i rember there was a sucess in running an emulation of windows 98 on pocketpc 2003 se
and i have seen that people have been able to put linux on the universal
has anyone tryed to do either an emulation or directly put windows 98 on the universal??
henvanvo said:
i rember there was a sucess in running an emulation of windows 98 on pocketpc 2003 se
and i have seen that people have been able to put linux on the universal
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I remember running a DOS emulator either on my Universal (or it may have been my Himilaya - it was a while ago) but no way would I have considered putting Win98 on there - too slow!
has anyone tryed to do either an emulation or directly put windows 98 on the universal??
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Emulation = maybe
Directly = No chance whatsoever. The platforms are VERY different and have almost nothing in common other than part of the name.
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Hello, all is in the title do you think there is a chance to see one day windows 98, 2000 or even xp on a Athena? Thanks
denver212121 said:
Hello, all is in the title do you think there is a chance to see one day windows 98, 2000 or even xp on a Athena? Thanks
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i have already done it.....through remote desktop.
Hm.. I ever read from somewhere... but i forgot... but they tried to install Win98 on Alpine, it's succes but have a little bug... then i didn't follow up again, and lose their info.
But I'm not sure they lie or no...(Even they have pict, it's easy to make it up)
In theory you could install XPe. E being embedded, i got a couple of wyse winterms that have arm x scale processors and run XPe. The rom size is about 200MB. BTH i think i prefer CE on my hand held...
Is there currently a working emulator for either of these operating systems available for windows mobile 6?
I've tried searching all I can and have found no answers yet.
HAHAHAHAHahahahah.... ah, but seriously, no.
TylerC161 said:
Is there currently a working emulator for either of these operating systems available for windows mobile 6?
I've tried searching all I can and have found no answers yet.
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Do you realize thats the equivalent of asking if my pc can emulate a cray mainframe? Running one windows 95 program would use up all the memory and cpu your entire phone has and then some.
Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..the pentium is 1000 times faster and keep in mind the average phone has 20-30 meg of memory...the average pc...ok..even a dog old pentium 150 typically had 128 meg of ram available.
Now do you see why the first poster is laughing at you?
famewolf said:
Do you realize thats the equivalent of asking if my pc can emulate a cray mainframe? Running one windows 95 program would use up all the memory and cpu your entire phone has and then some.
Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..the pentium is 1000 times faster and keep in mind the average phone has 20-30 meg of memory...the average pc...ok..even a dog old pentium 150 typically had 128 meg of ram available.
Now do you see why the first poster is laughing at you?
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I had a pentium 90 with 16mb ram.
but anyway, I've seen someone running windows 95 on a pocket pc
http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3660
dont know if it works on wm6 but it looks like you need a large storage card, a lot of patience, a great cpu, lots of memory and a vga screen at least.
good luck
Its not so hard to believe is it?
I had it running on my PSP, so why not my ppc?
Okay, well in that case, whats the best software to access your PC through the internet on your ppc? I used to have this software that worked via wifi for my PSP that would let me operate my windows machine with the psp, but I cant remember its name, and thats not QUITE what im looking for. I want one that will work NON wifi as well
you can use pocketdos or dosbox with bochs plugin to make win95 work. Nevertheless you wont get any decent speed on it.
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Its not so hard to believe is it?
Okay, well in that case, whats the best software to access your PC through the internet on your ppc? I used to have this software that worked via wifi for my PSP that would let me operate my windows machine with the psp, but I cant remember its name, and thats not QUITE what im looking for. I want one that will work NON wifi as well
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You are probably referring to VNC and there are plenty of clients that run on ppc.
LlamaV3 said:
I had a pentium 90 with 16mb ram.
but anyway, I've seen someone running windows 95 on a pocket pc
http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3660
dont know if it works on wm6 but it looks like you need a large storage card, a lot of patience, a great cpu, lots of memory and a vga screen at least.
good luck
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Yep and your gonna trash the storage card in a short amount of time due to all the read/writes since it's basically using it as a huge swapfile.
there's the emulator of win32-x86 for win32-arm platform. it called wow86 and developed by GreateVK. it is not ready-to-use product yet. but it successfully run some (even simple) x86-applications without modifications.
p.s. wow86 and applications should be placed into the root folder of your device
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Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..
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the PSP has a lesser speed MIPS processor than some of the available ppc's today.
MIPS being the old one we don't use anymore.
and look at what IT can do, without anything but that to run it's games.
and take a look at the NEC MobilePro 900C.
it has an Intel PXA255 400MHz processor, and runs windows ce .net 4.2.
which basically has the same interface as windows xp with classic skins and does alot of the same things (e.g. the full desktop ms office apps).
i think we underestimate the possibility of today's pxa270 624mhz processors and the mobile graphics chips.
but yer, pocketdos and the likes have shown to run windows 95 and 98.
if they were more optimized it could be a possibility to run basic apps and find a way to convert the instruction set to run more complicated apps.
"(e.g. the full desktop ms office apps)."
maybe more full then the office mobile
but i doubt ms would ever compile a full office
nor a full windows for the arm based instructionset
the asm codes are not the same
all the software needs a full recompile to work
unless a full emulator is being used
the maintaince expenses for ms to make something like that
would be staggering
when ms first made windows CE all devices which had CE had the same GUI as NEC MobilePro 900C
but nobody was buying the devices people pref'd the palm way of operating their pda's
so ms made pocketpc series
this was not a step down it was a step besides
CE is not any closer to real windows then pocketpc series it's just different
it's the same core it's the same everything but imput and gui
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the PSP has a lesser speed MIPS processor than some of the available ppc's today.
MIPS being the old one we don't use anymore.
and look at what IT can do, without anything but that to run it's games.
and take a look at the NEC MobilePro 900C.
it has an Intel PXA255 400MHz processor, and runs windows ce .net 4.2.
which basically has the same interface as windows xp with classic skins and does alot of the same things (e.g. the full desktop ms office apps).
i think we underestimate the possibility of today's pxa270 624mhz processors and the mobile graphics chips.
but yer, pocketdos and the likes have shown to run windows 95 and 98.
if they were more optimized it could be a possibility to run basic apps and find a way to convert the instruction set to run more complicated apps.
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All very true..but the person asking has a tmobile wing which is a 200 mhz arm chip. The low end of the spectrum (I should know as I have the MDA which is the same chip) and it's gonna run a PC emulator like that CRAPPY as all get out. It has a hard enough time emulating a gameboy. Also in the end would still be easier to "optimize" the code into a ppc version then to try to run bloated regular windows programs where they stopped caring about resources a long time ago.
Rudegar said:
"(e.g. the full desktop ms office apps)."
maybe more full then the office mobile
but i doubt ms would ever compile a full office
nor a full windows for the arm based instructionset
the asm codes are not the same
all the software needs a full recompile to work
unless a full emulator is being used
the maintaince expenses for ms to make something like that
would be staggering
when ms first made windows CE all devices which had CE had the same GUI as NEC MobilePro 900C
but nobody was buying the devices people pref'd the palm way of operating their pda's
so ms made pocketpc series
this was not a step down it was a step besides
CE is not any closer to real windows then pocketpc series it's just different
it's the same core it's the same everything but imput and gui
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If you want the full version of MS Office, you can try porting Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org or http://porting.openoffice.org) to Windows Mobile. I'm sure a lot of us here at XDA-Developers would like to see that happen.
i guess that it would be easier to compile it for linux on our phones
being that i think the wm win32 stk is more limited then linux is terms
of which components are alowed
hello,
is there any emulator/software, which can run windows programs on pocketpc? i dont mean big programs. just small ones (< 500 kb or so)
same reason we are not likely to see a ps3 emulator for old commodore 64 home computers from the 80's
this is not likely to happen an arm based cpu is nowhere as powerful as an x86 cpu which windows run on even if they are the same mhz
again windows handle too little memory by swapping mem onto it's harddisk is which is something that is not possible on the windows mobile platform
pocketdosBox is as close as you get i believe
DocMAX said:
hello,
is there any emulator/software, which can run windows programs on pocketpc? i dont mean big programs. just small ones (< 500 kb or so)
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(i know its the wrong forum, but im gonna answer anyway )
hi,
you mean like wine on linux? im pretty sure this would work on a win98 install on bochs, just search the forum for the thread and do it. would consume a little more RAM tho.
Somebody had Win3.11 running under pocketDOS. The easier thing is to just run RDP or VNC and be able to run everything on your desktop.
PS3 emulator on C64 is a harsh analogy for this. I've run Win95 on the Toshiba G900 though it wasn't fast enough to be useful for anything
You can try Bochs and Win95 as mentioned.. I remember myself trying it on my old FSC PocketLOOX N520 (50MB RAM, 312MHz) and it worked - very slow, for normal every day work unusable, but it worked.
Hi All,
I have been looking for an application for Windows Mobile like we have for our PC's/Laptops. I am talking about a software like VirtualPC (VPC), VirtualBox (VBOX) and VMware (VirtualMachine).
If there is a VirtualWM (VWM) so we can run any ROM we desire on our phones ie on the HTC Touch HD.
On my PC I am using Windows Vista but in that Vista I am running Windows XP (another operating system, it is a virtual computer that looks and acts like the real thing).
With VWM, we could run multiple ROMS etc!
Has anyone thought of this or found any applications like that?
This is a video on VBOX for those who don't know what a Virtual Machine is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqM5q-vsMs
dataSaMm said:
Hi All,
I have been looking for an application for Windows Mobile like we have for our PC's/Laptops. I am talking about a software like VirtualPC (VPC), VirtualBox (VBOX) and VMware (VirtualMachine).
If there is a VirtualWM (VWM) so we can run any ROM we desire on our phones ie on the HTC Touch HD.
On my PC I am using Windows Vista but in that Vista I am running Windows XP (another operating system, it is a virtual computer that looks and acts like the real thing).
With VWM, we could run multiple ROMS etc!
Has anyone thought of this or found any applications like that?
This is a video on VBOX for those who don't know what a Virtual Machine is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqM5q-vsMs
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Only Microsoft Mobile Device emulator is available for pc as a "Virtual Machine" for WM but you can't run Cooked images only the default MS Winmo Image.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...1E-C093-4B15-AB0C-A2CE5BFFDB47&displaylang=en
There is a thread here in XDA about running custom roms in Emulator but it only could run modified MS deafult image if I am right.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411154
dataSaMm said:
Hi All,
I have been looking for an application for Windows Mobile like we have for our PC's/Laptops. I am talking about a software like VirtualPC (VPC), VirtualBox (VBOX) and VMware (VirtualMachine).
If there is a VirtualWM (VWM) so we can run any ROM we desire on our phones ie on the HTC Touch HD.
On my PC I am using Windows Vista but in that Vista I am running Windows XP (another operating system, it is a virtual computer that looks and acts like the real thing).
With VWM, we could run multiple ROMS etc!
Has anyone thought of this or found any applications like that?
This is a video on VBOX for those who don't know what a Virtual Machine is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqM5q-vsMs
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vmware seem to be working on this
I think it was demo'd at vmworld, February
http://www.vmware.com/technology/mobile/
I'm waiting for this to play with too
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seanudal said:
Hi
I have seen xp on a nokia
I
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no.........
seanudal said:
Hi
I have installed pocketDos with ms dos 6.22 and win 3.0 but want to run 3.1 or 95, 98 or xp. I have seen xp on a nokia with dosbox and tried pdosbox yesterday but it crashes my phone.
I want to run Encore 4.1 music notator on my xperia which works on win 3.1 I am unable to find a decent notator for windows mobile.
Will pDOSbox ever work on the xperia?
Regards
Sean
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I've run 95 and 98 on my X1 but it runs far too slowly to be useful but if you want to give it a go check out page 3 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362344
Good luck
well it "works" with qemu but thats still in a work in progress my xperia DID boot windows 95 with sound etc, i could open paint etc but its not really smooth .. just to show off
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