Hi,
Anybody know how to use MIDI Ringtone on XDA ? What software we need or may be somebody has ring tone colection (like default on PPC 2003 : Terresterial, Mystic, Fantasy, etc) want to share.
Thanks in Advance
Sandy.
yeah any ideas anyone?
I saw some people were doing it.... wondering how
thanks
I remember reading a thread about it somewhere. There was program you need to use to save the midi file in a ringtone compatible different midi format.
I don't understand, one of the features and options that makes our phone unique is the choice of WAV ringtones, It always turn heads when my phone rings. And now with WM2003 is even better, since supports WMA, hence better quality. Why in the world would you want a $500 phone, sound like a cheap Nokia?
If you want choice?. there are plenty of ringtones in my website. If you want to save space in your ppc, convert it to a WMA
my .02 cents
Actually.
If it were a midi file and the soundbank (instruments) were good midi files would sound great. AND they would be tiny.
The issue I had / have with the XDA is how quiet the ringtones are if the WAV isnt normalized or properly created.
Furthermore..
WAV files that are clipping (louder than 0db gain) make popping noises when played back. So there are numerous reasons.
It is compelling that you can have a WAV file.. but..
personally, I think an MP3 is a better idea for WAV ringtones and a midi file is a much smaller foot print.
BTW.
I now have a Sony Erisson T610
beautiful screen and colors..
The XDA isnt very pretty....
The T610 has great sounding ringtones. Way better than the Adlib sound card you remember from Midi in the past.
Thats my 34.87 worth.
BeDammit!!
Microsoft finally paid them off....
http://www.beincorporated.com/
anyone can recommend a good WAV to WMA converter??
Bedammit said:
.....personally, I think an MP3 is a better idea for WAV ringtones and a midi file is a much smaller foot print.
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.....Windows Media Audio (WMA) is smaller and sound better than an MP3. and again, Windows Mobile 2003 supports WMA ringtones, so you can have high quality ringtones, without the hefty memory requirements of a WAV.
just FYI, you guys DID know that there is a SEARCH button function in this forum, all those questions that you guys are making have been already answered.
Anyways, the easiest WAV-MP3-WMA converter is dbpowerAmp which can convert back and forth pretty much every format there is out there. and pretty easy too and FREE.
again, you might want to do a search,..for converter
and for a program to use midi files ?
*raises an eyebrow and smiles at him meekly*
I did try a search for "midi ringtone" AND "midi 2003" to see if I could find the solution but all I got was ... how do I do this... how do I do that... why wont 2003 play midi ring tones.. so I added my question to the bottom of one of those... maybe the forum should have a read only section called F.A.Q ???
btw... the main reason I want to use midi is for what bedammit was saying...
1. mp3s would be god for ringtones... but someone (IE microshaft) wont support the standard (Shocker)
2. midi files are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy smaller than mp3 or wav and so I can fit far more dodgy tones than any current nokia brick.
3. midi files are fantastic for notational purposes outside an XDA... also with a decent set of sound banks (that o/b manufacturers cant include because of cost) you get extremely realistic quality... Sblive plat is what I use the now but if you get a turtle beach or something more than an off the shelf quazi soundcard then you will *NOT* be able to tell the difference. Unfortuantly like many things in life, these superb boards are being priced out of the market because people don't realise they only get what they pay for !.
4. wav is pish as far as signal to noise ratio goes.... so much of those many mbs is just noise and nothing more... you wanna pay $500 for that?
5.WHY THE HELL would anyone pay $500 for a phone that has the pishest speaker on earth integrated in the first place? I dont know... I did...you did... we ALL did... headphones are fine.... but the speaker sucks '.'
6 WHY THE HELL pay $500 for a phone your going to fill the fast flash memory up with wma/wav ringtones (remember how slow it is reading from SD) most multiple ringtone progs dont work correctly unless all tones are in flash. Maybe that's why MS 'forgot' to put it into 2002PE ?
7. talk about quality and then mention WMA ? that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one LOL
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1862&highlight=midi
ahhhhh Greg, yir a hero
6 instruments eh? bleh....
must be too expensive also to add real midi playback on your $500 phone lol...
god you can emulate an AWE32/64 on a PC these days yet Microsoft dont know how to store more than 6 voices on a $500 phone. What value for money :roll: you can buy a pci soundcard with 128 voices for £20...
that other link to www.acoustica.com seems interesting... I'll give that a go when I have time
although if I was doing it that way I'd be as well using WMP9 on 2k3EE.
Go for wma if you have to guys coz MS really dont have a clue what midi is.
cheers, again Greg
Ian.
The dispensing of Crack on Xda-developers
Attn:
It appears that crack is being dispensed on XDX-DEvelopers.com.
Reports have been issued that an un-named source from Miami has stated that MP3s are better sounding than WMAs.
As an audiophile and a music producer.. I can tell you that this is a difficult question to answer without defining your basis for comparison. However...
To solve this now...
Most MP3s are encoded with an older compression codec than WMA 9s WMA codec (assumming that is your comparison for WMA if it isnt... well all bets are off previous versions of WMA are not as high in quality as many mp3s). Low bitrate MP3s (as in mp3s below 128kbs) are better in quality in many circumstances, but most people dont encode or download low bitrate for fidelity reasons.
Furthermore... your choice of player has a role in all the confusion. So make sure you ARENT using an older player/ decoder.
So..
Go out get yourself some good speakers AND headphones and test it yourself.
Make sure you have a NEW MP3 encoding codec from a reputable encoder.
Like hmmm LAME running on say.... CDex.
Next go get a good mp3 player (Sorry folks... I cant say Windows Media player is going to play fairly EVER, as they had OS's to sell.
Try Winamp.
http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.html
http://www.cdex.n3.net/
http://ekei.com/audio/
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/reviews/2606/7/
http://www.mp3-tech.org/tests/wma9/
Now.
Just say no to drugs and WMAs
Bedammit
read about MP3s
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565926617/flingerfcoman-20
fair enough... mp3 support out the box with Microsoft is pants... but then again the max is 96kbs is it not? wonder why... no anti competitive practices o fcourse... well why would that be possible ? you can pay MS an extra $20 and get 128kbs+
and yeah there are soooooooooooooooooooooo many better alternative players.. I like winamp personaly
It appears that crack is being dispensed on XDX-DEvelopers.com.
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so what you going to do ? sue XDA developers for providing a medium for users to copy/crack files on? I doubt that... its already been tried and the VCR companies won that one.
I dont see the XDA developers condoning piracy....
and anyways, newsgroups are so much better for that sorta thing *coff*
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Bedammit said:
Attn:
It appears that crack is being dispensed on XDX-DEvelopers.com.
Reports have been issued that an un-named source from Miami has stated that MP3s are better sounding than WMAs.
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hehehe, you guys are funny.
Nossie, I think he is reffering to the crack that you smoke, not the crack that you hack!
Ok, dudes, cool, to each its own, but we are talking about the tiny little speaker of the Xda!. I knew that the midis file were only 6 instruments, you guys want phone that can emulate AWE32/64????
NAME ONE PHONE that has that feature!.
You guys are making comparison between MP3, and WMA, yeah, in a regular, HI-FI speaker they might be a difference, but... ARE you planning to attach one to the itsy-bitsy XDA, just to hear a "HI-FI" ringtone???.
the only reason to choose WMA over MP3 or WAV, is for the size, which for a regular user sounds around the same each, but the WMA is smaller size.
another feature that the midi doesn't have is voices, and other real sounds, that only a WAV/MP3/WMA can make
Yeah, the midis are smaller, but how many midis are you planning to have? I have like 10 ringtones, and that's more than enough for me.
Of course, to each its own, if you like it.....go for it
anyways are guys planning to give a concert everytime the phone rings???
crack.. hehe...
reminds me or a girl in london.
Pants..
that too.
BTW ppl pants are underwear and if something is pants it sucks..
how strange.
Bedammit!
:lol: LOL
"And now with WM2003 is even better, since supports WMA, hence better quality. "
WMA better quality then wav hhhmmmm
that would be like saying that jpg looks better then uncompressed TIF's
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better quality compared to WAV....and smaller size
"better quality compared to WAV"
how would it be better quality then wav when wav is just raw sample data with a header telling if it's stereo, samplerate and number of bits ?
unless WMA support a higher bit resolution or samplerate
then it will be just another lossgiving noreflective transformation of sampled data like mp3 and ....
SIZE DARN IT, SIZE!
ok, tell me what you rather have, a 1MB ringtone in a WAV or a 100K Ringtone in a WMA
(now discuss with me that that is not the right number for the conversion)
for the Xda speaker phone, the ringtone would sound pretty much the same, the speaker of the XDA is a crappy speaker, a regular listener would not make a difference for it.
I guess I'm either deaf, or I am the only that has a crappy speaker on the phone, and your XDA phones came with HI-FI YAMAHA Surround sound speakers,and 10GB memory and you guys actually can tell the difference of the WAV/MP3/WMA on the phone.
In short, WMA is the best solution for saving ringtones on THE PHONE, is good enough quality and is reasonably small.
Remember guys, this is a forum for the XDA, not for the PC, so: there is no Winamp, no HI-FI Speakers, no lots of memory, no AWE32/64.
The comparison between the TIFF and JPG are not good, if you had to use your digital pictures and watch it ONLY in your camera (as the ringtone that you listen to it ONLY in the phone), you could use JPG anyways, and very little resolution, since the size of the little screen wouldn't matter to the eyes, (now you can dispute that you have not 20/20, but bionic vision, and that you see beyond human). If you were to make a ringtone, to use it in the PC, or some other hi-fi equipment, then yeah, all you guys comparisons will have avail, but again, the XDA speaker is not the best quality.
Is there an audio recorder in the Universal for recording lectures and other stuff? Can anyone recommend a good audio recorder for the Universal please?
Resco?
The built in Notes app has record function right? But well, ofcourse it's not that powerful
it does, and you can adjust the quality of the recordings in both resco and the inbuilt notes recorder.
however, you are really going to struggle trying to save entire lectures in audio due to file size.
You will need a big storage card.
simon_darley said:
it does, and you can adjust the quality of the recordings in both resco and the inbuilt notes recorder.
however, you are really going to struggle trying to save entire lectures in audio due to file size.
You will need a big storage card.
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Simon,
Are you using Resco Recorder on your Universal? If YES, a few question please. An hour of lecture would probably take about how much SD Card memory? I can store it directly to my SD Card right? Can you comment on the clarity and quality of the recordings using the Universal please.
To everyone: Thank you for responding. If any of you guys & gals still have any suggestions or comments, it would be nice before I go purchase Resco for my Universal.
cktlcmd said:
To everyone: Thank you for responding. If any of you guys & gals still have any suggestions or comments, it would be nice before I go purchase Resco for my Universal.
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Have you first tried the built-in one? Maybe it will suffice?
START>PROGRAMS>NOTES
Then MENU>View Recording Toolbar
You can set in options to save to SD Card
If ti is not enough, then go for resco
Jorgee said:
Have you first tried the built-in one? Maybe it will suffice?
START>PROGRAMS>NOTES
Then MENU>View Recording Toolbar
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When cuteangelica suggested it from notes I did not find it there, silly me, it is hidden. Looks like this will do the trick. Thanks again everyone for your patience. Saved me 20 bucks.
you can also access it by pressing and holding the voice dialler button next to the camera button.
resco is also for recording music from internet, and convets wav to mp3 and back, and also to extract or cut down wav and mp3 so you can use for ringtones.
resco can also let you reduce quality on conversion to reduce sizes.
but I use notes for simple recordings of voice.
I use NoteM, it works well, saves direct to SD card as MP3, and is free.
Cheers,
Steve
hi all,
I know that you guys put ton of mp3 on the miniSD card but do you guys use some tool to make the size smaller?
i can't imagine storing the mp3 in its original size (5M)..
If you have used some tool to make the size smaller without the audio quality degrading too much, please list your tools here.Thanks
Depends on quality minimum with mp3 for music is 128kbps, but I use wma which has an equivalent quality at 64kbps so uses half the space. Give it a go, windows media player will rip wma,s and you can compare quality.
Thanks...
I remember reading someone using some other tools to compress mp3 and play with tcmcp player...can't find it anymore
On another note, i use tcmcp for mp3 but it doesn't have any hard button mapping to Next, Fast forward...etc....
Tcmcp seems like a popular player here but how can people get on with this lack of full feature?
baraider said:
On another note, i use tcmcp for mp3 but it doesn't have any hard button mapping to Next, Fast forward...etc....
Tcmcp seems like a popular player here but how can people get on with this lack of full feature?
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Options/Settings/Select Page/Hotkeys
guttrhead said:
Options/Settings/Select Page/Hotkeys
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Duh...i didn't notice that select page...so lame.
So i have Mortsaver and tcpmp and i set all the buttons for tcpmp Next, previous...
but when i turn on mortsaver to make my 8125 a mp3 player, the buttons do not work anymore...some setting in mortsaver I need to set up?
I'm ready for another duh moment
I don't use mortsaver, so I can't help out there.
google for advanced WMA workshop...
great, try VBR (variable bit rate compression), this will make the program decide what bit rate to use depending on the quality of the original flie... use WMA format, you will end up with files that are 1/3 the sie of the original files with almost the same quality...
I am still waiting for my xda mini s, so I am not sure that WM player can play VBR WMA files
Regards,
Mohammad
Check out http://www.fenice.info/mp3reenc/readme.htm and also have a look at DB Power Amp (allows you to right click on an mp3 or a folder full of Mp3s and re-encode to a lower bitrate or wma).
Is there any app that will boost the audio quality (for ringtone, music, movies etc)?
also I have another question, I tried the 'anyfolder ringtones' tweak, I did it correctly but somehow it still points out to windows/rings/ any ideas?
thanks
Not sure how you mean 'boost audio quality' because if you listen with headphones you find the audio quality of the wizard very good. If you want to play music with your wizard - there is a very good stereo docking station that does the trick. If you mean try to get a better sound out of the small stereo speakers - then a rom upgrade may help. I noticed an improvement and that why i have stayed with my current rom for now. Also you could try a graphic equalizer to help with the sound = i use the core pocket player . some hacks on the forum that claim to make the sound louder but not better i think!
As for the registry hack - a better solution i think is to place your rngtones in the storage card\my documents folder and they show up in the list of available ringtones
oh thanks for the reply, I appreciate that.
Yea I found that core media player has a built in g.equalizer which in my case doesn't work too well. The problem is the treble sometimes can be too high, or the bass wouldn't come out at all. I have the latest rom, or could it be the headphone? I use the one that comes with it.
About the registry hacking. It doesnt work for me. Yesterday I tried it for hours but it just doesn't work for me. I have to find the solution though cuz I don't want to put all the ringtones and wallpapers in the phone's memory.
Is there any app that can do it fast and easy for me?
Refer this thread.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41273&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
HTH,
Sid
Back in the days of WM 6.1 on my other device I had a built-in notes sound recorder application that recorded wav files. In the wm6.5 roms it no longer appears to be included.
Does anyone know of a small footprint wav similar to the old one where I can choose the bitrate?
notem
Well off hand I've got nothing for you that does wavs but maybe you'd prefer something that does what you want but in mp3 on the fly, letting you adjust the bitrate and mono/stereo. Doesn't seem to let you record straight to wav but you can convert formats back and forth after a recording. Save a lot of space with mp3...
NoteM is the name. Give it a whirl and if it's not what you had in mind say so and I'll dig for something else.
HTG,
Doug
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I don't know how big the footprint is has and it isn't free but VITO AudioNotes does what you want plus in addition to helping you take your voice notes you can set it on voice activated mode to stash the phone somewhere and spy on people. $7
Now you may have zero interest in this but while we're on the subject you can use your phone as a multitrack recorder with MeteOR.
Microsoft Recite may be up your alley. IIRC it lets you take your voice notes and then you can later search for your old notes using your voice. That's about all I know about it. They discontinued it but I've still got a copy for you here.
Doug