Considering this is my first post, I just would like to thank all the members of this forum. I have gotten so many programs, flashed, and learned a lot about my newly bought T-Mobile MDA. I have been searching for about an hour and a half and could not find a solution to my problem. Though I'm sure somebody will show me that there has already been a post.
Anyway, my issue lies with using my BT headset (Jabra BT150) and my MDA. It works fine, it listens, it comes on when I hit the button, etc. However, it does not seem to understand me correctly. Though I can dial contacts without much of a problem, it's when I try to give it a number to dial. It works perfectly on the device itself when I am not using BT, but either it gets really close or it's completly off. My main issue lies with the number "six". I don't think I've gotten it to understand me saying a "six" yet. I'm not quite sure what the problem is. I have voice recorded myself on both and there really isn't a huge difference except the BT sounds a good amount quieter.
If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be very greatful. I'm beginning to wonder if it was my tempation to be "conservative" *cough* cheap *cough* when buying the 150 as opposed to like the 250.
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ChrisG
I, too, had a problem with VC recognizing the number six. A possible explanation lies here, where someone at Microsoft gives details on Bluetooth and the speech recognition technology.
Apparently, the Voice Command team team built their speech recognition engine around a 16Khz sampling rate. Unfortunately, the Bluetooth headsets we're thinking of only do 8Khz. I'm not sure if this is a Bth profile limitation so I'm not sure if the higher-end (maybe the stereo ones, for example) headsets/headphones support higher sampling rates.
Where does the sampling rate difference come into play? With higher frequencies. Sibilance (the 'sss' sound) is basically a bunch of high frequencies. A lower sampling rate means these higher frequencies can't be captured as accurately or even at all. (Related reading: Nyquist theorem)
So, not surprisingly, Voice Command has a lot of trouble recognizing the number six, which has a lot of sibilance both in its intial attack and its release*. Combine that with the fact that the user's environment may be noisy, the mic may not be placed at an ideal position, etc. and you have a difficult situation for the speech recognition engine to deal with.
Try this: Call yourself on voicemail and leave yourself a message, repeating the command VC has trouble with. Then, listen to the recording you just made. This is what VC hears. Find out where the mic on your headset is. Now, call your voicemail again, but try to adjust the position of the headset until it begins to sound clearer and sibilance more pronounced. If you have to, physically take the headset off your ear and hold it in front of your mouth--close enough to capture more sibilance but not too close as to cause popping or other nasties. Not the most elegant solution, but a solution nonetheless.
I noticed the speech recognition problems when I went shopping for Bth headsets. I tried four--Plantronics 510, Motorola HS840 and H700, and finally the Plantronics 610. The 610 was the only one that actually recognized my sixes sometimes. Still, though, there's only around a 30% chance that it gets the whole phone number correct, until I take the headset off my head and hold it some distance away from my mouth.
Sucks, but hey. This is a situation where we're doing something that's not supported, so quirks have to be tolerated. Sometimes stuff like this works flawlessly, sometimes it doesn't.
* (maybe these aren't the correct terms, but coming from a music background, these are the closest terms I can relate to)
Thank you for your reply. I have already tried your suggestions numerous times to no avail. I have used the voice recording feature to record both from the phone and the headset and they don't sound all that different. Since it does dial from the phone itself anyway, I might be inclined to buy it and hope for an upgrade. Thanks for your detailed reply once again.
Thanks for posting this -- I hooked up my HS820 with my 8125 and VC and seemingly had no problems on Day One. Then yesterday (Day Two), I all of the sudden couldn't get anywhere: half my "call [Contact]" requests didn't go through and my sixes were all eights:
Me: "Dial six one one."
VC Lady: "Dial eight one one?"
Me: "Dial six six six six six six six."
VC Lady: "Dial eight eight eight eight eight eight eight?"
Me: "No, you idiot!"
Sorry to hear it's a technical issue rather than a solveable thing. I suppose at least the contacts mostly work without voicetags, so it's slightly better than the built-in voice recognition.
As a note, my previous phone (RAZR V3C), which altogether wasn't anything special, had amazing voice recognition by comparison. No voicetags, always got digits and contacts via BT without issue. How can we install that software on the Wizard??
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Curious if it works with the Kaiser and if you would recommend it.
Thanks!
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177
Motorola S9
New to this site. First time poster. I just got these headphones for my Tilt. I tried them with my 8125 using mfrazz WM6 rom and they worked well. Volume got fairly loud and sound quality was pretty good.
I haven't gotten my microSD card yet for the Tilt, but listened to some of the music that came with phone. Volume was lower, but I don't know if that was the audio level of that particular file. I haven't tried it with any personal mp3 files. I placed a phone call with this headset and sound quality was average. The caller could only be heard through the left earphone, not stereo.
The headset was fairly comfortable to wear, but I haven't tried it for extended periods. I'm going to try using it while running this weekend to see how well it stays in place.
that combo works great for me, used them at the gym all the time
There are many many user comments about these headphones over at Howard Forums bluetooth message forum. I went thrui 2 paris of these. Both failed for the same reason, The first lasted 1 week. the second lasted 1 month. The issue is they aren't really sweatproof as they claim. if you sweat alopt (and running in Phoenix will make you sweat), they konk out (i.e. technical term for stop working altogehter) after a while. The seals aren't really tight enough to keep water out. I tried a second one cuaz there were rumors of a bad inital batch. so I got a one from a later batch a couple months after and it did the same.
Two other issues with them: they tended to skip alot and also people complained it wasn';t very good for calls. So, if you have had good xperience with them that's great. But if you are still considering them, be forewarned. I loved the concept of them. But they just didn't meet their own marketing's expectations IMO.
Im now looking at the Plantronics 855, which is just becoming avail. No it's not sweatproof (but at least they don't claim to be). I;ve given up on getting a sweatproof BT headset for now. But otherwise, it looks like it might be a great solution for both calls and "casual" music.
Here's my two cents...
I bought the S9 headphones a few months ago after using the Motorola HT820's for close to a year (the HT820's are the ones that make you look like Mickey Mouse when you wear them).
The pros:
- The sleeker design of the S9 dont make you look like Mickey Mouse or Princess Lea. In fact, many people don't even realize I'm wearing headphones at all...
- They generally sound good
- The controls on both ears allow you to start/stop phone calls, raise and lower the volume, start/stop music and change music tracks
The cons (as compared with the HT820):
- Battery life is not wonderful -- the HT820's provide 14 hours or music, the S9 seem to provide more like 8
- Phone call audio plays only in one ear (the left one, to be exact). I had gotten used to phone calls in stereo...
- The middle button on each ears' control panel is a bit hard to use -- and those are the buttons which are used to start/stop phone calls and play/pause music
Overall, the sound quality is good. I dont usually have many dropouts during music and almost never during phone calls. People have never complained that they cant hear me speaking when using the S9 for calls.
Hope this helps....
Music sounds pretty decent. Not on caliber with a nice set of wired phones, but compared to the Shure Ec3, I'd give them a 7. On the plus side, if you can get a good fit for your ear, the bass response is a bit better than some of the "reference" quality earbuds. I think this is a matter of taste though.
Comfort is OK, but my ears do get a bit sore after an hour or so, but never to the point where I feel the need to take them off.
Music controls work fine, but I have not had great luck with activating incoming calls from the headset. Sometimes it works, others not. The buttons don't have a great tactile feel, so I may not be hitting the accept call button squarely. I also notice the music does not always pick right back up after using the head set activation button, so for these reasons, I usually hit the call accept button on the phone. This works fine.
I do get occasional skipping, but this seems to be related to Activesync.
I get occasional droped connections. Just turn the headset off and back on to reconnect. Happens maybe 1 out of 7 times I use them, and usually in the first few minutes - odd.
Phone call quality leaves a lot to be desired. For some reason, they only play through one ear when on a call and is seems that no matter what I do, the incoming person is too loud and boomy, even when I turn it way down. Usually this is passable for a short conversation, but if the person on the other end has an unfamiliar accent, I wind up having to switch over to the handset. People in general say they can hear me fine, but I don not use them in an environment with a lot of ambient noise.
That being said, I still use them very often at work as I don't get a lot of personal calls during the day. Battery life is usually sufficient for most of the day on a full charge. If you are at your desk the entire day, you may find they are drained before the end of the day (6-7 hours).
For home, I was thinking about picking up a pair of the Bluetrek phones. From the reviews I have read, if they fit you well, the sound quality is good, the battery life is a bit longer (though not much), they play phone calls in both ears and come with a nice carry case.
One final consideration, for some reason they do not get very loud with the Kaiser connection. It is still adequate, but if you like your music really loud, they may be lacking. I wouldn't rile them out on this though as they are plenty loud when connecting to my laptop, so there might be some software limitation on the volume which can be tweaked in the registry. I have seen some others mentioning this too and have not come across a fix yet, but I'd be willing to bet there will be one as soon as the BT headphones start getting more use.
Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
I have a Jabra BT620s, which is also A2DP. It is total crap. I would look at a different brand. Motorola headsets are supposed to work well.
Jabra BT8010 and Tilt
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Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
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I have the 8010 and it with all due respect to the previous poster, it works great. I have used it with the original shipped ROM and several cooked ROMS (Currently on Sleuth's 6.1 ver 3) and it worked well with all of them. I will say it seems to work the best (longer distance from the PPC) with the radio included in Sleuth's 6.1
Can either of you provide more specific information about the issues you had with it? I've never had a bluetooth headset before so I might not even notice.
My BT620s sounded like a bad record. The pitch kept shifting very subtly, but it is INSANELY annoying and makes it completely un-listenable. Also, it would drop audio for about 5 seconds of every minute, which is very annoying. It had trouble with pairing, when you turned it off, it would sometimes refuse to re-connect to the phone. The call quality with it was OK though. I sold mine and bought a pair of Motorolas.
i have the bt8010 (only for a week) and the head set is pretty good
i have had the headset cut out on me i think there is interference from the cell or wifi. but it doesn't happen all the time. the battery life is good i have played at least 9 hours of music (stereo) straight before it need a charge. the sound quality is ok, there is some distortion on the extreme high and low notes.
but it is wireless
the headset need to be angled in a upward angle in order to be conformable (at least for me) i was able to were it for 3 hours with out a problem
the cord between the ears some times get pulled by twisting my neck, it's about 1 inch too long
i have used it in a noisy production floor and the person on the other side head me fine, a little downed out but they didn't hear the hum of the loud machine in the background and because i had the stereo on i head him better then on my phone, and yes you do hear the person on both right and left sides.
i was going to get a Motorola (mono) one but i got this one because the talk time and standby life is longer (according to specs) and this one has stereo option.
this is the only headset that you could switch from work to play
i am happy with it, and other around me like it.
btw i got mine refurbished.
I have the BT8010. I've had it for about 7 to 8 months now, maybe longer.
I really do not like the headset at all. It has great sound so don't get me wrong. If sound is all you are interested in then go for it. But if you are looking for fit or the ear loops to stay on then they aren't the ones.
For me, the fit for me is horrible and the headset hurts because I have small ears.
SECOND and this is the BIGGEST LET DOWN, the ear loops keep falling out.
So if you get it go ahead and call and order some extras right away. You can contact them via phone I think and they will send you a few. Just keep one in your wallet and one in the car and some @ home, and some in your briefcase.
The ear loops fall out way too easy for my tastes. I'm currently looking for another set of A2DB enabled headsets.
I use it for some 4 month. Mostly monoaural. It's ok, but...
Pros: VERY good sound quality (noise reduction, environment supression), good battery lifetime (up to 3 days), clear display, handy controls.
Cons: the ear hanger (? sorry for my english) slips out from the unit causing unit to fall, fast dial numbers are too short (cannot add cell codes e.g. enabling my phone number identification before dial number), does not fit perfectly into the ear - the sound is good when I puch it with my finger toward my ear, but listening to the music is a bit painful (not full spectrum due to distance between speaker and ear-hole that cannot be, at least in my case, adjusted).
Overall: good design/performance. Better quality then BT800 (my previous earphone). Cannot be securely and properly adjusted toward ear.
has anyone got more insight on this headset... i am looking in purhcasing it.
I use the 8010. The only complaint I had was the ear hook kept falling out, like the poster above. What I did was to superglue the hook in. Now, it doesn't fall, and it fit tighter to the ear, making it better to hear conversations and music. I lost one of the hooks before, and when I called jabra to order another set of hooks, they sent me out a Free pair, no ? asked, so support is great. Now, you can find the headset at a very good price. I paid $100 for mines, you can find them for $40-60.
Jabra BT8010 connection
I also have problems with the ear loop falling out. But it's not that often.
What I find annoying is that it doesn't automatically connect to my HTC prophet as stereo headphones when I switch the Jabra to music mode. I have to manually go into bluetooth settings and click on Jabra BT8010 to set as stereo headphones. Does anyone have a fix for this? If I don't do the above steps, AVRCP is able to work, but music will still come out of the phone. It would be nice if I can just listen to music with a push of the mode button without having to fumble for my phone.
i have em .. and to be honest i cant really complain
the only problem ive actually had is like everyone else has mentioned...the ear loop comming off..but thats so small in comparison to what they have to offer.
imo :
the sync from my car to my home bt system is awesome!
the clarity is superb
volume, settings, caller id and the phonebook work flawlessly..and to top it off i got em off of ebay for 25 bucks brand new with a reciept..
cant beat it!
i ahve jabra bt620s and sound is too low, how can i increase the sound on bt headset
the best bluetooth I know so far is Itech. They don't sell here but you can find it on ebay. A2DP, bluetooth stereo, cliping on you cloth, looks like a ipod shuttle on you collar.
I own the BlueAnt Z9. I had a Cardo before that which didn't last long as I didn't really like it.
Both of these headsets advertise noise-cancellation.
I have noticed when I am outside on a slightly windy day (caveat: I do live in Chicago ), it is very difficult to use my BT.
Microsoft Voice Command won't even hear my commands at all and so I can't dial a call (this is not an issue with MSVC, for as soon as I step inside and there is no wind, it picks up just fine).
My callers complain that I am very hard to hear (even with noise cancellation set to max).
It is hard to hear my callers (i know this is partly due to the Z9's headset which doesn't fit too deep into the ear canal and this is the last of my concerns).
Am I expecting too much here? Shouldn't these noise-cancellation headsets be able to ignore the ambient whooshing of wind? Again, I'm not standing in a hurricane...just an average Chicago day.
I need to set my expectations. I obviously don't expect to be able to have a conversation at Wrigley Field...I can barely hear my cellphone there... but what are the current limits one can expect from these newer headsets?
I have read mixed reviews between the Z9 and the Jawbone, and don't really expect the Jawbone is going to be significantly better.... so in total, can someone give some examples of the upper limits that I might expect from these things?
thanks
bengalih said:
I own the BlueAnt Z9. I had a Cardo before that which didn't last long as I didn't really like it.
Both of these headsets advertise noise-cancellation.
I have noticed when I am outside on a slightly windy day (caveat: I do live in Chicago ), it is very difficult to use my BT.
Microsoft Voice Command won't even hear my commands at all and so I can't dial a call (this is not an issue with MSVC, for as soon as I step inside and there is no wind, it picks up just fine).
My callers complain that I am very hard to hear (even with noise cancellation set to max).
It is hard to hear my callers (i know this is partly due to the Z9's headset which doesn't fit too deep into the ear canal and this is the last of my concerns).
Am I expecting too much here? Shouldn't these noise-cancellation headsets be able to ignore the ambient whooshing of wind? Again, I'm not standing in a hurricane...just an average Chicago day.
I need to set my expectations. I obviously don't expect to be able to have a conversation at Wrigley Field...I can barely hear my cellphone there... but what are the current limits one can expect from these newer headsets?
I have read mixed reviews between the Z9 and the Jawbone, and don't really expect the Jawbone is going to be significantly better.... so in total, can someone give some examples of the upper limits that I might expect from these things?
thanks
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Noise and Wind are 2 totaly different things and as far as Im aware noise cancellation on any headset will not filter out Wind.
From my understanding of the Z9 is it uses 1 mic to capture your voice and the other is used to capture the background noise and then overlays both signals to remove your voice and sends that signal only. Now if the wind is hitting both mics then the Z9 will not be able to tell what it should be filtering out and what it shouldnt be.
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Noise and Wind are 2 totaly different things and as far as Im aware noise cancellation on any headset will not filter out Wind.
From my understanding of the Z9 is it uses 1 mic to capture your voice and the other is used to capture the background noise and then overlays both signals to remove your voice and sends that signal only. Now if the wind is hitting both mics then the Z9 will not be able to tell what it should be filtering out and what it shouldnt be.
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Thanks for your input. If this is the case, is anyone aware of any headsets that offer better "wind" cancellation. I was under the impression that the Jawbone and Z9 were the top headsets out there right now...but maybe there is something better.
Of course my first goal is to have everything work like I want... but short of that I wanted to ensure that my experience it typical of other user's experiences.
A Z9i is forthcoming...sometime in May. http://www.myblueant.com/z9i_black_headset.htm
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23279
So, it comes in red and can connect to more things....i guess thats important.
The only real useful thing that seems to come out of it is the improved earhook and buds. I hope they sell those so i can use with my Z9.
Anyone who gets one of these please write a review as to how it comares to either:
- The original Z9
- The original Jawbone
- The new Jawbone
The Z9i is supposed to be better with wind/noise cancellation than the Z9, however my e-mails to BlueAnt customer service asking them to provide any sort of data sheet/information on how or by how much this was improved hasn't met with any response.
Thx.
yes i am also intereted, i have the Z9 and i am verty happy with it, the only complain is the battery, and the ear bud, since it ripeed off on me because i fell alseep with the bluetooh on my ear and when i woke up the gel ear bud ripped off....
Got mine today.
bengalih said:
Anyone who gets one of these please write a review as to how it comares to either:
- The original Z9
- The original Jawbone
- The new Jawbone
The Z9i is supposed to be better with wind/noise cancellation than the Z9, however my e-mails to BlueAnt customer service asking them to provide any sort of data sheet/information on how or by how much this was improved hasn't met with any response.
Thx.
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Hey guys just got mine in the mail at work today, charging as we speak, I'll report back after I run some tests here.
Tested voice isolation.
I did a test on my drive in this morning. I called myself and left a voice mail to conduct the test. All the tests are performed driving on the Highway driving 80 m.p.h (128.75 for the rest of the world). The first test is normal noise isolation with the windows up. The second test is normal noise isolation with the windows down(very noticeable). The third test, and I admit I may have done this wrong, is windows down with max voice isolation(a little better than without max voice isolation). What I think may be wrong with this third test is I'm not sure if it has to be quiet before you instantiate the max voice isolation in order to center on the correct voice better, maybe we should revisit this test. The fourth and final test is max voice isolation and windows up(a great deal of difference can be heard). I don't have any hard numbers to prove this, nor do I have the time to analyze the sound variations but someone else here might. So I have attached a copy of the test in MP3 form for your testing and listening enjoyment.
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I did a test on my drive in this morning. I called myself and left a voice mail to conduct the test. All the tests are performed driving on the Highway driving 80 m.p.h (128.75 for the rest of the world). The first test is normal noise isolation with the windows up. The second test is normal noise isolation with the windows down(very noticeable). The third test, and I admit I may have done this wrong, is windows down with max voice isolation(a little better than without max voice isolation). What I think may be wrong with this third test is I'm not sure if it has to be quiet before you instantiate the max voice isolation in order to center on the correct voice better, maybe we should revisit this test. The fourth and final test is max voice isolation and windows up(a great deal of difference can be heard). I don't have any hard numbers to prove this, nor do I have the time to analyze the sound variations but someone else here might. So I have attached a copy of the test in MP3 form for your testing and listening enjoyment.
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Thanks for those tests.
Personally I am very interested in wind tests, specifically when just walking outdoors with a moderate degree of wind.
I find that being outside (not in a car) generally produces less noise, but more wind (since you don't have the car structure buffeting the wind). If you have the time I would appreciate if you could post the results of a test like this.
Also, if you happen to use MS Voice Command, I would be interested to know if it can pick up your commands.
On my current headsets if I wear it in my left ear (which I don't normally do) and roll my windows down on the highway MSVC does not pick up my commands. The same is true if I am walking in winds.
Also, what headsets did you have previously, and how would you say this compares?
thanks!
Review Update?
Any update on how it has been working after a week?
yeah i am surprised that no one has reviewed it after this long...
Check this thread, we've been comparing there;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370007&page=7
I'm liking tha Z9i the best for overall performance and fit, especially if you use the Jabra ear loops as they are the most comfortable and adjustable.
I tried and dumped the Jawbone 2 headset, sadly they didn't deliver in my opinion, especially for the price.
Does anyone actually use the phone as a phone? I'm finding that the echo cancel really limits the quality of the phone. I can hardly carry on a decent conversation in the car using the supplied headset.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Try this: connect the headset. Call your phone from another phone. Listen to both at the same time. You can clearly hear when you talk that the phone is suppressing noise.
What I find is that when I'm in the car, it actually seems to suppress the volume of the person on the other end! So, it can be very frustrating as I miss words that they say.
Combine this with AT&T's marvelous AGC (where if you don't talk, it cranks the volume so that when you do talk, it blows the person on the other end away!), and the total quality of the call is horrible.
I've been using cell phones for almost 20 years. This is the worst phone quality I've ever experience.
When I use the phone directly for calls, everything sounds clear and at a consistent volume with one exception, while waiting for the other party to answer, the call ringing tone goes up and down in volume.
I've paired 3 different bluetooth headsets to the phone and found that the volume in my headset goes up and down quite a bit. Usually it's the worst at the beginning of the call. Sometimes I can't hear the other person answer but then it levels out a bit and the volume fluctuations are less extreme. I've tried an old Sony Ericsson, a Jabra Extreme, and have settled on a Plantronics Voyager Pro+. The Voyager is about the best I've tried but still exhibits the volume fluctuations but not as bad. It also supports A2DP so I can listen to podcasts through the headset.
I use it with the Sync system in my ford f150 and have no problems at all. It works great. I dont use headsets so..........only my sync system
I thought it was just me. My Plantronics 925 does this as well. Calls from the phone are fine, but the headset volume cuts in and out. Is this a bad Bluetooth stack or other problem? I think I remember another phone (WM 6.5) that had to get hacked to fix this. I'm a little miffed on this. Did anyone at Samsung or ATT test the bluetooth on this phone before selling it?
I have had very good call quality whether using the "phone as a phone", the phones speaker phone, or a blue ant bluetooth headset. I have had poor call quality only when trying to call someone in very low signal area. That has only been once. Otherwise overall clarity and volume have not been an issue, actually phone volume on high is too loud for my ears!
adding to my earlier post. I exchanged my Focus due to an unrelated issue. Both handsets had the same fade out issue with the bluetooth headsets. I've experienced it on every call so I don't think it's signal related. I don't see any volume fluctuation at all when using the handset without the bluetooth headset. I've tried the same three bluetooth headsets on my wife's iPhone 3GS and all work fine. I've also streamed at least a couple of hours of podcasts from the Focus to my headset and the volume is perfectly level. Whatever the issue, it's only related to phone calls. Very frustrating.
I've experienced the same issues. I have an Aliph Jawbone Icon. Before I updated the firmware on it I could barely hear someone on the other end. With the new jawbone firmware I have the ability to control the volume in the headset and only when I have it turned all the way up does it work ok. I do, however, still have trouble when people are talking that when the first start and or finish talking what they say seems to get clipped. Further, the volume seems to fade in and out. Also, if I'm using the AT&T navigator software and have my headset attached it will give me directions through the headset, but the end of every direction gets chopped off. So, the avene or street part of a direction doesn't come through.
I've been following this issue in a few different forums. Today a moderator in the Microsoft Answers forum jumped in and said they were experiencing the same problem and they would escalate the issue.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...4ce-30ee-4734-9dab-28ce0d561132?prof=required
Can't recommend this phone
I was so excited when I first got my Focus. I thought it was such a huge step forward for MS mobile and actually had some chance at being mainstream. Sure it lacked a few features but there was the hope that MS would update the phone quickly. After all, they seemed to have made such phenomenal progress in getting the phone to market, seemed like fixing a few things and adding a few features would be a no-brainer.
Well, here we are 3 months later (Apple released the first update for iPhone 1.0.1 only one month later) and lots of rumors but nothing substantial on the long-awaited update. We'll see cut/paste but it's not at all clear if they will address anything else.
Here in CA we have a law that says we can't talk on the phone unless it's hands free. For the first time since that law was imposed, I've been regularly breaking it. I can't use a handsfree headset. Even the wired one that comes with the phone is so damn inconvenient that by the time I get it going, the caller is long gone. So, seemingly MAJOR features like BT headsets appear to get no notice at all from MS. I've looked through all the threads and there's nothing from MS. They don't even acknowledge the problem.
Looking at the thread from mcraine, I don't see where MS is going to do anything about this. Also, don't see any indication that it's part of any forthcoming updates.
Too bad. I thought this MS had a chance with this phone but they are blowing it big time. Momentum is gone now. If we have to wait another 3 months to get the browser fixed then the phone is destined to be like the Palm Pre. Good phone but can't keep up with the 'big' boys. This horse jumped out of the gate and was looking really good for the first couple of strides but then completely fell down and they are trying to coax it to get up again.
same issue here as well. mine is only a month old. it is not as noticable when sync'd to the car, but still noticable. and as said before more at the beginning of the call. if there were not issues, it would not be M$