Bluetooth ActiveSync with TyTN??? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi All,
I've been trying to get my TyTN to sync with my PC with ActiveSync 4.2 (and 4.5 beta) over bluetooth but I can't get it to work. Everytime I try to sync, I get a message saying the service doesn't exist on the device.
Has anyone managed to get it to work???
Advice please...
Dan.

Hey, I did manage to make it work. First of all you need to configure virtual serial port on your desktop/laptop machine, and make Active Sync use this port for synchronization.
Then pair your TyTN with your PC, when you're done pairing devices you should see "Active Sync" service available on your PC. Make TyTN use this service.
Go to ActiveSync (at PDA) and click Menu->Connect with BT... wiat a few moments, allow your PDA use the serial port (if necessary) and you are done

I use BT ActiveSync all the time (AS 4.2) with no issues.
Make sure you've done the following:
- paired both devices
- in AS Connection Settings, enable connections over the BT COM Port from your PC (check in Device Manager if you don't know which one it is).
- in BT Settings on the TyTN, be sure to select the ActiveSync profile on your paired device

I tried to create the virtual (bluetooth) serial port and, although it shows up in Device Manager, it doesn't show up in the list of ports in AS (4.2 or 4.5 beta). Any ideas why?
Thanks,
Dan.

COM 7
In Activesync on the desktop open connection settings and set it up to allow AS to use COM 7. The go to the TYTN and from the AS menu, select connect with Bluetooth. Message will say there is no existing connection and will get you to set one up. When the two devices have paired you should be able to select Activesync as one of the available services. Once that is done, go back to the AS menu on the TYTN, select connect via Bluetooth and bingo you are away. - or so it worked for me.

you should be able to select ActiveSync as one of the available services.
This is my problem, flash. There is no Activesync service on the device to be able to select. Just serial and wireless stereo.
Kevin

kevinnugent said:
you should be able to select ActiveSync as one of the available services.
This is my problem, flash. There is no Activesync service on the device to be able to select. Just serial and wireless stereo.
Kevin
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Same issue here :?

Ditto here.
Dan.

CmptrDan said:
I tried to create the virtual (bluetooth) serial port and, although it shows up in Device Manager, it doesn't show up in the list of ports in AS (4.2 or 4.5 beta). Any ideas why?
Thanks,
Dan.
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It probably won't show up until you go to ActiveSync on the PPC, and choose Menu... Connect via Bluetooth...
It should reopen the Paired Device menu, where you'll find your desktop, and a new option for ActiveSync.
Consider this the final step after the previously described Pairing process.

I understand but, in my case, AS on my PC won't show the new BT serial port in the list of available ports (COM1, COM3, IrDa). Is there something I need to do after I create the BT serial port on my PC so that AS becomes aware of it?
Dan.

In Control Panel... System... Hardware... Device Manager, look under Ports. Do you see the BT COM Port? If not, you probably need to do some work on your desktop's BT setup...

Yes, I do see the BT Serial port in Device Manager but it doesn't show up in Connection Settings in AS.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Dan.

Is the BT Serial Port service "enabled?" If that doesn't help, sorry, I can't think of anything else!

Related

How to set up Active Sync via Bluetooth on WM5??

Can anyone please help me set up Active Sync via Bluetooth!
I've been trying for days, I've tried both my Atom and the Wizard but I am getting nowhere.
It is different to Windows SE 2003 version (Jam).
Many Thanks!!
I'm assuming you already have bluetooth set up on your pc on one of the Comm ports so...
First, set up a partnership between your unit and the pc, i.e. set bluetooth on both to be discoverable by other devices and on your pda switch on bluetooth in comm manager, select "settings" then "bluetooth settings" select the "Devices" tab then select "new partnership" the two should find each other and you'll enter a code on the pda for the handshake which you then need to enter in turn on the pc.
Open activesync on the pc, select file then connections settings check the "allow connections to one of the following" box, select the bluetooth comm port from the pulldown. On your device then open activesync and select "menu" and "connect via bluetooth", from there it should connect.
Sounds easy but I find it works about as well as the Activesync 4.1 on USB, so erratically....
Should also mention that your initial connection cannot be via BT. You have to do it via USB first.
My home computer is an older version of media center. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the problem I'm having, but every time I hook up my phone through usb, my computer resets itself. No errors, no warnings, it just powers down and restarts. The phone works fine on every other computer I've tried (all were xp) and usb on my computer works fine with everything else I've tried it on (keyboard, mouse, hard drive, bt dongle). I've been trying to get it syncing over bt with no luck, I guess because I can't do it through usb first. Any ideas of what I could do?
Make sure when you make the initial partnership youve searched for the phone from the PC, then once you enter the passkey on the phone you can check the Activesync Service box. You cant do this if you find the PC from phone, it doesnt come up. once i did this, it was easy then. make a bluetooth com port on the pc and in activesync allow connections on that port.
Port doesn't appear
I can set up a pairing between my PC and the Wizard, but I never see the com port in the list in Activesync.
Doh! :x
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davebo said:
I can set up a pairing between my PC and the Wizard, but I never see the com port in the list in Activesync.
Doh! :x
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you should the same comm port which shows in the bt configuration as "bt serial port" it's always shown with me as com4 (maybe it's deferent with you), but you have to choose the same port, otherwise it will not connect.
if the comm port does not show in the activesync list, then you should add a new incoming port through the bt configuration, and it will show the port # in the activesync list.
try that, it should work for you.

activesync via bluetooth

Hi all,
I have a toshiba portege r200 and I'm simply not able to set up ActiveSync to work through bluetooth. The darn computer only sees my phone as a modem.
I have no clue how to do this.
I really cant' see why this has to be so hard. Both units are running stupid microsoft software. Whey the can't microsoft think that people migh want to connect their ppc's to their laptops via bt and just make it work easily?
Please, someone help.
thanks
zsizsi said:
Hi all,
I have a toshiba portege r200 and I'm simply not able to set up ActiveSync to work through bluetooth. The darn computer only sees my phone as a modem.
I have no clue how to do this.
I really cant' see why this has to be so hard. Both units are running stupid microsoft software. Whey the can't microsoft think that people migh want to connect their ppc's to their laptops via bt and just make it work easily?
Please, someone help.
thanks
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I agree 100% that this should be easier. But I think ActiveSync is actually a service that the laptop offers, not the phone. So on the phone, go to your BT manager, select your laptop, and then select services. ActiveSync should be one of the choices. After that, you should be able to connect to ActiveSync via BT, but I think you need to initiate the connection from your phone.
Activesync via Bluetooth
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
thank you all for your input.
i tried everything you guys suggested and it's still not working. my comp only offers a serial connection. is that ok? it has this toshiba bluetooth software on it not the original windows kind.
when i choose connect via bluetooth on my ppc's activesync it sais there's no computer that supports bt.
any ideas?
thanks again
I have Toshiba Bluetooth control software as well. I am certain it's the incorrect or incomplete BT COM port setting on your PC. A few findings (on my notebook) to share, hope this helps.
1. I have a "Bluetooth Local COM" applet on Control Panel
2. By opening "Bluetooth Local COM" applet I have a list of PORTS
3. The CORRECT port I HAVE TO use IS
"COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
NOT
"COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client"
4. If you don't find the Server COM port, do "create a Bluetooth virtual COM port for a Server"
5. Of course enable by checking the "Connection Settings" "allows connections to one of the following COM#" (7 in my case)
After this, try the steps I suggested. Initiate BT Activesyn from your PDA phone.
Good luck.
Hi,
Thanks for all your effort.
I did what you said and it's still not working.
When I'm trying to connect from my phone via bluetooth it satill sais it cannot find existing blueooth partnership with a pc that supports activesync.
what am i doing wrong?
Thanks
IceGoal said:
I have Toshiba Bluetooth control software as well. I am certain it's the incorrect or incomplete BT COM port setting on your PC. A few findings (on my notebook) to share, hope this helps.
1. I have a "Bluetooth Local COM" applet on Control Panel
2. By opening "Bluetooth Local COM" applet I have a list of PORTS
3. The CORRECT port I HAVE TO use IS
"COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
NOT
"COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client"
4. If you don't find the Server COM port, do "create a Bluetooth virtual COM port for a Server"
5. Of course enable by checking the "Connection Settings" "allows connections to one of the following COM#" (7 in my case)
After this, try the steps I suggested. Initiate BT Activesyn from your PDA phone.
Good luck.
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Phat!! This works for me with my Acer laptop and Bluetooth connection, thanks man!
Sweet, took a few tries, but works like a charm.
Thanks
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I just wanted to bump this to say thanks for posting the bit about using the LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)] port instead of the client port. Trying to get AS working using the Toshiba stack was driving me around the bend!
My pleasure
I've learned a lot from this wonderful board from a lot of wonderful people. Glad to be part of it!
You're the MAN
Thanks. This also worked for my Cingualr 8125. Many hours wasted. Glad I found this post. Thanks for your help.
this worked on my cingular 8125 as well, zsizsi i think you may have to delete all partnerships that were previously created with handheld on your pc and handheld. if that dosent work then in bluetooth settings go to options and under general tab check box "PAN networking service" that is just something i did while creating partnership not sure if it helps
The only thing that worked for me after 4 days of messing with it was to do a cold boot.
The first thing I did after the boot was to follow the instructions. Voila! ActiveSync magically appeared.
Hi all,
I have exactly the same problem with my qtek9100 and my IBM T43 Laptop.
I tried many times but....still not working!
As zsizsi if I try to make a relationship via PDA, it asks me the pairing key, and I'm blocked.
If I go through PC, I can do pairing, in the services I flag activesync, I configure the same com port that I have on AS (com 8) and when I0'm in the bluetooth wizard on the PDA, related to the PC I can only see 3 services:
hands free
remote connection
serial port
no activesync service to flag.
If I try then with the PDA Menu>BT connection it aswer that there is no relationship with PC supporting AS!!!!What the hell!
The only thing I see is that in my BT config in the local server the BT wizard creates a serial port named My activesync......
I have tried also your suggestion but.....
tinman44 said:
this worked on my cingular 8125 as well, zsizsi i think you may have to delete all partnerships that were previously created with handheld on your pc and handheld. if that dosent work then in bluetooth settings go to options and under general tab check box "PAN networking service" that is just something i did while creating partnership not sure if it helps
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thank you soo much for that info...enabling the "PAN networking service" finally allowed me to connect with my toshiba qosmio laptop
If the devices are paired... You have to select a service for the pda BT connection
Only when you manage to select the servive Activesync (a comport has to be valid assingd) then a connectin can be astablished.
In active sync you must assign a com port.
See the manual in activesync BT
Yes, I can guess it.
The rpoblem is that the devices are paired, the activesync service is flagged in the PC (while I do the automatic pairing devices withn a wizard).
But I can't still see the service in my PDA.
I can only find:
Hands free
Serial port
remote connection
No activesync service on the PDA relation wizard...
Any other suggestion?
Another issue.
When I look in my BT services, I can't find an activesync service, but only an icon (com plug) called My activesync.
Look at the properties of this icon I can only flag automatic/manual and Secure/unsecure connection, and there is the window manu to select the com port (that is the same selected in Activesync settings).
Is that correct, or I should find a specific activesync icon (like PIM syncronizing ....)
Blinks....
SKID
Re: Activesync via Bluetooth
IceGoal said:
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
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FOLLOW THIS STEP BY STEP.... I HAVE DONE IT 3 TIMES FOR MYSELF AND FRIENDS ON DIFFERENT LAPTOPS AND IT WORKED FIRST TIME - EVERYTIME!!!
PS. Delete all existing pairings, relationships, COM ports etc, START FRESH!
THANKS MAN!
Re: Activesync via Bluetooth
IceGoal said:
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
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Thanks IceGoal, on my HP laptop it works superb.
But I have to say that those people that work on our mobile network provider company are uncapale, because they said that this is impossible to connect.
Thanks again folks.

Big problem with Activesync by Bluetooth on JasJar

Hi,
I have already red more forum on this question.
I have e problem trying to connect to ActiveSync by bluetooth .
When I pair my JasJar to PC not appear the service "ActiveSync", but "Serial Port".
Therefore ActiveSync, on JJ, can't connect to my PC.
I have already configure ActiveSync on PC to connect on right Com port.
Please help me, i have lost some night to try it.
had same problem,you have to get rid of all phantom bt ports there is some stuff on windows support
Thanks for reply,
How can I remove phantom bt port?
Pozzame said:
Hi,
I have already red more forum on this question.
I have e problem trying to connect to ActiveSync by bluetooth .
When I pair my JasJar to PC not appear the service "ActiveSync", but "Serial Port".
Therefore ActiveSync, on JJ, can't connect to my PC.
I have already configure ActiveSync on PC to connect on right Com port.
Please help me, i have lost some night to try it.
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Please, can someone help me?
On my computer and Universal, I find it easy to setup BT Active Sync if I activate the setup on the Universal first using active sync app. There is an option within the active sync app to sync via BT. The computer will then recognize the device and will ask you if you want to pair it. On the other hand, if I try to pair them beginning with my computer to search for the Universal, after pairing and ticking all necessary boxes, it still won't sync.
After pairing and ticking all necessary boxes. Make sure you reset BOTH your computer and the Universal.
The problem is that when I pair my Universal to PC, not appear the service "ActiveSync", but "Serial Port".
I've already tried to delete everything and reinstall bluetooth pen, with his drivers and with windows drivers, and ActiveSync too.
I've also deleted all pairs and all port on Universal.
But I've not obtained any result.
I don't know what to make.
Can someone help me?
Please.
Nobody has had my same problem?
Any idea, please?
I had the same problem until I upgraded from Toshiba BT stack to Wildcomm BT Drivers stack (4.0.1.700).
Things I have learned:
- If UNI is connected via USB then AS service will not show in device pairing on PPC.
- You need to create an incoming COM port on PC and set AS to allow connections to this port.
raad said:
I had the same problem until I upgraded from Toshiba BT stack to Wildcomm BT Drivers stack (4.0.1.700).
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I haven't change the bletooth stack.
Until some week it makes worked regularly, but an evening, I was configuring my Laptop to use the JJ like BT modem, when the AciveSync service has begun not to recognize more like such, but like “Serial Port”.
I've already tried to delete everything and reinstall bluetooth pen, with his drivers and with windows drivers, and ActiveSync too.
I've also deleted all pairs and all port on Universal.
But I've not obtained any result.
Yesterday, I have tried the synchronization with an other PC with a fresh installation of windows, but the result has been the same one.
Therefore the problem is on JJ, even in the registry.
I don't know what to make.
Please, can someone help me?
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Please help me...
Don't know if this will help and I claim no credit because this solution was written in some other threads. For the universal with a Toshiba bluetooth on your PC:
first, pair your Universal with your PC, you get "serial"
On your PC, create the following "bluetooth local com" (Control panel)
- COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
- COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client
In your activesync, allow connection to COM7
Now comes the fun part. On your universal, go to your bluetooth settings, devices, edit your device and press "Refresh", possibly more than once. Serial Port will change to ActiveSync.
It worked for me.
Eric
Also got to the control panel on PC and delete the bluetooth modem that was created. When u add a new incoming port on PC make sure it's not COM8 because that is used by JJ for USB modem connections.
same on treo 750v
I have the exact same problem on my Palm treo 750v. Searched the whole internet for a solution and found some other people with the same problem but no resolution. The only recommendation that seems to work is to do a hard-reset.
The problem started on my device after I played around with the Soft GPS port. It seems that it screwed up some COM port references for good...
I had the same problem on my notebook with Toshiba's BT drivers. I uninstalled them and connected an external USB BT which fired up the MS default BT stack.
After I completed the pairing using Bluetooth Devices (in control panel) and clicking Add in the devices tab, I used the COM Ports tab and added an incoming port and copied the number of this com port in the AS connection settings.
Now, I initiated the AS over BT from the Jasjar and it said something like "it cannot find the service or whatever and would you like to create one". I clicked yes, when it took me to the list of paired devices. From here I did what leblan has also noted "your device and press "Refresh", possibly more than once. Serial Port will change to ActiveSync." I too found that the serial port changed to ActiveSync. The key, IMHO is to hit that "Refresh" button; i.e. once your device and PC are paired and connected, going to the BT devices and editing (press & hold)the device name (the notebook or PC in this case) you will get the services which will initially say serial port, but when you click refresh, it will change to AS.
jj activesync via microsoft bluetooth stack
both from PC and JJ :
delete eventually existing pair between them;
from PC:
if there isn't create a local service COM port. I created COM8 not protected, automatic start;
from PC activesync:
remove flag both for USB and other connections;
from JJ activesync:
try to connect, it ask for pairing, reply yes;
In "mode" flag on turn on bluetooth & make this device visible;
search for new devices, when PC has discovered complete the pairing;
after paired, you can see a serial port and other PC's services;
stay there;
from PC activesync:
now turn flag on other connections setting COM8;
from JJ:
refresh and You can see that serial port begin activesync;
tip OK for close all bluetooth setting windows, You are redirected in activesync.
enjoy start to sync
15hours of crying and knocking the device. i've successfully fixed it...
i did this (credits to google)..
Delete all paired bluetooth devices from PC and from MOBILE.
CAUTION - USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK <--- I used a registry editor for the mobile phone (google for regeditSTG2) and opened the Branch "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\ActiveSync" There might be a Key with a hex-String like this "0016cxxxxxx" --> delete it. Change the View to display the values in this Registry Branch, then delete the "LastConnected" Value and set the "Initialized" value to "0"
Turn bluetooth OFF>ON
Pair from PC
Confirm on DEVICE (dont need to select anything just enter code and press OK)
Go START->Active Sync->Connect via Bluetooth
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Voilla worked for me..
hope this helps someone else

How to Activesync using bluetooth?

Hi everybody,
I'm trying to sync my trinity with a laptop using bluetooth, but it seems imposible 'til now. Has anybody been able to?
It seems there's not pim service on the p3600, also creating a com connection doesn't work...
Any idea or howto???
Thanks in advance.
You'll need to set up your ActiveSync (AS) in your PC to point to the port which your Bluet is using. After that, use your phone to 'discover' your PC and you should have AS service for your Bt in PC.
You mean...
In Bluetooth configuration on the pc I have COM9 assigned to bluetooth Serial Port and COM8 for ActiveSync. So you say I have to set as incoming serial port COM8 in P3600??
Configure the AS to use COM9 (in your case).
Thanks
But still no luck, it seems to be connected but activesync says there's no device in that port, I'm afraid it's a compatibility problem between my laptop bluetooth drivers and P3600 ones.
Anyway thanks for your help, I'll keep on trying...
Probably you can init a sync from PC, but the one I tried is to initialize a sync from my PPC. Once you have AS to use serial of your BT, then while discovering services (or pairing) from you PPC, your PPC should show that there is AS service on the PC. Start your AS on your PPC and sync.
I had a bit of trouble but I've sorted it out now, this is what I did:
1. Uninstall any bundled software and drivers that came with your dongle.
2. Stick the dongle in, and let Windows automatically install the drivers.
3. Make your PC "discoverable" through the bluetooth control panel.
4. Create an incoming port, and take note of the port number
5. In ActiveSync on your PC, go to connection settings and enable a connection through that port.
5. On your phone, go to ActiveSync and select "connect via bluetooth"
6. It will say that you need to establish a partnership or something, press ok, and find your PC, when the services dialogue comes up, select "ActiveSync".
7. Try pressing connect via bluetooth again and it should work!
El_Mariachi said:
I had a bit of trouble but I've sorted it out now, this is what I did:
1. Uninstall any bundled software and drivers that came with your dongle.
2. Stick the dongle in, and let Windows automatically install the drivers.
3. Make your PC "discoverable" through the bluetooth control panel.
4. Create an incoming port, and take note of the port number
5. In ActiveSync on your PC, go to connection settings and enable a connection through that port.
5. On your phone, go to ActiveSync and select "connect via bluetooth"
6. It will say that you need to establish a partnership or something, press ok, and find your PC, when the services dialogue comes up, select "ActiveSync".
7. Try pressing connect via bluetooth again and it should work!
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Can anyone please tell me why i dont see any services on my P3600 after i am connected to the PC? I used to do this with my Prophet (same laptop) without any problems but the P3600 is not able to see any services.
i use this settings
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/activesync+via+bluetooth
it's work for me.
MrTW said:
Can anyone please tell me why i dont see any services on my P3600 after i am connected to the PC? I used to do this with my Prophet (same laptop) without any problems but the P3600 is not able to see any services.
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Same here... Active sync does start and tries to connect when pairing... but it times out and the activesync service is not seen as an option on the ppc.
Julioski said:
Hi everybody,
I'm trying to sync my trinity with a laptop using bluetooth, but it seems imposible 'til now. Has anybody been able to?
It seems there's not pim service on the p3600, also creating a com connection doesn't work...
Any idea or howto???
Thanks in advance.
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Hi
What kind of software are you using microsoft widcomm or bluesoleil.

The Definative Guide to BT Services

After a lot of strugle with using Wireless Headsets, Serial Ports, Activesync over BT and Sideshow... i managed to have them all work.. on VISTA and XP.
So i decided to write a fully detailed tutorial for whoever needs it.
1. Know your Stack.
if your stack is the toshiba one, when you right click on the bt trayicon you should see OPTIONS..
if your stack is the microsoft one, ... well.. you will not see OPTIONS
2. before starting to deal with services i suggest you download one of the stacks below, according to your demand, and install them. also install Windows Mobile Device Center (from now on WMDC).
This is WMDC6.1 x86...
http://rapidshare.com/files/120340376/MobileDeviceCenter6.1-x86.exe.html
These are both the LATEST versions of both stacks: (up until the day of posting this message of course )
TOSHIBA STACK:
http://rapidshare.com/files/120186967/TOSHIBA_BTSTACK.zip
MS STACK:
http://rapidshare.com/files/120187911/MS_BTSTACK.exe
i strongly suggest you keep both files on your comp as a cover for any services one might provide while the other doesn't.
to save you the trouble. (after a correction from Jadel):
MS Stack works with both Activesync AND sideshow.
TOSHIBA Stack is problematic although more userfriendly AND provides some different options which might come handy. i had to go thru a ****load of trouble to sync it with Vista... and syncing it with XP isn't a teaparty either.
3. after finding out which one you have we can begin.
AS - ActiveSync.
this will probably be the most problematic service to have working since a lot of times it DOESNT APPEAR AS A SERVICE. when you try to sync with the comp it tells you you have to pair it.. even tho the device is already paired with the comp.
XP might be more flexible with this but the solution is for both XP and VISTA.
To Async using TOSHIBA Stack do the following:
a. open Control Panel and open the BT Ports editor..
b. add a port and choose it as a Server.. (usually it rounds up to ports 6 or 7 but you may have to try others..)
c. go to WMDC/Connection Settings and mark "Allow connections to one of the following.." and choose the port you created.
d. on your device go to Bluetooth Settings and add a new device... put the desired passkey... and you should see a list of the services the computer provides the PDA.
e. now this is a bit tricky to deal with. sometimes ActiveSync might not appear there. if it doesn't, go to COM Ports (in bluetooth settings on your device) and add the COM port you added on your comp..
go back to Devices and choose your comp and click Refresh. if ActiveSync appears there, mark it. if it doesn't, you should delete your comp from your device and this time add the port BEFORE finding your comp. it that doesn't work, you should follow the links i will provide soon.
f. on your device, open ActiveSync and under Menu choose Connect Via Bluetooth.
To Async using MICROSOFT Stack do the following:
a. open Control Panel and open Bluetooth Devices
b. click Add and add your device. go to Options and mark "Allow Bluetooth devices to find this computer" and "Allow Bluetooth Devices to connec to this computer". you can also mark other options as desired.
c. go to COM ports and add an INCOMING port. it will choose a port for you automatically.
d. go to WMDC/Connection Settings and mark "Allow connections to one of the following.." and choose the port you created.
e. go back to Devices and choose your PDA. choose Properties and go to Services. there you should see all services your PDA provides. one of them should be Active Sync Bluetooth Service. mark it and click OK. your comp and PDA should connect and disconnect a few secs later.
f. on your device, open ActiveSync and under Menu choose Connect Via Bluetooth.
(if these methods don't work you should follow the reference links in the below post).
SP - Serial Port.
some services demand a serial port. for instance, if you're using the Desktop iGO8 and would like to connect a BT GPS receiver to your comp the serial port service must be enabled. i found TOSHIBA's stack to be much more flexible concerning port usage. in Control panel you have a BT Ports icon somewhere.. if you double click on it.. it will let you play with the ports and change them to help you adjust various devices as well as use the ports as Clients or as Servers. this is important for ActiveSync as well (depending on the device).
An example:
Ipaq's Desktop iGO8 supports a Bluetooth GPS receiver. to use it, you have to define a COM port (just as we did for activesync, depending on your stack)...
you will have to define a port for the receiver and make sure the Serial Port service is marked or the program will not identify the PDA. some programs might NOT need this service at all.
(of course, this is only for people who want to use their PDA's GPS receiver. people who have a seperate GPS receiver might get the port number automatically when pairing it with the computer or have to find the correct port themselves (in older receivers).
also, to use the Networking feature you have to use the Serial port service. (i will post links for this as well).
WH - I would prefer leaving this for later as i play with it a little further.
SS - Sideshow. (Vista Users)
i tried using sideshow on 3 different devices. Wizard, Polaris and Titan.
all 3 came out with nothing when i used the TOSHIBA stack. the devices didn't discover the SideShow service even tho it was installed on my comp and my device was paired with the comp.
now if you're using the MICROSOFT stack.. it's a whole different area.
Alright. so a little batch of detailed insturctions about using this:
(during the process make sure your device is DISCOVERABLE)
IMPORTANT! you should make sure the Sideshow software is active on your device while doing this. i tried syncing the service once with it on and once off and it sorta confused me. so we'll just agree on having it ON.
To use sideshow using TOSHIBA Stack do the following:
a. on your device, go to Bluetooth Settings
b. add your device.
c. look for the Sideshow service in the list. if it's there, Mark it, (on your comp) go to control panel, go to sideshow, and you should be able to mark V on the gadgets you'd like to use.
d. if it's not there, you should add a port on both your device and your computer. the ports should match.
e. go back to devices and refresh the Services list.
f. to my knowledge, if it doesn't work up to this point, give it up
To use sideshow using MICROSOFT Stack do the following:
a. open Control Panel and open Bluetooth Devices
b. click Add and add your device. go to Options and mark "Allow Bluetooth devices to find this computer" and "Allow Bluetooth Devices to connect to this computer". you can also mark other options as desired.
c. go to COM ports and add an INCOMING port. it will choose a port for you automatically.
d. go to Devices and choose your PDA. choose Properties and go to Services. there you should see all services your PDA provides. one of them should be Windows Sideshow. mark it and click OK. your comp and PDA should connect and disconnect a few secs later.
e. go to control panel, go to sideshow, and you should be able to mark V on the gadgets you'd like to use.
after syncing the service and choosing the gadgets you'd like to use from Control Panel/Windows Sideshow you can go back to your device and go back to the sideshow software and click Connect....... ................. ........
TP - Technical Port (this concerns only people who use ASUS's GXP Factory PDA so if you're not, just ignore this).
for the GXP to control Wireless devices such as ELTO's waterpipe controller and Applied Materials' connectors you HAVE to have a Technical port enabled as a service. other than Serial port this is the only service the GXP provides, so you won't have much trouble enabling it as it's part of the software.. it will always appear. MAKE SURE you DO NOT create another bluetooth port as it will use it instead of the default one and you will not be able to control ANY of the wireless devices around you.
i will update this post further on with detailed instructions for the use of every service and some howtos.
Hope it helps.
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hi!
please check your links, they don´t work!
regards
chuckbert
sorry.. i will fix it when i get home.
links are now working and there is a more detailed explenation of.. it all.
if anyone has any additions, good links to other types of instructions or other types of bluetooth stacks.. please post them so i can add them to the guide.
thanks
hi,
first, thanks for this guide. i hope its helping others, but me wasnt successfull : (
here whats up:
dualcore notebook with toshiba bt stack, running Win XP (sp2+ new sp3)
htc polaris, custom rom
what ive done:
a. open Control Panel and open the BT Ports editor..
b. add a port and choose it as a Server.. (usually it rounds up to ports 6 or 7 but you may have to try others..)
heres my configuration:
Port Description Owner
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COM1 Toshiba BT Port (COM1) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(Toshiba LocalCOM1)]
COM2 Toshiba BT Port (COM1) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(Toshiba LocalCOM2)]
COM3 Motorola SM Speakerphone System
COM4 System
COM5 System
COM6 System
COM7 System
COM8 System
COM9 System
COM10 Toshiba BT Port (COM10) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(Toshiba LocalCOM10)]
c. go to WMDC/Connection Settings and mark "Allow connections to one of the following.." and choose the port you created.
-in my case COM1 and COM2
d. on your device go to Bluetooth Settings and add a new device... put the desired passkey... and you should see a list of the services the computer provides the PDA.
-yes, Bluetooth headset and SerialPort
e. now this is a bit tricky to deal with. sometimes ActiveSync might not appear there. if it doesn't, go to COM Ports (in bluetooth settings on your device) and add the COM port you added on your comp..
- not appearing, added the COM1 in the device, same as on notebook
go back to Devices and choose your comp and click Refresh. if ActiveSync appears there, mark it. if it doesn't, you should delete your comp from your device and this time add the port BEFORE finding your comp. it that doesn't work, you should follow the links i will provide soon.
- still not appearing, deleted my Notebook on the devices list. I tried to add the port before it found my notebook, but thats impossible because i cannot change the view when its searching bluetooth devices.
f. on your device, open ActiveSync and under Menu choose Connect Via Bluetooth.
- a dream
im fking sad its not working, i tried other tutorials, but alsways same result, been reinstalling AS, the BT stack.. the only thing i made no hardreset yet on my polaris.
to analyse:
choosing COM4 and COM7 on my device, it runs an error: The COM Port couldnt be done. Check the Settings und retry.
On my notebook i cannot delete COM4 till COM9, because they are used by the system.
I can only choose from COM0 (Zero) to COM9 in my device.
I have no problem to send/receive files from my notebook to pda and reverse.
if you have any suggestions to go further, really appreciated.
would be nice if you hit me a pm or start a convo on msn : )
thanbks so far
manaaa
**edit**
i attached the ports configuration after a fresh toschiba BT stack install
(POST EDITED)
Hi Nir36, awesome post! I had planned on doing this myself at some stage, but your details are far more inclusive than mine would have been. Good work!!
Here are a few additions:
In relation to Activesync and Bluetooth, the only way I personally (using a HTC Himalaya, WM6.1) was able to connect was by partnering the two devices from the mobile device side, not the PC side. I could only do this using Windows Xp’s built in Bluetooth drivers, and my device’s built-in Bluetooth drivers. Other drivers did not work for me. I suspect that whatever drivers you use on your mobile device should be used by the PC as well.
The information provided below is from me, the Windows Forum and Treo Central Forum, cobbled together and edited to suit this site. So cheers to those folk over there. It is for users of Windows XP.
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1. First of all, open up “Control Panel” and open “Bluetooth Devices”.
2. Under the “Options” tab, tick the boxes in “Allow Bluetooth devices to connect to this computer” and “Alert me when a new Bluetooth device want to” and “Show the Bluetooth icon in the notification area” and “Turn discovery on”.
3. Under the “COM Ports” tab, click add. Add an incoming COM port below 9 (it appears numbers higher than that are not recognized). Click the “OK” button.
Now for the next part:
1. Ensure Bluetooth is turned on, on both your PC and Mobile Device, and each is in Discover Mode.
2. In Bluetooth setup on your Mobile Device, DELETE any existing partnership with the PC.
3. In Activesync on the Mobile Device, choose Connect via Bluetooth. Activesync will say it cannot, but will ask if you want to set up a new partnership. Choose yes.
4. When the Mobile Device Bluetooth application comes up and presents the Devices tab, click “Add New Device”. Go through the normal pairing process when it finds your PC (entering passcode on Mobile Device, accepting connection on PC, entering passcode on PC, etc.). It will probably not show "Activesync" as a service on the PC yet (you may have to tap on the “Advanced” tab to see the list of services provided from your PC).
NOTE: Sometimes the Bluetooth icon on your PC will not let you know that a Mobile Device is trying to connect until you double-click on it.
5. In ActiveSync on the PC, go to Connection Settings. Verify that it allowing connections via com ports (combo box) is checked and you can see a list of available com ports.
6. Here's the trial and error part. Start by selecting the same COM port in the list as what you selected under Bluetooth Devices on the PC, clicking OK. If Activesysnc gives you an error, start Step 5 over again and choose the next COM port on the list (change the one under Bluetooth Devices in Control Panel first) until you get one that does not produce an ActiveSync error (cannot connect to COM port). NOTE: DO NOT select "Bluetooth" from the drop down list. Don't forget to click OK each time and to close the Connection Settings dialog box.
7. On the Mobile Device click refresh. If "Activesync" shows up as a service from the PC, check it and you should be OK to select "Connect via Bluetooth" on the Mobile Device and start synchronizing. If "Activesync" still does not show up as a service, go back to Step 5 and just keep moving on to the next COM port in the list. One of them should work eventually.
NOTE: Others suggest that you need to make a connection with the PC first using the cradle and Activesync. Using the above steps, this was not the case in my case. I connected straight away with Bluetooth without ever first having to connect my device using the cradle and USB.
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Connecting external Bluetooth GPS receivers to your Mobile Device for use with navigation software ie TomTom, Garmin etc
(by Jadel)
1. Switch your Bluetooth GPS device on (this example is with an early model Navman external GPS device).
2. Pair your Bluetooth GPS device with your Mobile Device first using your device Bluetooth manager (Go to the devices tab and “Add new device”, click on the name corresponding to your external Bluetooth device, entering passcode on Mobile Device which should come with GPS device’s documentation).
3. After this, make sure to choose the “Advanced” option which will give you the choice of choosing a serial connection. Select it and click “save”.
4. Go to the tab down the bottom that says “COM Ports” a new “Outgoing Connection” and then which port you want to use. I always choose COM5 as this seems to work fastest, most stable etc (on a HTC Himalaya and HTC Hermes).
5. Then, leave your Mobile Devices bluetooth on and in discoverable mode.
6. After this, load up your software (TomTom/Garmin etc).
7. The correct COM port should then appear in the list of possible COM ports for you to choose from in your software’s External Bluetooth GPS device section (the correct COM port should be the same as the outgoing COM port ie COM5). After that, all should be well with the world.
Note: Sometimes your mobile device may reset when it is scanning the COM port in your navigation software if the incorrect COM port is chosen.
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Go online with Activesync: Skype over Bluetooth Activesync
(by Jadel)
If you managed to get your device to sync over Bluetooth using the above guide, then most of this should work automatically. If you connect correctly, you should be able to use most internet related applications on your device such as MSN Messenger, Windows Live, Pocket Internet Explorer (PIE) and Opera. Email should also work.
But you can also use Skype! Even though it says you need WiFi or 3G, it can also work over Bluetooth ActiveSync.
This means that if someone else is using the computer (family members etc) you can still call people and send messages to them over Skype.
1. Install the SkypeforPocketPC.cab file on your phone.
2. After it installs, log in, and make sure it remembers your login details, by ticking the “remember me” box.
3. When it asks how you plan to connect, make sure to chose “Wifi and 3G”.
4. If you choose just Wifi, it won’t work.
That should be all you need! You may need to restart your device or re-establish the Activesync to get it to work. The first time I tried this, I was able to do the echo test and pass, but my messages did not send. The second time I connected, everything worked.
And having tested Skype over Bluetooth Activesync many times, I can tell you that the sound was perfect/crystal clear. I think the minimum you need for Skype is about 54Mbps, whereas Bluetooth 1.1 (older Bluetooth) transfers at about 750Mbps if I am not mistaken.
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Cheers Nir36.
PS Good work!
Jadel, this is great. i don't want to add it to my post.. but to leave it like this.. it's much better having a whole thread concucted by different people with different solutions than having one guide.
i would be happy if other people added more posts like this one.. so we can collect a whole thread for others to look at when they need to solve their bluetooth issues.
i will be developing it more.. adding links and such.. but it'll take time as i'm in the middle of my final exams.
and in reference to manaa's problem.
from what i've read around in different websites, no one was able to have the ActiveSync service show when using ports other than 5-9 (only when using TOSHIBA's Stack. when using MS Stack you can use any port to my knowledge). if anyone made it thru other ports, please post the solution here. i suggest you try and check if you can switch some system ports to other ports and then move one of your BT server ports to 5,6,7,8 or 9... and then try again.
hope it works.
i hope that with time we will be able to build up a pack of solutions for anyone who wishes to use AS with TOSHIBA's stack.. so that we won't have to go thru all that trial and error **** everytime.
Sounds like a good idea Nir36. Have edited my post down slightly so as to leave it as is. Will try add to it when I get the chance as well.
PS did you have a look at this section of your post below?
Under your description for “Async using Microsoft bluetooth stack”, part D mentions Windows Mobile Device Centre. Are you sure this shouldn’t be Activesync? Just checking.
Cheers!
well.. XP AND Vista can both work with WMDC. i'm assuming that people would upgade from ActiveSync to WMDC. the MICROSOFT Stack has nothing to do with either WMDC or ActiveSync... they are both PC clients, not drivers.
to be clear. WMDC and ActiveSync can both work with MICROSOFT Stack and TOSHIBA Stack.
WMDC6.1 x86... Got that in Vista64 flavour?
What version Toshiba stack is this?
Also, why do you even need the MS stack? I have everything from activesync to A2DP, to PAN (basically, you name it and it works) functioning with just the toshiba stack.
I'm running XP.
sonus said:
What version Toshiba stack is this?
Also, why do you even need the MS stack? I have everything from activesync to A2DP, to PAN (basically, you name it and it works) functioning with just the toshiba stack.
I'm running XP.
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well, it depends on your device rather than on your stack (sometimes).
i have a Polaris and when i try to get an ActiveSync service using the toshiba stack i .. well.. can't. so i have to use MS stack which works wonderfully.
it's less GUI'd but it's working.
desolateone said:
WMDC6.1 x86... Got that in Vista64 flavour?
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i'll add a link to x64 soon.
nir36 said:
well, it depends on your device rather than on your stack (sometimes).
i have a Polaris and when i try to get an ActiveSync service using the toshiba stack i .. well.. can't. so i have to use MS stack which works wonderfully.
it's less GUI'd but it's working.
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That's odd, I also have a Polaris...ActiveSync works without any issues on my Toshiba stack. What version of the Toshiba stack did you post?

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