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backlight, incoming call delay, and alarm bug

Cingular 8125
I have 3 issues...
1. The backlight seems to shut itself off every once in a while. I'll try to wake the phone from sleep mode only to notice there is no light, so I have to move the phone near a light source to see the dimmed screen and work my way to the backlight setting and increase it back to normal.
This happened once while I was driving
Is there a cure for this problem?
Also, I noticed spb pocket plus's backlight slider on my today screen does not work, nor do the shortcut commands it has for backlight up/down/loop etc.
2. When I was testing a new ringtone, I called my phone from another phone. I noticed it does not receive the call on the first ring. It receives it on the 2nd ring. I can hang up during or right after the first ring and not have it come up on my phone. Is this normal?
3. Alarm bug. This %$#@ lead me to hard-reset my phone 3 times already. When my phone is in sleep mode and an alarm triggers, sometimes the phone won't wake, but keeps playing the alarm. I wake the phone manually only to notice there is no alarm notification, but a flashing orange light and constant alarm sound and vibration. A soft-reset seemed to make the problem worse. Finally, I found a program called memMaid which lets me delete notifications and duplicate notifications etc. Is this the best method to cure this problem?
Thanks in advance.

With the backlight, do you have it on charge at the time of it messing up?
i've had this issue but only when the phone was on charge.
if i unplugged the phone, backlight came back and then i simply plugged it back in
other than that, no cure that i've found. what software version are you using?
for the alarm, not seen that, i have noticed that recently i've had the alarm apparently going off (but it hasnt!) and then almost 2 hours later, i have a msg saying "alarm" with the dismiss button and the time of when it was supposed to go off. very odd. luckily i have a nokia 6230i that i use as my alarm clock.
and for the calls... i have the same problem but only when i copy over my SMS back onto the device. after hard reset its fine, but as soon as my msgs go back, i think the phone mem gets slower. (i have 1600 sms now on the phone with about 300 contacts with pictures)
I have the same issue with sms where the phone will light up, 5 seconds after it recieves the sms... so i'm guessing thats the same as the phone side, it lights up on my end, 3-5 secs later it rings (which is eqiv to one ring on their side so it hangs up after 2 more rings).
very strange issues though, i hope softwre updates fix it because it is annoying me now!
also have an issue with my camera where if you dont X out of it, then dont expect it to load again unless you reset the phone. it just shows the "egg timer" and thats it. useless camera software but great pda/phone. again luckily i have a camera always with me anyway.

Only thing i have experience with this is for 1).
I still get that backlight problem.
It started happening when i installed PocketZenPhone beta.
After every soft reset, if i let the phone go into standby or the let the backlight time out, the backlight setting will go all the way to the lowest.
I don't know how to fix this bug, only thing i've done to sort with it is have a Today Screen launcher set up so that i have an icon that leads directly to the backlight setting, so whenever it dims on me, i'm 2 thumb pushes away.

Actually, this is the first time i saw this, when i installed zen on mine too!
It was then i realised that if you unplugged the power supply then replug it in, it fixed it
in the end, i got fed up of zen's stability or the lack off so i removed it, hard reset etc
it still happens but very rarely, and when it does, its just because i've turned it off and on while it was on the power supply

i have the same freaking problem with backlight. not sure what the deal is but very very annoying. is there a fix to this problem??

i have the same freaking problem with backlight. not sure what the deal is but very very annoying. is there a fix to this problem??

Mine had the occasional "backlight set to off" (i.e. pushing the 5-way would NOT turn it back on - had to use Control Panel applet) problem too. I never used Pocket Zen Phone on this phone (have on others in the past) but did use both SPB pocket plus and Phone Alarm.
I think the problem is somehow related to apps that try to control the backlight. As you've noted, SPB's backlight applets don't do anything, I think that PZP and Phone Alarm, as part of their attempts to control the backlight in their profiles mess it up somehow.
What i did was limit my profiles in PA to only two, and make sure both of them were set exactly the same way as far as controlling the backlight:
o Both profiles have backlight set to 50% all the time
o Both profiles set to power off the backlight at 3 minutes on both AC and battery
o Both profiles set to suspend the device at 2 mins on battery (so never getting to the "backlight only power-off" setting above).
o Having the backlight go dark on AC is new for me, but it keeps it consistent with the battery setting, but it's no biggie and if it ain't broke...plus if I touch any button it comes back on
I also removed SPB pocket plus and found some freebie utilities that do what I wanted from SPB.
So I'm not positive it's related, but doing these three things and i haven't had the light go dark since. Every once in a while after a reboot the light does go dark, but hitting any button or the 5-way brings it back so it's not the same "setting has been set to no backlight at all" problem I was having, and only seems to occur soon after a reboot, and then not again.
-JMS

i fixed my problem by flashing rom over with 2.17 US version.

Annoying ! Alarm rings but doesn't show. ie: can't stop

I used Alarm all the time and it was always working fine,
Since I emptied the battery a few days ago and manage to resucitate it (USB cable direct connection to battery) .. strangely the alarm now rings as usual, but NO Notification message is displayed.
Result = impossible to turn the alarm off ! :-(
Anyone had this behaviour before ?

Check your notification queue and remove anything that looks suspicious. It'd be wise to do a backup first.
V

there is no notification at all ..
in the queue.
I soft-reset and it still rings with no "notification" queue on the TODAY screen

How did you check the queue? You need something like Memmaid.
Also check your registry in the clock section to see if alarms are enabled/disabled.
V

I have just upgraded my OS since ...
O2 UK has it available now, so it fixesitself by the hard reset anyway.
thx.

Vibrate Problem

I have a fairly new 8525 (bout a month old) and the problem is it hardly ever wants to vibrate when I get a new mail message. It will at times, but it never wanted to vibrate upon receipt of a new email message. I just figured that's how it was supposed to be until I installed a trial of Wisbar Avanced and it had a setting for "vibrate" to turn on in it...and it worked like it should. It would vibrate anytime I got a new email, even if the screen was off, the device was locked, and i hadn't touched it in a while.
I removed the trial, and now I can't get it to vibrate at all....anyone have any ideas? It's annoying, I want my vibrate back!!!

LiquidHonesty said:
I have a fairly new 8525 (bout a month old) and the problem is it hardly ever wants to vibrate when I get a new mail message. It will at times, but it never wanted to vibrate upon receipt of a new email message. I just figured that's how it was supposed to be until I installed a trial of Wisbar Avanced and it had a setting for "vibrate" to turn on in it...and it worked like it should. It would vibrate anytime I got a new email, even if the screen was off, the device was locked, and i hadn't touched it in a while.
I removed the trial, and now I can't get it to vibrate at all....anyone have any ideas? It's annoying, I want my vibrate back!!!
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Well initially you need to pin down whether it's a software/registry setting problem or the fairly commom hardware problem.
Can you reinstall the trial of WA and see if this re-instates the vibrate function? I am of course assuming that the device is set to vibrate and that currently it does not vibrate under any circumstances including when st for phonecalls.
Mike

mikechannon said:
Well initially you need to pin down whether it's a software/registry setting problem or the fairly commom hardware problem.
Can you reinstall the trial of WA and see if this re-instates the vibrate function? I am of course assuming that the device is set to vibrate and that currently it does not vibrate under any circumstances including when st for phonecalls.
Mike
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Correct, it used to only vibrate if it hadn't been locked/asleep. With WA is vibrated as it should. Now it doesn't vibrate at all..........
I reinstalled WA real quick after you posted this to try, and yup, it vibrates like it should with it installed.

Well at least we know its a software issue. I'm using my TyTn to post this so a little difficult to do searches on registry settings for vibrate, but will check later or you could try searching meantime.
Mike

After searching the registry and such, no luck. Anyone have any other suggestions?

Unwanted time change

Hi,
Sometimes the clock on my HTC Touch HD is set at the wrong time. Sometimes minutes, sometimes several hours. This messes up my reminders and alarms; very annoying.
It think the clock is accidentally changed in my pocket; when I get a calendar reminder the phone turns on the screen. When I ignore the reminder and leave the phone in my pocket, the clock is big target to push accidentally.
I can think of several solutions:
-Lock the phone every time, which is annoying.
-Change some setting so the phone doesn't turn the screen on with reminders.
-Make the time/date change unavailable from tapping the clock.
Has anyone else ever encountered this problem?
And solved it?
Thanks!
Jasper

jasper_simons said:
Hi,
Sometimes the clock on my HTC Touch HD is set at the wrong time. Sometimes minutes, sometimes several hours. This messes up my reminders and alarms; very annoying.
It think the clock is accidentally changed in my pocket; when I get a calendar reminder the phone turns on the screen. When I ignore the reminder and leave the phone in my pocket, the clock is big target to push accidentally.
I can think of several solutions:
-Lock the phone every time, which is annoying.
-Change some setting so the phone doesn't turn the screen on with reminders.
-Make the time/date change unavailable from tapping the clock.
Has anyone else ever encountered this problem?
And solved it?
Thanks!
Jasper
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I managed to change the time zone and had a shock when I awoke one morning
normally I leave my phone locked
I use s2u2
which has the time and most everything else I need displayed upon it
that works for me

jasper_simons said:
Hi,
Sometimes the clock on my HTC Touch HD is set at the wrong time. Sometimes minutes, sometimes several hours. This messes up my reminders and alarms; very annoying.
It think the clock is accidentally changed in my pocket; when I get a calendar reminder the phone turns on the screen. When I ignore the reminder and leave the phone in my pocket, the clock is big target to push accidentally.
I can think of several solutions:
-Lock the phone every time, which is annoying.
-Change some setting so the phone doesn't turn the screen on with reminders.
-Make the time/date change unavailable from tapping the clock.
Has anyone else ever encountered this problem?
And solved it?
Thanks!
Jasper
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Ok, to answer your query:
-Easiest solution is lock the phone every time - why is this annoying.
-Change some setting so the phone doesn't turn the screen on with reminders - Go to Start > Settings > Sounds & notifications > and disable alarms/reminders
-Make the time/date change unavailable from tapping the clock - Not sure if this is possible
-Use SU2U

Problem remains
Hi,
Thanks for the replies so far!
I have downloaded and installed S2U2. With that app, locking is indeed no longer annoying (I meant that the built-in locking is annoying; press and hold the hang-up button, etc.)
About the reminders: I don't want to disable reminders and alarms; I just don't want the screen to be turned on so I can't accidentally touch any buttons when I leave the phone in my pocket.
But.... Even with S2U2, the problem remains. Last weekend I had the phone in my carkit (Brodit holder, absolutely no buttons pushed). And without ever touching anything, not even receiving a call, the clock just changed about 20min. all of the sudden. I now think it has to do with mail being synced: my work email through activesync and my gmail. It probably syncs the clock of either of those mailservers. But then I still don't understand because the clocks of both servers are correct. And if the would be off, it would most likely be by a fixed offset (probably full hours), not random....
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Jasper

Try a hardreset

jasper_simons said:
Hi,
Sometimes the clock on my HTC Touch HD is set at the wrong time. Sometimes minutes, sometimes several hours. This messes up my reminders and alarms; very annoying.
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I have the same problem. My clock changes without touching it in pocket or something like that. I thing it could be some sync error. I turn off automatic time zone switching, hope it helps.
Sometimes the clock is wrong after downloading emails. But I'm not absolutely sure yet.

Solved
After turning off all time sync, the clock is now going ok. For the last two weeks, no problem with clock settings...

Alarm Problem - Can't turn it off

Hi,
I have problem with alarm. I have setup 3 alarms. All are from monday to friday.
1. 5:45
2. 6:00
3. 6:15
So at 5:45 start ringing and swipe DOWN do not turn off alarm. I can't silence alarm, only way to do this is if I turn off phone. This hass happen on stock ROM, now when I have rooted rom and Im wipe all data is same.
Have someone similar problem? How can I fix it?
Thanks for any help.

why 3 alarms? You can set the option of longer snooze if u whish. you can also set the behavior of side buttuns during alarm.
Btw. I dont have any issues with turning off the alarm.

JaykaySLO said:
why 3 alarms? You can set the option of longer snooze if u whish. you can also set the behavior of side buttuns during alarm.
Btw. I dont have any issues with turning off the alarm.
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I need 3 larms because snooze is not option because I can by accident turn it off and sleep few hours more
Im set side buttons to stop alarm, but it do not do anything, but Im not shure if Im first swipe screen and then press side buttons...
Today I will test another alarm application and see how work...
Also I have everyday setup one backup alarm clock at 6:00 because I don't trust anymore phone alarm clock(cca. 3-4 years when Im start using smartphones: QTEK S100)

tried the 3 alarms option this morning. swipe-to-turn-off works normal. do you have any non default screen lock, etc aps installed?

JaykaySLO said:
tried the 3 alarms option this morning. swipe-to-turn-off works normal. do you have any non default screen lock, etc aps installed?
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No I don't have anything like that.
I have installed:
-Better Alarm Clock (On Stock ROM Im not use it but with this alarm clock alarms normaly work)
-CacheCleaner(On Stock ROM Im not use it)
-bMonitor Server Monitor (On Stock ROM Im not use it)
-Paper Toss (On Stock ROM Im not use it)
-Racing Live
-Virtual Beer Free (On Stock ROM Im not use it)
-GScript Lite (On Stock ROM Im not use it)
-BatteryTime Lite
-AndroZip File Manager (On Stock ROM Im not use it)
-Google Sky Map
-Speedtest.net Speed Test
-EStrongs file Explorer
-Smooth Calendar
-3G Watchdog
-Barcode Scanner
-ConnectBot
-Documents To Go (On Stock ROM Im not use it)
-Google Maps 4.1.1
This is all what I have installed. Now on rooted ROM I have also A2SD.

Please detail the actual behaviour and expected behaviour clearly.
It sounds like you are expecting, upon turning off the first alarm, the other 2 will turn off as well. Even if you untick/retick they will say "Alarm sounds in 15 minutes" (or the equiv.).

jayshah said:
Please detail the actual behaviour and expected behaviour clearly.
It sounds like you are expecting, upon turning off the first alarm, the other 2 will turn off as well. Even if you untick/retick they will say "Alarm sounds in 15 minutes" (or the equiv.).
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It is simple. At 5:45 start alarm beeping and I can't turn it off. I swipe down on screen to dismiss it but it do not stop producing sound. Only way to stop sound is turning off phone. I don't want when I "stop" first alarm that other two is stopped to, for this I can use snooze...
Im fix problem:
-Delete all alarms in STOCK Alarm clock
-Download: Better Alarm Clock
-Setup same alarms
And today on morning Im get dialog with dismiss and snooze button and Im normaly stop alarm...

me too
Sync yesterday I have exactly the same problem: can't turn off/snooze/silence the first alarm and I have to turn off the phone to stop the sound.
I'll root the device this weekend, I hope that will fix it.

dboy0911 said:
Sync yesterday I have exactly the same problem: can't turn off/snooze/silence the first alarm and I have to turn off the phone to stop the sound.
I'll root the device this weekend, I hope that will fix it.
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I currently use rooted ROM and is same so is not fix issue...

turn it upside down
I just use 1 alarm, when it goes off i turn the phone on its belly and its stops for x minutes. When I get up (turning it a few times) I turn it off...

I guess it is a BUG:
1. setup your phone for alarm
2. before the alarm started to be ringing, turn on the screen (wake it up by pushing the top button)
3. when the alarm starts to ring, drag down the slide button
4. enjoy the ring for ever )))
Reason:
when the alarm activated and starts to ring the sense not updated fast enough the slide down button. therefore the sense just "thinks" you want to unclock the screen, instead of adding the function next to it to dismiss the alarm

Had this happen to me this morning. Got an sms just before the alarm went off. After closing the sms box there was no way to stop the alarm, had to restart the phone. Very annoying.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

_Dejan_ said:
Hi,
I have problem with alarm. I have setup 3 alarms. All are from monday to friday.
1. 5:45
2. 6:00
3. 6:15
So at 5:45 start ringing and swipe DOWN do not turn off alarm. I can't silence alarm, only way to do this is if I turn off phone. This hass happen on stock ROM, now when I have rooted rom and Im wipe all data is same.
Have someone similar problem? How can I fix it?
Thanks for any help.
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I do the same with alarm, and this problem don't appear on my Desire.

Alaram Bug
I to am facing the same issue, is there any fix for this?

Happened to me this morning too, anyone knows if it works better with third party alarm installed?
I received an sms, handcent installed, coming back from bathroom it was ringing for about 15 minutes. I removed the battery...

That sounds like a pain in the butt . No idea of a fix but there are plenty of 3rd party alarms out there with much better functions than the standard alarm. better alarm clock , alarm clock xtreme and alarm clock pro v2 to name but a few .. they also have options to set a math question on wake so no need for 3 alarms a day plus can set lots of alarms with different times for different days . i use alarm clock pro and it removes the lock screen altogether wakes with the phone on main screen so shouldn't end up facing the lock screen bug!
There's an appbrain link to 2 alarms in my thread link in sig

had this problem once
switched to gentle alarm and fixed the problem

I have this same issue. About half the time, if the phone is in use in some form and the alarm goes off, there is no way to turn it off. Occasionally I get the snooze/dismiss option, but more often than not I end up having to shut the phone down to make it stop.
Would love to try any suggestions!