internet on the PPC at work and home - Networking

Hi,
I have a o2 xda neo.
I've been trying to get internet working at both home and work through different settings. After lots of problems, i've done a hard reset and will try again.
Perhaps you can help with the correct settings, as I do not understand this whole Activesync 'the internet' / 'My Work' etc network settings.
I have my neo sync'd to my work pc. Fine. And when I use 'work' on the connection setting, then the internet is also fine on my PPC. HOWEVER, it updates my 'my work' settings on the PPC with my works proxy server ip etc.
OK, i understand that makes it work ok....
But my problem comes next. I want to set my o2 GPRS settings up. And they should go under 'my work' and I need to enter the o2 server IP in there.
But I can't because my work settings are there!!?!?!
So, I have to chose, do i want to use only work settings or only gprs settings...
How can I have both?
- when at work, it has internet fine.
- and on the move, i can use GPRS fine?
A million thanks in advance!
egg

egg said:
Hi,
I have a o2 xda neo.
I've been trying to get internet working at both home and work through different settings. After lots of problems, i've done a hard reset and will try again.
Perhaps you can help with the correct settings, as I do not understand this whole Activesync 'the internet' / 'My Work' etc network settings.
I have my neo sync'd to my work pc. Fine. And when I use 'work' on the connection setting, then the internet is also fine on my PPC. HOWEVER, it updates my 'my work' settings on the PPC with my works proxy server ip etc.
OK, i understand that makes it work ok....
But my problem comes next. I want to set my o2 GPRS settings up. And they should go under 'my work' and I need to enter the o2 server IP in there.
But I can't because my work settings are there!!?!?!
So, I have to chose, do i want to use only work settings or only gprs settings...
How can I have both?
- when at work, it has internet fine.
- and on the move, i can use GPRS fine?
A million thanks in advance!
egg
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maybe i'm to simple, but i only use Internet settings and don't use @work @all.
And it works fine everywhere, @home, @work, via GPRS and via WiFi. Have you tried this?
and why would you put your gprs setting under Work?

Extremely sorry no one has replied to your post with a solution yet, I maybe too late but I only joined this forum yesterday.
You want multiple Network settings with independent Proxy settings and IP, DNS etc right??
Go to Start>Settings>Connections>Tap connections >go to the "Advanced" Tab. Tap "Select Networks" Here you are given 2 Choices of Network settings you can use. Work Network and Internet (or ISP). You have your work settings saved on Work network so do not edit that. choose the other one and edit it to enter all your GPRS settings. and save as your gprs connection. Now if you want to add a third independent setting, from the select Networks tab, click on new and you can create a third Set of connection settings (for your home maybe). Your PPC can handle 2 simultaneous connection settings perfectly, ex. 1 for Pass through and 2 for GPRS. But each time you want to connect to a third or different setting, you just go to the "Advanced Tab"> select Networks> tap the pull down options menu and select the other connection set that you would like to use et voila it is that simple.

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Internet through Activesync and pc

hi...
how do i set the XDA II to access the internet through my PC via active sync, if i try it logs onto GPRS...
any ideas on which settings i might need to change. i cant see an option to link to activesync 3.7
i have win2k and adsl
thanks
maxd
oops sorry i posted in the wrong forum...
Hi,
One thing to check -
On activesync on your PC select options - rules , make sure you have selected your internet connection in the connection drop down.
I dont remember having to change any settings on the device ...
Hi,
One thing to check -
On activesync on your PC select options - rules , make sure you have selected your internet connection in the connection drop down.
I dont remember having to change any settings on the device ...
still not working..
hi.. thanks for the help..
i have internet in the connections drop down selected. i still cant get internet explorer to connect to the internet through my pc, it still tries to connect via WAP and GPRS..
should i settup a connection through a proxy server... how would i do this..
thanks again for any help
Tony
Hi Tony,
I definitely didn't set up a proxy server on my XDAII, so I'm pretty sure its not that.
Have you got a connection set up to use the GPRS connection on your XDA - under start - settings - connections tab - connections . I have a connection called 'My ISP' , which when I click on 'manage existing connections' has the modem set to use a GPRS connection. Again I don't remember setting this up, so it may be something O2 install from the rom. Try a reset and see if it picks anything up.
One thing I would suggest you do get when you are using GPRS is some sort of traffic monitor. I use Spb GPRS monitor (via Handango) and its well worth a tenner.
Hope this helps
Hi i just got my XDA2 today and I too can not get onto Internet through Activesync and pc just tries to call up on gprs
I have tried the above suggestion still no luck
Can any one help
I can connect to the Internet from my XDA II via the ActiveSync connection on my desktop PC. The connection was configured automatically by the XDA II when I first synchronized it with the desktop PC. The XDA II even automatically configured the proxy server setting to the one I use at the office.
Go to Start->Settings, select the Connections tab and click on Connections. On the Connections window, there should be two connections listed on the Tasks tab. Select the Advanced tab and click on the Select Networks button. On the Network Management window, the first drop-down list should have your GPRS connection selected and the second drop-down list should have your ActiveSync connection (My Work Network) selected.
Thanks Jargon got mine working now
Jargon said:
On the Network Management window, the first drop-down list should have your GPRS connection selected and the second drop-down list should have your ActiveSync connection (My Work Network) selected.
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Ive have seemed to have lost the MY Work Network item in the dropdown
can any one help it was there on friday before i finished for the weekend , came in mon morning pluged in the xda and it dont want to let me cnnecet to the interner trew the pc
henny said:
Jargon said:
On the Network Management window, the first drop-down list should have your GPRS connection selected and the second drop-down list should have your ActiveSync connection (My Work Network) selected.
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Ive have seemed to have lost the MY Work Network item in the dropdown
can any one help it was there on friday before i finished for the weekend , came in mon morning pluged in the xda and it dont want to let me cnnecet to the interner trew the pc
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Just follow the same directions I have already given. But instead of selecting the missing "My Work Network" connection, create a new one by pressing the "New..." button below the second drop-down list. Name it "My Work Network". Then select the "Proxy Settings" tab and check the "This network connects to the Internet" checkbox. Click on "OK" to close the window.
Jargon said:
On the Network Management window, the first drop-down list should have your GPRS connection selected and the second drop-down list should have your ActiveSync connection (My Work Network) selected.
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Thanks it worked

More than 2 connections and Connection Manager

I'm using an XDA2 with the latest public ROM version from O2.
I have three GPRS connections that I use - the Internet, a work VPN, and WAP.
For day to day work I tend to use just the Internet and work VPN. Sometimes, however, I also use WAP.
Is there an easy way of connecting to WAP WITHOUT having to go into the connection manager and change my Internet settings from the Internet connection to the WAP connection?
Or, is there a better Connection Manager out there that can handle more than 2 connections?
Or, finally, is there a way to detect that a WAP connection is needed, and connect as required?
An alternative would be a program that allows you to, with the click of a button, select the two connections that you want to use (i.e. profile 1 is VPN and WAP and profile 2 is VPN and Internet).
Thanks!
I have exactly the same problem.
Too many operations to change the connection!!!
Someone any ideas?
Same here .. Having the same issue ..
It is inefficient to change the connection through Conn Manager ..
Perhaps can we do it through registry change? i.e. create several registry files, and just click the one we need when we want to connect to certain profile ..
Tried to look through the registry setting for Conn Manager, but it is confusing, they are using so many {436EF144- ....}, {18AD9FBD- ..} thingy
Maybe some expert can help here?
Thanks
Back From The Grave!!!
I was wondering the same thing!
I hate to say it, but the iPhone does wifi much simpler than Windows Mobile -- just flick a software switch and you're on, no changing settings, and no changing back when you go offline.
It's over 10 taps in Windows Mobile to do the same thing! I know there just HAS to be a simpler way to do this!
you can make you life a easier if you create a shortcut of the remnet.exe (inside the windows directory) to the start menu folder
rename "shortcut to remnet" to "connections"
Hello,
i've been searching around the web for a definitive explanation of the communication settings (Wep, Wap, GPRS, Internet, ISP, Wlan, etc.) in WM2006.
I can usually fiddle my way through setting something up, that seems to work...but i never know exactly why or what i did!
Now that i've got the HTC tytnII with built in Wlan this has become even more complicated.
For example, sometimes when i have an active Wlan connection and am surfing the internet, the phone connection pops up and asks me to connect via GPRS (Wap or Wep).
This is something that i've been confused about for some time anyway: how doese the unit know which way it should connect to the internet when i start an application?
IN any case, i've now been searching for a definitive explanation of the various settings contained in WM6.
Is there somewhere a good explanation of how it all works, so that i can understand the various settings?
Thanks in advance for any help....
tjohnso1 said:
Hello,
i've been searching around the web for a definitive explanation of the communication settings (Wep, Wap, GPRS, Internet, ISP, Wlan, etc.) in WM2006.
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Same here, I'd also like to know the difference.
For example, right now I seem to be able to configure a specific network connection to use for my Gmail synchronization. However, this ranges from 'The Internet' to 'My Internet', and just don't forget 'Work'.
Having a more profound understanding of these 'networks' and how to properly configure them is vital in this day where devices can also connect to the net using USB/ActiveSync and Wifi.

proxy config APP ?

Anybody know some application that can configure proxy (use ou not) in each connection?
I use proxy for GSM data connection to work remotly (work network), but when connect by WiFi or GPRS I don't use proxy and have to enter configuration connections to disable...
Can I assign proxy settings to each connection?
Thanks
i had the same problem as well, do a search for proxy and you'll find it, also go to start>help and search proxy and it will tell you there.
fone_fanatic said:
i had the same problem as well, do a search for proxy and you'll find it, also go to start>help and search proxy and it will tell you there.
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But, do you know any software that can do it???
I know configure proxy any time but i want an app that can do it for me (in each connection)!
Thanks
Change which network each connection uses (ie work, internet - make more of your own) then each one can have different proxy settings.
Beeble said:
Change which network each connection uses (ie work, internet - make more of your own) then each one can have different proxy settings.
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Hello,
But at WiFi connection I can't, because there is not any modem config.!
Anyone?
Thanks
arp said:
Beeble said:
Change which network each connection uses (ie work, internet - make more of your own) then each one can have different proxy settings.
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Hello,
But at WiFi connection I can't, because there is not any modem config.!
Anyone?
Thanks
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Settings, connections, connections, advanced, select network, NEW "make profile for WIFI use eg wifi"
Settings, connections, network cards, select AP, "connects to" wifi
steeings, connections, connections, tasks - edit porxy for "wifi"
Hope it helps
Ok, this thread is a little old, but it is close to what I am looking at.
I just got my bill from O2 and I have been charged £1.50 for "GPRS data" although I think it is actually MMS messages being sent or received by GPRS. I am guessing this is because it is set up incorrectly by me.
I did have it set to collect MMS over the "mobile.o2.co.uk" settings (as opposed to the "wap.o2.co.uk" settings) and wifi could be enabled, but if I tried to use the browser without enabling wifi it automatically dialled the GPRS connection.
Could someone give me an idea on how to set it so that
A) MMS messages only count as MMS messages and are sent and received by GPRS.
B) WiFi is the preferred connection for everything else.
C) GPRS is available if WiFi is not available (and preferably after getting confirmation from the user), ie I dont have to find the settings and re-enter them.
I realise this is probably not possible, but any help and/or pointers are appreciated.

WiFi and proxy

Hello,
I have HTC Touch, and I'm trying to connect to wifi with ISA proxy.
First, I connected to home wifi (no proxy) and accessed internet without problem.
At work we have Radius etc. but I also connected, and I can surf to pages inside company (no need for proxy), but I can't get out to internet.
Any suggestion would be great!
tnx
small update: looks like I was surfing at work through usb cable, not wifi. But now I can't even connect to wifi at work, which I could before. Funny things going on, I'll reset.
Update2:
Newest status is: wifi connected, can surf internal sites, but can't go outside company network.
I suspect that IE is not going through the proxy at all. Which implicates that I don't know how to setup IE to use proxy on WM6???
If you edit "My Work Settings" thru Settings -> Connections -> Connections you can edit the proxy settings there. Then you say "connect to internet" thru "My Work Settings". I may be wrong, but I think you need to reset the pda as well...
OK, here are my settings:
under settings-connections-connections, advanced - select networks:
"Programs that automatically connect to Internet should connect using:" My Work Network.
When I click Edit, under Modem, there are no entries.
Under Proxy settings, "This network connects to internet" and "this network uses a proxy.." are both checked.
"Proxy server" field is disabled.
Under Advanced:
Socks line has serverort next to it. Others are empty. Server and port are good.
I click ok on all and go to IE. Type www.google.com, it says "Locating.." and that's all. Internal web sites are opening ok.
I tried to turn it off, and back on.
Tried google, not working.
I checked all settings once again and tried then, still nothing.
This is a common problem and I have not found a solution for it myself yet.
The proxy settings are lost when you apply them, and the SOCKS server settings behaves weirdly.
Anyone knows what can be done?
i want to know how to do this too... my school is also using the same system.
still no update
no update ??
configfree from Toshiba
Dear,
I had an old E800 from toshiba where configfree is installed. With this program I can configure proxy for wifi in 10 sec and it works.
does someone know where we can find this program for other PDA. I want to try it on my Cruise.
Vincent
I'm also having the same issue. Can anyone help, please?
From my experiences I can tell you: THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE HTC AND HTTP PROXY FOR WIFI RUN. Neither with WM6.0 nor 6.1 nor a special brand nor the original firmware.
I have tried to inform HTC support, but I'm extremely pessemistic, that at least one will care. It seems to be not a WM related problem, because my WM6 ASUS doesn't have that issue.
There is a work around for browsers only: Don't use Pocket IE, use Minimo, because this browswer has it's own proxy setup. But it doesn't help you much, if you want to use other applications.
EDIT: Just to inform you, what happens, if you upgrade to WM6.1: The proxy settings are kept (HURRRAY) ---- but ignored completely It's _that_ brain damaged...
Regards
neil.young said:
From my experiences I can tell you: THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE HTC AND HTTP PROXY FOR WIFI RUN. Neither with WM6.0 nor 6.1 nor a special brand nor the original firmware.
I have tried to inform HTC support, but I'm extremely pessemistic, that at least one will care. It seems to be not a WM related problem, because my WM6 ASUS doesn't have that issue.
There is a work around for browsers only: Don't use Pocket IE, use Minimo, because this browswer has it's own proxy setup. But it doesn't help you much, if you want to use other applications.
EDIT: Just to inform you, what happens, if you upgrade to WM6.1: The proxy settings are kept (HURRRAY) ---- but ignored completely It's _that_ brain damaged...
Regards
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I can confirm the same "symptoms": proxy is totally being ignored on WM6.1. However, they're kept when you close the settings.
neil.young said:
From my experiences I can tell you: THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE HTC AND HTTP PROXY FOR WIFI RUN. Neither with WM6.0 nor 6.1 nor a special brand nor the original firmware.
I have tried to inform HTC support, but I'm extremely pessemistic, that at least one will care. It seems to be not a WM related problem, because my WM6 ASUS doesn't have that issue.
There is a work around for browsers only: Don't use Pocket IE, use Minimo, because this browswer has it's own proxy setup. But it doesn't help you much, if you want to use other applications.
EDIT: Just to inform you, what happens, if you upgrade to WM6.1: The proxy settings are kept (HURRRAY) ---- but ignored completely It's _that_ brain damaged...
Regards
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Proxy over WiFi works for me and has done with my previous HTC Wizard and now with my Kaiser. I have checked with a sniffer that I am definitely using the proxy over port 8080 (MS ISA 2006).
I have explained this before but this is how my device is setup.
ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Centre - Connection Settings set to 'This computer is connected to: Work Network' - Setting this to Automatic or The Internet deletes any Proxy Settings on the device when you connect it.
WiFi. My home WiFi SSID Network set to 'Connects to: Work'
Connections. 'Tasks' tab - Two settings 'My ISP' & 'My Work Network'. Advanced Tab, Select Networks. Top settings 'Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using: My ISP'. Bottom settings 'Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using: My Work Network'. Under 'My ISP' I have the GPRS details for my carrier (Vodafone). Under 'My Work Network' I have a proxy defined with the Advanced settings configured - HTTP set to my proxy with the port 8080 and Socks set to my proxy with port 1080.
That's it and has worked for me since Windows Mobile 6.0 appeared for the Wizard. I used the same settings when I first got my Kaiser with WM 6.0 and now with WM 6.1 (more or less stock 5.2.19212) and it has worked every time.
Andy
there is always one way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690963
WiFi and Proxy
There are too many wifi connection in the present. But the best thing is to choose the right one. Can you tell me to choose the right one with no Proxy service. Thanks

WM6.1 Networking

I'm sorry to bring this up again folks, I have read and searched forum for similar threads but am still confused.
I find the WM6.1 network connections interface very confusing. Can anyone tell me step by step how to setup vodafone?
Should it be setup as part of "My Work Network" or as its own "Vodafone Live" ?
When I set it up, I still want my phone to use my WiFi connection at home as default, and only use vodafone live if I specifically tell it to. Is this possible ?
Under Netwotk Management
Surely "programs that auto connect to the internet" and "programs that auto connect to a private network" would be one and the same no ? What about when we use our private network to connect to the internet (via router etc) ??
as I say, I find the entire windows mobile networking system a mess, very confusing and have never gotten vodafone live working properly.
btw, my phone is HTC Touch HD
Many thanks for any desperately needed help
Update...
If I setup the phone to use just "My Work Network" under both "programs that auto connect to the internet" and under "programs that auto connect to a private network"....
and then manually setup vodafone under the "My Work Network" device as follows...(using my local vodafone settings)
1. add new modem connection
2. name it (vodafone etc)
3. select modem to cellular line (gprs, 3g)
4. enter apn "live.vodafone.com"
5. username and password - "vodafone"
6. under "My Work Network" setup proxy as 10.24.59.100
7. under advanced set socks to 10.24.59.100:1080
Then it works. I can disable wifi, enable data connection and browse the internet.
THE PROBLEM here, is that if I go into college, and use my phone over their wifi, the proxy server gets changed thus disabling vodafone all over again.
So, it works if you set it up manually under the "My Work Network" device. But I need it set it up as a seperate device so that the proxy doesnt get messed up. I have tried editing the auto created "vodafone live" device, it just wont work. I tried editing the "my isp" device but that has no proxy setting.
Can anyone please help me make any frickin sense of this. ?

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