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Hey everyone...Im the new noob
Just wanted to say hi, awesome forum to find and alot of good information available!
Its all a little daunting at first though (a lot to take in). I'm going to be buying a P4350 for myself (Its what the Herald is known as down here) and am interested in flashing to a new ROM and overclocking the device!
Ive read about and downloaded a app to overclock the OMAP processors, but apparently each time the device comes out of sleep mode, the overclock needs to be re-done...Is there a workaround or a different app that can create a more permanent overclock?
Also, with all the ROMS floating around, could anyone reccomend one?? Is there a big difference in speed when compared to the standard HTC ROM? Im looking for a ROM thats going to be quick but still has alot of functionality and apps!!
Thanks alot guys
in battery status you can check overclock on wakeup
Custom roms are generally faster and better performing than standard roms (we call them RUUs). Here's why
Newer build of wm- if you're familiar with linux, you'll know that there are a bunch of different linux distros and kernels out there. Roms are like distros and the builds are like the kernels. The only difference is that we get new builds like every 3 days or some other ridiculously crazy rate.
pagepool- The pagepool is.... this thing that your phone uses to do things. All you need to know is that it takes up ram and that the RUU rom for the herald has it set to something asinine like 12mb or so. We generally choose 6 or 4, and this frees a bunch of ram.
registry optimizations- this is the same as on any pc. The registry is sometimes slightly malformed and inefficient, so we can cook registry edits into the rom to save the trouble of reapplying them.
My last WinMo phone was the XPERIA X1. With the stock ROM, it was an absolute train wreck. I loved to browse XDA and flash custom ROMs for the interesting hybrid SE Panels / TouchFlo3D ROMs. They were so fast, too, compared to the original SE 6.1. The original was just slow and laggy and frequently buggy as hell.
That was just a year ago.
With the HD2 I find myself not nearly as compelled to flash the ROM. I purchased my HD2 T9193 used (got it in mint condition for a screaming good deal) and the past owner had a custom ROM on there. I actually flashed to an official ROM -- the 1.66 WWE. I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks. The device was snappy, fast, lag-free, and just plain ultra-responsive. I actually liked everything about it, from HTC Messaging and the HTC keyboard to the stock Opera browser to the stock task manager and whatnot. I just felt really at home, and I was really pleased with Sense both visually and in respect to its performance.
Then I see people deriding the stock ROMs thread after thread, blaming it for people's random problems with the HD2. They claim that custom ROMs can fix the problems, but I'm running a stock ROM pretty much trouble-free. The problems I read about that are frequently attributed to stock ROMs are problems I myself am far-removed from, including but not limited to crashing, lag, bugs, and general unsatisfactory performance.
So is it really the stock ROMs that cause so many problems? I'm fairly convinced they represent an excellent way to get a known experience that you can customize fairly easily to exactly the configuration that works for you. I'm very happy with my HD2 and once I get the bloody data connection issue fixed for good I can't imagine the stock ROM will ever give me a misstep. It's just stable and fast as hell for me.
Does the stock ROM just "work" for anyone else?
(I apologize if this is considered a ROM discussion thread [not my intention, but I understand if it is considered so or devolves into one])
I'd prefer a cooked stock-like ROM than any heavily-themed one...if that's what you mean.
I have a stock T-mo Rom, and it's work well for me...Coupla of reg tweaks, and apps. Still has some bugs though..
I too went from the X1 to the Leo (as I affectionally call it over the HD2). I am using the stock 1.72 WWE/HK ROM and am quite happy with it. The thing is there are several things about cooked ROMs that you simply cannot get from a stock ROM (not even by adding .cabs), but the cooked ROMs are always heavily themed.
If I remember correctly, there was only like a handful of X1-based cooked ROMs that matched the look of the stock but had the usability of a cooked ROM, that was my preferred choice.
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
p.s. Anyone feel sometimes some cooks go insane (in a humorous way) with heavily skinning the interface? Just makes me go oh my god! (completely personal opinion with NO mentioning of names ).
btyeh said:
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
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Isn't an option yet? Have you look at the ChuckyROM kitchen? Not all Cooked ROMs are skinned to death (though I agree, some people do have bad taste in themes ) and some are done exactly like stock. If that's not enough, you can always cook your own stock ROM with the added stability and performance tweaks.
I am actually quite happy with the stock T-Mo US ROM. I have not done much tweaking of any kind really. Someday I am sure I will but for now I am quite happy with the phone as it is.
I love stock as well. Tried a couple of coocked (artemis and another one I can't remember) but I am not happy with them at all.
Stock is good. 1.66WWE.
I understand the benefits of cooked ROMs with regard to features and incremental bug fixes, but I don't understand why these benefits come at the expense of the stock ROM's reputation -- that is what I am getting at. I find nothing egregiously wrong with the stock ROM for me now that I've tweaked it sufficiently.
The BEST part about the HD2 is that I always have the option. And the options are all attractive.. I guess there's just too many of them for me to pick just one.
i like my stock ROM don't see any point yet to go for a custom one.i updated to the official one from htc website and hot nolag or problems
There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
I use stock 1.66 ... no problems for me! (well no major ones anyway... got a minor issue with text size when writing an sms but i think every rom has this)
I have the stock 1.72 and I have to say im very happy with it. I would consider a cooked Rom but it will be for curiosity not because of any probs with the stock one.
RReckless
It depends on people's taste
I love cook roms because I like 6.5.x finger-friendly style, and in cook rom I dont have to install some apps 1-by-1, and dont have to apply tweaks 1-by-1. Another good things is cook rom decorate the start menu quite well.
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I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks.
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I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
dipaolnv said:
I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
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They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
friend'scatdied said:
They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
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I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
skycamefalling said:
There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
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I like this statement. Very true.
I use a custom ROM because the OS has a footprint of under 50Mb with a few tweaks, it's fast, and good looking. WM 6.5 stock ROMs are ugly, and I am spoilt with the finger friendliness of 6.5.x.
pongster said:
I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
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Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
friend'scatdied said:
Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
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"an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there."
You just described g.lewarne's ROM Series mate
I've flased the O2 1.72 stock rom and I have no problems to report. It even solved the SMS lag. Along with Cookie, BSB, HD2 Tweak and all the fab clocks from everybody, the stock rom suits me fine.
Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
thank u for ur suggestion
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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This really in the past all Android phones I have owned have been dire out the box and the roms always made them better but apart from running an alternative launcher I think its pretty much perfect rom.
littlepig877 said:
Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers
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If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box
pulser_g2 said:
If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box
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Does the Villain Tweasks work on the offical firmware? cuz I intall it but does not work on my phone in terms of 'prevent the notification when full charged'.
Just try them both, how long is that really going to take?, I have and prefer Villain simply because I am not big on lightnings theme.
Heh, it's funny how we all have different tastes. I love Litening's theme and it's the only reason I use it. As Pulsar said his opens up so extra tweaks. If you don't have a pressing reason to flash, stick with stock, but maybe root if you need to.
Honestly, Samsung has indeed made a really good work with android 2.3.3. But I took Lightning because I like when there's a theme behind all the software. Like same color, or the similar design which make it good-looking.
I haven't tried Villain, since Litening 1.4 is my first romflashing experience. However, compared to the stock unrooted rom in my Galaxy S II, I think Litening has added significant value to my phone. This includes, but is not limited to:
SMB-shares using Samba
Allows you to access your phone's internal memory and SD card over your WiFi as a shared folder. That way you'll never have to connect your phone by USB to manage files.
Vastly improved sound quality on video recordings
Potatoman has a released a modified version of the camera app, which increases the audio resolution on video recordings from 16 KHz to 44 KHz resulting in clearer and cleaner audio. His mod also allows you to silent the camera (disabling shutter sounds and clicks) and increase the video bitrate (although the effect is negliable).
Improved batterylife
Litening will root the phone, allowing you to get rid of Samsungs bundled apps. Once they are removed, they no longer litter in the background.
Video and voice over Google Talk
Litening features an updated version of Google Talk, which allows you to place free voice and video calls over Googe Talk.
Carrier branding goes away
Some carriers have modified the original firmware to disable certain options, for instance 3 has disabled the option to switch between 2G and 3G mode. Logically, Litening does not incorporate these branded limitations.
Minor user interface improvements
Litening features a modified blue theme, which IMHO looks cool. It features an improved battery icon and a snazzy animation when the screen is turned off.
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I'm new here too! I tried both and they both preform perfectly. Although, from personal experience I found the villianrom to have overall battery life but lite'ning to be more stable with a focus on performance.
I am currently on villainrom lite (bloat removed) with the nimphetamine kernel as I find the battery life to be more important to me.
If you want UI overhaul and improved usability, I recommend MIUI. To be honest, it's the only ROM I find greatly improves the way you use the phone.
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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Exactly. There's no rush to flash a new rom because the original Samsung rom is quite ok for me. Wait for a few months and there'll be a lot of better alternatives and CM is getting better and better everyday.
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
iAmlearning said:
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
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Based on your uses I'd leave it stock...you could however install a custom kernel and squeeze some more battery life out of it.
Risk and Difficulty?
Culex316 said:
Based on your uses I'd leave it stock...you could however install a custom kernel and squeeze some more battery life out of it.
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Ok thanks, I have thought about battery life however I am willing to sacrifice a little battery for more speed. Do you think you'd notice the difference? In terms of smoothness and speed on general activities? Also one BIG question(s), how hard it is and how risky is it to root from Mac? Whats the likelihood of me ruining my device, for good? Are we saying 1 in 1000 or for a rookie like me a toss of a coin?
I have watched a few videos and find it pretty amazing what you can do to a phone or tablet. Especially by yourself.
iAmlearning said:
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
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Hi, iAmlearning...
Based on your needs... I would say... stay stock, but root...
You can then run apps like Titanium (always useful for backing up those Temple Run 2 high scores.. or running AdAway (for getting rid of those pesky, annoying ads that seem to crop up just about everywhere...)
As far as risk is concerned... well, it's not really quantifiable... there is ALWAYS the possibility you might hard-brick the thing... but then, you might drop it on the kitchen floor tomorrow!
I'd be a liar if I said the Nexus 7 was 'unbrickable' ... it is eminently 'brickable'! But it's actually kind of hard to do! And if you follow many of the excellent instructions here on XDA, you should be OK. (Actually, rooting is a piece of cake - people make too much of it.)
Finally... rooting involves unlocking the BOOTLOADER... which WIPES the device and performs a FACTORY RESET... so I would suggest it might be done sooner rather than later... before you build up a lot of content on it (not that it can't be backed up elsewhere beforehand).
Once you have root, you can then think about custom ROMs and kernels much later.
But root is you're gateway.
Rgrds,
Ged.
iAmlearning said:
Hi all,
First post as just registered here but XDA seems to be the best place for this subject by far.
Should I root and unlock, install kernel, overclock etc?
I use it for:
-Emails (Business & personal)
-Web browsing (a lot)
-Some games (but simple ones)
-Viewing and editing (slightly) Images.
-Google Analytics/Ads/Drive
-CRM database etc
In addition to the above question, I want to now if overclocking to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 ghz or install would make the N7 smoother and faster for these general things? I wont be 'gaming' or doing anything massively graphics or processor intensive (I dont think?)
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Doesn't sound like you really need to root. If you get sick of the interface or whatever you can always install a launcher like Nova Prime and play around with it. The things you can do without being rooted is pretty amazing.
Overclocking it to 1.4 Ghz won't make a huge difference, but overclocking to 1.8 Ghz will. It will also drain your battery a lot faster - something to think about. I'm one of the under clockers to preserve battery.
One further question?
ynrozturk said:
Doesn't sound like you really need to root. If you get sick of the interface or whatever you can always install a launcher like Nova Prime and play around with it. The things you can do without being rooted is pretty amazing.
Overclocking it to 1.4 Ghz won't make a huge difference, but overclocking to 1.8 Ghz will. It will also drain your battery a lot faster - something to think about. I'm one of the under clockers to preserve battery.
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You have probably answered my question, I am a bit scared to overclock past 1.4 or 1.5 due to the heat and me not really knowing what I am doing and as the battery life is fairly important I might just leave as stock.
However like a few people advise I may try to give the rooting a go.... or maybe find a cheap used tablet or handset and try it on that first?
Would be great to get rid of the adverts.
Question - I have heard that some of these customer ROM's take away the unnecessary junk from the OS and make things smoother and faster? Would this be more worthwhile than overclocking if I were to do just one? Also any ROM's for this purpose that people recommend?
Thans again everyone
Well because the device is a Nexus device, it comes very clean as default. Not really any junk on the device to slow it down, even though that "junk" is relative. For example, I live in Europe and Google Play Music does not work over here, so I've disabled it. I've also disabled Google Currents, and any other built in apps that I simply do not use. Now it's like those apps are not even on my device - they are just dead.
If we were talking about a Samsung tablet, then yes I would say root it. Because rooting would allow you to get rid of Samsung's Touchwiz interface, which can be a bit of a RAM hog. But the Nexus 7 doesn't have such a problem, it's already stock and very smooth.
I can tell that you're very interested in this stuff and you will most probably root in the near future. However, my advice to you would be to just use and enjoy the device as it is right now, but in the mean time just read about how to unlock bootloaders, rooting, custom ROM's.. read as much as you can. You'll get more familiar with the process and the terminology, and it will be a big help when it comes time to root two months down the line.
One custom ROM I can recommend is Paranoid Android. Truthfully, it's the only one I can recommend because its the only one I've flashed. I like it, but does it make a huge difference from stock in terms of speed? Not really. It has a load of other cool features, though.
If all you're interested in is battery life and performance, rooting and a custom kernel would suffice. However for what you say you'll be using it for, not really needed. The nexus line is super simple to root and play around on though. It all sounds way more complicated than it really is.
Sent from my Paranoid 3.0 Nexus7 running M-Kernel mr1
ynrozturk said:
Well because the device is a Nexus device, it comes very clean as default. Not really any junk on the device to slow it down, even though that "junk" is relative. For example, I live in Europe and Google Play Music does not work over here, so I've disabled it. I've also disabled Google Currents, and any other built in apps that I simply do not use. Now it's like those apps are not even on my device - they are just dead.
If we were talking about a Samsung tablet, then yes I would say root it. Because rooting would allow you to get rid of Samsung's Touchwiz interface, which can be a bit of a RAM hog. But the Nexus 7 doesn't have such a problem, it's already stock and very smooth.
I can tell that you're very interested in this stuff and you will most probably root in the near future. However, my advice to you would be to just use and enjoy the device as it is right now, but in the mean time just read about how to unlock bootloaders, rooting, custom ROM's.. read as much as you can. You'll get more familiar with the process and the terminology, and it will be a big help when it comes time to root two months down the line.
One custom ROM I can recommend is Paranoid Android. Truthfully, it's the only one I can recommend because its the only one I've flashed. I like it, but does it make a huge difference from stock in terms of speed? Not really. It has a load of other cool features, though.
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Quite impressed that you can determine this, as its 100% correct. I am probably going to do this at some point, but maybe not just yet, I think I need to get comfortable with the process and research a bit more about it all. Also, I am actually very impressed with the Nexus 7 as it id and coming from an Apple iPhone 5 and iPad 3, I can safely say that I'd not go back to either after this. I used to think Apple had it all in terms of functionality and innovation, however in recent years they have almost made backwards steps.
But thanks for the response, I keep seeing the Paranoid ROM around and on signatures. So may give that a go.
iAmlearning said:
Quite impressed that you can determine this, as its 100% correct. I am probably going to do this at some point, but maybe not just yet, I think I need to get comfortable with the process and research a bit more about it all. Also, I am actually very impressed with the Nexus 7 as it id and coming from an Apple iPhone 5 and iPad 3, I can safely say that I'd not go back to either after this. I used to think Apple had it all in terms of functionality and innovation, however in recent years they have almost made backwards steps.
But thanks for the response, I keep seeing the Paranoid ROM around and on signatures. So may give that a go.
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I wouldnt root it for the uses you are indicating, BUT from your post I can already see that you eventually will. My advise is set a saturday or friday night aside and get this done sooner than later. Its just easier because this device not having an SD card will make it difficult to restore data and things that you have already done on it ( I got it two days ago and still havent rooted but am already worreid about some of the work ). The thing that usually helps me the most is youtube. Read a lot but have a good comprehensive detailed youtube video of teh rooting method you decide to follow and just follow along with the video. I have rooted 3 phones using that method and have yet to brick anything.
Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
Experience differs from user to user. The most conclusive way to get an answer is to try it out yourself. For me, PA has been just as fast as the stock ROM and had equally good battery life, but I have had the occasional random reboot. To me that's a miniscule trade-off for the features you get. You won't really get a ROM that's significantly faster than a stock ROM though because the hardware on the phone is good enough that everything feels fast.
tomer90 said:
Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
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I would recommend you try both and stick with the one that works best for you. Only you can determine which one you like more. The N4 is easy to install a custom rom on (even from stock). Plus with the backup apps out there you don't have to risk losing your data and starting over. No two users are identical and what works for one may not work for another.
For what it's worth, I've flashed back to stock/locked/unrooted because I never came to depend on the features the different roms gave me. I'm getting older and don't have the time to stay current on the different roms and features. All I need for my phone are apps/features that are found in the stock rom and the google store. Battery life is better on a custom rom but it's not worth it to me to continue my "flashaholic" ways. I still get through a day sometimes a day and a half on the stock rom - which is all I need. My use case could be drastically different than yours so don't do what I did unless you know it will work for you.
The developers here do great work and it's a great community so I would recommend you try them all to see which one you like the most.
Good luck.
You need to find the answer yourself.
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its not about me testing for myself because i'm not looking for features or special stuff i can get along with everything i'm really just looking for the fastest most battery saving ROM, thats it, I play little to almost no games basicly mail and scanning and stuff like that(i'm a student right now) and soon i'll be writing some apps for myself for security purposes so I need something to really milk that Quad Core for all its worth so I also need some CPU tweaking apps(not sure if thats ROM related)
You'll be very happy with Sabermod or Rasbean both close to stock. Sabermod is the only Rom built using the 4.8 chaintool and is very fast. The battery life is also excellent. I recommend those 2 for a close to stock experience with some useful tweaks both fast smooth and solid.
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Thank you for your input.
Any other opinions?
and by the way, excuse my ignorance but what does it mean 4.8 chaintool? what makes it faster then the 4.7 or the older ones? and since its really new im guessing, does it mean its less stable then the other ROMS? and when you say excellent battery life, its in comparison to all those other ROMS that aim for max battery life?
Thank you!
If you really want more battery life or smoothness then IMO you should just install a new kernel; Franco's kernel has great battery life but it still has better performance than stock, Trinity kernel is super fast and smooth, and there's loads more options available.
I'm running CM10.1 and Franco kernel and its very stable, barely ever have any sort of bugs or random reboots
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I run CM10.1. Close to stock, but has a few options that are nice to have especially if you like to customize your phone. There are other Roms that have more options, but to me, what's in CM is enough. It's really up to you.
With that being said, I recently flashed a stock rooted rom and got MUCH better battery life than on CM. I don't know if it was an app I had or what, but stock definitely gave me better battery life. I have tried kernels and Rom combinations, but always come back to CM with every single phone I've had. But, in my experience on the Nexus 4, stock Rom gives me the best battery life.
For me liquidsmooth is brilliant! Extremely fast while having tons of customization options. Pair it with matr1x and it really is a great combo for speed and battery life. This is only my opinion but it works for me. I got over 22000 on antutu with this combination (no overclock) while I think its around 17000 on stock. I also get significantly better battery life compared to stock.
if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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paul_viado said:
if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
playya said:
Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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Oh no I fully understood what he meant and my point was simply people unroot or stay stock to wait for an update. Whether you are rooted or not the update will find you in some form. Either with a rooted stock rom or a custom rom but rest assure that xda will not let an update happen and its not on everyone's phone :good: