Xanadux Development - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hey all,
First off, sorry to noob post in a development forum, but I'm lost as to where else I can find info!
I'm really interested in Xanadux, and I've looked around the wiki and forums and can't find any consistent info on how to get started with the port. I've tried loading a kernel thats on the wiki on my Hima, but haret just crashed - I think I was using a crappy initrd.
I'd be glad if anyone could let me know where the CVS repos are for the Hima development (I read somewhere that it's over at handhelds.org, but couldn't find it) and what I need to build.
I've been using Linux for years (mostly server and desktop - this is my first delve into embedded linux), and was quite involved in Gentoo's early development - so I'm more than willing to dive in and get my hands dirty to help turn Xanadux into a viable WinCE replacement!
Thanks for your help,
zing

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pls ans my question urgently

pls wen i went to the ftp site to download the rsu it didnt open,i always get cannot find server reply,y?how do i get the ftp client? it also asked me for a password b4 i can log in,how do i get that done and finally,i saw xda ver 1.2 and decided to use that one cos it asked for active sync directly.pls can it run on a rom 4.01.16 rom?and hope it wont destrroy my device.pls i need anwsers to this lumpistf,pls.
yeh what now? any chance you could ask again a bit more legibly?
In answer to one of your problems (that i could see) user/password for FTP is xda/xda
The FTP site for the wallaby can be found HERE. If you can't getto that, make sure that Port 21 isn't blocked on your router/firewall.
Without meaning to be rude, Malaikah, it seems you're new to this site, the inner workings of your Wallaby and Internet etiquette or 'netiquette'. I strongly suggest that you browse around the forums and read up on past posts, using the search feature if you need to (it seems you might need to as you're asking questions that have been addressed before here). Many people see this forum as a way to help others to help themselves rather than spoon-feeding people instructions (that's what instruction manuals and Google are for!). People who participate in this great online community do so in their own free time and do so without payment so they don't have to help anyone. If you were sitting in a bar and a complete stranger came in and said 'You have to help me fix this now, for free', dumps the device on your table then leaves without saying anything else, I don't think you'd be too pleased, I know I wouldn't!
Check out the top thread here regarding some basic guidelines users of this forum should follow. Last but not least, have a look through the Wiki - there is a wealth of information about the Wallaby there, ROM versions and so on. I'd suggest that you don't even THINK about touching the radio stack on your Wallaby if you're at all unsure about what you're doing.
Sorry to rant on but I'm sure with a little digging, Googling and effort on your part, you'll work out solutions to your Wallaby issues. Self-help is the buzz-word of the day!
Regards,
Neil.

Very Difficult to find useful information

First off- this is a great site with valuable information for all matters HTC. It has been a resource that has helped me get more use out of my HTC products.
I have a Universal, Dash, Athena, Startrec, and Wing.
Lately I have been trying to get some useful information for the Athena and no amount of searching, reading Wiki ing can answer my questions or even help me get a baseline understanding of things with the Athena.
It is quite frustrating- I would want to straightforwardly ask a question in a new thread, but it seems that the more experienced people on this board jump to the conclusion that a question is the result of not searching or not reading. I can tell you that I spend hours a day searching for things on this site and often times find irrelevant search results or endless threads with needle in haystack like answers that only partially answer questions. Is there anyway to organize this space better so that questions can be answered more efficiently?
The wiki is not useful for the most part- it has less info than some threads- links are old or irrelevant and searching is plain useless.
Great site everybody but darn frustrating for finding info- Any one else having this issue?
RT
Probably not...
What info are you after and I'm sure someone will be able to help - then maybe you can update the Wiki yourself if you think it needs it!
I want upgrade the radio, but I am not sure if the phone needs to be CID, its the HTC model w/o front facing camera. If it does need to be CID, not sure how to do it properly. There are tons of posts of people who have bricked their units using methods that would use to CID. So I am sorta scared to try anything- every method I see suggested is followed by another thread of someone for whom the process went badly. Also I cannot get a reliable place to download a radio and which radio is the best or useable with a later rom? I read that some radios don't work with some roms and there threads of people tried to upgrade ROMs but found that they had radio problems, WIFI, bluetooth and GSM issues. Is there a better radio to use than others? Is their a reliable place to get the requisite radio version?
What ROM version makes sense. The current ROM on my Athena is awful- the worst ever. I downloaded AP4 and right before I geared up to use it, I read a ton of posts which say is does not work with WIFI- WTF? Is there a version of it that does work with WIFI? Is there another version of the ROM that is stable and downloadable? Also I have seen mentions of various types of ROMs, but no real explanation of what these ROMs are and where to get them.
Mind you I have done tons of stuff with my universal, dash, wing, MDA and have had an easier time finding info, links and resources.
Anyway- I just cannot seem to find coherent info here. If I do find coherent info, I would more than happy to help out with the WIKI or some sort of wiki that clearly outlines key info such as
1. Here are the various Rom options and what they do
2. Here are the various Radio options and what they do
3. Here is a coherent, un confusing guide to CID that won't brick your machine
4. Here is a link that works and clearly states which software versions are available for download
5.Here are idiot proof instructions on how do to perform key functions of upgrading.
Before everyone flames this remember I have seen the various posts and threads that talk about these things, but they are usually followed by tons of people who have had problems with ROM, Links, Bricks and other issues. In addition a lot of the information is plain confusing.
So if anyone out there has clear links or pointers let me/us know I will volunteer to compile it because right now I am about ready to toss my crippled Athena out the window.
RT
I'm not sure that I understand exactly what you mean, but from my experience with XDA communities, the Athena has a relatively non "newbie friendly" approach. I don't mean to insult anybody of-course, but the switch from the Wizard community to the Athena one was hard, and I feel like people here save too much info for themselves and don't like to share or help new people. I must say, I don't mean to insult anybody or criticize, I'm merely expressing my feelings from my one month around here.
Unlock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
Radio - latest 1.57 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372904
AP4 works fine with Wifi unless you screw up badly - then it CAN be fixed.
Simple, unlock, flash radio 1.57 or leave at 1.5 if you are happy with it, if you have an earlier version it's best to upgrade, then flash AP4.0
I will give it a try
Thank you for all the responses in short time. I have seen these threads and read the aftermath, but I will try them anyway and hope for the best.
Thanks again for the replies.
RT
OK- none of the files I was pointed to seem to work. I get tons of error when I try to open them. Is there a place that provides instructions on getting the process to work properly?
RalphTech said:
OK- none of the files I was pointed to seem to work. I get tons of error when I try to open them. Is there a place that provides instructions on getting the process to work properly?
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What problems are you having? Can you download AthenaUnlocker.zip (ie click on the
Click here to download! link in the first link) If so, can you unzip it? What errors are you getting?
In black and white
RalphTech said:
First off- this is a great site with valuable information for all matters HTC. It has been a resource that has helped me get more use out of my HTC products.
I have a Universal, Dash, Athena, Startrec, and Wing.
Lately I have been trying to get some useful information for the Athena and no amount of searching, reading Wiki ing can answer my questions or even help me get a baseline understanding of things with the Athena.
It is quite frustrating- I would want to straightforwardly ask a question in a new thread, but it seems that the more experienced people on this board jump to the conclusion that a question is the result of not searching or not reading. I can tell you that I spend hours a day searching for things on this site and often times find irrelevant search results or endless threads with needle in haystack like answers that only partially answer questions. Is there anyway to organize this space better so that questions can be answered more efficiently?
The wiki is not useful for the most part- it has less info than some threads- links are old or irrelevant and searching is plain useless.
Great site everybody but darn frustrating for finding info- Any one else having this issue?
RT
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After about a week reading, I have not been able to find the procedure of flashing the radio of this device. "flashes the same way as the ROM" is as close as I have been to the info. I have a device that shows no radio installed, the olipro tool never advances past 0% and gives an error, after which the phone is stuck in bootloader mode and has to be reflashed with a non radio containing ROM in order to get it to boot again. Radio containing ROM's like Black Touch get stuck at 85%, with the same chore of reflashing a non radio ROM afterwards. I downloaded radio 1:58, but the download only has the actual radio file, no flashing utility. Copying the utility from a ROM file does not work either. Someone else in the same situation has a thread for help. He tried flashing from the SD card, but no dice. His thread is not receiving any useful posts from any of the gurus. The "excellent" video that is pointed out in the olipro unlocker thread is mute, so you have to peel your eyes to see through the low quality picture and still can't read the dialogs shown on screen. Those that ask questions are called idiot or lazy and after reading these posts, the searching for info turns into a graceless process. If the chiefs managing this section of the site care about it being useful, a concise, informative, black and white type sticky thread, read only, closed to responses would be a good idea. Maybe inserting the flashing procedures for unlocking, ROM and Radio flashing into the Athena Wiki would also help. This way newbies and others can come and read the basic procedures without having to filter through the vast amount of threads that only lead to more confusion. I wish I knew more about the procedures, I would beef up that wiki, but I'm afraid I can do more damage than good with my limited knowledge.
completly agree
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND

HaRET/Linux/Android very initial work

Hi Guys,
I just wanted to let you know I've started playing around with HaRET on my new shadow. So far HaRET is able to start, correctly identify the hardware, and I'm able to connect on port 9999 to do some diagnostics on the device.
Next step will be to cross compile a kernel using some of the instructions for similar HTC devices and see if I can get a linux kernel to start booting.
There's going to be some work necessary to make this thing useful under linux. Someone will need to figure out a way to map the keyboard to do t9 like input. We'll have to see if the gsm hardware and wifi hardware are the same as some of the other models too.
I don't have a ton of time to do this, so progress will probably be very slow, but I just thought I would throw this out there in case anyone else is interested in looking at it.
I'd donate if -myHTC- and ND4SPD join together and create something out of this.
If we can all figure out a way to help each other out on here, the final product can be amazing.
im ready to donate as well.
im not very savy when it comes to roms and development but i can help with what i can!
Sure, I'd love to work on this. But I don't know anything really about linux/android...I can port stuff, so I might be a little usesful, especially since the HTC G1 has been released.

Android

It would be interesting to know if there is an alternetive to windows mobile...
Android is now coming to stores in mobiles, so it would be a good idea to try running android in our touch viva (opal)
does anyone know if it is possible to do this and how??
Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462188
In short: It can run, but it's not usable as a complete WM replacement yet. Currently, there's no support for sound, vibration, leds, wifi or bluetooth concerning the Opal.
If you're interested in helping with development, please take a look at the thread I linked, you'll find most of the information there and I'll be more than glad to answer any question not already answered there.
Currently, it looks like I'm the only one working on the Opal side, and lately, I haven't had much time to dedicate for this project.

how to become a developer

is there like a book or how to i am missing, i wanna learn, i know im a newbie to phones but ive done some programming on computers, so please can some one point to the right direction?
looking for a basic to advance how to guide of becoming either, windows mobile or even better android developer and the tools required to do so.
any help is appreciated
You obviously didnt look at all before you asked. Read the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Development%20Tools
thanks, i totally missed it

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