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How can you confirm on the x7501 whether you are running:
gsm
umts
3g
hsdpa
I am getting the H icon, but I don't think my speeds are matching that.
Thanks
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You can check here, but it may also depend on what part of the world you're in, whether or not this test will be accurate. I get excellent results on it in Lexington, Kentucky USA...
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1
Thanks, it didn't work on Netfront, but did on Opera.
I got 775 kbit/sec
that sounds like HSDPA speeds at minimum, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's fast enough to call HSDPA. I hadn't noticed your American flag & AT&T icons before (don't ask me how...). I'm also on AT&T, but usually use my home wifi and keep my sim in an Ipaq HW6515a for everyday phone. Wifi is over 1100, usually. The x7501 isn't so fun to use as a phone, especially when I work in a rough environment and have to worry about dropping or breaking it..
That's the average speed I get on Mobile Speed Test, with radio 1.58 and 3G/H. I've gotten as high as around 1000 but that's rare. On Edge I never got above 150, and on older radios never much above 500 on 3G/H.
Happily, I no longer suffer on Edge at home! As of a week ago they enabled 3G/H in my county and the county to the east of mine, to the PA/MD line. Their coverage viewer doesn't even show this change yet. It shows 3G stopping about 10-15 miles north of Baltimore, but I can verify it goes all the way north until you cross into PA. I haven't seen any news or notification that this was going to (or did) happen, so maybe they are quietly and quickly rolling their whole network over to 3G?
Hopefully this isn't off topic.
What to look for if you still don't have it in your area:
Have had some issues the last few weeks with tmobile and noticed "funny" things like certain areas not having 3g but full edge when I knew they were capable of it. Most of the time this happened around 2am or later. Anyway I now can say without a doubt that HSDPA+ is in central Florida or in the process of being rolled out. Other odd issues I noticed was
Consistent min speed of 2.3mbit when before it was 500kbit min. Highest I got so far in my apartment which is a 3-4 bar area was 5.5mbit. Highest before was 1.5 and in a very strong 4 bar area close by 1.8 max. Upload still leaves *ALOT* to be desired with .23 to -.4 mbps upload. They seem to be using similiar technology to the burst seen on cable modems, ie road runner will give you 20mbit for their "turbo" with "bursts" up to 30mbit. This could also just be how hsdpa works anyway to make sure there aren't alot of re-requests for data due to a bad signal but it definately starts off around 300-500kbit and bursts up after 1-4 seconds to the faster speed.
Either way perfect timing tmobile.
I hope that's true. I've been having alot of 3g outtages lately.
JCopernicus said:
I hope that's true. I've been having alot of 3g outtages lately.
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I'm almost certain it is. I just called last night to complain about it because I was staying at my parents house sitting and it happened up there too, as well as by my girlfriend's house about 10 minutes down the road from my apartment.
I'm really bothered though by the upload speeds.. but i guess its whatever. It's either my area, or tmobile in general.. I've had a couple of swaps with the same issue so its not the phone.
As a side note.. does nexus support 21mbit hsdpa+?
no the nexus one only supports up to 7.2mbps
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no the nexus one only supports up to 7.2mbps
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ouch I was really hoping that wasn't the case. any that go beyond to 21mbps?
I wish AT&T upgraded the towers here. I can't tell you how many times I go into a classroom at UCF and there's no reception.
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I wish AT&T upgraded the towers here. I can't tell you how many times I go into a classroom at UCF and there's no reception.
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I'm pretty sure schools do that on purpose so you can pay attention in class.
The same thing happens at my university up here in Illinois, once you step outside the building, full bars again.
rolled out in Houston Texas
Hey - starting last week, I noticed flaky things with T-mobile in Houston area similar to what OP stated. But over the weekend, I realized they were rolling out hsdpa+ and then the next day - full blown hspa. I'm so happy.
Before today, the ul speeds were .5 - .6. Today, I'm getting between 1.5 and 1.8 ul speeds!
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I'm pretty sure schools do that on purpose so you can pay attention in class.
The same thing happens at my university up here in Illinois, once you step outside the building, full bars again.
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More than anything its the wireless spectrum they use and the fact that you're in a large buildling. Depending on the frequency your provider uses you'll have better luck than some indoors.. generally its all the same. Of course the number of towers is important too. But for example LTE on 700mhz will give verizon LTE speeds 8-10 miles from the tower, 2500mhz on wimax will give sprint 2-3 miles from the tower. Higher frequency means more bandwidth available however.
I'm in engineering at UCF and pretty good reception in HEC and engineering 1 as long as you're not in the inner part of the building and those hallways and labs you're good. Brick walls = signal drop with anything but the lower frequencies and a well covered area. It's pretty strong coverage over here though on this side of campus.
They do have paint and stuff that have metal in it I think because its illegal to have a device that emits a radio signal to jam cellphones, however blocking it with shielding isn't. I'm pretty certain its expensive though. This was years ago that I saw that link on it... don't know if it still exists.
How big of a swath is it being rolled out to do you think? I am in Deltona and nothing has changed as of yet. I assume your talking about the Orlando metro area...
I am using the FRF50 radio by the way.
yeah you will get a increase in speeds due to the extra bandwith, but don't expect to get past the 7.2 mark, hell don't even expect to hit the 7.2 mark due to all the other factors.
not many devices out there to take full advantage of the added speed. new blackberry bold does........not sure what else, even the *cough* iphone 4 doesn't
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How big of a swath is it being rolled out to do you think? I am in Deltona and nothing has changed as of yet. I assume your talking about the Orlando metro area...
I am using the FRF50 radio by the way.
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I was up in deland when I noticed the problems 2 nights ago with the 2g and not going to 3g in an area that I knew had 3g. This was actually during the day. I just tested it again within the last day before leaving and it was working again. Give it a week or two and I'm sure you'll see it. It seems the whole area is being upgraded including you. I'm on the older radio... update-1 radio.
Also please report problems to tmobile as you see them. I'm going to report my ****ty upload speeds. Looking online it seems other areas have better upload than I do. I mean 200kbps max 400 and choppy is just terrible.
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yeah you will get a increase in speeds due to the extra bandwith, but don't expect to get past the 7.2 mark, hell don't even expect to hit the 7.2 mark due to all the other factors.
not many devices out there to take full advantage of the added speed. new blackberry bold does........not sure what else, even the *cough* iphone 4 doesn't
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ATT is only going to 7.1 HSDPA... at least offically announced as of a month ago.. I guess that could change.. They're doing LTE after that.
Re 3g in O-Town.
I have had full 3g bars when I visit my younger brother around Alfaya and UCF.
As far as off-topicness goes I do think XDA is large enough to need carrier forums..
But yes, 3G/2G switching where it previously wasn't, weak 3G, no 3G, 3G not working, are all signs that 3G is being worked on for HSPA+ which includes going from T1's to fiber backhaul
My sig shows what I get with my slow G1. This is in a high traffic area, where before it was .10Mbps during the same time, yes.. that slow and congested.
Also if you're not getting HSUPA you need to make sure your Nexus One has it enabled. Stock roms do have HSUPA enabled, some custom ones don't.
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I was up in deland when I noticed the problems 2 nights ago with the 2g and not going to 3g in an area that I knew had 3g. This was actually during the day. I just tested it again within the last day before leaving and it was working again. Give it a week or two and I'm sure you'll see it. It seems the whole area is being upgraded including you. I'm on the older radio... update-1 radio.
Also please report problems to tmobile as you see them. I'm going to report my ****ty upload speeds. Looking online it seems other areas have better upload than I do. I mean 200kbps max 400 and choppy is just terrible.
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Cool. I was discouraged back in January when they supposedly flipped the switch to HSDPA. As it turned out the backhaul wasn't here to support it. The max down I can remember is right at 1Mbps. Most of the time its around 900Kbps. Uploads usually come in around 350Kbps, with 500 being the highest I've seen. I live in Deltona, but work in Lake Mary and the speeds have been similar in both locations.
I hope that with this rollout everything will be in place.
HSDPA was already active on the network. The most they did was enable HSUPA.
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More than anything its the wireless spectrum they use and the fact that you're in a large buildling. Depending on the frequency your provider uses you'll have better luck than some indoors.. generally its all the same. Of course the number of towers is important too. But for example LTE on 700mhz will give verizon LTE speeds 8-10 miles from the tower, 2500mhz on wimax will give sprint 2-3 miles from the tower. Higher frequency means more bandwidth available however.
I'm in engineering at UCF and pretty good reception in HEC and engineering 1 as long as you're not in the inner part of the building and those hallways and labs you're good. Brick walls = signal drop with anything but the lower frequencies and a well covered area. It's pretty strong coverage over here though on this side of campus.
They do have paint and stuff that have metal in it I think because its illegal to have a device that emits a radio signal to jam cellphones, however blocking it with shielding isn't. I'm pretty certain its expensive though. This was years ago that I saw that link on it... don't know if it still exists.
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You can be right about that, but I think it's mostly older buildings to blame and not the fact that they did it on purpose to block cell phone usage. Classroom Building 1 has horrible reception and around it too. At my job (in Millican Hall) the reception is horrible at my coworkers office (but it could be because the office is near a lot of beams). So structure is sometimes the cause.
I also get almost no reception in my cousin's house. She lives a little bit past Pegasus Pointe.
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Hey - starting last week, I noticed flaky things with T-mobile in Houston area similar to what OP stated. But over the weekend, I realized they were rolling out hsdpa+
Before today, the ul speeds were .5 - .6. Today, I'm getting between 1.5 and 1.8 ul speeds!
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I think you mean HSPA. HSDPA wouldn't help your Uplink.
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Cool. I was discouraged back in January when they supposedly flipped the switch to HSDPA. As it turned out the backhaul wasn't here to support it. The max down I can remember is right at 1Mbps. Most of the time its around 900Kbps. Uploads usually come in around 350Kbps, with 500 being the highest I've seen. I live in Deltona, but work in Lake Mary and the speeds have been similar in both locations.
I hope that with this rollout everything will be in place.
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I use to get approximately the same speed at my apartment.. with a place I work on campus getting 1.8mbps down and .3-.5 mbps up and that was the best speed I've gotten around here. Its alot better now.. i'm sure they're still tweaking it.. I hope they are with the upload speeds.. its choppy and inconsitant.. sometimes just stops. Download did that a couple times too but that's probably related to the terrible upload (downloading needs upload to request the next bits of data to be sent.. it sends "acks" to acknowledge that the packet of data was sent properly). It's just really bad sometimes around UCF where it refuses to send a text, make a phone call, or go online as it just has that stuck up arrow thing. Really annoying.
I called tmobile to complain about the upload speeds and I guess they didn't want to fill a report out. Also HSDPA+ is only in Philly and there is no way I could get it in this area they claim.. gave me a hard time about things. So I asked what the max speeds I should be getting and I said well I'm getting much faster than that.. why is that? I think its cause I called twice recently and they already filled out one for each occasion. I had to really be forceful about them filling one out for me.. with the original person one not filling it out and then transferring me to pda support and then he didn't want to either. Both said they couldn't select nexus one as a phone when reporting a service issue and the second guy just decided to bull**** me off the phone the whole time after finally admitting that. I said bull cause I just had two filled out previously... they just kept discounting what I was saying.
Just wondering if there is anyone inside Sprint that can provide me a little info. I love my phone, and I am happy with Sprint except for one issue...the data speeds in my area.
I live in Indianapolis and even in full signal I get very mediocre speeds. I am wondering if the towers here are just overloaded or what. I'm not sure what information you would have access to but, I'm trying to make an informed choice about whether or not to stay with Sprint past my 30 days.
The tower I am always connected to is SID: 4135. Is this the only tower servicing Indianapolis? Is there another I might try with an updated PRL?
I normally am at around 100-300ish kbps, and very luck to reach 600-700ish downstream (max for me I've ever got). AT&T around here however has steadily been getting 1.2mpbs downstream, so I'm wondering if I'd be better of with a Nexus on AT&T.....
The radio in the Nexus is awfully underpowered. I can barely get a signal anywhere with mine.
The only device I've tested at&t on is the iphone (multiple) and they all got close to 1.2mpbs around here. I was suprised by how little fluctuation I actually saw.
Hi, I too live in Indianapolis and yah the data transfer rate with sprint even with full bars are just around 400-600.
I got an Iphone 3gs thats still active with At&t and its doing around 900-1300 around the same location i was testing sprints data transfers rate.
*note: alot of times my upload speed are faster then my download...
my uploads are ALWAYS faster
so im using a HD2, with the energy rom and tmo just announced that they are rolling out hspa+ in my city (honolulu) so i figured id do a speed test now just to see the difference when they "flip the switches" on 7/21 (my birthday)
so i pull up dsl reports and run the Iphone (bleh)/smartphone speed test choose 3g and........ 126kbps well maybe its a fluke i rerun it and 51kbps WTF!?!?!?!!?!
so i remember mobilespeedtest.com and i try there and..... 134kbps.....starting to get annoyed and when i compare with other tmo subscribers the average is 580~
so my question is is there something i can do to "fix" my speeds? ive got full signal im always showing "H" oh and im using opera 10.0
In Lexington, Ky I get about 400 kbps. In Cincinnati, like 800-900. I just think Tmob's network is really crappy.
hahaha well your crappy is still 4 times faster than me
just odd its SO slow here where hspa+ is going live in a week
before TMO threw the HSPA+ switch here in Tampa, i regularly saw 600-800kbps download speeds. Now with HSPA+ it seems to average about 3mbps-4mbps and Ive seen it reach as high as 5.5mbps.
I just got through with a road trip from Tampa to northern Mississippi where i lost the HSPA+ coverage after leaving Tampa, i saw around a 1mbps in outskirt areas north of Tampa that doesn't have HSPA+ yet, and once we hit the interstate it was GPRS coverage for a majority of the trip with some EDGE coverage here and there. God i forgot how slow GPRS was!
oh i also forgot to mention im using the stock radio rom.....maybe a different radio would improve data speeds?
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oh i also forgot to mention im using the stock radio rom.....maybe a different radio would improve data speeds?
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not sure it would really make a difference, im still using the stock shipping winmo and radio rom on mine.
im getting 831 kbps here in Ewa beach, Hawaii
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im getting 831 kbps here in Ewa beach, Hawaii
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WTF?!?!!?!?! im in town near HCC, care to provide details as far as rom? radio? variances in different places?
My birthday's on the 21st as well, you know what this calls for....SURPRISE BIRTHDAY PARTIES!!!!
soooo apparently its just my apartment that sucks, left the house fro work today and didnt get 50 yards and my speeds jump up to 400~
as i keep walking outdoors my speeds go as high as 1.4 and never went below 400. so when i get to work i figure my speeds will go down as im indoors, wrong i kept getting speeds around 500 tho i didnt see the huge jumps that i did outdoors
We're on the list to have HSPA+ flipped on here in Austin next week, but I'm already starting to see the signs...I can now hit 3-5MB downstream just about anywhere in town.
3mbps-4mbps here in ATL
we are getting an average of about 3mbps-4mbps with HSPA+ in Atlanta, GA
Funny thing when I tether I get 12-15 Mbps. only when I tether tho even if its another phone
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I get strong 4G signal at home and use it for my primary internet so I get a pretty good idea when things change. The past three days i've noticed the speeds consistently went way down, from 5-8 mbit to 1. Speed test app and dslreports both confirm almost exactly 1.0 mbit down AND up, consistently.
This is on either full 4G signal or all but one bar, and it sucks. I get almost the same bandwidth on 3g, around 650 kb down, 800-900 up.
I'm getting a bit irritated, as I know the speeds were much better just a day before. Has anyone else noticed this going on?
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I get strong 4G signal at home and use it for my primary internet so I get a pretty good idea when things change. The past three days i've noticed the speeds consistently went way down, from 5-8 mbit to 1. Speed test app and dslreports both confirm almost exactly 1.0 mbit down AND up, consistently.
This is on either full 4G signal or all but one bar, and it sucks. I get almost the same bandwidth on 3g, around 650 kb down, 800-900 up.
I'm getting a bit irritated, as I know the speeds were much better just a day before. Has anyone else noticed this going on?
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How much bandwidth do you typically? ballpark?
might be tower issues/work network related, I yesterday had a 2.3mb 3g and 8.2mb 4g today
well dam just start a class action lawsuit
I tested again today, 1.01 megabits down and up, for the 4th day in a row. really starting to look like a pattern here. It's far too consistent to be network traffic/signal related, I get the same speed morning, day or night..
In the past i've always gotten between 4 megabits on a slow day and 8 megabits on a good day. I just hope this isn't the future of 4G coverage around here, I got on another 4G network 8 miles away with the same speed results, take from that what you will.
As for the class action lawsuit, the sarcasm really isn't necessary. You'd be annoyed too if you watched your speed drop 800% overnight and stay there.
Thats weak sauce and by no means 4G speeds. Have you contacted Sprint? Your area may either 1) not be live 4G yet so they are still doing tests or whatever the **** it is Sprint does or 2) the area is so saturated they are trying to get more fiber optics in there before uncapping it.
Do you have anyone else that has an Evo you can test to see if they get similar results? At least that way you can take yourself out of the equation.
This is common in a few markets. It is not based on throttling due to large data consumption as some rumors say. It is most likely clearwire having issues with towers, usage, etc. If you want to call and talk to someone about it I recommend calling clear and not sprint. What area are you in anyway?
I checked with Clear and they told me my 4G MAC address is operating on Sprints towers, not theirs, so they couldn't tell me any information about my connection or speed issues.
This does bring up an interesting point though, could I have been on the Clear network prior to this week, and thus the large speed difference is from changing networks?
This timeline coincides with a 4G network outage I had 4-5 days ago, and lasting around 24 hours. It's been slow ever since then. Could that have been the switch from Clear 4G to Sprint 4G?
Well I am not an expert on this at all... but I think the person at Clear may not have been correct. From my knowledge, Sprint has no 4G towers (unless you consider Sprint owning 54% Clear owning their towers as well). So if it were me, I would call back to Clearwire another day and talk to somebody else to see if they give you the same answer. I have spoken to various people, both at Sprint and Clear, and I get a variety of answers. The best consensus I have come to, however, is what I stated above - that Sprint does not own it's own towers. It is for this reason that Sprint has to keep pumping money into Clearwire even though they do not want to.
I have been having issues somewhat similar to yours here in the SLC area, but my speeds have been closer to 100 kb. As of yesterday, though, it seems to be doing better.
I spent 45 minutes on the phone with sprint "advanced technical support" where I was tossed around between various departments which all seemed confused by my use of the word "megabit".
One nice rep insisted on asking me "but is that peak bandwidth?" to which I honestly still have no idea how to answer that question, but they ultimately the speed is what it is. Go figure.
This kind of sucks, and makes me like my Evo considerably less. It feels like a cheap bait and switch tactic, except now its passed 30 days and I'm locked in. I'll be visiting the Sprint store (where I've had excellent customer service) and see what they can do for me.
I noticed something interesting the other day. I was holding my Evo on both sides of the bottom and I couldn't get more than 1-2 mbps then I held it on the top end of the sides and my bandwidth got way better almost up to 6 mbps. I tried this a few times each with the same result. Just earlier I reached over 8 mbps and it was still raising till the test ended which makes me think I may have reached up 10mpbs if it would've continued
That's because of the signal attenuation and where the 4G antenna is located in your phone.
Yes...all phones do it...just the iPhone's was a huge fail.