don't mind), as we're not on a 3G tariff (I presume?! - do you have to specifically ask for this on Vodafone business? We don't really want or need it), do we just ignore the 3Gness of the TyTN or will it 'do' 3G whenever and wherever it can?
Thanks
L3K
Really no comparison, the Tytn is what you want the wizard to be. You should try both and see the real difference. Its like night and day...The wizard was good, but needed a little more speed and refinement. The Tytn is almost there.. Again try both before making your decision. Good Luck.
I would also point out that the jog wheel makes navigation much easier, especially of contacts.
the whole unit is far more responsive and the extra browsing speed may be useful for retrieving e-mails.
I AM a Manager, Past CEO, now Director of Telemedicine activities.
I have both, Wizard (overclocked to 240, omapclock 0.4) and TyTN and I had almost all releases of Windows Ce since the first Casio Caiopeia.
DON'T BUY a TyTN NOW IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR JOB
Wizard ROM is Stable, (I have last I-Mate) the speed in all days activities is more or less the same between TyTN and overclocked Wizard, if you are in an EDGE area the GSM data speed is really faster enought to have fast e-mail and IE navigation.
TyTN is UNSTABLE, software and hw problems, like SD card problems (it disappear sometimes), windows media scrambled MSMETADATA, hangup during sync, some appz not compatible, Screen aligment issue, lot of small bugs also with "side" features, like camera and USB Sync (like wizard first rom) .
If they NEED video telefony is the only real PRO, but UNIVERSAL is a better solution, closer price, or new MITAC or Motorola one hand device ( this isn't the good forum to compare ).
So WAIT new hardware release and new ROM release, and tell them that they have to work so 80% MTBF isn't enought (Medium Time Between Fault)
We (here) are a special group of technology entusiast, and are the real wide beta testers, but business is business
sergiopi said:
I AM a Manager, Past CEO, now Director of Telemedicine activities.
I have both, Wizard (overclocked to 240, omapclock 0.4) and TyTN and I had almost all releases of Windows Ce since the first Casio Caiopeia.
DON'T BUY a TyTN NOW IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR JOB
Wizard ROM is Stable, (I have last I-Mate) the speed in all days activities is more or less the same between TyTN and overclocked Wizard, if you are in an EDGE area the GSM data speed is really faster enought to have fast e-mail and IE navigation.
TyTN is UNSTABLE, software and hw problems, like SD card problems (it disappear sometimes), windows media scrambled MSMETADATA, hangup during sync, some appz not compatible, Screen aligment issue, lot of small bugs also with "side" features, like camera and USB Sync (like wizard first rom) .
If they NEED video telefony is the only real PRO, but UNIVERSAL is a better solution, closer price, or new MITAC or Motorola one hand device ( this isn't the good forum to compare ).
So WAIT new hardware release and new ROM release, and tell them that they have to work so 80% MTBF isn't enought (Medium Time Between Fault)
We (here) are a special group of technology entusiast, and are the real wide beta testers, but business is business
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Sergio,
I think that is a bit sensationalist. I have not had the SA issues with the latest v1605's S/N HT631x. I'd be surprised if the other issues that are being reported are not by people that are trying to use the device as a power device, running multimedia video and audio, games etc, not in the slightest in the way that a business user would be using it. I never had the issues that were reported with the Wizard, but a lot of people expect devices to be stable using software not designed for the chipsets and/or operating systems IMHO.
@linker I would look over at our review of the v1605 on www.4winmobile.com and also ask Voda for a trial version of the Treo 750v and the v1605. Make it clear to them that you expect devices that have been tested prior to shipment for the keyboard issues. The QTek 9100 is also know to be buggy, more than the other iterations AFAIK.
Believe me, the most important thing in a Manager mind is: "it had to work anytime, anywere, the only thing I can accept is to charge the battery!"
Read the tyTn and the wizard forums: tytn forum is full of "problems", wizard forum is full of "enhancements", and this is normal, the first has only 3-4 months of wide beta, the second is on the wild since one year.
Gold business lesson: don't be the first, try to be the SECOND! (so called "the windows lesson" )
I think I am a power user, but:
if I put away my SD I am afraid every time I have to put it in again, 50% not recognized at first insert.
- I am resetting my TyTn once a day (new USB drivers?)
- I still haven't heard ANY OFFICIAL NEWS that Screen aligment issue was solved
- I still have to delete manually MSMETADATA every day to have again my video and music list
- I can hangup my TyTN in several well known ways...
- HTC Service is not as good as we expected
So may be he will have still is job after swapping the management to TyTN, but he WILL BE VERY BUSY
Hi Guys - just to update you -
My Vodafone direct business sales contact spoke to their techies and they confirmed the screen problem.
Vodafone are sending me a 1605 to check out so I am going to bash it around (in the most technical sense possible) for a couple of days to see what happens)
I have both the Wizard and Tytn, using them on the Cingular network in California. On the latest ROM, overclocked to 260MHz (using BatteryStatus), the user interface is responsive enough to be usable, and the Wizard is stable for 6 to 8 weeks at a time, sometimes even longer. I have problems with the TyTn every few hours to every few days. The TyTN hardware is superior, but the software is worse than a lot of Beta software I've played with.
If my job were on the line, I would definitely go with the Wizard at this point.
linker3000 said:
Hi Guys - just to update you -
My Vodafone direct business sales contact spoke to their techies and they confirmed the screen problem.
Vodafone are sending me a 1605 to check out so I am going to bash it around (in the most technical sense possible) for a couple of days to see what happens)
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Hermes for sale (UK)

Hi all,
I've finally decided to sell my hermes - I've had a diamond for 3 months now but never got around to putting my tytn up for sale.
I won't bother you all with the specs as I'm pretty sure you know them.
It's orange branded (M3100) but unlocked and has hardspl.
It's currently running this WM6.1 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428597
Which I installed as it will look more impressive with touchflo when I put it on ebay if it doesn't sell on here.
If anyone wants it with a different rom but doesn't fancy flashing it, just link me to the rom and I'll put it on there. Same goes for any software you want on it - let me know and I'll set it up (tomtom etc..?)
I'll also throw in my bluetooth GPS receiver (a QSTARZ BT-Q800 which is pretty old but gets a fix in under 30 seconds and never loses signal). I don't have any manuals or cables for the GPS receiver but it charges through the same miniusb cable as the tytn.
The tytn is in good condition. I'll add some photos below. There are a couple of scratches on the silver part at the top (next to the front camera).
Not a lot to say really, it's always worked flawlessley for me. I've flashed a few roms on it in the past without any problems.
It will come in its original box with a wall charger, usb cable, spare stylus, manuals (not that they're any use as they're for the orange branded WM5).
I'd prefer a local pickup (so the buyer can see the phone first) from Essex in the UK if possible, but I imagine shipping to anywhere in the UK won't be more than £10 recorded.
I'm looking for around £100 for the lot. I'd prefer cash on collection but paypal is ok if I'm going to post it.
If you want to make an offer, please either post here or pm me.
Thanks!
would you ship to usa?

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