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Complete guide to make TT5 work with a BT GPS on the JasJar

There are 3 key steps in making TomTom 5 work on an i-mate JasJar with a Bluetooth GPS.
Many tips are scattered around in different Forums.
Here is a COMPLETE overview of what to do.
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM (eg F:\PocketPC) to the JasJar and launch one by one from there with the explorer of the JasJar.
You can install voices the same manner by copying the CAB files to the Jasjar (eg from F:\Voice on the CDROM)
STEP 2 : UPGRADE TO V5.1
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
Extract and copy the files to a folder on the JasJar and install them from there.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
REMAINING PROBLEM
TomTom will only connect to the BT GPS when the Phone is switched on.
If you want to use your integrated car phone and just use the JasJar as GPS, you need to switch the Phone antenna off on the JasJar and the Bluetooth radio on (for the GPS connection). This worked perfectly before with TT3 and my i-mate PDA2K but now I am forced to activate the phone radio on the JasJar meaning that I can not use my car phone anymore !
I think it is a TT problem as I am able to connect to the GPS with other software without the phone radio switched on.
Any suggestions are welcome to solve this !

THANK YOU!

Hey i think i got something wrong in the registry :? I have:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Setings
Then in there i have: defualt value not set
and
Group 0x2 (2)
I can't see a gps pael in my connection settings.Please help!!!!

jaythemagician said:
Hey i think i got something wrong in the registry :? I have:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Setings
Then in there i have: defualt value not set
and
Group 0x2 (2)
I can't see a gps pael in my connection settings.Please help!!!!
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I thought the same at first when I did it, no GPS panel. You have to make sure you exit the registry editor properly by Tools -> Exit, this saves the sertting. Then you need perform a soft reset of your device - after this, the GPS panel was now displayed on mine. Let us know how you get on

cheers for that sl9. Now my only poblem is getting it working.No matter what i do all i have in other bluetooth is:
qct data interface
RIL on COM6
COM7
serial cable on COM1
Infrared port
Ir on COM3
Any ideas?cheers

Follow the instructions in that post exactly and you should see COM0 appear in tomtom's GPS configuration screen... Try doing a hard reset, then try again. It does work

soft reset in between
I had trouble installing TT. My solution was: between every install/registry change: do a soft reset. Then do the next step and soft reset and so on...
Now it works like a charm!

jasjar crash
hi i follow ur guide but it crash all the time plz help

I tried to install TT5 and i have tried every way to do it but it will not install the ttn.cab it fails every time, i have soft reset after each cab install removed the sd card anyone any ideas
thanks
Chris

jaythemagician:
Open the file \Program Files\Navigator\navigator.cfg with an editor, you will see "COM7", change it to another COM port. In my case I changed it to "COM4" and now my JASJAR can connect to the Bluetooth GPS.

can't seem to find that in the reistry....

no, not in the registry, "navigator.cfg" is a file in the filesystem. Use windows explorer, have active sync running, then you find the file in "Mobile Device->My Windows Mobile-Based Device->\Program Files\Navigator" catalog

not quite related but when i installed TTN5.1 landscape would work, since update, on the reinstall the rotate menu option is now just a turn picture upside down so it dosent work in landscape anymore, ive tried clearing all traces and installing twice since update now

sorted it. Thanks everyone. One more thing....why does it run so slooooooow

How did you guys install your maps? Normal setup, or another way?

maps are in folders on root of SD card, ie Great-Britain-Map, TTN5.1 just see's them and you choose it during the installation wizard on the JJ

hi Parw
what editor u use to open navigator.cfg file because i used notepad nad wordpad i can see only the boxes
Regards
Gugi

Hello,
How can I install the folder "voices" because this folder is not a ".cab" on my TT5 sd ?
Thanks for your help....

gugi_sat:
Two things:
1. If you don't see a COM port in the cfg file. Open tomtom and select COM7 in the GPS configuration. Close tomtom, the cfg file should now have been updated with the new port setting.
2. To be sure that you don't mess with the cfg file use a hexeditor. You will find one here -> http://www.hhdsoftware.com/free-hex-editor.html#Download

Hi parw
thanx for reply
i am not able to go that far in tomtom because it just stop after wizards
and i am using wired tomtom gps.
Please read my post below which explain the problem i have
http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=5377&catid=26
Regards
Gugi

Getting TTN5 an BT GPS to work on k-jam?

There are only 2 com ports to use for outgoing in bt settings on k-jam com6 and com7. How do we go about getting the bt working for this?
regards

here are 3 key steps in making TomTom 5 work on an i-mate K-JAM with a Bluetooth GPS.
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM (eg F:\PocketPC) to the K-JAM and launch one by one from there with the explorer of the K-JAM
.
You can install voices the same manner by copying the CAB files to the K-JAM (eg from F:\Voice on the CDROM)
STEP 2 : UPGRADE TO V5.1
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
Extract and copy the files to a folder on the K-JAM and install them from there.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 6.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 6 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
orignal posting here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&highlight=tomtom+5+wm2005+gtps

thereaperman said:
here are 3 key steps in making TomTom 5 work on an i-mate JasJar with a Bluetooth GPS.
Many tips are scattered around in different Forums.
Here is a COMPLETE overview of what to do.
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM (eg F:\PocketPC) to the JasJar and launch one by one from there with the explorer of the JasJar.
You can install voices the same manner by copying the CAB files to the Jasjar (eg from F:\Voice on the CDROM)
STEP 2 : UPGRADE TO V5.1
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
Extract and copy the files to a folder on the JasJar and install them from there.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
REMAINING PROBLEM
TomTom will only connect to the BT GPS when the Phone is switched on.
If you want to use your integrated car phone and just use the JasJar as GPS, you need to switch the Phone antenna off on the JasJar and the Bluetooth radio on (for the GPS connection). This worked perfectly before with TT3 and my i-mate PDA2K but now I am forced to activate the phone radio on the JasJar meaning that I can not use my car phone anymore !
I think it is a TT problem as I am able to connect to the GPS with other software without the phone radio switched on.
orignal posting here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&highlight=tomtom+5+wm2005+gtps
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sorry to but in, but works slightly diferently for me as i also only had com6 & 7 to choose from
hope this makes sense
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
ps took a couple of resets before the new gps icon would show in connections, also after editing the reg you must exit the program otherwise the changes arnt saved

thanks for that. I managed to get running on the jasjar,just the.k-jam that stumped me. aoane more quesrion though when you set your gps to 6 do you set your bt to com7?
thanks again

sorry, where are you talking about? in bt comports outgoing is set to (com6)

I have changed my orignal post to mach how it works on the K-JAM(so some people do not get confused :wink: )

thanks, now you made my post after your altered original one :? look like i'm talking a load of rubbish!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
maybe i should edit my post so my quote of your quote is the same?
is there an emotion available scratching it's head? :lol:

My tt voice is not working.....
HELP

have you gone into the voice section of tomtom to see if there are any voices to select from and test?

there are no voices to test...but they are instaled

check my blog, all answers revealed, voices and bluetooth, etc.
www.beyondthetech.com/blogs/kjam

when you say :
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
First I don't see any KEY called HIDE ??
I do adda DWORD called GROUP under ...../GPS/ with value 2 (decimal)
I did 8 reset and I still don't see the GPS under settings/connection ???
how can I have it show ?
thanks

help please !!! :shock:

first of all make sure you do use the exit from the reg edit program you have used, otherwise changes are not saved.
then do as you already have, a soft reset.
on mine it a couple of resets for the new icon to appear.
good luck

yes I verify the change is made.
I already did 10 soft reset still don't see GPS icon ??

I din't have a hide to remove when I went into the registry,
if i now go into
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
ControlPanel
GPS Settings
i have
(Default) (value not set)
Group 0x2 (2)
and back in the real world in Settings i now have 8 icons, including one new one called GPS
perhaps instead of doing a soft reset, turn the kjam completely off and see if that helps

finally managed to get tomtom 5.1 working on the wizard.. phew
Now there's one thing regarding voices: tt only seems to recognize voices in the \tomtom\tomtom\ folder (in main memory). I'd like to put the voices on the storage card, but haven't found a way to get it to recognize additional voices there. creating a \voices dir on the sd card didn't work -- any other tweaks (main memory is kinda limited after all)?

hey guys, any of you having trouble with adding your maps?
My maps now say they need activating. It never said that before.
Cheers

Trying to follow this sionce I got it initally working and now failed
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
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basically - in TT5 v5.21 I dont have under option 4 - I dont have a com port of 6 under other Bluetooth GPS
Any ideas?
Scott

TT Nav 5 Port from XDA 2 to Wizard
I have an XDA 2 now with TomTom on. If I transfer the software across as above and then change my device code with TomTom should everything work (e.g. Traffic updates, etc.) ??
<Fingers crossed>
TIA Dave.

tomtom navigator 3

After having many troubles and failing to get tomtom 5 running on my mini s.
Just like to know if tomtom navigator 3 is compattable with mini s?
I can get original software on cd with major roads of europe for £30.

Not sure if it works. if it does you will have to copy the cabs over manually as the installer will almost certainly not work.
On a side not, personal experience with TTN3 & BT GPS was very bad, so bad infact that i ditched my TTN3 and used an old copy of 2 until i replaced my GPS with a wired (was CF in an iPaq).
Maybe it was a fault with the iPaq BT stack but i used to get random disconnects while driving and it basically made TTN3 useless. Just a point as you cant use a wired GPS with the Wizard...
Also, if you need help with TTN5 read the current posts, and if you still have problems make a new post saying what you have done, and what you are having problems/errors with.

For me it was easy to make TT5 running on my Wizard. I wrote this about installation (sorry, it's in french and I will soon add some printscreen)
here is the link

I used this guide and got Tomtom 5 working a treat hope this helps
Surefire method of installing TomTom Navigator on your K-JAM
This post is in no offense to anyone who has previously posted a quick tutorial or a quick-and-dirty method of installing TomTom Navigator 5.10 on the K-JAM (or Windows Mobile 5.0 for that matter), but there has been a lot of inconsistencies with where files are to be placed, how things should be installed and in what order, and if some steps need to be performed or not. In addition, the fact that it's likely coming from people who don't have English as a first language, it makes it very hard to follow otherwise simple directions on how to get this program properly installed and running on one's K-JAM.
Thus, I have detailed a step-by-step procedure based on completely on firsthand experience, and repeated for verification. It requires your K-JAM (obviously), your ActiveSync'ed desktop, your Bluetooth GPS device, and the original CAB/voice/map files. What is important in my method is that I did NOT have to perform any install of 5.00, followed by 5.10, and I did not have to perform any registry changes to enable the GPS applet in Windows Mobile 5.0, either.
Please keep in mind that TomTom Navigator 5.10 is not officially compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0, so you are not likely to get any support on the product on this OS.
Download the latest version of the TomTom Navigator application from their website.
Install the map files onto your mini-SD card. It should be placed right at the root, and will have a path on your K-JAM, such as:
\Storage Card\New-England_and_Mid-Atlantic-Map
Power on your Bluetooth GPS, and prepare it for pairing, if necessary.
Go to your Comm Manager and enable the Bluetooth radio on K-JAM and pair your Bluetooth GPS to it.
Once properly paired, put a check next to Serial Port as the device's available service.
Minimize the on-screen keyboard, if necessary, and click on the next tab labeled COM Ports.
Click New Outgoing Port and select COM6, while leaving Secured Connection still checked. Your device should now be listed with (COM6) next to it.
Install all the CAB files in the following order:
GPS.CAB - the conduit between TomTom and your Bluetooth COM port
PIMAddIn.CAB - the conduit between TomTom and your Outlook contacts
WZD.CAB - the Today plug-in (completely optional)
TTN.CAB - the actual application and data files
If you are getting any issues with installing any of the CAB files, try soft-resetting and launch the same CAB file again.
On your desktop, launch Notepad.
Type & \Storage Card\New-England_and_Mid-Atlantic-Map\ or whatever the name of your main map folder is on your mini-SD card. Do not forget to add the final backslash and a have a space between the ampersand and the first backslash.
Save the file as CurrentMap.dat. Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
Create a folder on your K-JAM called \My Documents\TomTom.
Copy your newly created CurrentMap.dat file from your desktop into \My Documents\TomTom on your K-JAM.
Create a folder on your K-JAM called \TomTom\TomTom. Yes, strangely enough, that is a TomTom folder under the TomTom folder on the root of the device.
Copy your (celebrity or standard) voice files into the \TomTom\TomTom folder.
Soft-reset your K-JAM to allow the Today plug-in to show up and the TomTom Navigator icon to appear in the Start Menu. If the Today plug-in doesn't show up, it's likely that it's simply disabled in the Today plug-ins list, and you can enable it later.
Launch TomTom Navigator.
Set up your preferences (left/right-hand, time format, voice, etc.)
Your map should now be automatically selected and loaded, based on steps 9-13.
Activate your map through the normal registration methods.
Configure your Bluetooth device as Other Bluetooth GPS and select COM6: as your port.
Confirm that your Bluetooth device is working by clicking on the GPS signal strength indicator on the bottom-right of the screen, then the same indicator on the right on the following screen.
That's it! Enjoy your TomTom Navigator on your K-JAM!
Credits:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=742385
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27641
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=160768
I hope this step-tested, detailed tutorial will be the end-all solution for everyone having issues in getting TomTom up and running on their K-JAMs, as I've been sharing the pain with everyone trying to get some sort of navigation software working on Windows Mobile 5.0. Now, you can take a breather and go travel somewhere with your new toy and not have to worry about surfing to MapQuest.com on an EDGE connection in the middle of nowhere.
By the way, my Bluetooth GPS device is the GlobalSat BT-338 GPS, a SiRF III device that can be picked up real cheap from MadMonkeyBoy. There is a firmware update to 3.1.1 available here.
NOTE: If you've tried the other methods posted elsewhere that instruct you to enable the GPS applet by modifying the registry and so forth, you can either hard reset your device and follow my step-by-step method above, or reverse their work by performing the following steps:
Go to the GPS applet under Settings.
Change both the GPS communication and hardware COM ports setting back to None.
Go to the last tab and uncheck "Manage GPS Automatically."
Lastly, disable the applet entirely by adding the Redirect null string value back to that GPS Settings key in the registry. (See those previous instructions to find the exact location in the registry and simply put back the entry you deleted or changed.)
Soft-reset your K-JAM for changes to take effect.
Remember, TomTom Navigator 5.10 is NOT designed for Windows Mobile 5.0 natively, so you can't expect the OS to manage something that older navigation software is not expecting the OS to.
Finally, if for whatever reason you're not able to communicate with your Bluetooth GPS properly because you're working from a failed install from previous instructions, try to delete the Outgoing COM Port entry, followed by the entire partnership between your K-JAM and the GPS device, then start again.
UPDATE: I have removed the link to the TomTom Navigator installer CAB files. You can visit www.tomtom.com and download it from there. Also, you can install the voices to the \Voices or \Storage Card\Voices folder.

Can an admin quote/copy the above post and sticky it for a couple of months - save a new "tomtom 5 help" post every few days.
Please?

But does Tomtom Navigator 3 work on Wizard? If so, how does one install it?

can anyone tell me about the WI FI???

hi
can anyone tell me what the wi fi on the Xda Exec is like before i buy one. i plan on using it to get online while at uni using their hotspot and wondered is it as easy to get online as using a pc? or if i will need to install something or upgrade the original software... bit of a N00B!!
thanks

If you know how to use it on your pc you won't have any problems using the Exec. You don't need to install anything for using it. You may have to install NET Compact Framework 2.0 if you want to use the latest wifi sniffers.

registry hacks
cool, i got my EXEC and cool bit of kit. but activesynch wont recognise the device but the issue im trying to get onto is the regitry hack.
i found this on the form;
"To change the ability to receive files via Bluetooth (OBEX)
* The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Obex'
* The 'IsEnabled' DWORD value should be set to '1' to enable OBEX and '0' to disable OBEX.
For example, to enable the ability to receive fles via Bluetooth
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Obex\IsEnabled = 1"
now when i type this in system path it says not found.
can anyone help please

you'll need a registry editor to do those changes,
Resco explorer comes with reg editor for example,
also have a look on the wiki for more ( lots more ) registry tweaks, that may take your fancy

reg edit
again appologies for being a noob but where can i get resco explorer?
am always nervious about downloading bad stuff
cheers

Do a google search?
Anyway, you can try the regedit here
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/regeditce.shtml
works for my WM5

Bluetooth Name Change Software

Here you will find a little tool to change your Device's Bluetooth name without going to the registry yourself.
http://gbit.ath.cx
It's free and more apps will be released.

Thanks. This is exactly the type of thing I could use.

Would it be possible to make a program to toggle on/off the "Wireless Stereo" and/or "Hands Free" services for a particular Bluetooth device automatically.
I created the attached Mortscript file to do it, but it is very slow and cumbersome. I use this to allow me to switch from my Plantronics headset to my JVC radio when I am in my car. The SendKeys("Settings","2") line in the mortscript code is used to pick the headset named 260Plantronics in my bluetooth devices list. I thought you could make it use a parameter to pass the device name to the program, so any device may be chosen. I use the registry reading part of Battery Status to show me if the headset service is enabled or not.
The registry keys for the devices is under HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device\???????????\Services\????????\enabled, where the first set of ?s is the device and the second set of ?s is the service. I tried changing the registry keys with mortscript but it doesn't affect the actual settings in the setting menu and the Plantronics is still connected. Even after a soft reset the Plantronics will still be connected even though the registry keys show 0 and the settings items are unchecked.
Code:
iscar=RegRead("HKLM","\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device\000389c44266\Services\0000111e-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb\","enabled")
Run("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\BlueSet.lnk")
WaitFor("Settings",10)
SendKeys("Settings","2")
Sleep(500)
SendCR("Settings")
Sleep(500)
MouseClick("Settings",17,109)
MouseClick("Settings",17,127)
Sleep(500)
MouseClick("Settings",195,308)
Sleep(500)
Close("Settings")
Exit

installation folder
i have eten glofiish m700 with WM6.1
i installed the CAB & it created a new folder on the main memory called \pogram files%provider% with the BlueName folder inside it
i believe it should have created the BlueName folder inside the original main program files folder, so i did a copy & paste of the BlueName there
It works fine & nice & light software..does exactly what it should do ... but i wanted to mention the "folder" destination error to you
Thanks again for the nice cab

ok, thanks i will check the installation and upp a correct one.

elkneo said:
ok, thanks i will check the installation and upp a correct one.
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great
please update us here & post something to let us know that the new one is there so we go get it
again good work

corrected version is online now. visit my page for more software...

Thanks for the update.

Hi ,
URL http://gbit.ath.cx is not working . I was looking for the solution to change the bluetooth radio name . any ideas ?

anil_k_22 said:
Hi ,
URL http://gbit.ath.cx is not working . I was looking for the solution to change the bluetooth radio name . any ideas ?
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Here you go.
I hope he doesn't mind me posting his cab here since his site seems to be down.