I just transferred my O2 contract SIM from my Alpine (XDA2i) and the Universal (XDA Exec) is showing "Invalid or missing SIM card".
I don't know what the problem is, it shouldn't matter if the phone is locked or not (I think) as they are both from O2.
What can I do?
The old SIM should work I believe but ask customer service to send you a 3G SIM, which you will want anyway.
It seems to have fixed itself.
I do only have a normal GPRS SIM, not a 3G one - does this mean I can't video call until I get a 3G one?
Thanks.
Well if your SIM is not a 3G one, you won't get UTMS for data nor Video which needs it I believe.
Okay, thanks.
I don't think I'll bother getting a 3G SIM for a while, if the phone will still work with GPRS. I'm in no rush to video call, and another SIM will cost me £10
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There is big problem with my XDA Exec, when I dial a tel No. it is Dailling and the Call end. The 3G sim card is work well on another mibile, and another GSM sim card is work well on the Exec, but the O2 3G sim card can not work on my Exec, could anyone give me some advice on in, thanks.
If you have a Data only plan then you may not be able to make calls. I think you need to ask O2 to activate voice calls. I have the same problem, but I only use my Exec for web & email as I don't trust it to operate as a phone!
jah said:
If you have a Data only plan then you may not be able to make calls. I think you need to ask O2 to activate voice calls. I have the same problem, but I only use my Exec for web & email as I don't trust it to operate as a phone!
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Thanks
But the problem is that the 3G sim card can be uesd on another mobile for any voice call.
I will try to ring o2 for some solution.
I have ring O2, but they can do nothing and will change another sim card for me.
The 3G sim card can be used on my Moto V3, dial and receive
The normal GSM sim card can be used on Exec, dial and receive
But the 3G sim card can not be used on the Exec, can not dial can not receive, anyone can help me with that.
Thanks in advance
mobile, which tariff/plan do you have? If you have a Data plan and you can use your 3G SIM in another 3G phone (I don't have an unlocked one that I can use) then I may have a faulty SIM as well
jah
My tariff is 200 cross network, everything is ok for last noght.
I have change the sim card with mu V3, now all working. maybe it is the problem with the 3G option
the problem was solved.
I change the network to GSM, then everything is fine. It that means there is some proble with o2 3G netword?? :?:
Hi, I upgraded from an xda2 to a xda exec and wish to use umts for data. I phoned o2 up and they sent me out a new sim which they said is 3g/umts enabled. When the sim arrived it looked like my old one. I think I remember reading somewhere on here a while ago that the 3g enabled ones have 3g written on it, this one didnt. I tried it anyway to see if it was just a change in printing etc, and it still just picks up gprs. I dont live in an area covered by o2 3g so I travelled to an area that is (as shown on their coverage map) and still no 3g. What I was wondering is if there is anyway to identify a 3g sim as im wondering if somwhere between tech support and despatch they got mixed up and sent me a normal sim.
Thanks
Just to confirm, I have an O2 3G sim card, and do get the UTMS service when in the right area. The Sim card does say 3G on it in a kind of way... the card number has xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxx 3GS2 as the card number and the copper side has GEMPLUS etched in it.
Hope this helps.
Was playing around last night with bits I had not looked at on my universal before, Sim Manager in programs, actually tells you if its a 3g sim and how many phonebook\text messages etc the sim can hold.
regards
I've just got an Exec as a free upgrade to my beloved XDA II so I phoned O2 to ask about their 3G service.
In short, if you get an Exec from O2 you should also be given a new 3G SIM for free. If you haven't, call them to say you haven't and they'll send one. No reconfiguring of the Exec is necessary (they say). I'm guessing this doesn't apply if you're a pre-pay client, but who knows?
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(I suppose I'll have to change my name to 3Goldry soon...)
I don't think a new SIM is required for 3G access... I had a Vodafone Pay&Go SIM well before I got my V1640, and it works on UMTS.
Yes you do require a sim that is compatable, although it is possible your existing one will support the UTMS, if not simply call in to the O2 shop and they will give you the SIM for free, activate it and away you go....
Huge bills - stupidly expensive access charges, but a super quick connection - oh - and did I mention the battery life, UTMS kicks the cr*p out of your battery, I have seen mine decrease even when connected to the car charger - Mike
some theory
3g requires a thicker sim card. You eill not be able to use 3g band with a standard gsm sim. hence no video calling, etc.
its a fact, ie - its a standart.
igs said:
some theory
3g requires a thicker sim card. You eill not be able to use 3g band with a standard gsm sim. hence no video calling, etc.
its a fact, ie - its a standart.
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3G is a thicker SIM? I've not noticed any difference with my T-Mobile SIMs..?
O2 have different SIMS for 3G and GSM. The 3G SIM has some extra information on it which means that a GSM SIM in a 3G phone will not allow 3G data.
I went into an O2 shop and they charged me £10 for a new 3G SIM which they then registered to my account and threw away the old one.
rgds
£10 for a new SIM? That's a joke! I might just go back to Vodafone then in that case...
I just had this with Orange.
I bought a SIM from a market stall for £5 thinking that it would be cheaper than going to Orange for it.
I put it in my Uni, got it all registered and everything was fine until I asked 450 why I wasn't getting a 3G icon.
I had to go to the Orange shop, pay another £5 for a SIM (USIM, 3G SIM) and then ... The fun started.
I put £20 on the USIM when I bought it, it was pre-activated. I took it home, phoned 450, got them to change the number from my old SIM to the new one. I asked if the £20 would be credited accross and he said "yes, within 24 hours".
I waited and it didn't appear. I phoned 450 and the nice gentleman in India told me there was sweet FA he could do to help, go see the Orange shop.
I went to the shop and they told me that ev erything had been done wrong, that they shouldn't even sell USIMs without a new 3G phone to go with it.
I got my £20 back though and am now fully 3G (when in coverage).
The USIM isn't any thicker than the 2G SIM, but it is a different color.
So you're saying that the orange SIM card was meant to be free? Or were you not meant to get it at all?
I think the virgin 'normal' free sims can be enabled to be 3g simply by sending a message to 80310 with the word “Video” but o2 use special seperate 3g sims. From what I understand there is extra capacity on the newer 3g sims but for current 3g services we don't need them hence why virgin's can be enabled.
I have o2 sim and am planning to be off on my travels so am in the process of setting up my universal (xda exec) to use a virgin sim in this as you can roam in Japan only on a 3g sim.
Let us bare in mind that these most extreme cases are pay as you go deals where its "not subsidised"....
If anyone puts some marketing sense into it it will be clearer to understand what all the comotion is about.
Eventually all charges for sims etc on paygo will be waved.... for the moment its a matter of choice.
BR
There's no such thing as a 3G SIM.
Yes there are different SIMs available (with more on-board memory) but at the end of the day they all have to fit into the same SIM shaped hole in your phone.
The handset and features on your account determine whether or not you can access 3G.
actually there is a specific SIM for 3G. It is same shape and size but does not work in older 2G phones..... However, 2G SIMs all work in most 3G Phones
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actually there is a specific SIM for 3G. It is same shape and size but does not work in older 2G phones..... However, 2G SIMs all work in most 3G Phones
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Not entirelly right m8...give it a try if you have one and you will see I have my o2 rg sim and works fine on other 2g phones...that also goes for another PAYGO 3g vodafone card that i got hanging around...obviously when it comes to three uk its a diferent story since they do not offer a gsm service and rely on 02 lines where there is no coverage from them and this costs them money.
BR
Hi, I have a unlocked Wizard & my T-Mobile contract has just expired, I was just wondering if a 3G sim (3) would work in it as there are some cheap deals on that network? I wouldn't use it for video calls so thats not a problem.
im 99% sure they DONT! however maybe someone there can prove me wrong
I'm using a Cingular 3G SIM in my 8125 with no problems at all.
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I'm using a Cingular 3G SIM in my 8125 with no problems at all.
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a cingular 3G sim and a "3" UK usim are not the same, one runs at 3 volts (sim) and the other at 5 Volts (usim)
Aha! More than I knew! I knew it! Thanks for correcting me..
i was having problems going on line when i first got my wizard, tried everthing even customer suport couldnt figure it out. well i finaly went to store to exchange my unit and one of the reps asked to look at the sim. sure enough thats what it was i didnt have a 3g sim. all is welll now
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i was having problems going on line when i first got my wizard, tried everthing even customer suport couldnt figure it out. well i finaly went to store to exchange my unit and one of the reps asked to look at the sim. sure enough thats what it was i didnt have a 3g sim. all is welll now
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what our american brothers call a "3g" sim and what the network provider called "3" use are slightly different things.... a american 3g sim is simply a normal 128k provisioned with extra services I.e. data and video calling (this is the same way all the gsm uk networks work too) however with "3" being the first 3g only network in the world they choosed to use the next generation of sim card called a usim which don't work in lots of non 3g phones including the wizard. try googling the word "usim" to see wot I mean
Under 3's terms and conditions you are not allowed to use their sim in a 2.5g phone. If you do use one and it works, they will eventually block it and send you a new sim with a gentle reminder that you are in breach of Ts and Cs.
Cheers Chaps, 3 it isn't then!
My O2 UK 3G UMTS sim works perfectly in my Wizard.You just can`t really get the benefits from it (Faster GPRS/EDGE etc....).
Hi All
I have just ordered a orange spv m3100 to be used unlocked on t-mobile. I just phoned up t-mobile to ask if i need a new sim to use in a 3g phone, but the woman i spoke to seemed to think that there is no such thing as a 3g sim, is this correct?
Will my old sim from my wizzard work in the m3100 and will i get 3g?
Thanks
you can use a 2g sim in the m3100 but you wouldnt be able to get any 3g services out of it.
best thing to do is just pop your sim into it and it will tell you if you have a 3g signal.
hope this helps
thats what i thought, thanks. i will have to phone up t-mobile again and explain i want a 3g sim.
have you asked to receive the m3100 unlocked or are you having it unlocked after you get it?
as far as i'm aware the m3100 comes locked to orange as standard so you won't be able to use a t-mobile sim...
I've spoke to T-mobile previously about 3g services and they've told me that the chip that I got off them (Bought a MDA vario) would be able to use 3g.
I popped it into my Nokia N70 and it worked a treat.
So, you might not need a different type of Sim card
nice tread i was literally going to ask this exact sme question. i just posted in another thread, asking almost the same thing, only i'm getting a new contract on t-mob and extending my misses contracting then gonna pay for them to both be unlocked and then swap the sims,
hope they send me a 3G sim
Strangely enough, I've ordered a Orange SPV 3100 today and depending on if I like it I'm going to get it unlocked and use my t-mobile chip with it.
Don't fancy paying £20 to get it unlocked to test though, So if anyone can get me a free unlocking solution by tomorrow, that would be appreciated
Even T-Mobile pay as you go sim cards seem to be fine for 3g data - just not enabled for video calling.
My vodafone sim card is a standard one, I haven't changed it in 3 or 4 years and 3g works fine.
thanks for the replys guys, this is all sounding good
I have a mate who had a MDA Vario. He bought an unbranded TyTN and asked me what he had to do to get the internet working.
I said call T and ask for 1) 3g sim 2) connection settings.
He called T and they said he didn't need a 3g sim... I have to say I though they were talking bollocks. So he popped his old sim in and we had a video call - no problems at all.
So you may be ok...
It depends on when you got your device/SIM. If bought over the last year it should be OK, if the SP supports 3G anyway. Older SIMs may need to be replaced.
So...the networks have been shipping USims instead of Sims....interesting. I didn't know that.
Quite useful to know.
thats very interesting, although I have had my sim for some time so not sure if it is a usim. Mine came with my Magician just over a year and a half ago. When I got my wizzard, I just swpped the sim over.
My M3100 should be here today, so I will test it and see what happens.
I dont think there will be a free unlocking tool for a few weeks at least, so Im just going to pay the £20 and get the code.
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So...the networks have been shipping USims instead of Sims....interesting. I didn't know that.
My voda sim is a sim (not a usim) and is about 3 years old and has worked in every voda 3g phone I've tried it in (v980, 6680, sharp 902, sharp 903, v3x and xda exec).
Gives 1.2mb on hsdpa.
I just had to ask for it to be enabled when voda launched 3g.
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