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Hey all,
I recently bought my first PPC ever, the HTC Touch. Not very much later I discovered rlToday and designed a skin in Photoshop. Pi3cH coded it and I tweaked it some more. Besides rlToday I use S2U2, TodayShrink and PCM Keyboard.
The result can be viewed here...
For those who don't understand Dutch. Underneath the appointment is the task section (Total, Important, Today, Overdue)
Now I have some problems I can't resolve in rlToday. I saw Grump on this forum for example that made an app for the iPhone skin and I was wondering if some guys are willing to get this done for me as apps can do more than rlToday.
What am I missing and can't I get done with rlToday:
1) topbar should be something like iPhone or S2US style
No start logo but still its functionality when tapping the icon on the left, smaller than WM6 topbar and nicer icons for Wifi, BlueTooth and stuff.
2) Now I'm using Mortscript to get the appointment coming inside the screen, but I only get the first upcoming one. And if that appointment is now, the next one coming is shown underneath it.
I would rather always see the next y (2, maybe 3, or for the today and tomorrow for example) upcoming appointments along with the location (if available), rather than the 1st upcoming or current and next.
3) Get rid of the circle on the bottom 3 icons when the number of missed calls/new sms/new email is 0.
4) get a highlight effect when tapping one of the 3 bottom icons, just like TouchFlo Cube for example (see pic 6 at my rlToday skin of the Cube 6 app side I changed, it turns blue when tapped).
Just wondering if this is in any way possible, without having a slow and without battery/memory consuming.
No one that can help me out?
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
5) To address your speed and memory concerns...I don't think WAD is that bad. It uses about 700-800KB of RAM. No noticeable speed down. If you or someone else builds a custom GUI it will most likely take up even more resources. But atleast this way you can get what you want with $20 worth of software and you have the option of customizing it any way you like in the future.
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You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like.
I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
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3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
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My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
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Will take a look at that.
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Focaldesign said:
Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like. I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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I don't have WA3 so I can't try that...
PhoneAlarm won't do it for me I think. To many stuff that I don't want in that plugin (I see a load of icons, clock etc...).
Don't have WAD either, so can't try the bottom part in WAD neither.
hi. i first posted this idea on the PointUI forum.. so forgive me for the blasphemous screen.. anyway.. i jsut want to share this idea for those developers, willing to create a scrolling today screen launcher..
click thumbnail for the animated demo..
the idea is, to create a launcher that is customizable (custom icons - TGA or PNG for transparency), scrollable, and FUN.. hehe..
anyway.. it's a simple horizontal swipe and scroll.. but the added feature of the - what i call - default pane..
the default pane should be a set of five shortcut icons (user configurable) that can be easily accessed from anywhere in the horizontal list.. how? double tap the space above the icons..
for example, you have a 16 icon horizontal list, if you are in the end of the list, and you have to go back to your default pane, just double tap the space above the icons, and the list will scroll back to your default pane..
also, there should be an option for memory or default..
the memory option remembers the last position of your launcher and remains where it is even after you launched a program or switched to another window..
the default view scrolls the list back to the default pane after launching a program or every time the today screen becomes active..
this idea could not just be a today screen plugin.. it can also be a launcher that can be called via screen gesture (FtouchSL/FtouchFLO).. the difference with this launcher, is if implemented, would just be an over-window rather than a full screen launcher.. it may also be a task switcher.. depends on the developers choice..
here's a quick demo..
[/i]click on the thumbnail for the animated demo..[/i]
once again, this is just an IDEA.... for someone else with the programming prowess..
i'm just good with photoshop and ideas. but binaries and hexadecimals kill me..
Good idea..i hope some one develops it...u can try Throttle launcher
Where did you find the picture?
Have you done it by yourself?
look into ultimatlaunch also... very similar to what you are wanting
with customize icons and wallpaper... wold be good.. and a feeds infos too on the clock and events apperance
the upper part of the picture/animation is the PointUI Home interface.. no credit for me with that..
the bottom part however is mostly my creation.. (the icons used were modified from bundled stardock icons for windowsXp)
i created the bottom part and the application launcher ribbon as an idea suggestion for the developers of PointUI..
a bit inspired by the leaked wm7 pix and the iphone springboard hacks they created over at cre.ations.net
i don't really like PointUI that much (YET, but i'm getting there), so i also suggest the idea as a native Today Screen plugin.. and an all around launcher.. a minimalist approach, compared to the touchFLO cube and it's encarnations..
i don't like ultimate launcher that much.. i'm not into Tabbed launchers.. too much space consumed..
throttle launcher looks cluttered at the moment.. too much things are rendered on screen at the same time.. it takes up much time loading and, again, screen real estate.. i'm still eyeing for its future improvements though.. especially if it will be able to get customized, as in, to be able to select the features that will be loaded, and will not..
it's not likely that all people want to see a big clock, a bunch of contact pictures, all of the shortcuts, and running programs cramped in their screen at the same time..
Would be awesome...good idea buddy.
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throttle launcher looks cluttered at the moment.. too much things are rendered on screen at the same time.. it takes up much time loading and, again, screen real estate.. i'm still eyeing for its future improvements though.. especially if it will be able to get customized, as in, to be able to select the features that will be loaded, and will not..
it's not likely that all people want to see a big clock, a bunch of contact pictures, all of the shortcuts, and running programs cramped in their screen at the same time..
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they have a single line launcher now, it the same thing you ar requesting. I'm also keeping an eye on them i think the single line can be a nice addon to every rom. (but it has to be easy customiseble)
If you combine Ultimate Launcher with some clever today screen plugins, especially with rltoday, you can do at least the first part with customization only.
if only the creator wants to make pointui for VGA sigh..
That concept has been done here
i tried v2r and though it was not that good....this idea is awesome though i would love to see it developed
I like the concept.... I'll try to achieve something similar with my app (ThrottleLauncher) and report back with what can be done . Some questions:
Any way of getting the art work used on your screen shots?
What are the left and right arrows on the clock for?
Thanks for that cool concept!
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I like the concept.... I'll try to achieve something similar with my app (ThrottleLauncher) and report back with what can be done . Some questions:
Any way of getting the art work used on your screen shots?
What are the left and right arrows on the clock for?
Thanks for that cool concept!
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This is what I've so far. I know the look is not the same but without the background's it's the closer I can make it for the today plugin. For the "poping up" app, the same theme can be used without the clocks on throttle main app. A little modification on the app will be needed to show the prevous window as background.
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This is what I've so far. I know the look is not the same but without the background's it's the closer I can make it for the today plugin. For the "poping up" app, the same theme can be used without the clocks on throttle main app. A little modification on the app will be needed to show the prevous window as background.
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awesome! if you could release your today plugin ribbon, my theme would be complete! really looking forward to this
Michaelr219 said:
awesome! if you could release your today plugin ribbon, my theme would be complete! really looking forward to this
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The today plugin ribbon is really eassy to achieve with my app ;-). I've made a simple theme for you. Just uncompress the zip file into your instalation dir of ThrottleLauncher (see my signature).
After that, go to ThrottleConfig app (it must be on your programs menu) and set plugin height to 38 (or higher if you customize the icons to be bigger), then sellect Ribbon on the combo box and click "Set Today's" button. Then on the actions menu (left softkey) select Edit AppDB, add as much app's as you wish (needed fields are title, name and exec, only select an icon if you wan't to override the default of the app). Select the app's you want to be on the Used list. After all that add throttletoday plugin to your today screen.
If you wan't to make some playing with the setup you can take a look at this tutorials
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8
You can for example eassily set the ribbon to be 2 rowed, add a clock, add contact photodial ribbon, etc etc .
edit: removed atachment as it contained an error. Look some post's below for the correct one..
APBilbo said:
The today plugin ribbon is really eassy to achieve with my app ;-). I've made a simple theme for you. Just uncompress the zip file into your instalation dir of ThrottleLauncher (see my signature).
After that, go to ThrottleConfig app (it must be on your programs menu) and set plugin height to 38 (or higher if you customize the icons to be bigger), then sellect Ribbon on the combo box and click "Set Today's" button. Then on the actions menu (left softkey) select Edit AppDB, add as much app's as you wish (needed fields are title, name and exec, only select an icon if you wan't to override the default of the app). Select the app's you want to be on the Used list. After all that add throttletoday plugin to your today screen.
If you wan't to make some playing with the setup you can take a look at this tutorials
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8
You can for example eassily set the ribbon to be 2 rowed, add a clock, add contact photodial ribbon, etc etc .
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awesome! thank you soo much, im going to incorporate this to the m-series of my iStyle theme, youll get much credit deserved for this. im gonna test this right now! thanks again!
Michaelr219 said:
awesome! thank you soo much, im going to incorporate this to the m-series of my iStyle theme, youll get much credit deserved for this. im gonna test this right now! thanks again!
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If you need more help or find any probs you know where to find me .
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If you need more help or find any probs you know where to find me .
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i installed the latest version... and unzipped accordingly, i didnt get the "ribbon" as an option in the dropdown menu... and i cant find that clock ribbon like in your screenshot, if you could post that theme like in your first screenshot, itd be much appreciated, im trying to find something similar to the ribbon in pointui... i dont know how to design it, i just would like to easily scroll through a clock, calendar, and if possible, notifications... mainly just clock and calendar... also, is it possible to have it automatically "fall into place" on the flick/scroll... all your work is appreciated... and thank you in advance
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i installed the latest version... and unzipped accordingly, i didnt get the "ribbon" as an option in the dropdown menu... and i cant find that clock ribbon like in your screenshot, if you could post that theme like in your first screenshot, itd be much appreciated, im trying to find something similar to the ribbon in pointui... i dont know how to design it, i just would like to easily scroll through a clock, calendar, and if possible, notifications... mainly just clock and calendar... also, is it possible to have it automatically "fall into place" on the flick/scroll... all your work is appreciated... and thank you in advance
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Sorry... my fault... there was an error on the zip. Setup xml must be inside a folder called Ribbon on the setups folder and not directly inside it. Here you have an update of the simple ribbon setup and the one of the screenshots above (this last will require a little work still but I upload it so you can test it ).
I found this great program online a few days ago thats very good for (especially for noobys) at allowing you to customize icons right on your ppc. Ive tried it extensivley with .png icons that is use for my iFonz screen. All you need to do is copy and paste the icon you want to customize into My Documents/My Pictures, and bring up the PaintApp. You can zoom in to single block view which in my opinion makes customizing extremely easy. It also has a feature which alows you to resize your icons simply by entering in the size desired. If your creative enough, choose your size, and make one from scratch. This program is also just fun to use. Below is the .cab file for the program. This is great for people who have no experience making icons.
Tip, use something simple like a blank calendar or calculator icon as your base if you want to make a completley new icon. It makes it easier to know the outline of what you want.
Hope you enjoy this. I do.
it looks great
thank you so much for bringing this nice prog here
cheers
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I found this great program online a few days ago thats very good for (especially for noobys) at allowing you to customize icons right on your ppc. Ive tried it extensivley with .png icons that is use for my iFonz screen. All you need to do is copy and paste the icon you want to customize into My Documents/My Pictures, and bring up the PaintApp. You can zoom in to single block view which in my opinion makes customizing extremely easy. It also has a feature which alows you to resize your icons simply by entering in the size desired. If your creative enough, choose your size, and make one from scratch. This program is also just fun to use. Below is the .cab file for the program. This is great for people who have no experience making icons.
Tip, use something simple like a blank calendar or calculator icon as your base if you want to make a completley new icon. It makes it easier to know the outline of what you want.
Hope you enjoy this. I do.
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Could you go into detail on what you do to customize your icons? I use iFonz also and I would Love to fix my own iPhone icons to work with iFonz...
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Here's some details like you asked for in the second reply. Im just going to tell you what I use it for. First, to make changes to an icon, copy it to My Pictures located in My Documents. That's the only folder it reads. When you install the app the first time you run it, it will give you an option 4 a tutorial mode. Do it. Anyway.. Once you bring up whatever icon you chose, you have all sorts of options. You can change the color , the size, everything . Then save it. Go bak and copy/paste it back 2 the original folder or wherever you want and there you go. Also , my favorite, you can create your own icon from scratch. Just select the option to create a new file or image, whatever its called. Then choose the option to chae the size. Set it to whatever size you want, 44x44 , 42x42, and have at it. Just mess around and you'll figure out how to make them rounded like the default icons. Now here's a tip to make this easier. If you want to make you own custom icon, copy and paste a realy simple, almost blank default icon, like the calendar icon or the stock lines icon to My Pictures. open it up in the program. use your zoom feature too zoom in pretty close. Select the paintbrush, use white and erase everything inside the icon except the Main outline. This way you have a border to go by and keep it the same shape and size. That's what I do and it works great. Another great feature is being able to cut and paste images from one to another. Just take any image, ( I used a Yahoo! image from the web) , save it to My Pictures , and open it in the program. Change the size to 1 less or the same as the icons your using. Then select the cut option , outline the image the select the 'cut to clipboard' option. Next choose the open option, (dont save chaes when it asks), open the icon you want to use as an outline, or whatever icon you want to put the image on. Paste the image to the icon and then zoom in and use your tools to touch it up. I've made google,yahoo msn, hundred icons that look great! Its really simple. You've just got to play around. Its just a paint app like on you desktop, on your ppc! Its zoom feature just makes it so easy to work on icons. Im posting this from my vogue, so sorry if spelling and puctuation aren't perfect. Ill post some of my icons tomorrow for u to check out. hope you enjoy. and post any icons you come up with guys!
Thanks! ima give it a try =)
Ok so ive been piecing together this theme from many different people, i take no credit for this, i just changed some skins and edited a few things,
anyhow, i have been working for a bit on this and was just wondering if i could get some feedback, first off i dont like the look of the weather, i would rather put something else in its place but i dont know what to do with that space, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Second, is there a stand alone weather program i could link to a tab on the RLtoday at the bottom? i would like something that isn't today oriented so it doesnt have to take up space on my screen like weatherpannel is now.
Heres some images for you, thanks for all the feedback you can give me.
Nearly like my Today-Screen... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2481517&postcount=341
I've used UltimateLaunch for the Bottom Thing! With UltimateLaunch it's possible to place the Tabs below the items, and you can use images instead of text...little tweaking, and it'll look like yours!
greetz,
infernalshade
EDIT: If you need more space...there is a .exe that'll hide the softbuttons, so you can use the space of the hidden-softbuttons!
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I have tried UL but i didnt like how you can't launch programs from one of the tabs, its either today plugins or groups of shortcuts, you cant do what ive done with rltoday which is have shortcuts to specific programs. I am using dcinobar which is great and gives me more space, i just dont like the look of the weatherpannel, maybe theres a better theme that would work better with mine or a different plugin i could put there,
thanks for the help,
Well yes, thats true...How do you like my WeatherPanel Theme? its the samuraix theme, i think mini+ template! maybe it'll fit into your plugin!
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I have tried UL but i didnt like how you can't launch programs from one of the tabs, its either today plugins or groups of shortcuts, you cant do what ive done with rltoday which is have shortcuts to specific programs. I am using dcinobar which is great and gives me more space, i just dont like the look of the weatherpannel, maybe theres a better theme that would work better with mine or a different plugin i could put there,
thanks for the help,
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I don't understand what you mean... You can configure the tabs however you want, pointing to exe, lnk, or "." whatever that is...
UL tabs
Im saying you cant click on a tab and instantly open say opera, you have to go into the tab and click the icon for opera, you can have pages of programs on a tab. i'm using mortbuttons, so the star and the music note open mortbuttons for my programs and media, and the rest open up programs (pocketcm, browser, psshutxp)
And i love the weather panel theme, i changed the size of it so it takes up the whole space there, yet id still like a stand alone weather program, i guess ill just keep this till i find one
I see now, but that seems like a waste of space, couldn't you just put an icon on the bottom of your home screen? OR... just make ultimate launch use gestures to launch the app you want. For example, slide finger from bottom to top to launch Opera. Not saying you have to, but there are options...
Hey guys,
I was just wondering if it's possible to remove the top bar from manila 2d (aka TouchFlo) which shows the network information? In my opinion, it's just a waste of screen space and looks bad.
I know you can remove the network information with M2DC but I was wondering if anybody knew how to actually remove the top bar itself.
Cheers,
Jennan
Yeap, this is possible.....use attached transparent topbar. Put it in windows folder and relace original (with total commander). First copy original to another file in case you want to go back.
Thanks Frank, you're really helpful man
Appreciate it, worked like a charm
Thanks a lot for that too!!
Any chance to change the bottom bar also?
Have tried a lot of things but you can not remove or replace by a transparent version.....seems hard-coded in Manila.
Though you can change the color (mine is black). Or the trick I see in some themes is that you make an exact copy of the theme as is behind bottom bar and copy to windows so that it appears it is gone. But in actual fact is still there. If your theme is complex or change it frequently will be more difficult/more work. But it can be done.
Let us know how the result.....
Thanks so much ;]
I don't understand why you would use Total Commander for this though :/ I just did it with File Explorer and it worked too
It kind of supprised me I could just replace it from with file explorer; Aren't these images stored in the ROM? Then why can I replace them with File Explorer?
this is great. i was just complaining to the wife about how unsightly that top bar was.
thanks very much
Seems a bit wasteful to make a whole new thread for this - does anybody know how to replace the icons in TouchFlo? I've just downloaded a bunch of SenseUI icons in PNG format and want to replace the cartoony manila 2d ones.
Any ideas?
Thanks
For more info on removing top bars etc...see this thread...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688313