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Hi Guys: I have got the Widcomm Phone edition stack working on my unit.
It seems to be fine but I have not fully tested all aspects of the software - so if any little bits don't work, let me know...
You need to install the official widcomm 1-4-1-59 version
Then you can upgrade it using the cab file I have made.
The 1.4.1.59 version file I got from the following topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=57550#57550
thanks go to mamaich for the file.
the upgrade file consistes of the PE edition files and the required registry entries.
Let me know how you all go on with it - but I am not really a hacker so any serious probs I will not be able to fix...
if anyone else can improve on the installation be my guest
any news about which profiles it support that ms or the old one dont support ?
I hope unintall won't mess up my volume as in case of original bluetoothgps.cab
I can't garauntee it works perfectly, so I suggest everyone make a backup of their system before use.
has anyone tested any BT headset with this new stack?
I've got it installed and it all seems to work well exept for the handsfree/headset profile, I have set up my headset ok it is discovered and bonds fine but when I try to connect from the xda2 the connection fails after "waiting for device" for some time. tried with a motorola hs 810 and a neovoice usb, same with both. Anyone got any ideas?
BT headset
I have a 6315 and an XDA 2, I haven't tried the BT Stack on the XDA 2 yet but I found when I bondeded my HBH-30 to my 6315 once it made the connection my BT Headset shut off for some reson. This caused the bonding to fail, but as soon as I turned my headset back on (while it was trying to discover services) it completed the process and worked on my 6315. I'm not sure if this will be the same, but it's worth a shot.
Brandon
Test results
Hi fellows
Here is little bit of my testing of this new BT Stack, which we all awaiting for..
Proc…
1. Installed as per instructions 1.59 without any problem. During installation was prom to override .dll files – agreed to do that. For good or for bad – will see later.
2. Installed .cab file provided by icarusbop (big thanks to him for doing this) without any problem. Screen shots will be attached below.
3. Reset it as requested upon installation and got Widcomm BT working instead of MS BT..
4. Paired it with my BlueTrek G2 within 3 seconds (which took usually 10 sec with MS BT)
5. BT recognized G2 as device with Headset/Hands-Free profiles and asked to use as default… I said yes…
Here comes Cons part ;(
1. Unfortunately even after paring – my I-Mate can not get connected with G2 (see screen shot)
2. As you can see in another screen shot – there is Hands Free menu – it can not be accessed, or can be accessed ONLY while connection is established.
3. AND the last L … So, this new BT is not working now… I decided to go back to MS BT… SURPISE!!! I am getting message that BT HARDWARE IS NOT INSTALL ON THIS UNIT…. L Assumption - .dll files were overwritten (see Proc 1)
Here is my 2 cents in this jorney… I am hoping that described problems can be fixed and we can make it working (without doing hard reset on my device )
Paul
thanks guys! for testing hands-free/headset profile. by now everything seems to work fine with this new stack except for hands-free/headset profile.
New comments to my testing
1. I tried what NeoCole recommended - didn't work for me
2. As soon as new BT is OFF - MS BT is working fine .....uf
LETS FIX THE HEADSET PART PLEASE
I posted this is another thread - but in case someone does not read that thread . . . it is relevant here as well.
If the intent of this is to get voice dialing without touching the device, that is by only pressing a button on the headset to initiate a voice-dial program to make the call, there is no evidence this works with this BT stack either.
I have been reading other forums with people who have the H6315 already (mine is in the mail to me now) and none of them have been able to make this work. Nor is there any mention of this capability in any of the literature and/or documentation for this device. It seems that if this was a feature of this phone, it would be prominently displayed!
Voice Command
Okay.. on my 6315 I press the headset button, it beeps, sound and voice is now transfered to the headset. I do this before I initate voice command. Now all I do is press a button that activates Voice Command on the PPC and walla, I'm speaking and listening through my BT Headset. This is a huge step forward from using the MS Stack, and I feel that since the Phone Edition of the Widcomm is 1.0.0 I'm sure that they'll associate a hardware button with the headset button in future releases. Anyhow.. I think that the functionality of the Widcomm BT Stack is well worth the work. The XDA 2 would be a lot better device if the BT Stack worked 100% of the time and was fully compatibile.
I also have not got it working.
the Hp 6315 is well know to still require a hardware button press (not on the headset) to activate voice command. They can still not do with any nokia or SE phone can do easily.
Surur
VoiceCommand
That would be correct... One press of the HW Button does it all on a Regular phone.
The 6315 has brought it closer to allow you to interact with programs using your BT Headset, but yes you must still activate the programs on your handset before you can use them with your headset.
So.. to sum it up...
1. You can't interact with Voice Command using MS BT Stack on an XDA 2
2. You can interact with Voice Command using Widcomm Stack on 6315, but you have to activate the headset first, then start VoiceCommand on the PPC by using the HW Button.
Hopefully through this thread we'll be able to give the XDA 2 the same functionality as the 6315.
And maybe if Widcomm provides an update to allow the headset to activate a HW button, we'll be to the one step solution.
I do not want my comments to be read as stating that this is not a worthwile endeavor. I simply meant to make sure that someone does not go to the trouble of installing this new stack (particularly those who might be considered novices) with the mistaken impression that by doing so they will have that "one step" voice dialing solution.
This is by all means a worthwile endeavor, but it is merely a step down the road . . . not the final destination.
Y'all are doing good work - keep on blazing that trail!
hm.. I would think that it is more of MS Voice Dial functionality than BT - to recognize signal sent from headset as request for voice dialing.
When MS released first version of Voice Dialing they did not expect new functionality to have BT headset with hands-free profile connected to the device.
paired with my Jabra 250 = ok
connected to my Jabra 250 = failed
No luck with Moto headset
Eveything else seem to be working. No problems with detecting and working with BT access point
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I hope unintall won't mess up my volume as in case of original bluetoothgps.cab
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Hi Rehman,
i tried to install and uninstall, for the very first time i didn't have to get a Hard-Reset done. the volume didn't disappear. so i believe trying it wont be a harm, but yet i would recommend to get a full Backup first.
Trying to figure this out
Okay, I looked through the whole registry. I can't find anything out of the ordinary. Only thing I can think of is the sound driver. Does anyone know what DLL that is? I bet it's a different version.
If someone that knows more about which DLL does what. Let's get all the DLL's that could pertain to Sound and Phone and compair the 6315 DLL's with the ones on the XDA2.
Hi
Anyone found any software that offers reliable voice dialing? The MDA Pro comes with somet called "Voice Speed Dial" Its sh1te!
Has a habit of trashing the voice tags of its own accord, and often does not respond when I press button on bluetooth headset.
When the device is closed and off and you press the button on headset nothing happens (PPC is starting up etc) several presses are usually required before you can actually call the contact.
I just tried a trial version of microsoft voice command 1.5 (this I believe is what imate is shipping) unfortunately it cannot understand a word I say!! (could be the devonian accent).
I said 'call work' it said 'calling 999' I managed to hit it with a brick before it actually did call 999 !!!
Anyone suggest something that actually works (flawlessly). I dont mind training it if that means its gonna work!
Nigel
"microsoft voice command" all the way.
Thing is that it doesn't support dutch, but it does support english, german and american, so if you speak any of these languages you will have to get this program.
Dunno about the trial version, but the full version requires you to pronounce right. You can test this by letting someone call you first so you can hear how the program expects you how to pronounce it. (I have dutch names and they are completely different when pronounced by the voice command)
Hope this helps.
I've flashed my MDA Pro with the I-Mate JASJAR rom, and the standard voice dial on that works like a charm!
It even work from my Jabra BT800!
Grrrrr
I'm a native English speaker and it dont ruddy understand me!!
Sounds like many people here have gone for the JasJar rom on their devices. I guess I will give this a go - I just dont want to end up with a useless brick.
Nigel
MS Voice Command - works for me on my jas jar via my moto BT headset even in the car when driving (i.e. with plenty background noise).
If you follow the tips on the MS VC website it makes it even more reliable.
The HTC voicedial program works great for me, and complies with my HS810 headset without any issues whatsoever. In fact it's even recognised my commands with music running in the background. I've tried MSVC in the past on other XDA's and found it to be rather cumbersome.
Ant
I found that Microsoft Voice command when started via bluetooth headset does not turn the link off when it's finished.
The way i got this to work with BT was to replace the file sddialer.exe in the windows folder with the voicecmd.exe file from MS VC.
Does anyone else know a better way of doing this to allow for the BT headset to be turned off automatically once listening is finished ?
Voicedial works, I just find it really slow. It is 100% reliable on the recognition front though.
What I noticed with voice command was an instant response. Press the button and speak, no wait of any kind for the 'beep'.
Voice command simply sticks an icon on the task bar, it does not have to load some monster gui before you can speak. Ditching the gui would be a step forward for the built in voicedial.
Nigel
steverae said:
I found that Microsoft Voice command when started via bluetooth headset does not turn the link off when it's finished
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Hi
How did you get voice command to respond to the bluetooth headset in the first place?
With VC installed, the button on my BT headset is still starting the old HTC voicedial software.
Is there some registry setting somewhere to tell it what to launch?
Nigel
Yes there is a simple registry hack, it's posted else where in these forums but here it is again
Install Voice Command to the default location.
Fire up a registry editor
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Modify the string marked "path" from the default \Windows\SDDialer.exe to \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe
This works for me and everyone else who has tried it AFAIK
Hi
How did you get voice command to respond to the bluetooth headset in the first place?
With VC installed, the button on my BT headset is still starting the old HTC voicedial software.
Is there some registry setting somewhere to tell it what to launch?
Nigel
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I simply replace the file sddialer.exe with the voicecmd.exe and renamed the voicecmd.exe to sddialer.exe. After a softreset that's it.
Still can't fathom out a way to close the BT link though without doing it manunally from the headset.
Also does anyone have Fonix Voice Central installed on their Universal, i always get an error saying unsigned program or summit like that when i try to install the trial.
voicedial
I am italian mother tongue. Cyberon voicedial works incredibly well. I tried vito's program in the past. Average it could recognize 10%.
The cyb's software is awsome. I use it with a Jabra BT800 headset and recognize voice even in noisy environment.
Must tell that I am very satisfied with my JJ. Absolutely no problems in any way.
Installing unsigned apps on WM5
Trying to install Fonix Voice Central 3.0 Trial on my new Universal but keep getting an error stating unable to install as it is from a untrusted source or is an unsigned program.
Please help
Hi
OK, so its more reliable when using the bluetooth headset - it even understands devonian! BUT and this is a big but... why the heck does it not work when the device is closed (screen inside) and switched off??
Nuts... I get the beep from voice command after pressing button on the headset, but it ignores what I say. Performing the same thing with the screen open laptop or pda style (with device switched off) works fine, but not with the ruddy screen closed.
Anyone else experienced this?? Screen closed it how my device stays most of the time.
I see what people have been saying about it leaving the bluetooth channel open after as well - mad!
Nigel
Voice command does not respond when unit closed
Hi
Voice command not responding when unit closed (screen inside), and using button on BT headset.
Has no-one else found this, and if it works for them can they post rom versions. Certainly does not work on MDA Pro shipped rom!
When unit open, or screen folded outside PDA style, VC does respond to BT headset fine. Just not when its closed.
Nigel
I have imate JJ italian rom.
Works perfectly with Jabra BT800 and device switched off (screen closed down).
No problem at all!
Thanks - looks like a bug in the ancient MDA Pro software.
I was holding off flashing it with imate roms case I heard a rumour that t-mobile are about to release a new rom soon which may be newer again I suppose.
Nigel
Well, I put the imate rom on there and that did not solve it. Voice command does not work from bluetooth headset when unit closed. It gives me the beep prompt to say its listening, but it never responds. Open screen and all is well.
Save me some money anyway, no point in buying Voice Command if it does not work properly!
Nigel
veletron said:
Voicedial works, I just find it really slow. It is 100% reliable on the recognition front though.
What I noticed with voice command was an instant response. Press the button and speak, no wait of any kind for the 'beep'.
Voice command simply sticks an icon on the task bar, it does not have to load some monster gui before you can speak. Ditching the gui would be a step forward for the built in voicedial.
Nigel
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Ive just been using the bog standard voice recognition. No problems at all, even works with background noise.
Im guessing that some people havent read instructions properly
The HTC software that comes with the device does work (reliably) its just too slow to be of any use.
10 secs to respond when unit is off/closed. If I dont get a prompt response i'll press the button on the headset again which seems to confuse the hell out of it.
This is my reason for trying voice command... Response time from voice command (from unit off) is 2 secs max. Unfortunately it does not ruddy well work when lid is closed (no matter whether unit is on/off).
Nigel
Hi,
i can't use the BTAudioToogle Tool for my XDA trion.
Someone the same problem ?
or better:
Someone with a solution here ?
Same for me. I have enabled BTaudiotoggle, I can hear the headset (Motorola HS850) go live but the audio either from WM player or TCMP still comes from the speaker and not the headset.
Hope someone comes up with the answer soon.
Rob
Got the same problem. No sound from BT.
Had something similiar to this with my old unit, to fully enable it I would hit the headset button (which now starts up voice command, let it time out, and then play whatever music i wanted to. I would verify that now but i am at work, and don't think they would appreciate the music blaring if i am wrong on this one
When I hit the button on the headset, it starts the Voice Dialer, the audio cuts in for a second or two, then drops back to the device speaker.
It nearly works, hope someone can hack this soon, just whats needed for podcasts and the like. No good for music tho!
Rob
I would also be very interested in a solution to this problem as I used to use BTaudiotoggle to listen to Tomtom commands in the car (normally have the music too loud to hear the commands through the loudspeaker ).
Worked great with my XDA Mini S but doesn't work with my new MDA Vario II and I didn't really want to have to buy stereo headphones, just wanted to be able to use my standard mono bluetooth headset like before.
If there is no way of using this program, are there any other programs that will send all audio to a mono BT Headset?
yep would really like an updated version of BTaudio too so i can listen to some audio books via my mono headset
You should test the trial version of bluemusic from teksoftco.
www.teksoftco.com . It gives ou a full help file on how to use the software and you have 30 sec to test that it working. I know that it works on the devices having TI Omap processors so it should work for all of you guys.
Cheers,
Raul
Just tried it out. It does the same thing that the other sotware does, mainly enable the headset where you can hear a hiss out of it, but still kees playing out of the back speaker.
My experience is a rassah's. All the Bluemusic software appears to do on my Vario II is cause the bluetooth headset to hiss slightly (whilst sound is still blasted out of the phone's speaker).
Also FWIW the teksoftco site doesn't appear to work too well on the PIE browser - defaulting to a no frames version with just a login box as far as I can see.
Needless to say I have uninstalled the software again.
Rufus.
@RufusA and @rassah guys you should check if you don't have the same problem as ulischultz in this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61739
We already tested the software with him on his treo device and as you can see in the thread " after pressing the button on the headset, the sound was redirected". This is mentioned in the help section of the software. ( on the universal/exec for example this step is not needed)
@RufusA - thanks for visiting the ppc version of the webpage (which is still under construction) - even though the subject is irelevant in this topic. I will send you a PM when its finished and tell me your opinion then (even though you have to admit that not many companies have a ppc version of their website - not to mention the smaller ones like ours).
If the problem still persists there is an opened thread on the forum :
http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162
Please submit all the malfunctionality and we will fix them.
Cheers,
rain
I downloaded the trial too and had the same problem as before unfortunately.
I did get a little further in so much as, if I pressed the call button on my BT Headset as per the instructions, I could get the music/audio transferred to the headset for approx. 5 seconds but then it would revert back to the phones loudspeaker. I couldn't get the 30 seconds that the trial software advertises
Fingers crossed someone will be able to work out a fix for this soon.
Thanks Nicky for the input. As i see the problem of bt headset being disconnected after 5-10 sec is a general one (and unfortunatelly is a problem in the RUU). We are trying to find a workarround with ulischultz but wouldn't want to get to driver level as clearly it will be fixed by HTC in the next RUU release if they don't want this devices smashed to their heads.
I will keep you updated if we find a solution for the interrupt issue.
Regards,
Raul
Solution
I have identified a solution to this which is working nearly perfectly for me. However, if you do use this then using the BT headset to trigger the voice dial/voice command/voice commander will no longer work.
Acquire a copy of of the BTAudioToggle software inc. BTAudioOn.exe
Copy this to a location on the phone.
Using a registry editor amend the following entries from
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Path = location of BTAudioOn.Exe
e.g. Path = \Program Files\BTAudio\BTAudioOn.Exe
VoiceCmdDuration = 86400 (DEC) = 24 hours
This says for how long (in seconds) the audio will be passed to the headset for before timing out.
This however, will timeout earlier if no audio is coming through. I am not sure what will happen if something like TomTom is running but not speaking for a while. I have not performed timings as yet.
To activate audio through headset, press the main control button of the headset as if answering call/activating voice command etc. To deactivate, just press the button again.
Voice control apps will still work, but must be triggered from the phone itself, but voice will be picked up by the BT headset.
There appear to be some small bugs with this, such as after a phone call, using headset or not, the audio will stop being passed after hangup.
Please let me know if this work for you!
Looks an interesting solution. I've installed BTAudioOn on my storage card, and changed the VoiceCommand Path entry.
However I couldn't find a VoiceCmdDuraion entry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
so I've added a new DWord of that name with the value 86400.
Yet this doesn't appear to have made a significant difference i.e. Pressing talk button on Jabra headset produces 10 secs of sound before "timing" out.
Have I made a mistake, or do I need to have something else installed to get this to work?
TIA - Rufus.
I was going to try and make the suggested changes to the registry but I don't know how and am not sure what program I need to do it.
Could someone please let me know what program I need to install to be able to change the registry?
Thanks
Vs1979:
IT REALLY WORKS!!!!!!!!!
I can't tell you how happy I am!!!!
I did it the way you described it. However I also did not have an entry "VoiceCmdDuration" I created the DWORD-entry and it works now!
Great!
Thanks very much for that great solution!
@RufusA
As i gave you the link to the other thread you're not the only user experiencing this. There are several others complaining about this RUU bug.
@Nicky
You need to install a ppc 2005 regeditor (for example Resco Explorer has one built in, or you can find one on buzzdev site).
RufusA said:
Looks an interesting solution. I've installed BTAudioOn on my storage card, and changed the VoiceCommand Path entry.
However I couldn't find a VoiceCmdDuraion entry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
so I've added a new DWord of that name with the value 86400.
Yet this doesn't appear to have made a significant difference i.e. Pressing talk button on Jabra headset produces 10 secs of sound before "timing" out.
Have I made a mistake, or do I need to have something else installed to get this to work?
TIA - Rufus.
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Hi,
Did you Soft reset your device?
I made the registry change only, have not installed BTAudioOn and all my Voice command Audio etc... now comes through the headset and does not time out after a few seconds. I did find though that decreasing this value to lets say 60, would actually time the audio feed out even if not in use so I have stuck in a huge figure, will still need to do more testing to see if drains the battery any quicker and see if I can find another stirng which will do more for me.
Hi,
it work not for me
i have changed the path to \xx\BTAudioOn.EXE
i have add the VoiceDuration = 86400 (DWord DEC)
but it is the same problem, after 2 seconds the sound goes back to PPC.
Apologies if this is an FAQ, but I've had a quick look and drawn a blank.
I've just got my first Windows mobile phone (Vario II) and one of the things I really miss compared to my old Nokia, is that when I connect my bluetooth headset, I'd like the phone to switch to 'auto answer' and for the volume to be set to max. When I disconnect the headset, I'd like the phone to refert to a 'normal' or 'general' profile.
I require this because I use it on a motorcycle in conjunction with an intercom system, and I need the phone to auto answer after say 2 rings.
Is this possible on a smartphone?
Regards,
Glenn
Join the club mate......
I've been using the Vario2 in combination with a Nolan N-102 with the N-comm BT kit on it.....
I've been #$^&# with it for weeks now and I've made some progression...
First you need a program that allows you to select profiles like Nokia used to have...
I use PocketzenPhone but maybe there are some other(better) programs to do that.....
So then u can swith to a bike profile I've made and enable auto answer....
I've run the cab file to redirect BT sounds to my helmet in stereo (floats somewhere on this forum)
The only thing I can't do at the moment is enable Voicedial from the helmet...
If I press the button designed to start it ........f%ck all happens....
Still working on that but I'm running out of ideas....so any help would be appreciated...
Danny.
Pdanny said:
Join the club mate......
I've been using the Vario2 in combination with a Nolan N-102 with the N-comm BT kit on it.....
I've been #$^&# with it for weeks now and I've made some progression...
First you need a program that allows you to select profiles like Nokia used to have...
I use PocketzenPhone but maybe there are some other(better) programs to do that.....
So then u can swith to a bike profile I've made and enable auto answer....
I've run the cab file to redirect BT sounds to my helmet in stereo (floats somewhere on this forum)
The only thing I can't do at the moment is enable Voicedial from the helmet...
If I press the button designed to start it ........f%ck all happens....
Still working on that but I'm running out of ideas....so any help would be appreciated...
Danny.
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Hi, the reason you can't activate voice dialing from your headset might be to do with the BT Audio cab you have installed to redirect sound through your headset. If the cab you have installed is the most common one floating around then this actually disables the launch of voice dialing in favour of being able to toggle between sound in the headset and sound on the phone (pressing and holding down the call button for a few seconds on your headset normally).
If you look in the registry HKLM>software>OEM>voicecommand, if launchapenable has a value of 0 then it is disabled. You can enable it again by changing the value to 1 but this will mean that your headset button will now not work as an audio toggle feature because it will launch the voicedial software every time.
Not sure if this is the answer to your problem but it sounds like it might be, hope this helps
Am trying as we speak....thanks for the reply....see wat happens...
D.
Well.....Ive got good news and bad news....
The good news is that I can trigger voicecommand now......
The bad news is that MS voice command 1.6 is not reconizing my accent...(dutch)...
So out of 10 tries it never called the number i wanted.....
So I tried the build in SDdialer.....and that one is doing a better job....
However I can't make the sounds to stick in my helmet........
I mean...
With MSVC by pressing the button on the helmet I could redirect the sound to the helmet and get a voicecommand tone at the same time....
By symply not speaking or saying '"cancel" it would cancel the voicecommand but the sound stayed in the helmet.....
With SDdialer following the same steps as above the sounds does not stay in the helmet but goes back to the speaker......
Any ideas????
BTW is there a dutch version of MS voice command?
If you go back into the registry, in the same location as before, check the value that is in VoiceCmdDuration (This is the amount of time the voice prompt stays active for in seconds) .. the audio cab file usually sets this to 86400 (24 hrs in seconds), if yours is low eg. 10, 20, 30 etc.., set it to 86400 and that may sort out the problem.
Duration is set fort 24 hrs....already..
Funny thing is that MSVC is not cutting out and the sddialer is...
Regsetting stay the same.....
By pressing the button on helmet I just change the exe file.....
Only option is to try and get MsVC to work and get use to my voice....
D.
Hmmm booking slow process.....tryed to call with MsVC and now 2 out 2....
Ordered to play media from helmet......worked..
This is only sitting in the livingroom with helmet on.....looks absolutely silly but thats besides the point
P$ssing with rain here so hoping for better weather to go for a roadtest...
So thing needed for me to get it to work...
-MsVC 1.6
-Bluetooth stereo cab
-Regedit from the MsVC topic..
-PocketzenPhone for designing profiles.....however thinking on removing that...and see how that works.....
D.
I am glad that you are at least part way there to solving the problem
I don't have Voice Command on my phone. On the rare occasion I use voice dialling I use the standard SDdialer program but my sound diversion does not revert back to the handset like yours.
I must have changed something on it to get it working but I am afraid I don't know what because, when I was trying to get it working, I tried absolutely everything and it was quite a while ago now so I have forgotten what I did
It sounds like Voice Command is going to be okay for you though so that is good.
By the way, Phonealarm is also another good profile switching program.
Thanks for the replies guys, but I think I may have accidentally discovered my own solution.
On my T-mobile vario II, if I go to the Phone->Settings and select the 'more' tab (need to scroll along the last tab at the bottom of the screen) there is an option to 'Automatic pickup' which will auto answer a call after x number of rings.
I had always assumed this would kick-in even if no headset was present. However, I've just done some simple testing, and it looks like the auto answer only kicks-in if the phone is currently in comms with a headset (I used a bluetooth one but probably the same for the supplied 'hands free' kit).
So this functions exactly as I want it to.
Oh, and Pdanny, for background info I'm using a Nolan 101 (no bluetooth) with speakers and mic installed. These connect to my 'Starcom' intercom (via an old fasioned curly lead) which allows me to hear directions from my 'TomTom' and also take phone calls via the starcom/phone bluetooth partnership. Down side is that the wife can also talk at me .
As I never want to initiate a call while riding, this setup works just perfect for me. I don't need to remember to change the phone setup either before or after mounting the bike. As soon as the bike ignition is turned on, the intercom partners with the phone. Then if I receive a call, it auto answers and I can take the call. Once the ignition is switched off, the phone reverts to normal non-auto answer.
In my research for this issue I came across an app called 'phonealarm' (from pocketmax.net), it was the manual for this that made me try the above experiment. This looks like a neat app and I may still end up installing it as long as it does not hog the processor.
[edit]OOps sorry Nicky, just noticed you already mentioned phonealarm. I'd be interested in any comments you have about this app, good ot bad [/edit]
Once again, thanks for the replies, and I hope this thread helps someone in the future.
Regards,
Glenn
Phonealarm......give that a try thanks.....
Im also going to test with the buils in auto pick up.....
I knew it was there but i assumed that it would ALWAYS auto pick up...
It seems that that is not the case therefore making the Pocketzenphone and possibly phonealarm obsolete.....
I also get all the sounds over BT in my helmet....incl TT
Also... I don't have a wife .......sounds like a perfect world hey???
Keep you posted on the outcome of the xperiment....
Grtz
Danny
Hi knnelg, glad you managed to sort your problem. I always knew the option for autoanswer was in the settings but like you, I had assumed that it would autoanswer all calls regardless of whether a headset was connected so it is handy to know that it only applies when in headset mode.
You asked about opinions on Phonealarm, I think it is a great program. I have used it on my Vario II and my last phone, an XDA Mini S, and it is has always worked fine, no problems at all.
I really missed having phone profiles when I switched to PDA style phones so Phonealarm was one of the first 3rd party apps I ever bought and I wouldn't be without it now Also, Bruce, the developer of phonealarm, is very good at listening to users input and if enough people make a suggestion about an improvement or tweak to the program, he will implement it in future versions which is really nice.
One of the other programs Pocketmax does, Alarmtoday, is useful too.
I have had the Sprint Touch for 2 weeks now and really miss MS Voice Command.
Anyone have it working and what are the steps ?
Scott
anywhereanytime said:
I have had the Sprint Touch for 2 weeks now and really miss MS Voice Command.
Anyone have it working and what are the steps ?
Scott
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Just install it. MS Voice Command 1.6 works just fine
no problem with call anouncement,or voice confirmation over BT?
imradar said:
no problem with call anouncement,or voice confirmation over BT?
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No prob with my Motorola HT820 and my S9. Call anounce works just fine and even reads my text messages
Thanks for the replies ... I just bought a Blue Ant Z9 and will report once I install it.
I really miss MS Voice Command also, there are three major issues.
1. Any speech or announcements from Voice Command via BT (Bluetooth) have very low volume.
2. Bluetooth dialing confirmation when confirming a number to call is not recognized most if not all of the time.
3. After pressing the button to start voice command, many times you will not hear the beep over the phones internal speaker or over bluetooth. It seams that the phone delays opening up the sound channel a second or so, and the beep is never heard.
I would love to see workaround or fixes to these.
Only #2 has a work around by disabling confirmations.
Blue Ant Z9
Today I played with my new Blue Ant Z9 headset - GREAT headset.
Using the Z9, VC understands the initial command whether it's dialing, help, start, etc. But, when VC repeats the command, VC times out.
Where do you turn notifications OFF - I could only see under the VC menu where you could chose either Bluetooth or wired/device speaker ?
Anyone using a Z9 successfully - I have firmware v3.0
I contacted Z9 tech support and they will be monitoring this thread to see if they can help find a solution ... but it's probably VC itself.
Scott
Uninstall the Cyberon Voice Dialer
I recall reading on either the Titan/Mogul thread or the HTC Elf/Touch thread something about the bluetooth "voice command" path being directed to the Cyberon and that it must be changed somehow to allow VC to work properly?
I disabled the Cyberon Speed Dialer, but can't find how to remove it. Does anyone know how to remove the Cyberon "Dialer" software?
Scott
VC 1.6 WORKS - but NOT with Bluetooth
Today I played some more and VC 1.6 definitely works over the speaker and built-in mic - VERY COOL - BUT, NOT with bluetooth (we are using the Blue Ant Z9)
SAME PROBLEM reported across many threads - when VC 1.6 "confirms" the command, it then hangs up (turns off listening)
This seems to be a common problem across many HTC devices, so I searched quite a lot and found this under the Hermes thread.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
ANY EXPERTS OUT THERE to give this a try and report back ??
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How to make Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 work (WM5 & WM6 tested!).
(caution, this MAY disable all incoming call notifications over the speaker and obviously doesn't route the notifications to the headset - that's a MS stack problem...)
NB The 'Program Files' directory mentioned several times below, may be different on non-english language versions of WM (see below).
Install VC 1.6 (make sure it is in Main memory)
Download Bluetooth Voice Command 0.9f.cab here - related forum thread
Download ?BTVoiceCommand.exe here - related forum thread
Download replacement btagext.dll here (Unknown if this works with WM6?) - related forum thread
Run .9f Hack
Create the Folder \Program Files\Bluetooth Voice Command (should be created during the .9f cab install)
Copy ?BTVoiceCommand.exe and btagext.dll into this folder
Go to newly created BT Voice Command config (in Programs) and tick the check box "Enabled"
Set command duration to 30 (or more - check by experiment when set up)
Set or check that the following registry keys are set (I had to manually change Path to ?BTVoiceCommand.exe.)
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\?VoiceCommand\Path = "\Program Files\Bluetooth Voice Command\?BTVoiceCommand.exe"
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\?VoiceCommand\?VoiceCmdDuration = 30
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\?AudioGateway\?BTAGExtModule = "\Program Files\Bluetooth Voice Command\btagext.dll"
a. (For reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283412&page=7 )
*Go into the registry (HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\?VoiceCommand\) and set ?LaunchAPEnable to 1 (I wasn't sure if this was necessary...but it's working now)
Soft reset device
Delete Headset Pairing
Recreate Headset Pairing.
*NOTE: first time you invoke voice command using BT headset button, you may get the "run this program yes/no?" option on your screen. You have to QUICKLY hit "yes" or your phone will have to be soft reset to exit the prompt.
Set Side button to ?VoiceCommand (if desired for backup when using Mortscript described below)
You may also need to create the directory \Program Files\Bluetooth Voice Command and move the files over if you live in a different country and MS installs everything to something similar - like Programme...
WM6 specific:
If using the .09f file downloaded from the link above, the registry key should look slightly different:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\?VoiceCommand\Path = "\Program Files\Bluetooth Voice Command\BTVCBasic.exe"
You may still encounter a problem where approx 15 s after initiating a call using MSVC from your headset button, the sound is routed back to the handset. A subsequent press on the button usually reroutes the sound to the headset, but sometimes disconnects the call instead. We are hoping for a fix for this.
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Today I played some more and VC 1.6 definitely works over the speaker and built-in mic - VERY COOL - BUT, NOT with bluetooth (we are using the Blue Ant Z9)
SAME PROBLEM reported across many threads - when VC 1.6 "confirms" the command, it then hangs up (turns off listening)
This seems to be a common problem across many HTC devices, so I searched quite a lot and found this under the Hermes thread.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
ANY EXPERTS OUT THERE to give this a try and report back ??
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Gave it a try tonight. The hack does still work, but doens't give us anything more than what we already have. While it will launch voice command, it still has a problem with confirmations. I am thinking that the BT stack on the touch is having a problem with this. It beeps, waits for input, then responds, then waits for input again. Somehow with this 2nd input something goes wrong. I have not had confirmations work once for me over bluetooth.
I am waiting on my Touch to get there and this is very important to me.
If confirmations are turned off, does it work properly?
fowen said:
I am waiting on my Touch to get there and this is very important to me.
If confirmations are turned off, does it work properly?
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Please read message #6. Other than those issues it functions.
Anyone get VC 1.6 to work with a Blue Ant Z9 BT headset yet ??
I have the vogue and the Jawbone with VC 1.6 - sametime out problems as listed before, however, when you go to settings>VC>phone and turn confirmation off it works absolutely perfectly w/o a hitch. I hit the button, it plays through the headset - I name the perp - it announces the name and dials...no issues what so ever. I think this is an acceptable fix and if the name does not come through you can just hang up quickly and try again... I'd rather do this then hack it given there is no confirmation that it works.
So yes... VC 1.6 work through BT w/ confirmation set to off.
jessiethe3rd said:
I have the vogue and the Jawbone with VC 1.6 - sametime out problems as listed before, however, when you go to settings>VC>phone and turn confirmation off it works absolutely perfectly w/o a hitch. I hit the button, it plays through the headset - I name the perp - it announces the name and dials...no issues what so ever. I think this is an acceptable fix and if the name does not come through you can just hang up quickly and try again... I'd rather do this then hack it given there is no confirmation that it works.
So yes... VC 1.6 work through BT w/ confirmation set to off.
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I tried it with my Blue Ant Z9 and it does not work without a hitch - the volume is very low and it does not seem to get the perp correct even most of the time. I will do some more experimenting and contact Blue Ant tech support.
I got my Blue Ant Z9 working ... there is a delay when you press the Multifunction button of several seconds and I had to watch the screen to see whan VC came on.
The dial and call "work" only the first time - if you say Call Jack and there are multiple numbers for Jack, VC asks Call Jack at Work or Mobile (say there are both). If you respond and say Call Mobile - VC hangs up just like before the turn off confirmation.
However, if you say Call Jack at Work, VC correctly calls the number.
Are you able to go multiple levels of recognition on the Jawbone ??
I'll take what I can get for now.
Oh, yes when someone calls me that is in my contacts I get NO notification or Caller iD - is that one of the things that still doesn't work ??
I recently saw this on the Titan thread - anyone know if the Sprint Touch and Sprint Mogul are the same ?
Anyone get the caller ID announce to work yet ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352638
Hi,
I still cannot get it to launch with my Jawbone BT headset...
I tried the instructions...
Anyone have anything to help me further?
LIP
Motorola H500 with MSVC1.6 is fully funtional even on confirm call, mobile/home etc