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Cingular data plan options?

I have an old AT&T converted Cingular account that I originally got with an SMT5600 smartphone. I have been using it in a HTC Wizard for the last year.
I looked at the Cingular version of the Hermes yesterday, and I an tempted to upgrade, but I kind of balked at the data plan cost! the want $40 a month now! I have been paying $25 for unlimited data, and now they want to almost double that!
Has anyone tried, and been successful, putting and old SIM from AT&T or Cingular into one of these - keeping their current old data plan and being able to use 3G speeds?

Bertil said:
I have an old AT&T converted Cingular account that I originally got with an SMT5600 smartphone. I have been using it in a HTC Wizard for the last year.
I looked at the Cingular version of the Hermes yesterday, and I an tempted to upgrade, but I kind of balked at the data plan cost! the want $40 a month now! I have been paying $25 for unlimited data, and now they want to almost double that!
Has anyone tried, and been successful, putting and old SIM from AT&T or Cingular into one of these - keeping their current old data plan and being able to use 3G speeds?
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I have with no problems I have the old Blue ATT SIM with the $24.99 unlimited mMode plane works great in my TyTn with 3G

The biggest factors in considering one plan over the other are the following:
- do you use Cingular's proxy
- do you use WiFi (which doesn't play well with the proxy settings)
- do you use Exchange ActiveSync / PushMail
- are you a big SMS user
- do you care about Cingular Video
- do you need access to ISP.CINGULAR (as opposed to WAP.CINGULAR), which includes a static ip address
PDAConnect (39.99/mo) needs no proxy and works better with PushMail, but does not include SMS or Cingular Video. This is the better plan for me personally.
I say try using the cheaper plan and see how it works for you...

marka2k, you just made my day!
That's great news...
... Maybe the really sneaky thing to do would be to go with any new (free) Cingular phone, get the 19.99 per month plan, and then switch....

goestoeleven,
I'm OK with current functionality, I would of course not mind the higher speed. I never use WiFi really.
I've heard that the Cingular connection works better than the old AT&T for things like radio streaming...

Bertil said:
marka2k, you just made my day!
That's great news...
... Maybe the really sneaky thing to do would be to go with any new (free) Cingular phone, get the 19.99 per month plan, and then switch....
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You won't get any new Cingular phone while staying on old AT&T plan. You'll have to buy an unlocked phone elsewhere.

I was referring to buying some generic Cingular phone with their 19.99 plan, and then buying a Hermes unlocked.

get the free phone
Bertil said:
... Maybe the really sneaky thing to do would be to go with any new (free) Cingular phone, get the 19.99 per month plan, and then switch....
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actually, that's what I did. I got a free RAZR phone (good for when I drive the motorcycle). I am on the MEdia Net plan for $19.99 that includes 200 SMS (and/or MMS). The MEdia Net plan works just fine with my unlocked TyTN.
The issue with the proxy is easy to work around. Set up the My ISP connection without the proxy, and the Work connection using the proxy. If you need the proxy, just go to IE and connect to wsp://device.home IE will then connect using the proxy & you can go from there...

from my experience they have never made me get the pda connect crap, i have always had the media net unlimited.. actually i just upgraded my data plan to the extreme that includes the 3k text and i even told them i had the 8525, they said ok and that there is promo where the first month is free and added it to my account

I have a few accounts, one of them being a legacy AT&T Wirelss plan.
The way I look at is, there is no reason to pay $480.00 a year($40.00 a month for 12 month) for a pda connect plan if you do not need the isp.cingular apn or the need to bypass the proxy server.
IMHO, I would buy the device at full retail, keep your AT&T plan and over the long run, save money on not upgrading to CNG and not paying for incoming txt messages.
Dan

Thanks guys!

So it sounds to me that I could take a SIM card from one of my smart card, with the $19.99 unlimited data plan and use it on my 8525. Of course it would now have that phones number. Is this right?
Thanks

Fishdave said:
So it sounds to me that I could take a SIM card from one of my smart card, with the $19.99 unlimited data plan and use it on my 8525. Of course it would now have that phones number. Is this right?
Thanks
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your number is stored on that card, doesnt matter what phone its in (as long as its compatible with your provider)

cingular data plan
I signed up for new service and got an 8525. the media max and plans showed up as options. now with cingular online acct management, I can sign up for smartphone connect (i have) or media max plans, or pda connect for 20 more. the cingular proxy is only needed for connecting to their media net servers. so far I haven't needed or wanted to do that. there is a guide on how to set it up in the forum somewhere as a separate connection.
my download speeds from dslreports wap site are 650-800k. sometimes I have a long wait to download a page, but I think it isn't related to the data plan.
I haven't had anyone from cingular try to make me get pda connect, and i'm pretty sure it won't change the data service quality on my phone.

i just run the My Isp connection and it dont use the proxy, i have a regular unlimited data plan, i average over 400meg a month in data alone and all for the low price of the media max bundle, isnt life great

Anyone got a more detailed FAQ on the ISP settings?
I'd like to know what the differances are, addresses of the proxies..
ETC..
I've been trying to read up on everything..
Thanks!
J

Proxies Proxies Everywhere...
I have an 8525 with the default Cingular Settings.
First off.
Do I need the Proxy Settings?
I don't use any of Cingulars Services, nor do I care to.
I would like to use WIFI more if it worked right. (seams to be the Proxy Issue)
I do use the Web, Connect to servers and other machines, and basically do everything I do I my computer (at least everything I am able to do)
I also travel in Europe at times..
Or if I need one am I able to setup a Proxy Server of my own?
Any Benefit?
Or If I have to use a Cingular one is there a difference between the ISP.CINGULAR.COM, WEP.CINGULAR.COM and the WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM
Thanks
-J

goestoeleven said:
- do you need access to ISP.CINGULAR (as opposed to WAP.CINGULAR), which includes a static ip address
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I've contacted Cingular regarding the Static IP previously. They told me that the Data Plan Unlimited (which I'm on now) does not come with a static ip, that I share my IP with other users. This was a great let down for me, as I've seen other companies provide this with absolutely no problems. Would you be able to direct me on who I need to talk to, or what I need to say, to get this enabled on my account?

I do the 39(think it is 39 second from top unlimited plan).
I pay extra for text messages and save 5$ from the higher up plan (which does come with more messages, but I never use them).
My question is, for $5 more a month would I gain anything else to make it worth paying more?
Not sure what use a proxy and static ISP would be over what I use now.
Thanks in advance!
Q

AMEN Shogun, i use the mediamax 1000 plan. i used it with the 8125 and when i had a Nokia 7710. Never had any problems at all. Even tho when i bought my 8125 the guy in the store swore up and down that there was no way the mediamax would work on that phone. He told me i would be back to change it after a week. lol. I told him to just leave my account alone. i need to check out this 3k plan kuzz i need more text

T-mobile wap will not work after flashing dutty's 6.1 rom

I've spent countless hours on the phone with T-mobile customer care, days searching the net. I tried basically every single setting possible and no matter what I do I can't connect to the internet or send MMS on my Tilt at all. Does anyone have any Idea how to get wap or mms working for t-mobile on windows mobile 6.1?

zinamike said:
I've spent countless hours on the phone with T-mobile customer care, days searching the net. I tried basically every single setting possible and no matter what I do I can't connect to the internet or send MMS on my Tilt at all. Does anyone have any Idea how to get wap or mms working for t-mobile on windows mobile 6.1?
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I'm hoping that you already have a data plan, if not then you might want to add it by calling the Tmobile or just add it by logging through the website. This is what I use on mine:
Go to Start>Settings>Connections>Add or Manage new connection and on Access Point Name (APN) wap.voicestream.com and hit next and just click finish.
Good Luck

thanks for the help

I had the 5.99 t-zones package which worked fine on windows mobile 6.0. After flashing 6.1 It wouldn't work and I do have the access point set to wap.voicestream.com, I'm not one to just post a question without doing my research. I tried numerous different settings and followed numerous tutorials but nothing works. I finally resorted to ordering the $19.99 Internet package and oddly it works just fine now, instead of using the access point wap.voicestream.com I changed it to internet2.voicestream.com for the 19.99 internet plan. It sucks however that I have to pay 15 dollars a month extra to enjoy what I paid only 5.99 a month for before. The reason why I don't switch back to WM 6.0 is because I have grown accustomed to the threaded sms and it's a feature I really don't want to give up. I know there's threaded sms application but nothing can compare to having it built in. If anyone has a fix for this or can give some idea's please do. I'd much rather revert back to paying 5.99 a month as opposed to the 19.99 I began paying a month today.

this is a cab file I made for the tmo $5.99 plan and arscsoft mms 4.2.8.1. It works on my wm6 rom. Maybe it'll work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2237367&postcount=1

joemanb said:
this is a cab file I made for the tmo $5.99 plan and arscsoft mms 4.2.8.1. It works on my wm6 rom. Maybe it'll work for you.
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I will give it a try now, I have to call T-mobile and have them switch me back to the 5.99 plan. I've got my fingers crossed.
::EDIT::
After I installed your .cab file and had t-mobile switch my plan to the 5.99 t-zones it now WORKS!! Flawlessly. Dude you don't know how many threads I came across with so many people that had the same problem and just could not get this working. Maybe you should make it's own thread for this that I can link people to with the same problem, that way you'll get the credit for you work and people from other forums can be directed to xda-developers.
Again thank you for this, I really appreciate it!

Good Idea, I originally posted these in Lurches thread but he has removed his, and these were buried pretty deep.
new thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2237367&postcount=1
Glad it worked for you!

Cannot connect to Jamaican GSM Network anymore..help
I cant seem to connect to gprs and make or get calls any more! I am using htc p4350 wm6. The phone was working great from Dec 07 until lastnight i cudnt connect to the internet or get any calls. I contacted my service provider who informed me that i will need a BB connect that is compatible with htc p4350 to browse because the access point i was using has changed. Do u know where i could find BB connect for htc p4350. and if so do i need to configure an access point within BB connect to browse tHe internet. i am a little confused please help. I'm actually living in Jamaica and my service provider is Digicel Ja.(GSM)

T-zones Proxy is it dead?

Haven't been able to connect to the internet for a couple of days. Can still retrieve emails from my accounts but no internet, has Tmo finally shut the door on the 5.99 data plan?
Or is there a new setting that i need?
TIA

Harry Tuttle said:
Haven't been able to connect to the internet for a couple of days. Can still retrieve emails from my accounts but no internet, has Tmo finally shut the door on the 5.99 data plan?
Or is there a new setting that i need?
TIA
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I have T-zone package and everything still works. Check out this post and grab the 5.99 cab. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395203

Thanks will try it, is this the same .cab as Lurch's?

Guys I need help with tzone settings.
I have HTC Touch Pro and have 9.99 web2go plan.
It was working fine but since last 2 weeks I am not able to use 9.99 data plan.
In order for data plan to work on my HTC Touch Pro I had installed tmobyjoe599 cab
Any help is appreciated.

worked ........... with
internet2.voicestream.com
I used the tmobyjoe599.cab for the $9.99 web2go plan
what I had to change is from wap.voicestream.com. to: internet2.voicestream.com
rock on...........

Tmobile us htc hd2 unlocked for use on at&t

I bought the US version of HD2 today and unlocked it.
What do i have to do to use all the features and functions on AT&T's network? I would like my email, internet, weather, stocks to work. Any tips? I am able to make only phone calls right now and would like to start using all the other features. Thanks in advance for all your help.. also, i have PDA plan already..

I also unlocked the HD2 and am using on AT&T and had the same problems. I could make calls and had internet access for the first day, but had to do a hard reset and when it came back up I could only make calls. There is a fix though. Go to:
Settings>Wireless Controls>Data Connection>Add a new modem connection
Under "Enter a name for the connection" type: Media Net
Select a modem: Select Cellular Line (GPRS), then hit next
Access Point Name: wap.cingular, then hit next
Leave blank user name, password, and domain, then click finish.
You won't get 3G access this way (only Edge), but you should now be able to access AT&T's Media Net data plan and browse without problems. This worked for me anyway.
If anyone knows how to get 3G speed, please share!

AT&T forcing 30$ smartphone data plan
Hi,
I also unlocked my t mobile HD2 and put my at&t SIM card in it. AT&T recognizes my device as blackberry 7290 and automatically added 30$ smartphone data plan on it. Also, they did not help me set up the edge network which i finally did by myself. Anyways, is there a way to put only 15$ data plan on it?
Thanks,
Vikrant

gpbroa said:
If anyone knows how to get 3G speed, please share!
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Buy the Telstra one, that's the only way you'll get 3G sorry to say. Wish US carriers all use the same frequencies.

Guys, how you unlocked the phone?
I got a unlocked T-Mobile HD2 and try to use HSPL2 to flash this moble, but the message tell me "wrong model ID".
I don't know what to do.

vikrantrai01 said:
Hi,
I also unlocked my t mobile HD2 and put my at&t SIM card in it. AT&T recognizes my device as blackberry 7290 and automatically added 30$ smartphone data plan on it. Also, they did not help me set up the edge network which i finally did by myself. Anyways, is there a way to put only 15$ data plan on it?
Thanks,
Vikrant
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Can someone tell me how do u unlock your HD2? I need to do the same for my TMOB HD2. Thx

conchuot said:
Can someone tell me how do u unlock your HD2? I need to do the same for my TMOB HD2. Thx
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Ok, all i had to do was call Tmobile to get the unlock code for my phone. i downloaded the MediaNet cab file, installed it and everything is working great except the Visual Voicemail which i understand because it is strictly developed for Tmobile.

varungandhi said:
I bought the US version of HD2 today and unlocked it.
What do i have to do to use all the features and functions on AT&T's network?
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You do realize that:
A. There's a separate forum for the T-Mobile HD2?
B. You could've bought an HD2 (Telstra version -- T9193) that's compatible with AT&T 3G?

I am also interested to learn of any way to avoid paying the $30 data plan instead of the $10 one. Anyone? Anyone? I looked at the option of changing the IMEI but will not go there after learning it is illegal. I'm ok with edge on at&t but not if I'm paying $30 a month.

audichris9 said:
I am also interested to learn of any way to avoid paying the $30 data plan instead of the $10 one. Anyone? Anyone? I looked at the option of changing the IMEI but will not go there after learning it is illegal. I'm ok with edge on at&t but not if I'm paying $30 a month.
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Register a feature-phone with AT&T and get them to switch the data back to $15.
Also, any Blackberry IMEI they're registering is wrong as nobody sells/uses a BB 7290 anymore.

NuShrike said:
Register a feature-phone with AT&T and get them to switch the data back to $15.
Also, any Blackberry IMEI they're registering is wrong as nobody sells/uses a BB 7290 anymore.
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NuShrike or anybody, Do you have specific experience with switching down to the $15 data plan? Whether the 7290's are in use anymore or not I'm thinking that AT&T is going to switch me right back to the $30 data plan when I make a call from my HD2(BB 7290 to them).

audichris9 said:
NuShrike or anybody, Do you have specific experience with switching down to the $15 data plan? Whether the 7290's are in use anymore or not I'm thinking that AT&T is going to switch me right back to the $30 data plan when I make a call from my HD2(BB 7290 to them).
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I'm technically still using my Sony-Ericsson on my grandfathered data plan, and have never been upgraded to the $30. I also stay under ~100MB a month so ymmv.
I've read all over HowardForums this is the way to get back in to $15. Just make sure you'd NEVER registered your HD2 IMEI with your account on AT&T by telling some rep, or such. Otherwise, you're SOL because you've publicly admitted to them that it's a "smartphone". Don't do any communication with at&t using your HD2. Get a pay-go and swap in your current sim if you need to.

So far so good. I've made it almost 24 hours with a $10(when added to family unlimited messaging) data plan. Anyone know if I should be in the clear or do they only sweep weekly/monthly?

I have been wanting to try and see if I can buy a pay as you go plan and phone then just swap out the sim in my T9193 and all be fine without them catching on to what phone im using and terminating my data? Anyone ever done this before? The first time I tried pay as you go I told them what phone I was using and shortly after the data was terminated because I was using the nexus one so I was stuck with unlimited minutes and no data.

A friend of mine received his unlocking code today, and on his AT&T customer online page... it showed that he had that ancient BlackBerry model as well.
However, they didn't automatically switch his data plan. I told him to basically call, but NOT from the device, and to demand the unlimited data plan, but not for the iPhone (which is what he had previously) so we'll see whether or NOT they ask too many questions about the device he's currently using.

airdragon said:
Guys, how you unlocked the phone?
I got a unlocked T-Mobile HD2 and try to use HSPL2 to flash this moble, but the message tell me "wrong model ID".
I don't know what to do.
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Flash HSPL2 and new ROM wouldn't help to unlock the sim. That's what I did. I ends up fax the request to Tmobile where I got my phone at full price. They send me the code few hours ago.
good luck.

how many digits did u have in your unlock code ?
thanks,

armrob said:
how many digits did u have in your unlock code ?
thanks,
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8 digits for t-mobile HD2 unlock code.

I am using it with ATT, its unlocked from tmobile, I got the att cab, just install this, and it puts the media net settings on the phone
The only problem is sometimes in my email, or google maps, it will say something about a connection problem? Anyone else have those issues?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kmlmn4wt35m/ATT_WAP_MEdiaNet_and_MMS_Settings (1).cab

I am using it with ATT, its unlocked from tmobile, I got the att cab, just install this, and it puts the media net settings on the phone
The only problem is sometimes in my email, or google maps, it will say something about a connection problem? Anyone else have those issues?
Also ATT thinks im on some old nokia phone, and I have the $15 unlimited data plan hahaha, they never know the difference unless you pull wayyy to much data, so don't tell them what phone you have
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kmlmn4wt35m/ATT_WAP_MEdiaNet_and_MMS_Settings (1).cab

[Q] Tmobile smartphone data plan not web connect ?

I searched and I can't seem to get a clear answer. If I unlock a Tmobile tab can I use a smartphone data plan or will it still be blocked by imei and take me to the Tmobile sign up page ? I'm looking to buy one from craigslist but want to make sure there's a way to use a smartphone data plan not web connect. Thanks!

No, you MUST have webconnect to make it work, and the plan is pretty cheap by $/MB, and hotspot sharing is FREE!!!

iHTC said:
I searched and I can't seem to get a clear answer. If I unlock a Tmobile tab can I use a smartphone data plan or will it still be blocked by imei and take me to the Tmobile sign up page ? I'm looking to buy one from craigslist but want to make sure there's a way to use a smartphone data plan not web connect. Thanks!
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Are you a T-Mobile customer? if so you do not need to unlock the tab. There is a way to use a regular SIM (T-Mobile) to have access to the web without being re-directed to the T-Mobile sign up page. It involves doing something to the IMEI so it is unblocked. Can not post the steps here as it is a violation of the forum rules, but rest assure that it can be done as i am a T-Mobile customer and use the tab with both Voice+Edge......

mingkee said:
No, you MUST have webconnect to make it work, and the plan is pretty cheap by $/MB, and hotspot sharing is FREE!!!
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sorry to miss-inform you but you are incorrect, you do not need a webconnect plan.

adinis78 said:
Are you a T-Mobile customer? if so you do not need to unlock the tab. There is a way to use a regular SIM (T-Mobile) to have access to the web without being re-directed to the T-Mobile sign up page. It involves doing something to the IMEI so it is unblocked. Can not post the steps here as it is a violation of the forum rules, but rest assure that it can be done as i am a T-Mobile customer and use the tab with both Voice+Edge......
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I dont want voice just 3G data but I have a data only plan sim for smartphones it is not webconnect and on a non hacked tab it didn't work

iHTC said:
I dont want voice just 3G data but I have a data only plan sim for smartphones it is not webconnect and on a non hacked tab it didn't work
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well you could always still try the IMEI work around to c if it works......

Thanks for the tip I'll give it a try