New XDA Exec - Message on screen 'Policy Change' - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hi All - My old XDA died and I bought a 'used one' from O2 (call that 'u1') - so far so normal. O2 also repaired my dead one with a shiny new one (call that one 'n1')
Here is my problem. I backed everything up from 'u1' using SPB Backup. When I tried to restore it all to 'n1', the restore got about 90% through and a system message came up saying 'due a policy change, you need to enter your password'. There was also a drop down box offering anything from 0 minutes to 24 hours' to tell the password when to kick in). This message was generated by the device and NOT SPB. I've never seen this before on an XDA. Has anyone else?
Firstly, I've never come across that message before - any one know if it's because my 'n1' has got newer features on it?
Once the restore completed I soft reset and I was presented with a new screen that I haven't seen before on boot-up. Blue Background with the Windows logo and the words 'Windows Mobile 5'..and the device just hung there. If I soft reset, it just gets to that screen and hangs.
I then HARD reset the device and although I still get this new 'splash screen' (just after the O2 one) it only stays there for around 25 seconds and then the device behaves normally
1. Any ideas what the 'policy change' screen is all about
2. What's the purpose of this extra splash screen?
..and does anyone know if technically it SHOULD be possible to restore from a backup file made on ANOTHER XDA?
Thanks everyone - appreciate any advice you can offer
ROM DATE
u1 = 30 Nov 2005
n1 = 11 Apr 2006
EXTROM
u1 1.13.188
n1 1.30.162
Steve

Well, if you wanted, you could flash the old ROM if anyone has a copy, that way you'll have your "Old" policies back. XD

Thanks...
Thanks for your reply...
I'm mostly OK with PCs but what exactly does 'policy' mean in this context (for the XDA). Is it some sort of security thing?
Any idea why I'm getting this extra splash screen? Is it 'normal'?
S

Jargon aside m8 and what you have is a problem where the backup from the old rom is conflicting with the newer rom and this is quite normal... either restore your old rom (if you have it) or start from scratch with the newer rom apart from the sync with outlook.
To be honest with you I could not explain exactly what policy means since this word could relate to anything in particular and is not necessarely computer jargon...in this case i would say that its the equivalente that some files on your windows system are missmatching???..... http://www.answers.com/policy&r=67 .
WBR

Cheers...
Hi m8 - You're right, it does appear to be a conflict with the different ROMs. What I've found is that in the NEWER ROM there's some extra applets/progs. The one that seems to be causing the problem is the LOCK applet, which I don't think I have on my OLD XDA. It allows you to set a time frame whereby the device will prompt for a password. When I open that on the new one, the screen looks identical to the window that's popping up during the restore.
I think rather than try and restore onto the new one, I'll simply reinstall everything
Thanks for helping me to clarify things!
S

Related

Removing the aline screen process from A.30.09 ROM

I am tired of the screen alingment process every time i do a hard reset.
Can it be removed?
I have the A30.09 ROM wallaby
RSU 33.02
Bootloader Ver. 5.15
I think you've never use a PDA that had a messed up alignment. Believe me, the alignment process is there for a good reason. Wihout it you can't reliably type or select items.
The process is needed because the screen touch sensor response varies from unit to unit, and this is how you can get a consistent response.
llawrence1969 said:
I am tired of the screen alingment process every time i do a hard reset.
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Just for curiosity, why do you need this much of hard reset ?
i've bee upgrading using ROM kitchen and there is always something i don't like or use regarding the additional software hence the hard resets.
Obviously a misunderstanding -- the screen alinement i figured if removed from the startup process doesn't mean it won't be available under start settings and system when you need it and therefore would use less ROM. I believe i read that that is possible somewhere but can't remember.
Not really the screen alinement is part of the ROM removing it would mess things up big time...
Beside again why those many Hard Resets??? if you continue like that you wont need to remove the the screen alinement you will need a new device.
:?:
the screen alignment + all the usual startup cut & paste junk has been removed on previous cooked roms, so I know it can be done, and I know wut u are talkin about...after a while, those things can get very annoying
Finally!
Someone who knows what i'm talking 'bout.
The hard reset are to try different ROM installed apps after flashing a ROM kitchen. It's not that unusual in this forum...read the posts. If something happens I have copies of ROM backup on SD card, PC and all the tools necessary to get my XDA up and running.
Hi lawrence,
I'm searching too for a solution on this! If anyone knows how to remove that cut 'n paste and align screen, I would like to know that!
The reason why, is that I'm creating applications for some people that like to forget to charge... :?
After a weekend, they sometimes have a hard-reset. Now I need to create my own ROM that reinstalls those applications without that setup-screens!
Sam
I still think that the fact that you want to remove the screen alignment from the cold start process shows that you don't understand why it's there in the first place. It's not just to teach the user how to click on the screen. If the screen alignment isn't done you can end up with clicks being registered in the wrong place.
I can understand deleting the tutorial, but IMO a guy who lets his battery run down to the extent that it needs a cold boot will also not be able to figure out that he needs to go find the screen alignment program when his screen clicks get all weird on him...
the screen alinement i figured if removed from the startup process doesn't mean it won't be available under start settings and system when you need it
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well how can you choose the screen alinement if the screen dont understand where you are pressing because of lack of alinement
OK,
Let me say that the alignment is importent, but that cut 'n paste and setting up the time-zone is something I really don't need for a good PDA-Setup...
Any suggestions?
Sam
A while ago I did think of a way to not have to align at every coldboot:
- save the alignment parameters somewhere in ROM
- have welcome.exe check for the presence of alignment data in ROM,
and use those, in stead of calling TouchCalibrate.
- if no calibration data is found in ROM, then after calling
TouchCalibrate save the data in ROM.
the calibration data is stored in the registry in this key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH]
"CalibrationData"="507,517 150,237 153,781 866,782 861,241 "
I also noticed that the xda-2 is much better aligned without calibration than the xda-1.
samvds said:
OK,
that cut 'n paste and setting up the time-zone is something I really don't need for a good PDA-Setup...
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I have the same problem. Sometimes when I should change SIM for some reason, I should remove battery for couple of seconds. The following occurs:
1. Device reacts as during hard reset: align, cut-n-paste, installs T-Mobile apps, soft resets, the installs something again.
2. Then I should go to SD card to start sprite backup file restoring. It asks me whether i want to restore or not, then to start or not, then restores 16 M and asks wanna soft reset or not again (stupid process).
3. I don't know why, but default today screen theme which recorded in sprite backup file is usually broken, so I need to tap Settings/Today/Spiral/OK/Default Theme/OK
4. After all I should set correct date and time hence it resets to Sep.2003.
All these steps take about 5 minutes!!!!!! And this is after TWO seconds of work without battery.
The question is: is there any way not to perform all these annoying operations when i leave XDA without main battery for some time. As I know, there is internal battery in XDA, which have enough energy to keep rom alive for this time.
Briefly, I will be happy, if XDA will do soft reset instead of hard when I change my SIM.
Anybody help please!

VJBigPhone, T-Mobile Videobutton on MDAPro

Hi all,
I am aware about all the other threads but yet could not get across some nonsense on my MDA Pro.
I went back to the t-Mobile ROM because of german support on many features but running ozVGA now successfully with two exceptions:
1. Each time I reset the device, I have to reinstall vjbigphone (0.91) and re-run the .exe to get my dialer back to full screen. VJ did a real got job, but I hope anyone coud tell me, what could be wrong?
2. Does anyone know, how to get rid of the stupid and ugly video-button in the t-mobile dialer? I replaced all BMPs with the one's from iMate, but yet video is the stupid grey. flat button.
Once this is solved, I will write down exactly how to get really the tiny machine running with the best tools for best results.
Greetings
ndee
ndee: why do you have to re-install the app?
After a soft reset, what happens when you choose the "load and fix" option from the tray?
I am hoping to spend some time on this app over the next few days. Many apps being fixed, one a at time...
V
Hi Vijay,
when I softreset, everything on the phone is back to the tiny layout. Even though I "load and fix".
Only workaraound I figured out is reinstall :-(
ndee
Strange - I know we spoke about this before, but then, after you re-install it works?
Have you tried not loading VJBigPhone, soft reset, load the phone (eg press green key, so you can see Tiny buttons) and then load VJBigPhone. Does that make any difference? Re-installing shouldn't make any difference, it doesn't load any settings etc from the registry etc...
v
I have some similiar problems. I'm using also the neweset german ROM on my MDA Pro and after a soft reset I don't have to reinstall the app, but I have to close it and restart it again to gain access to the phone application. Without close VJBigPhone nothing happens, after starting the application again everything works fine (till the next soft reset, which happens every morning after the daily backup)
Wolfgang
I have an idea what might be the problem then.
The code was modified a while back to try to find the "phone" program without you having to specify the name in your own language (eg "telefon" instead of "phone"). However, it's possible that if the phone isn't found, it's getting confused. I'll try to look at the code again soon.
I'm not writing any new programs for a while while I do updates to all the old stuff
V
out of sudden, I dont need to reinstall anymore. Just after reset, I run vjbigphoneres and phone comes up full screen. Dont know what I did and how long it will last - keep you informed though - thx so far.
Any solution for the ugly video button of TM insight?
ndee
TM Button: I know you've spoken about it for a while, but I've got no experience of it, I don't really use my Universal I think someone (you?) posted one before, but could you send me a screenshot if you've got appropriate software, and if you have them, a zip of your extended rom?
V

Brand new O2miniS: how to tweak to get max performance?!

Dear all,
I'm new here, I've had a good look through the forum, but I feel a lot of the information is a little over my head. I was hoping for some advice for my new MiniS out of the box:
Regarding setting up my device, are there any programs I should or shouldn't install? Or anything I should uninstall immediately?
Am I better off with the O2 ROM, or is there another I should flash my device with?
Are there any particularly good pieces of software that you could recommend?
Thank-you very much for your help,
s_h_a_h_i_d
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
Surely since the XDA Mini S is an HTC Wizard, not a Magician, he'd be better off looking at the Wizard forum?
o2 mini is a magician init
Yes, but the thread title refers to an O2 Mini S.....
He is refering to MiniS mate.
HA HA, Now that the squabbles are over, , I'd like to add my bit.
The best thing anyone can do first off with the MINI S is toss that o2 customised crap right off.
I am assuming you have'nt put too much on it yet
Press the soft reset button. (Under the IR port)
As you let go of that reset button, make sure you are pressing both the comm manager button, AND the voice buttons. Thats the top left side and upper right side buttons.
This is called a hard reset and WILL ERASE EVERYTHING prom the phones memory.
Do the screen calibration and cut/paste bit.
When it say's "Tap the screen to start using your device", be ready to press the soft reset again.
This is because when you tap the screen, a customisation box will appear.
PRESS THE RESET BUTTON, when you see this box.
The phone reboots and hey presto, proper PDA, not o2's idea of one.
Hope this helps.
Just to add to the above, there is a thread on here regarding decent software for the PDA.
Have a look through the thread list and you'll see it.
I would recommend Resco as a decent file manager with some excellent features. Be careful with some of these tools if you are not sure what you are doing.
Other than that, have fun.
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
Horrorwood said:
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
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LOL, oops, sorry forgot about that bit!!! :?
Hi Jerry-S and everyone.
I've just got a T-Mobile MDA Vario, the Wizard version of T-Mobile.
Would you recommend me doing the same hard reset so that I can get rid of T-Mobile settings?
My Device Information shows:
ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM version: 1.6.2.105
Can I update to a newer ROM and if yes where can I download it and how can I update ROM, please?
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,
PPB
Hi BUSPBP,
I am a relatively new user myself and won't offer advice on anything I am not sure of.
I have seen ROM updates on here for other networks but as I am on o2 and running my most recent ROM, I can't comment.
Just to be sure you understand though, the updating of a rom that isn't specifically for your unit has many risks. At the end of the day, it's up to you so just put ROM in the search page and have a look at what comes up.
As for removing the Network Provider software, I would assume that the process is the same for them all, as the extra operator features are installed from an extended ROM.
That's to say, the main OS is installed first and then the extra stuff installs afterward.
If you can replace things that you have put on your phone then give it a go, it'll either work or not.
At the end of the day, if you like the extra things and want them back, do another hard reset and let everything install as it wants.
Hope this helps.
Hi Jerry-S,
Thanks for your help. After reading through some threads in this forum I've decided to upgrade my Wizard with the new Qtek ROM. It now works much faster and I don't have any more problem with Wifi connection.
Can you or anybody please advise what does the ExtROM do and if I can exclude it from the device? Any good in doing this?
PPB
If you think of it this way, it's a little easier to understand.
When the device is new or has a hard reset, the following happens.
(If I get this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. LOL)
1. The device powers up and a section called the Bootloader starts.
2. As the operating system is not there, it installs it from a ROM.
3. The operating system then runs and you do the stylus calibration
and the date / time settings
4. That is the PDA set up.
5. After that, another ROM is installed, (If you let it), which contains all
the customised software for your particular phone company supplier.
All it means is that the basic Windows OS is running at the same time as the custom software and the Windows functions are accessed by the company customisations that you are presented with.
Because of this, the processor in the PDA is working in effect, twice as hard and it is slower.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing in this custom layer that can't be done directly in the Windows layer.
I would like to upgrade my ROM also as the o2 ROM is one of the oldest versions released, but as I see it, once installed, there is currently no way to downgrade back to the previous version if something goes wrong. Thats the only reason I have'nt done it.
As for removing it completely, I am not sure. I have seen posts on here reffering to that, but I think it is contained somewhere that you couldn't make use of anyway. i.e. Making use of the extra storage space that it takes up.
I know I get a bit long winded, but I have a bit of a job explaining stuff. LOL, sorry.
Hi Jerry-S,
I remember someone told that we could prevent the ExtROM from installation by soft-resetting before that process, but since I don't know yet what are included in the ExtROM and if there's any good in doing so I haven't tried it yet.
I don't know if the O2 device and network settings have anything too special that you could hardly set. In my case though I've got the T-Mobile version I am actually using Orange, so it's perhaps easier for me to come to the decision. And it's worth it for me. No problem with the upgrade, given that I've unlocked CID in advance as someone has warned. And the device is running much faster. That has even halted my intension of doing the overclock, at least for now
PPB
Comments recieved.
I must admit, I kept looking and looking at the ROM file on my computer thinking errrrrrrmmmmm...............
Well I did it, but I didn't notice any real increase in speed, actually it seemed slower to me.
That in mind I though, balls and put the o2 Rom back on.
As for the EXT ROM reatures, I think the main advantage is that the MMS and Mobile web settings are set for you, but those could be found quite easily.

Back-ups --- Quick fix needed please!!!

Hello,
My screen decided to crack for no real reason. Honest.
So o2 being the lovely people they are are sending me a new phone (exec).
It arrives tomorrow and I have to send my broken one back.
Quick question needing a quick fix (ie next hour or so...?!?!):
I would like to save / download my texts before sending the phone back. Now I know there have been loads of posts like this, but I am at work and simply do not have the time to trawl through the posts to find the answers. :roll:
Can anyone take 5 mins to tell me where I can find a simple to use, free program that can save my texts? Please???
Thanks
HPJ
try spb backup. I use this and THINK it does text messages.
or copy each text message to notepad
orsend each text message to a friends phone
or try sprite backup
I had same problem and for me SPB didn't work correctly Soo, I'm not impressed with SPB.
It can backup texts and all the rest, but have some problems restoring them ;(
I've tried 4 different backups
Good luck!
Cheers!
Chris
Hi,
Sprite have just released a new version of their software (v5.1) and solves alot of issues with wm5.
Might help.
Matt
Spb Backup (latest version 1.1.2) works perfectly for me - no problem whatsovere backing up and restoring sms text messages. emails, etc.
Thanks everyone I'll get onto it!
got my new qtec 9000 but it seems slower than my XDA exec, whats up with that????
anyway is there a way to backup everything!!!
so say i need to hard reset i can just load my backup and it will put all my progs, reg hacks etc settings all back to the way it was before the hardreset? without having to do any reinstalling etc????
I know it's probably too late by now but just in case...
You could use Jeyo Mobile Extender which is an add-on for Outlook - this will sync all your SMS messages into Outlook - it's on the top of my list for software to buy in the future the demo is fully functional for 14 days i think and should do exactly what you want.
Cheers,
Smiffy.
krismc
SPB does this perfectly, and i have had any problem with its usage, even during beta. others prefer sprite... whatever turns you on.
for SPB, yes, you can do a full back up, completely hard reset your device, and do a full restore and walla back to original condition, only question is, why did you hard reset it if you want it back to original condition.
so i have created:
1. virgin device - settings, tweaks, hacks and over bare bones device, with absolute essential software installed, registered and licensed such as Resco, SPB backup and other mission criticals.
2. perfect device - all desirable applications, settings, folder and software preferences, licensed, registered and running, but no active sync
3. two backups automated per week so that if i accidentally drop it, or do something stupid like dodgy software, I have a choice of 4 restore points (last two backups, perfect or virgin) depending on what i want.
hope it helps.
great info mte!
i need a backup coz my first xda exec had to be returned due to dead cam light, my current qtec one wont active sync until iv done a hard reset so m guessing its not liking something iv done, plus thats going back as iv noticed the camera has around 30 dead pixels.
hwever if i make a bacup of my device now will it also take the problems with it? ie the activ sync problem?
oh and i ant decide wether i like the silver or black qtec 9000 whats ur guys thoughts? currently on a black one with red keyboard leds
oh and if u aint noticed iv got a brand new imate k jam for sale incase anyones interested

Unlock Extended Rom

Hi there
I've just got my shiny new Touch HD. Wow - what an upgrade to my Orbit 1 (don't laugh). I loved my Orbit but this is so much better. It's not revolutionary, but everything has evolved so well i.e. the big screen, no horrible frame around the screen, USB 2 connection, love the Drive mode thingi when you plug it to your computer ect.
Only problem is I can't get TomTom to work - I'll sort that out later...
Now to the question - how do you unlock the extended rom (I think that what they call it)? I want to prevent the applications from installing i.e. TouchFlo Home Plugin after a hard reset. I find the combination of SPB Pocket Plus 4 Tabs, Today Agenda (and a few other apps.) a much better combination for me.
Hope someone can help.
Anis
Did you try a soft reset when the waiting screen pops up after a hard reset?
Why dont you just uncheck TouchFlo in Settings-Today?
Thanks for the replies.
Ideally I wouldn't want unwanted apps to install. I know it's a fast device but I like to have a clean system.
I could reset the device when it's about the install everything (don't even know how to reset) however I want to keep certain things like the Black HTC theme and a few other things.
Anis
Tried and failed - what did I do?
RacerII said:
Did you try a soft reset when the waiting screen pops up after a hard reset?
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I just tried this last night and tried at multiple stages... and no matter what it insisted on installing all the bloatware. Any idea what I might be doing incorrectly?
When you say "wait screen" - do you mean the initial WinMo v6.1 green-splash screen, or the same display with "Please wait while we [something] for first time use"? I also tried at the Home screen before the customization begins, and while it was running... all still ended up with the software being installed. :/
I've read some great posts (here and Howard Forums) about using Total Commander and entering "\Extended Rom\" but that doesnt open anything on my device. Does that area need to be unlocked?
Thanks for any tips!
I think you need a custom Rom without all of the applications. I had one on my Omnia.
hmm...
typing "\Extended_Rom\" in total commander does not work.
those registry which hide/unhide and lock/unlock extended rom are not there too.
check the wiki, nothing about extended rom or customed rom which is meant for Service Provider specific.
Or is it because the HD I am having is tied to 1 provider, but it is already SIM unlocked which can use other providers SIM.
The original rom is lag, very lag, lots of rubbish in "\windows\" directory beside M$ original files.
How are the cooked roms around in the forum?
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I think you need a custom Rom without all of the applications. I had one on my Omnia.
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+1 for this plan. I'm running a lighter custom 6.5 rom (NRG) with none of the startup ui's. I've loaded Mobile shell#3 and it works very well. Quickest combo I've found so far for snappy-ness and speed. Battery life is fine with it. Try diff light roms without the startup bloatware and you may find something that you like.

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