I got myself a payg sim to use in my tytn thinking that I would have access to HSDPA; however I found the following article about having to enable HSDPA on your T-Mobile SIM to take advantage and only then it looks like contract.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5536.html
Does anyone else have experience with a T-Mobile PAYG sim and do you have HSDPA enabled?
I've got one and it worked on HSDPA straight out of the box.
Phil
Well I got a Vario II and WnW pro and was getting .3Mbps until I phoned them. The girl on support was trying to get a techie but couldn't and said she would try to get hold of someone and call back. The next time I tried a speedtest an hour or so later I got 1.1Mbps.
yeah i just realied te hsdpa service wasnt added on my vario II line either.... ( i hope they activate it by default on new connects, mines been through a few price plan changes in the last few months )
getting onto it now though,
does anyone know if thats good for PAYG as well? I presume everyone below is talking about contract.
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yeah i just realied te hsdpa service wasnt added on my vario II line either.... ( i hope they activate it by default on new connects, mines been through a few price plan changes in the last few months )
getting onto it now though,
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Mine was a new contract - so not always it seems.
My post above was not clear. My Tmobile payg card works with HSDPA without having to get get anything switched on.
Phil
I found out today from T-Mobile Cutomer Rep (and confirmed in Store) that T-mobile PAYG cutomers are not connected to the HSDPC network, thats for contract only though payg can access standard 3g services.
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Hi, I have been watching with keen interest the development of the Universal. I had the original XDA and the XDA2 but have been waiting for this 3G device before I upgrade.
I have one on back order, but not with Expansys. I have been watching Expansys wondering if I should get one through them instead of waiting however when I phoned them for some technical info about 3G networks the sales individual did not know anything about the "UK networks"!!!
So, does anyone know if you can take an unlocked, uncofigured, JasJar (such as those being sold on Expansys) and just configure the settings for 3G, or is it far more complicated than that.
I am sure I read somewhere that 3G settings need to be configured by the network, unlike GPRS which I have easily configured for my voda sim card in my xdas.
Well if it can be configured, anyone know the settings for the JasJar to use vodafone 3G ??
Cheers, Numb
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
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n1, thats good to hear. But did u have to configure any settings for 3G ? or was the phone already configured, and if it was already configured it who by, Expansys ?
If they are unlocked presumably you have to configure it to your chosen network ?
Thx fer the reply tho, can't wait to get mine now, you lucky devil.
Cheers, Numb
to make a long stiry short: settings for gprs and umts/3g are the same, no need to change anything, if you have your vodafone gprs set you are ready to use 3g as well.
cheers, lutz
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:lol: n1 lutzh that is what I was after. Keeping my fingers crossed for early next week. Otherwise I may to try a different distributer.
Thx again for the heads up.
Cheers, Numb
Hi. i have just got my Exec, totally happy with it, it's just that i cant get my VIDEO CALLING UP AND RUNNING :-(((
I live in North London, and there is no network coverage. so i thought, maybe that's the area problem. Than, @ Notting Hill , still no coverage, and finally @ oxford street, NOTHING. What the F**K i thought...
I am porting my Number from Orange, and it will take about a week for my Temporary O2 number to become what i had from Orange,
so i thought maybe that is one of the reasons???
May be i have to Activate the service somehow, i have no idea, what am i doing wrong, I even tried to change the Band from Auto to Umts, but that didnt help either.
please share your steps, or sollutions???
cheerzzzzz
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Did you receive a new sim with your exec. If you did, you will have to activate that before using 3G. On O2 your video calls will only be charged from your free minutes until 31/03/2006. After that it's 50p per minute!
What with skype and all the other services up & coming I find it hard to believe that they will stick to the pricing. But we shall wait and see.
so how do we activate the 3G then?
so how do we activate the 3G then?
alpharom said:
Did you receive a new sim with your exec. If you did, you will have to activate that before using 3G. On O2 your video calls will only be charged from your free minutes until 31/03/2006. After that it's 50p per minute!.
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Somewhere on O2 website i read that Video calls are charged same rate as voice calls ? isn't true ?
Wow that was a quick reply.
i Was trying to call these guys in the morning, but my 30 min break just wasnt enough :twisted:
@ the end this idiot told me that my phone is not 3G Compatible. Tat put me off the conversation :roll: and plus i had to go back to work 8)
anyway i think that i will have to wait for my orange number to finally ported and got activated, and hopefully then...
[quote="Somewhere on O2 website i read that Video calls are charged same rate as voice calls ? isn't true ?[/quote]
As posted before see link here...
http://flash.o2.co.uk/personal/videocalling.html
Pay Monthly - Until 31 March 2006, video calls from O2 mobiles will be charged at the same rate as equivalent voice calls and will be eligible for inclusion within the monthly inclusive calling plan minute allowance. From 1 April 2006, Video calls from O2 mobiles to other UK mobiles will be excluded from the monthly allowance and charged 50p per minute. Video calling is handset and network dependant.
Pay & Go - Video calls made in the UK to all UK mobiles will be charged 50p per minute at all times and will be excluded from any Bolt Ons or free allowances that include voice mails (other than O2 Friends). Video calling is handset and network dependant.
Still if anyone knows how to activate this 3G service, it would would help out us who dont realy know about these things. Thanks
You should get a new sim with your exec unless you already have a 3G sim. Ring customer services and go through the security checks. They will ask for the serial number of the sim to be activated. It usually is done within 24 hours. Mine was done after 6 hours.
Good luck
PS. Check your postcode to see if you have coverage in your area as well.
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/map.asp
my o2 card was working since i put it in, plus i haven't seen anywhere on my papers asking me to Activate. Thats a bit stupid of them.
Unless it's just me
Yep, your original card will work just like mine did, but I received a new sim card in the box. (They are different to older sims). Only these can run 3G. They activate the new one and the old one gets switched off....eventually!
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You should get a new sim with your exec unless you already have a 3G sim. Ring customer services and go through the security checks. They will ask for the serial number of the sim to be activated. It usually is done within 24 hours. Mine was done after 6 hours.
Good luck
PS. Check your postcode to see if you have coverage in your area as well.
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/map.asp
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Thanks mate I'll phone o2 tomorrow. they never told me this when i purchased.
mine was new one, came in the box as well. I am migrating from Orange.
But i will try to get hold of them tomorow again.
Thanks
OK your exec should be supplied with a 3G sim card ...it tells you on it in the small numbers on the card itself...8989 889 3G bla bla.... you need to call O2 and they need to activate GPRS and 3G (UMTS)....once they to that you should see the small icon on the top displaying either a "U"..(yep i see 3g) or a "G"..(yip i see gprs but no 3 g......3g or not 3g that is the question :lol: )...you can only video call when you have a U.....so to test it...use internet exploper on the device and surf the web on it via gprs...slower,,....then 3g...should nice and quick...then at least you know you have 3g and gprs connections are workin.....but i think o2 have a wee problem with there video calling on the exec...but i dont want to talk about it just now..lol as its doing my head in ..been in a o2 shop trying to fix the video calling.......sad thing is i knew more than they did....gggggggrrrrrrrrrrrr..ps or is that ee.g ? eh?
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so how do we activate the 3G then?
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Hi Fellow Plymothian!
1st Problem
Fist thing did the SIM have 3G printed on it (on the big card before you pop it out), if it just says GSM it's not a 3G SIM.
I got my O2 XDA Exec from Mobileshop.com and checked beforhand it would come with a 3G SIM, it didn't but they shipped me a proper 3G sim the next day.
2nd Problem
O2 3G reception is very very poor where I live in Peverell (top of the hill near Outland Road), I can only get a 1 bar signal upstairs in the front of the house. The O2 coverage checker showed good 3G signal strengh.
In comparison 3 and Vodafone 3G are very good signals anywhere in the house.
So I have set the Phone to GSM only and use Wifi when at home, when away I switch over to 3G (UMTS) if need it for data but keep it on GSM for better battery life the rest of the time.
Jonathan
well well.
I have got it now finally. The BUYMOBILES.COM sold me EXEC with a regular SIM 2G one. I have called them in the morning and they told me O2 does not supply them with 3G SIMS for this phone. and told me to comtact o2 to get a 3G sim.
I did that, and they told me either you wait 5 working days or go to any O2 shop and ask for 3G SIM. I did that, called them to activate it(YOU HAVE TO DO THIS IN ORDER TO GET 3G) and now i got my U sign instead of G and video calling is working.
On the sim, YOu do actually have a 3G sign.
Mine came from O2 direct (online)
its a 3g sim card
showing as G not U - so might be needs activating or might be not in their 3G area ??
However I wonder if the free GPRS until 31/12/05 ( if it exists) is for G or U usage, so not going to call them to activate 3G until I know ( if I get free GPRS on 2g, I think I'll leave it a couple of months)
o2 said no nned to activate a 3g card - must be because I'm not in their 3g coverage, that I only get "G" not "U"
Using the 02 sim in my nokia 7600 I can do a network search .. as it details all 2g and 3g networks , and yes I'm only showing 2g for o2 and orange , whereas voda and T Mob all have 2 & 3G ( so does Three , although their 2G is actually o2 piggyback!)
Placing a "3 network" sim in the xda Exec , changes the G to a U, and after changing settings I can get 3G GPRS access - but only to their page telling me to register/pay for the service
Hi All
I have just ordered a orange spv m3100 to be used unlocked on t-mobile. I just phoned up t-mobile to ask if i need a new sim to use in a 3g phone, but the woman i spoke to seemed to think that there is no such thing as a 3g sim, is this correct?
Will my old sim from my wizzard work in the m3100 and will i get 3g?
Thanks
you can use a 2g sim in the m3100 but you wouldnt be able to get any 3g services out of it.
best thing to do is just pop your sim into it and it will tell you if you have a 3g signal.
hope this helps
thats what i thought, thanks. i will have to phone up t-mobile again and explain i want a 3g sim.
have you asked to receive the m3100 unlocked or are you having it unlocked after you get it?
as far as i'm aware the m3100 comes locked to orange as standard so you won't be able to use a t-mobile sim...
I've spoke to T-mobile previously about 3g services and they've told me that the chip that I got off them (Bought a MDA vario) would be able to use 3g.
I popped it into my Nokia N70 and it worked a treat.
So, you might not need a different type of Sim card
nice tread i was literally going to ask this exact sme question. i just posted in another thread, asking almost the same thing, only i'm getting a new contract on t-mob and extending my misses contracting then gonna pay for them to both be unlocked and then swap the sims,
hope they send me a 3G sim
Strangely enough, I've ordered a Orange SPV 3100 today and depending on if I like it I'm going to get it unlocked and use my t-mobile chip with it.
Don't fancy paying £20 to get it unlocked to test though, So if anyone can get me a free unlocking solution by tomorrow, that would be appreciated
Even T-Mobile pay as you go sim cards seem to be fine for 3g data - just not enabled for video calling.
My vodafone sim card is a standard one, I haven't changed it in 3 or 4 years and 3g works fine.
thanks for the replys guys, this is all sounding good
I have a mate who had a MDA Vario. He bought an unbranded TyTN and asked me what he had to do to get the internet working.
I said call T and ask for 1) 3g sim 2) connection settings.
He called T and they said he didn't need a 3g sim... I have to say I though they were talking bollocks. So he popped his old sim in and we had a video call - no problems at all.
So you may be ok...
It depends on when you got your device/SIM. If bought over the last year it should be OK, if the SP supports 3G anyway. Older SIMs may need to be replaced.
So...the networks have been shipping USims instead of Sims....interesting. I didn't know that.
Quite useful to know.
thats very interesting, although I have had my sim for some time so not sure if it is a usim. Mine came with my Magician just over a year and a half ago. When I got my wizzard, I just swpped the sim over.
My M3100 should be here today, so I will test it and see what happens.
I dont think there will be a free unlocking tool for a few weeks at least, so Im just going to pay the £20 and get the code.
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So...the networks have been shipping USims instead of Sims....interesting. I didn't know that.
My voda sim is a sim (not a usim) and is about 3 years old and has worked in every voda 3g phone I've tried it in (v980, 6680, sharp 902, sharp 903, v3x and xda exec).
Gives 1.2mb on hsdpa.
I just had to ask for it to be enabled when voda launched 3g.
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i was reading at modaco ( http://www.modaco.com/Vario-II-OUT-NOW-Telesales-onlyand33-t244456.html ) that to get HSDPA you need to have WnW PRO :S i got confused now.
is it correct?
i hvent been told that.
HSDPA is a software upgrade to the existing 3G network from t-mobile. It does not require activation by customer services, it does not cost any extra to use and is not available only to web and walk pro users.
From what I read on the t-mobile site, there are no differences between the 2 types of the service...
web'n'walk is an extra to your Flext, U-Fix, Relax or payg tarrifs.
Web'n'walk PRO is the same service, but comes with a HSDPA laptop card and could be called a data only contract. The sim card will let you make calls etc, but has no calltime or sms allowances. I beleive its market is business users on the move.
I myself have a HTC TYTN using my flext 25 + web'n'walk sim card. I have tried it in my local 3G area and HSDPA speeds were available. I did not have to activate anything and it works a treat.
T-Mobile confirmed to me earlier that HSDPA is available to anyone who has a compatible handset, users of the Laptop card and upcoming Vario II will be able to use it fully. You can also receive HSDPA without web'n'walk, it is afterall only a software upgrade to 3G, so if you can receive the 3G UMTS signal you can use HSDPA.
are you sure about that thats not what i've heard and its not whast going around on alot of the forums...
I got myself a t-mobile payg sim the other day and they told me in the store that I wouldn't get the hsdpa. I do! Good deal I think for £1 per day.
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are you sure about that thats not what i've heard and its not whast going around on alot of the forums...
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Everything I said was told to me by a t-mobile customer service agent last night when I tried to activate HSDPA
My standard web'n'walk service seems to get HSDPA without any problems.
The best action would be to call t-mobile and find out if your account will have it or not.
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are you sure about that thats not what i've heard and its not whast going around on alot of the forums...
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yep, adam_beasley is right. HSDPA is just 3G network upgrade, available to anyone having HSDPA compatibile handsets.
Hi all,
Will a HTC Hermes purchased in UK work with T-MO USA
Yes as long as it is SIM unlocked.
Info is here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SimUnlock
S.K.
Yes
I'm just back from Florida and it worked fine - without unlocking. It picked up T-Mobile USA as soon as I stepped off the plane.
That's very interesting. Do you have any idea yet on charges? Did you use calls and data? It would be handy to know.
My hotel had wi-fi so I used that 99% of the time. I did occasionally use a data connection for e-mail (3G in Orlando area, GPRS some other places, nothing down south!) and the odd text message. No phone calls. Cost me around £5 when my bill came in.
Please note that I have an unlimited data plan in the UK but this does not work abroad. Also, I could not use my BT Zone account (even with partner sites such as t-Mobile) when in the US (my BT Mobilezone or whatever it is called) did not work outside of the UK either).
Still, £5 not bad at all really. Definitely a plus for t-mobile there.
Sorry to burst your bubles but...
1.) MDA Vario II is TOTALLY locked! however Pof's unlocker v3 works great.
2.) T-Mobile USa has Nothing to do with T-Mobile UK, or Germany, or any other T-moblie. None of your plans or minutes cross over, this is true all networks, Orange, Voda, etc.
This is how they screw us to the walls, imagin if they give that up? All those 1.50 GBP per minute roaming fees and 40P texts?
And data, forget about it! Even worse.
(The guy above must have sent like 3.5 texts and mad 1 call)
We may get a break with the EU next summer in Europe, (lower roaming fees, Check out O2 for this)
But you will not get b orderless roaming in your lifetimes, you may get reduced fees, which is a start. But NEVER in the US, there you will get screwed.
The best solutions is to BUY PayGo sim cards, in the US T-mobile is the best for that.