The cheap camera lens seems to have no IR filter.
So this may account for a lot of the blue fringes we see around bright spots in the photograps.
seems to be a cost saving tactic on many cheap digital camera's
The infrared light is detected as blue light , but has a different refraction index, so it shows up as an out of focus blue fringe around bright objects.
I have included a picture shining an remote to the camera to show the effect.
The remote emmits no visible light , yet the camera detects a blue lightsource.
If you place a filter in front of the lens that filter out the VISIBLE light you can even make an "X-ray" camera out it for extra fun stuff.
Im not gonna explain that any further here , just look it up on google with words like "sony" "x-ray" "camera" and maybe "clothes" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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If you place a filter in front of the lens that filter out the VISIBLE light you can even make an "X-ray" camera out it for extra fun stuff.
Im not gonna explain that any further here , just look it up on google with words like "sony" "x-ray" "camera" and maybe "clothes" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Spoilsport ! :wink:
actually i've never seen a mobile phone camera or any pc-webcam that has an ir-filter. they all show ir-light. :wink:
I would go as far as to say: you are all wrong!
Our cameras have IR filters.
All webcams do!
The only problem is; it's not good enough..
Get yourself a cheap logitech camera, dismantle it, remove a small square piece of glass.
Connect the camera and see how much interference IR is giving!
The filters remove IR "radiation" light, but not enough to dampen a IR remote signal..
I completly disassembled two webcams until now and there was no such thing unless the lens itself has ir-filter capabilitys. that doesn't have to mean that that's the standart case, but the pictures the cams took looked pretty much the same even with all crap removed. I don't think cheap cams (and pretty much all cams are cheap unless it's a digicam for 200$ or more) include an ir-filter.
bk227865 said:
If you place a filter in front of the lens that filter out the VISIBLE light you can even make an "X-ray" camera out it for extra fun stuff.
Im not gonna explain that any further here , just look it up on google with words like "sony" "x-ray" "camera" and maybe "clothes" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Did you take that with your wizard ?
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I completly disassembled two webcams until now and there was no such thing unless the lens itself has ir-filter capabilitys. that doesn't have to mean that that's the standart case, but the pictures the cams took looked pretty much the same even with all crap removed. I don't think cheap cams (and pretty much all cams are cheap unless it's a digicam for 200$ or more) include an ir-filter.
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Well, the IR filter I picked out if my Logitech quick cam looks like a normal piece of glass, but if you see it from the side, you either get a green/turquoise color or red/pink color from it..
Look at your lenses; got the same color reflections?
nope. no reflections at the lens as far as I can see it. and no little piece of glass either. maybe logitech does that since it's a more expensive cam? mine was really cheap.. reeeally cheap ^^ like 8 euros or so. an old "pencam" that I teared appart got rid of the plastic case and "built" a new case out of sticky tape looks like a phreaky cocoon but is 1/3 the size of the original.
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Did you take that with your wizard ?
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Yes,
Some remote controls have a black looking piece of plastic in front.
That is actually a filter that let's IR pass through but not visible light.
So i demollished an old remote control and with the makeshift black plastic filter taped in front of the lens i took a picture. Then i took a regular picture for comparison.
As you can see the leaves on the tree's are much lighter when viewed in IR. That is because they reflect IR radiation , (protecting themself from getting sunburned)
Ideally the sky in the IR image should register as very dark blue , but too much normal red light is seeping through the plastic filter.
LOL, all cameras I've test since I was a child can detect IR beams from a remote. no matter if they have IR filters or not... No I'm 30 years old :twisted:
Interesting... I get the same thing with my Charmer camera.
However, I was trying to shine my IR Remote to act as a torch light in total darkness, but doesn't seems to work. I need a much stronger IR light source.
When our son was born I bought a wireless video camera. Then after doing some research I removed the IR filter (there is a professional name for it, can't remember) and bought myself 8 powerfull IR leds, connected them to 12V.
It was like daylight in the middle of the night ;O)
The IR sensitivity of CMOS and CCD generaly doesn't go to much down the spectrum. Heat from a body is below that range.
Cheers
http://www.kaya-optics.com/products/overview.shtml
For a good, basic explanation of NIR
tweakradje said:
When our son was born I bought a wireless video camera. Then after doing some research I removed the IR filter (there is a professional name for it, can't remember) and bought myself 8 powerfull IR leds, connected them to 12V.
It was like daylight in the middle of the night ;O)
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Wow, that's what I call surveillance :twisted: ... big parent is watching you... ^^
bk227865 said:
The cheap camera lens seems to have no IR filter.
So this may account for a lot of the blue fringes we see around bright spots in the photograps.
seems to be a cost saving tactic on many cheap digital camera's
The infrared light is detected as blue light , but has a different refraction index, so it shows up as an out of focus blue fringe around bright objects.
I have included a picture shining an remote to the camera to show the effect.
The remote emmits no visible light , yet the camera detects a blue lightsource.
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A few days ago, I was making a photo of my laptop and when I looked into the camera, I saw a little light blinking what turns out to be the infrared port of my laptop, but it soesn't bother me at all, did not have any problems yest with the pictures I took.
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knowsleyroader said:
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Yes,
Some remote controls have a black looking piece of plastic in front.
That is actually a filter that let's IR pass through but not visible light.
So i demollished an old remote control and with the makeshift black plastic filter taped in front of the lens i took a picture. Then i took a regular picture for comparison.
As you can see the leaves on the tree's are much lighter when viewed in IR. That is because they reflect IR radiation , (protecting themself from getting sunburned)
Ideally the sky in the IR image should register as very dark blue , but too much normal red light is seeping through the plastic filter.
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So If I go to a boot sale and find any old type remote with a docking big brown/black front cover over the ir would that work ?
guys guys guys this will clear it all up ...
just read this
http://www.hoagieshouse.com/IR/
found here http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000110036028/
have fun browsing :wink:
any ideas how to remove IR filter from Wizard?
I've done that on nokia 3110c (destructive method) and on webcam MS vx1000(?) and there was the filter just sitting, no glue.
can be wizard modded? any ideas/hints/pictures/tutorials?
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I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.
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I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.
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Why should it take pictures identical to a 5MP camera. The lens on the front is going to be vastly different, the sensor maybe 5MP, but what is the spacing on the sensor pixels? The closer together, the noisier the image. Colour balance will be down to the sensor too.
Regards
I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
My pictures come out fine...
Hmmmmmmm...................... I'll just keep playing with it.
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I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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I'm not being flippant, but is it possible you might have a dirty lens?
Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.
The "5mp" doesn't really mean much, as stated earlier, if the sensor and lens are poor quality. As far as I know, HTC haven't released a phone with a reasonable quality camera, yet.
I bounce between different smart-phones (just coming back to WM now, after a year with S60). I can say that many of the S60 devices (in particular the Nokia N95, but also the N82 with Xenon flash) have very good cameras, being similar to low-end digital cameras in daylight. They lack optical zoom and tend to over-compress images, but have good quality lenses.
imho hd camera is excelent
pictures look old & rustic only if you make them inside house without using the artificial light setting, and this is also a general rule, not specific to HD.
Never seen a good phone camera yet, including the latest 8mpixel ones. They're all terrible.
Never
This camera will NEVER take pictures anywhere near what real cameras do. The photo sites are so tiny, they are smaller then the length of waive of light. Therefore noise, lack of dynamic width, etc. No patch will ever fix that. Sorry
open back cover , clean the lens , you will see a huge difference in quality
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Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.
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Not that I'm doubting you or anything but you do realize that the back cover only has a hole through to the lens?
You might try setting the brightness higher:
If you touch the small rectangle near the bottom right side of the screen (when holding landscape)
Then select the gear symbol, then select brightness from the menu and hit the "+" until it looks better that will remove most of the darkness.
The camera is a plain disappointment. In the time the camera autofocusses, I could have bought a Sony Ericsson C905's, create a good looking photo (with xenon flash) and upload it to imageshack.
If 'your object' makes the slightest move, your photo will be blurry . This is also the case when you attempt to make a photo of someone that isn't aware he or she has to be waiting for the autofocus lag. Head moves >>> blurry pic.
iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why. Overall my Touch HD scores 8/10, where atleast 1 full point is taken up by the camera
and it's better don't speak about the very laggy video recording
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iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why.
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Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.
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Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.
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hehe, thats true.
mpixels dont count as much as the general public belives. the more mpix. the higher rezolution you can print the picture in. but for ordinary photos, 1.3 mpix would be enough, as long as the optics is good.
Personally, I rarely use a phone camera.
I use either my Olympus 720SW or Canon EOS.
the camera sucks **** compared to the n95 and the video recording is horrid. i know it's not meant to be as good as a dedicated camera but this is pretty bad given the price of the device.
i concur with mach03, move the camera a slight bit and eveyrthing gets blurred. one way i've semi gotten aorund this is to unlock the burst functiona nd take a sequence of pics and hope one or two coems out alright, not the most economic way to do it though...
i would ahve thought that maybe there's a way to tweak the camera to stop the blurring or even affect how much light is picked up by the lens which should also help with clarity
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I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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A silly idea, but seriously, did you check if maybe, just maybe, you left the "sepia" effect turned on???
Anyone else noticed some kind of lens reflection problem at night photos?
Hope it's not design fault.
There's no scratches at lens and phone is only two weeks old!
Sample pictures attached:
Edit: yes lens flare is norma, but is it really normal that effect is so strong?
Take that same exact picture with a real digital camera and compare it before posting up another "issue" thread.
Seriously, people are picking straws now.
That's a known optical phenomenon which is called "FLARE". edit the title, this might get people anxious.
Lens flares is a problem optics struggle with. Even 1500 dollar lenses fail in this. But with special coating and sofisticated technology it can be less flares.
The only real solutions to prevent flares are:
a) dont point the lens to a direct light source (like the sun)
b) use a lense hood (on a phone?? hehe)
But you can in fact use your hand to shadow the lense to prevent this.
read more:
digital-photography-school.com/eliminating-lens-flare
My take on this:
Since night mode compensates with high ISO, it will get those lights more. Try covering the bright part.
This is absolutely normal for cheap camera with a very small lens and plastic cover.
high iso wont likely give you more flares, just more noice. Unfortunatly with almost all but real slr´s the software tries to hide this noice with cheap and lousy smooth-filters, creating a soft and cartoonish look
Hi, I don't know how various settings affect the results. However, I wish to be able to take excellent photos and videos under different conditions. Are there any good apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera App? I am using GB. Thanks
+1
Or 1up
Might be dependant on hardware cause of varying quality pics
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont feel that they are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
I am happy with the stock camera.. Many features too
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Perhaps it is better to talk about this via samples.
Any suggestion on better camera settings is appreciated.
I guess I may need an app that stores a set of preset settings
for taking photos/videos under different environments. Thanks.
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
In photo 2, the room appeared to be dark but it was not.
I changed the flash to auto, on along with changing other
settings. The room still appeared to be dark.
In photo 3, again, that place was not dark. Setting the flash
to auto or on did not help.
In photo 4, everything including the room appears to be somewhat yellowish.
In reality, the wall is white and the pillows are gray.
madbird said:
what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont fell that the are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
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Thanks for the suggestion but I am not a professional. I don't know how various settings affect the results. By the time I have tested out various settings, things that I want to capture will have been gone.
ah now things are getting clearer . your pictures looks a little bit like something is wrong with the 'white balance' of your camera. so you can try different settings for the white balance, the default should be automatic (AWB). I'm not an photoexpert too, but maybe some one else can guide you further with this.
Thanks for pointing this out. I also tried white balance but it did not help. Perhaps I did not do it properly. Hoping somebody could provide some tips. Are the strong glares from the ceiling lights in photo 1 also caused by the white balance?
hajime_android said:
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this. You can try, like me, and use photoshop. For me, its no problem because I have used photoshop for many years, but others are not so fortunate. This fault is well documented. Samsung know about it, yet have done nothing to correct it. The only way is to send the unit back to the retailer for a new unit. I tried three or four brand new units and they were all the same.
In general. The camera has limitations because of its size and proximity to other circuitry that may introduce noise etc. Its 8megapix with a tiny lens, so as is, I feel it does a pretty good job (apart from that pink dot that is). To get better pictures, consider post processing with photoshop. If that's not an option, and quite frankly I would not recommend purchasing it just for pics from any camphone, try the GIMP, its free and does an awful lot to enhance your pics. You can find the GIMP here www.gimp.org it will run on linux, windows and the Mac
Hope that helps
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
hajime_android said:
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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Nope. sorry about that.
bigstarrynight said:
This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this.
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Good question. I know the S2 does, and we all know about the Galaxy Note. I can see evidence of the problem on a slashgear.com presentation, and its that presentation that stopped me from going over to the S3. However, there are plenty of youtube tests where it seems pretty good. The S3 has only just been released, so it might be a while more before any issues become apparent. I think its one where you try before you buy. Personally, I'm not touching either the S3 or the 'Note until I have proof that the issue has been resolved.
Edit. The fault is commonly known as "the pink dot"
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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spfraggle said:
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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Well, there must be a lot of pink dirt around. My crappy clam phone must have pink dirt repellent, because no matter how greasy the lens gets, pics from it don't have a pink dot. Neither does my DSLR when the uv filter gets filthy, or my specs come to that. Sorry, but the dirt bit on this issue is a red herring. The camera has a defect.
I use UCam. A lot of "pro" settings and also some cool. And... you can disable shutter sound.
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i think you should send the device to service/repair, because i think this is an hardware issue. i saw a lot of pictures taken by the note (not only my own device) and they are al just fine with the standard settings.
I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens. Do you think this is the cause to all of my problems? Am I supposed to remove it? For the first few days after purchase (3 weeks ago), the Note took excellent photos. As for last week and the week before that, it depends. The thin protective film has been there right from the beginning. Let's say the protective film covering the lens caused the pink dot, how do you explain why the cafe in photos 2 and 3 appeared to be dark whereas in reality, it was not. Also, photo 4 looks yellowish overall.
Hi,
Protective film would most likely create the effect on pic one. (which would be visible when a direct light source or reflection is in the frame.)
Pic two - could be a metering issue. Try changing the (cog wheel =>) metering setting and / or exposure level.
Yellowish photo is the result of incorrect "white balance". Change the white balance setting to incandescent.
I'm using both the stock ICS camera and camera zoom fx. On my previous phone the fx produced much better photos than the stock one. On my G - Note I don't see much difference.
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I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens.
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Yes you are supposed to remove it. It does say so in the instructions that came with your phone. Check the camera after you have done this.
Just wondering if you guys can give me some tips on taking better photos. Everything always looks all washed out and even out of focus sometimes.
Maybe some pro mode settings you guys use?
Here is a pic I took for example. The ram sticks go from red to orange but look orange and the light around the case is orange but looks white. I tried some of the filters but nothing helped.
Poking fun at Samsung fanboys here.....
Fanboy: But but.....our camera takes better pictures than the iPhone. the iPhone isn't colorful.
Me: Right, but its the correct color.
Fanboy: But ours it better.
This is my biggest disgust with this phone. If you do find a solution, post it here.
This camera is awful when it comes to true replication.
Thanks for your help
C3cars said:
Poking fun at Samsung fanboys here.....
Fanboy: But but.....our camera takes better pictures than the iPhone. the iPhone isn't colorful.
Me: Right, but its the correct color.
Fanboy: But ours it better.
This is my biggest disgust with this phone. If you do find a solution, post it here.
This camera is awful when it comes to true replication.
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Lol the picture above has nothing to do with colour correction, you can tell by the led light on the speaker that it's a smudging issue.
OP needs to take better care of the camera lense, wipe it down and find a glasses cleaner solution; hopefully you didn't scartch it.
It's not a smudging issue, nor is it scratched, I take very good care of my phone. Besides how would a smudge change the color of the ram from red to orange? Or the color from the case light from orange to white?
You can literally tell you camera is smudged or scratched, look at the diffusion on the ambient lights. Sounds like it's probably micro scratched and hasn't been cared for, you can either try polishing or replacing the front glass.
Also might be in your best interest to check out the HDR/color setting, try setting it to auto if you aren't sure what balance settings do.
I have some concerns about the new Motorola G7 phones particularly:
Screen - The screen tends to have a blue/cool tinge, the overall display calibration is "off".
Camera - Colours can be washed-out, zoom has many artifacts & noise and poor dynamic range at night. Stabilization needs a lot of work (for both front & back) and overall sharpness/detail/colour could be better.
Does this mean the actual lens is of inferior make & quality?
Will a GCam port be enough to compensate for the otherwise poor camera image quality?
Need help. Thank you.
Unlike G6 and Z3 Play, you cannot change the color temperature.
However, you can install CF Lumen if yours rooted.
I did it on both G6 (compensate green) and G7 to keep the color temperature consistent.
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I have some concerns about the new Motorola G7 phones particularly:
Screen - The screen tends to have a blue/cool tinge, the overall display calibration is "off".
Camera - Colours can be washed-out, zoom has many artifacts & noise and poor dynamic range at night. Stabilization needs a lot of work (for both front & back) and overall sharpness/detail/colour could be better.
Does this mean the actual lens is of inferior make & quality?
Will a GCam port be enough to compensate for the otherwise poor camera image quality?
Need help. Thank you.
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For the screen, I usually use night light. Corrects it easily
I know our maintainer is working on a gcam port last I knew. If you have twrp you can always flash gapps with gcam
But to answer the thread title: no its not worse with more RAM, more storage, better SoC, etc than the g6
gino_76ph said:
I have some concerns about the new Motorola G7 phones particularly:
Screen - The screen tends to have a blue/cool tinge, the overall display calibration is "off".
Camera - Colours can be washed-out, zoom has many artifacts & noise and poor dynamic range at night. Stabilization needs a lot of work (for both front & back) and overall sharpness/detail/colour could be better.
Does this mean the actual lens is of inferior make & quality?
Will a GCam port be enough to compensate for the otherwise poor camera image quality?
Need help. Thank you.
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I haven't noticed where the screen seems to be blue, mine looks fine to me and other colors seem just fine.
As far as zoom goes this device does not have optical zoom, so of course it's going to be bad. May as well take picture normal then crop, it achieves the same thing. I think stabilization is amazing, definitely a lot better than the G6.
I use the Google Camera port and it definitely takes good pictures but I haven't noticed and differences between them. Night sight is amazing too.
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I haven't noticed where the screen seems to be blue, mine looks fine to me and other colors seem just fine.
As far as zoom goes this device does not have optical zoom, so of course it's going to be bad. May as well take picture normal then crop, it achieves the same thing. I think stabilization is amazing, definitely a lot better than the G6.
I use the Google Camera port and it definitely takes good pictures but I haven't noticed and differences between them. Night sight is amazing too.
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I have a replacement screen and the video looks fabulous over my g4. That died. Get a case or you're going to be looking on eBay for a picture of the exact same ribbon cable printing for about 29 bucks. If the photo doesn't show same printing on the black, don't get it! Real on left, not gorilla glass 3 on the right. I used silicone on the very edges instead of getting that 3M stuff because this model of phone uses the REALLY thin stuff. Did my pic upload?
Absolutely NOT! I feel as though the G7 is USA's G7 Plus with those specs. Lenovo really screwed up not bringing the G6+ to the USA last year. My OG Pixel was trashed (throwing it at a concrete wall) and my closest option to purchase an Unlocked Device was at Walmart. All the devices they had on display were last years models and the very non-knowledgeable sales Rep didnt know what was in stock, so i said forget the display models and lets head over to the storage box and see what there is to choose from. When he opened the box, a bright light shined over and they're were about 8 G7s (non of which was on display). "Oh we cant sell them yet" WTF??? Go I got stuck taking a G6, but I was NOT a happy customer. Contacted Walmart Customer Support and 2 days later i returned the G6 for my awesome Moto G7.
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I have a replacement screen and the video looks fabulous over my g4. That died. Get a case or you're going to be looking on eBay for a picture of the exact same ribbon cable printing for about 29 bucks. If the photo doesn't show same printing on the black, don't get it! Real on left, not gorilla glass 3 on the right. I used silicone on the very edges instead of getting that 3M stuff because this model of phone uses the REALLY thin stuff. Did my pic upload?
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I do repairs so I see complaints about color accuracy on devices all the time, but you can take devices straight out of the box and there will be variations because there is an acceptable tolerance otherwise they'd be throwing out so many screens. The ones that tend to get the most complaints are the ones at the edge of the tolerance.
3m tape is awful for screen replacement, we use the black Tessa tape, it's super sticky and doesn't like to let go.
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