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Change Backlight Button to Camera flash light

Hi all,..
Is there a way to change the Backlight button on the universal so it activates the Camera light on the back of the device instead of turing on the backlight?
When possible the Universal becomes a pocket flashlight. Now when I want to activate the universal camera light I need to start up the camera software, It would be much quicket to just press the Light button to enable and disable the bright camera light. The Light button is now unuseful to me because the backlight automatticly turns on when tapping the screen, so no button needed...
anyone got a idea?
Best regards,..
Arjan

Now thats a damned good idea!! The backlight button is useless anyway.
Anyone here got the skills, I am afraid that I am just a lowly win32/KM developer...
Whats the best way to get into WM2005 coding?? Does it still require you to install 10,000 toolkits, or does Visual Studio 2005.net have the nessesaries? (if work ever sorts out our MSDN sub that is!)
Nigel

Paging buzz_lightyear! Paging buzz_lightyear!
buzz_lightyear to the rescue!
..... please?

As an almost entirely unrelated aside, you guys know that my program VJLumos, for the superbright screen, works on the Universal?
Doesn't make that much difference because it already has a nice screen.
V

Hi Buzz,..
Seems you know all about this schit. Can you tell uss if this is possible?
Regards..
arjan

vijay555 said:
As an almost entirely unrelated aside, you guys know that my program VJLumos, for the superbright screen, works on the Universal?
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True, true... but the camera flash is trully bright!!! Even more than the screen!
I've checked the Win32 Mobile API and found nothing, so the solution must be in one of the HTC DLL's!
Disassembling Camera.exe in IDA didn't give big results neither... :?
I'll continue my reseach and post the results here!

Just wanted to keep this close to the top of the forum,
I would love this feature! Please please pretty please
Regards, Simon

Me To
would be great to have a portable flashlight with me all the time

Still triying, but until now, no success...
buzz_lightyear, can you give a hand here?

Realy hope anybody can find it out because this would be really great!!!

But can it be fixed?

Will this be possible?
not that I really know too much about all this kinda stuff, but MortPlayer refuses to recognise the button with a lightbulb on it even if you use the option that allows you to specify a hardware button by pressing it. Does this mean that this button is somehow hidded frm WM5 or am I being silly?
//Xi

MusicPlayer can recognize the button, I think it takes it as some kind of function button (F4 or F6 or something like that), so is definitely possible to use it.

I actually use it, after adding it to the registry. The button code is C8, so you just have to copy paste another button, and change any CX occurence to C8.
Key is HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Shell/key/40CX

OK, so that's taken care!! Now to find HOW the camera turns the flash light on... I'm sure it's some kind of API..... :? :?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e..._7effd1fa-1b3e-41ba-b176-42cb16dae7d4.xml.asp
i think this is done at driver level....
we might need to hook up with the camera driver dll, disassemble it and get the function names....
and then, need to write an app which will link up the dll at run time and call the fn....
apart from that, theres no simple way to do so using MS provided sdks for wm5....
S

dreamtheater39 said:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/still/hh/still/WIA_PropTable_7effd1fa-1b3e-41ba-b176-42cb16dae7d4.xml.asp
i think this is done at driver level....
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I agree!! But I don't think that WIA is something to go thrue, since that applies to Win32 only!

That link was from the Desktop Windows DDK. The windows mobile DDK is a different beast.
I suspect the API will be similar tho. I very much doubt whether the camera app is going to directly call an IOCTL down in kernel mode to control the camera light (that would be crude!) It will be doing so via a user mode API. The key is going to be to find which DLL handles this and what the function name and format is!
Unfortunately although I write Desktop Windows drivers, I have not got the first clue about windows mobile programming - dont even know what tools to install!
Nigel

Just noticed something very odd: WM2005 emulator does NOT have camera.exe!!!
Camera.exe is the picture taking app on the WM2005! Where the hell is it?? Only on real devices (my Exec has it)?

ei99070 said:
Just noticed something very odd: WM2005 emulator does NOT have camera.exe!!!
Camera.exe is the picture taking app on the WM2005! Where the hell is it?? Only on real devices (my Exec has it)?
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the wm5 sdk has the camera api exposed...however, no luck finding anything related to the flash light
i think its something htc has directly hooked up.
horrible MS they have to goof up somewhere ..... :evil:
i guess some disassembling is needed
buzz...where r u dude???
San

Program to turn on Flash (LED light_

I would like to be able to program one of the buttons to turn on the flash, it takes too long to sometimes open the cammera so I would like to get the flash to go on.. (and on the brighter light also).. any ideas, links?
thanks
e..b

Nope - no solution as of yet. Your best bet is to go to the following thread, and choose "Watch this topic" at the bottom.. then just follow any updates to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41642&highlight=flashlight - VJCandela - torch/flashlight on HTC Phones
Just to make this clear - at the time of this writing, vijay's utility does not work on the HTC Wizard. If anybody has an HTC Wizard to spare to send to him, he can probably make it work

any news on this one ?
or has anyone an idea where to look in the registry for it ?
i really like to have a litte prog or shortcut key for the flashlight to
function as a flashlight

vj has one

if you would read then u should have noticed this little part of text which says: vijay's utility does not work on the HTC Wizard.
offcourse i tried it and many others and even tried to alter the program
but since no-one knows what keys involved i thought i might bring this to
attention... hopefully someone will try and find this out as i think many
people would like to have this feature.

Flashlight using camera "flash" without launching camera?

Ok, I'm probably gonna get flamed for this... heck I'm probably gonna flame myself for this
Is there an application to turn on and off the so-called flash on the camera without launching the camera app itself? In other words is there a simple way to use my $500 phone as a $0.50 LED light?
TIA,
Richard

try VJCandela ...... where? google knows it .....

k4sus said:
try VJCandela ...... where? google knows it .....
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I thought that used the screen backlight - I specifically want to turn on the LED flash on the camera side...
Nope, I'm wrong - looks like it does exactly what I wanted:
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJCandela
I'll have to try it on the TyTn....
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
Richard

VJLumos for screen brightening. VJCandela for flash. VJPlumBum for stupidity.V

vijay555 said:
VJLumos for screen brightening. VJCandela for flash. VJPlumBum for stupidity.V
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Hello vijay, is there any chance to have it working on Asus P525?, this ppc has the facility to record video with flash on.
I been trying your candela but dosen't work.

I can look into it - but it's not a device I've ever used so unlikely. Can you get me a rom dump? Thanks... V

Works!
vijay555 said:
VJLumos for screen brightening. VJCandela for flash.
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Got it, and another confirmation that VJCandela works on the Hermes. Thanks for an awesome app!
vijay555 said:
VJPlumBum for stupidity.V
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I might need two of those
Richard

vijay555 said:
I can look into it - but it's not a device I've ever used so unlikely. Can you get me a rom dump? Thanks... V
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Can you have a look on here please :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279777
or here
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P525/P525_V3320_WWE2nd.zip
I think that it will be enough for you, but please advice if you need more info.
Cheers mate.

also looking for a program for this. hope vijay can help us.

it says that doing this will cause permanent damage to the led

What does?
Leaving the flash on for too long will cause the flash to blow on some devices. Some guys have had it running for days. Some have blown it after a few hours.
I limit its use to 30 seconds I think, in VJCandela. However, you should use it with your own caution. But now, it won't blow your flash with a single use or whatever.
V

The LED is obviously over driven to make it bright enough for use with the camera and in normal use it is restricted to only short bursts.

PDA Paul said:
The LED is obviously over driven to make it bright enough for use with the camera and in normal use it is restricted to only short bursts.
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With P525 if you are in video mode you can hold the led illuminated, so i think that if you don't use it for very long time the led will not be damaged.

Hello there vijay...
a question for you regerding vj candela and hermes...
you may have already noticed that when you use the flash light in hermes to take a picture with default camera apps...then the flash light up bit more (say double) brighter for a few second just in time of taking the picture...
so my question is it possible in ur apps (vj candela) to use that extra doubled light rather then the normal brightness??? its just a request i know that turning the flash in high mode may shorten the life span of the bulb but i just interested to see the implimentation...
and one more request...can you add a feature in ur vj candela so that when we use the hardware mode lightup then the screen brightness will turn it off automatically and will reverd back after the flash get off...
anyways thanks a million for what u have done for us all..
br.
Sajib

Maybe that's why this is damaging some devices, because it's using the brighter mode that only works in bursts with the camera.

Actually, I just did some quick testing using the ambient light sensor on my macbook pro (how's that for resourcefulness?). It's not exactly scientific, but whatevs.
I read the value of the ambient light sensor from the camera flash from a height of 10". This test was done with a Cingular 8525.
Turning on the flash in the camera program: 1024
Light from VJCandela: 1024
Light when turning of flashlight mode in the camera settings: 1200
Light during flash: 1450
So it appears that my theory was wrong. If anything, the camera flashlight is stronger than the regular flash mode. Although I suspect they are exactly the same - like I said this wasn't exactly a scientific way of testing...

Sorry, not sure if I understood the thread - the Camera app/Flash driver has a "burst" flash mode, a normal flash mode, and and off mode.
Burst flash is brighter then normal flash, and is used in the instant that you take the photo - this normally causes the screen to go off for a second though. My app uses "normal" flash mode, which should be safe for relatively short periods (eg 1 min). Burst flash is for a few seconds max I guess.
V

Any suggestions as to why when I try to download the cab file it opens the cab file in pocket ie? all I see is the text that makes up the file

timbouk said:
Any suggestions as to why when I try to download the cab file it opens the cab file in pocket ie? all I see is the text that makes up the file
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Yeah, that bugged me when I first got my 8525. Try holding your stylus on the link and selecting "Save As," instead of just clicking on it.
Regards
Ben

Is there a mortscript that will...

Hey I'm looking for a mortscript that will check the status of the reg keys for new sms and new voicemail every 5 minutes or so and if the count is greater than 0 it will play my notification again (or any wave if that's easier) I had a search and could only find the treo alerts but that's more than I'm looking for.

i think than can be done....i will look into it tonight...if someone does not beat me to it...lol

Hey sorry it took me so long to get to this but i have been very busy and i wanted to make it just right. so here it is.
This script Checks for new sms and vmail every 5 min and plays any wav file you have specified.
First have mortscript installed then
simply extract the folder in this zip file to anywhere on your device. then run setnofitications.mscr and enter the full path(EX:"\examplefoler\examplewavefile.wav"(don't enter quotes)) to a wave file you would like played for vmail and sms. it will create a new folder in your programs menu called extra notify and place shortcuts to turn this feature on and off to configure it and to remove the shortcuts. it will also place a shortcut in your windows startup folder so to activate itslef at every boot. Hopefully this works as well on your phone as it does on my phoe(different phones like to act different)
UPDATE:For anyone who already has v0.5b run remove to clear the old shortcuts(i changed the names of them so it wont all work right if you don't do this before extracting the new files) then simply exract these files to the same place you have the current ones. then run upgrade.mscr to migrate your old notifications to the reg entries and run setnotifications.mscr to configure the on and off times. I'm leaving v0.5b up for now in case v0.8 causes issues. Report back on functionality. Anyone using this for first time follow steps in this post befor update.
let me know if you have any problems
Version History
V0.8
changed the way variables(configurations) are kept
added option to specify time to have notifications tunr off and back on
Cleaned up scripts to make them esier to work with
(i think that's it lol)
v0.5b
removed message when device boots up
V0.5
Notifications will now play even if device is in sleep mode.
V0.1
Initial Realease

Awesome! Thanks so much.
Not to be a pain but I should have mentioned that it would be great if it didn't run between certain times. That way it won't be keeping me up all night.

You can just use kaisernotification its a program that lets you customize the LEDs and also this feature is under "repeating alerts"

mssmison said:
Awesome! Thanks so much.
Not to be a pain but I should have mentioned that it would be great if it didn't run between certain times. That way it won't be keeping me up all night.
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ok i w have a look at that...i'm sure it's possible i will just have to figure it out. give me a few days on this to make sure i get it right.

Awesome!
Thanks a tonne, I'm a little suprised no one has done this before.

mssmison said:
Awesome!
Thanks a tonne, I'm a little suprised no one has done this before.
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yhea me 2...maybe they have but i don't mind doing it....i'm still learing mortscript so this was a great learing experience.

Grondinm said:
yhea me 2...maybe they have but i don't mind doing it....i'm still learing mortscript so this was a great learing experience.
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You're a mortscript power house! I'll be using this one when it's done

Grondinm I promise you'll reach Nirvana if you manage to do this script!

I always wanted to do that also (lazy i guess), but now eventually I included it in my startup script.
Beside the missed calls or sms the script keeps bluetooth off unless needed (by GPS or handsfree).

Well done folks, now that's turning out to an interesting thread!
Until today I did just a few stupid scripts to perform soft-reset or setVolume, but with your scripts for reference I'll try to learn a bit more.
Just a question: where is the delay time instruction? I see a few "sleep" and don't know which is the right one.
Keep up the good work, MortScripters!

carrozza said:
Well done folks, now that's turning out to an interesting thread!
Until today I did just a few stupid scripts to perform soft-reset or setVolume, but with your scripts for reference I'll try to learn a bit more.
Just a question: where is the delay time instruction? I see a few "sleep" and don't know which is the right one.
Keep up the good work, MortScripters!
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the last one. sleep(30000)has it sleep for 5 min before it checks again. the other sleeps are just to have it sleep for a fraction if theire is nothing to do....it would work without those...theire is also one for it to sleep 1sec between the check of sms and vmail so that both sounds don't play at the same time. Funny i started out the same way. making little scripts for text messaging purposes and volume and orientation.

Ha... I think any scripter started off like that. My first one went abd changed all of my reg settings, and copied clock and wallpaper, for s2u2. Saves plenty of time when updating

xd1936 said:
Ha... I think any scripter started off like that. My first one went abd changed all of my reg settings, and copied clock and wallpaper, for s2u2. Saves plenty of time when updating
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My first script went around and deleted random registry entries and files... Wasn't too productive, but worked well!

well it's working but apparently I'm not inputing the path properly.
If the file is in the windows folder for example is my syntax //windows/blah.wav ?

mssmison said:
well it's working but apparently I'm not inputing the path properly.
If the file is in the windows folder for example is my syntax //windows/blah.wav ?
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no the path would be \windows\blah.wav

I think it should be "\windows\blah.wav"
EDIT: Grondimn got there first! Ignore this post!

OK, here is the script I made, quite the same as previous examples posted before by very good people.
I just added MMS notification and tweaked delay (90 seconds for me).
Just a question: what do you think is the overhead of the device with this script running?
I mean: here we have a WHILE loop running continuously on the device. Are there "best practices" that a skilled programmer would use to make CPU and memory consumption as low as possible?
check=1
while(check=1)
sms=regread("HKCU" , "\System\State\messages\sms\unread","Count")
mms=regread("HKCU" , "\System\State\messages\mms\unread","Count")
call=regread("HKCU" , "\System\State\Phone","Missed Call Count")
if(call > 0)
playsound("\Windows\Alert-Tonic.wav")
sleep(1000)
else
sleep(100)
endif
if(sms > 0)
playsound("\Windows\Alert-Chime.wav")
else
sleep(100)
endif
if(mms > 0)
playsound("\Windows\Alert-Chime.wav")
else
sleep(100)
endif
sleep(90000)
endwhile

carrozza said:
OK, here is the script I made, quite the same as previous examples posted before by very good people.
I just added MMS notification and tweaked delay (90 seconds for me).
Just a question: what do you think is the overhead of the device with this script running?
I mean: here we have a WHILE loop running continuously on the device. Are there "best practices" that a skilled programmer would use to make CPU and memory consumption as low as possible?
check=1
while(check=1)
sms=regread("HKCU" , "\System\State\messages\sms\unread","Count")
mms=regread("HKCU" , "\System\State\messages\mms\unread","Count")
call=regread("HKCU" , "\System\State\Phone","Missed Call Count")
if(call > 0)
playsound("\Windows\Alert-Tonic.wav")
sleep(1000)
else
sleep(100)
endif
if(sms > 0)
playsound("\Windows\Alert-Chime.wav")
else
sleep(100)
endif
if(mms > 0)
playsound("\Windows\Alert-Chime.wav")
else
sleep(100)
endif
sleep(90000)
endwhile
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Well i don't think memory is a big concern in this case cause the script file in only a few hundred KB and for cpu usage it is sleeping between the loops. i'm no programmer and i'm sure a experienced programer might find some flaws in this but it works for me and does not seem to be very draining.

[REQ] LED Control.

Fellass:
I have recently checked out a vid of the X1, and it had a neat feature:
Some app to control LED lighting behavior.
-The circle led lighting in the Diamond is Awesome. Best Ive seen. Such bright white light. Taking control of these LEDS would be niceee.
Any ideas? guyzz?
Greetings to all thanks.

i second that it wood bee cool to change
kinda like funlights on motorola phones

An application that makes the ring blink to musicbeat would be cool

yeah... like the old sony ericsson e398;-) awesome light effects when playing music^^
Regards

UP!
I have searched everywhere for an application that can do this...
Can anyone help us?

i will also like to have app for this

why do no clever people/deveopers reply to these???!

+1
BUMP.....
I would like this as well

ahh this would be so awesome

nuerom has a program like this that controls the led lighting. he also has one for the keyboard.

saf100792 said:
nuerom has a program like this that controls the led lighting. he also has one for the keyboard.
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who is neurom and how do i contact him?

NueLED2 i didn't try it but i like to share and may someone can get this to work
nueLED2 is not… anything like what nueLED was. The idea was to avoid the intermediate DLL that caused issues with devices in nueLED, while creating an interface any application could use. So nueLED2 has no user friendly interface.
But on the bright side, it does allow individualized control of the LEDS on the Touch Pro / Diamond control pad. You could use the included nueLED2_Control app with mortscript or some other script to control individual leds. Also, nueLED2 is open source, so feel free to add to it or use it in your application, just drop a line if you do. I’ve added a .NET wrapper to make it easy to add to your .NET app
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/

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NueLED2 i didn't try it but i like to share and may someone can get this to work
nueLED2 is not… anything like what nueLED was. The idea was to avoid the intermediate DLL that caused issues with devices in nueLED, while creating an interface any application could use. So nueLED2 has no user friendly interface.
But on the bright side, it does allow individualized control of the LEDS on the Touch Pro / Diamond control pad. You could use the included nueLED2_Control app with mortscript or some other script to control individual leds. Also, nueLED2 is open source, so feel free to add to it or use it in your application, just drop a line if you do. I’ve added a .NET wrapper to make it easy to add to your .NET app
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/
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Thank you for your reply friend.
Now I have to understand how to use mortscript...

I found some other codes. The readme of nueLED2-22-v2.0 said these where known:
2: Home
4: Pickup Phone
8: Back
16: Hangup Phone
32: Center Button
Mine is more complete:
1: All on
2: Home
4: Pickup Phone
8: Back
16: Hangup Phone
32: Center Button
128: Flash center button every 12.5 sec
256: charge cycle
512: same as 32
2048: center button counter clockwise
Maybe someone can do something with this, would be great!

If somebody could come up with a mortscript or any info on how to get these working would be great, i want to have a script to use in WAD2 so when i press a button the center circle flashes.

ANYBODY
Is there anybody still fancying this great Idea originally thought by Sergio PC????
It seems this Thread is quite forgotten.....

I've always been thinking about making a thread like this. One of the main things I would like it to do is change the amount of time between when it flashes when you have a new sms. I think it flashes every 3 or 4 seconds if you have a new sms but I would rather it be every 1 second so that i can quickly just glance at it to check if i have a new text. I know it would use a bit more battery but it will be a lot more convenient for me.
Really hope someone makes an app for this, it seems like there are a lot of apps to change things that aren't even worth changing but then something which would be really useful like this, there is no app for

AdamHC said:
I've always been thinking about making a thread like this. One of the main things I would like it to do is change the amount of time between when it flashes when you have a new sms. I think it flashes every 3 or 4 seconds if you have a new sms but I would rather it be every 1 second so that i can quickly just glance at it to check if i have a new text. I know it would use a bit more battery but it will be a lot more convenient for me.
Really hope someone makes an app for this, it seems like there are a lot of apps to change things that aren't even worth changing but then something which would be really useful like this, there is no app for
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+1! it sounds great....anybody else?

Looks like this thread is probably just going to die again like it did last time...But I really want this app lol