I was looking at 0044, riiing, callblue and a few others.
Does anyone know if these work OK in the Wizard or does anyone know any company that offers better rates (especially for texts or with no minimum call charges)
Cheers
if you got a contract phone...you can make free phone calls abroad using your minutes..
I done this only 2 days ago and all seems fine..
depends on your contract
try http://www.yourcallworld.com
I dont know any UK ones who do that - and I have had contracts with Tmobile - orange - and virgin.
as i said check the site....i was on o2......didnt get charged....make sure the number on the site is included in ur minutes
I am talking about avoiding roaming charges - not making international calls from the UK
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Hi! I use an XDA with Orange SIM in the UK which used to roam on GPRS well, using Movistar, when I am in Spain. Since the new UK upgrade was added a couple of weeks ago in will no longer log on to GPRS in Spain but works fine in the UK. Anyone else had this problem, any ideas? Thanks.
I used my XDA in Gran Canaria with GPRS on Movistar last week. It worked like a dream with an 02 card in it. Put an Orange sim in and it wouldn't work at all!
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I used my XDA in Gran Canaria with GPRS on Movistar last week. It worked like a dream with an 02 card in it. Put an Orange sim in and it wouldn't work at all!
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Did you check the roaming rates for GPRS? I would not want to be around you in the couple of weeks after you receive your next phone bill.
I used my XDA in Gran Canaria with GPRS on Movistar last week. It worked like a dream with an 02 card in it. Put an Orange sim in and it wouldn't work at all!
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Exactly the same with me when trying to use with Orange . No I have not received horrific bills from O2 either and I used it for days in Spain over the last threee months on GPRS - sounds a bit like a scare story to me!!
A state license to sell a MB for GBP 21.15 (30 Euro)
According to this, O2-UK's GPRS roaming rates are either 7.05 or 21.15 Pounds per MB (!), depending on the provider. And according to the list, Telefonica/MOVISTAR is in the 21.15 UK Pounds per MB category.
Either you'll be lucky because the billing is still a mess (wouldn't surprise me), or you have been screwed. I still remember the time I brought a tri-band phone to the US, and came home to find the roaming rates were USD 6 per minute for calls within the US, and something like USD 10 per minute for international.
Rule 1 for GPRS roaming: do not use it until the prices come down. Linking up through a regular GSM data-call can be an order of magnitude cheaper, especially if your ISP has a dialin number in the country you're in.
Is it me or does anyone agree that GPRS costs are way too high?
Lets face it, using a dial-up modem on a land line is a damn site cheaper, and in these days of broadband, the charges should be 10megs for 50p, not £5-£10!
And that goes for normal use, not just roaming!
Hi everyone
I want to use the 3G network sim card on my imate jam ofcourse not on the 3G service but on the gsm service (2G)
I am just wondering if its possible
Regards
I seem to remember that it used to be possible, but loads of people were buying the PAYG 3 cards and only using them on GSM which meant that the cards were constantly roaming on the O2 network and costing 3 loads of money whilst they charged their customers very little and as such were making a loss... they then did something clever to stop all their new SIM cards from working in a Non-3 phone...
Dunno if that's still the case tho...
3G sim in Jam/magician etc
In the UK, 3 (H3G) checks your IMEI against their database of allowed phones, so if the phone isn't H3G approved, it locks out.
One way to get round would be to copy the IMEI of your 3 phone into the magician, but this is a CRIMINAL offense(!!) in the UK due to thieves changing IMEI's of stolen phones in the past. It would probably breach your T&C's with H3G because you would be constantly roaming on O2's network.
All in all, I don't recommend it! You are risking a fine/jail and loss of contract!
But..I can recommend Relax 300 from T-mobile as that'll go permanently to GBP14.50 per month for 300 x-net anytime minutes after 18 months, with 6 months half price till then, and your get a free MDA Compact!
Joe
(PS I have no affiliation with T-mobile, just a normal customer)
Ok... here's some information for anyone that would like to be able to use the Sim Slot on the SNAP here in the good ol' U.S.A.
If you call VZW Global Support @ 1-888-844-0395 and tell them you are leaving the country soon and would like to unlock the GSM Sim Slot on the phone to be able to use pre-paid sim cards while you travel they will give you the instructions and lock code to do it.
This accomplishes two things -
(1) If you do travel internationally you can buy and use pre-paid sims where ever you are and do not need to pay VZW rates.
(2) Allows you to use At&t and T-Mobile Sim Cards in the Snap and make and recieve phone calls on their Network while here in the U.S.
In order for them to unlock the phone you must be a VZW Customer for 90 days and have an account in good standing (it doesn't hurt to have the phone on a business account - seemed to work faster for me).
Yesterday I called VZW, had the phone unlocked and had made a test call using both a T-Mobile and At&t sim card within 5 minutes.
Good LUCK!!!!!!!
thank u sir..worked like a charm!
i just finished using an friends at&t sim..and no issues.
might also want to note all feature abilities still work as well..mms, txt and yadda
Thats great that the Ozone has dual mode CDMA and GSM. But unfortunately no HSDPA or 3G. I want to get my hands on one to do some R&D... What are they going for??
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Thats great that the Ozone has dual mode CDMA and GSM. But unfortunately no HSDPA or 3G. I want to get my hands on one to do some R&D... What are they going for??
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new 2 yr contract comes out to $87.61 when ordering ONLINE ( its what i paid ) and only applies online instore ur gonna pay $140 something plus all those ridiculous taxes
but that $87.61 includes Fedex standard overnight which they throw in for free..thats right i said it, FO FREE
i got mine for free with upgrade
HTC Ozone from Verizon Online $50 with 2 year contract
My wife and I switched from AT&T to Verizon because Verizon coverage is far better in our area. For example we can use our cell phones inside our house now.
I got the HTC Ozone for $49.99 with a 2 year commitment. I opted for the unlimited data only plan (Nationwide messaging for smartphone at $54.99 and $0.25/minute for voice but with a 10% discount from work). My actual charges for my phone are as follows:
Monthly access charges $49.49 ($54.99 minus 10% discount from work)
Surcharges - $3.05 which includes:
Fed Universal Service Charge $1.01
Regulatory Charge $0.14
Administrative Charge $1.84
VA Gross Receipts Surchg $0.06
Taxes - $4.27 which includes:
VA State E911 Fee $1.50
VA Communication Sales Tax $2.77
For a total monthly bill of $56.81 a month plus $0.25 a minute voice charges to non Verizon numbers.
Given what I've seen in the past for data plans that's not terrible. I'd planned on getting a pay as you go plan and giving up on the idea of data since the cheapest option I'd found was $70 a month plus surcharges and tax for just the data plan. The pay as you go data plans seem to have become extinct.
However I can say I'm reasonably satisfied with what I've got and what I'm paying right now since I've got unlimited data and texting with voice, albeit at a somewhat steep price. I don't think its a great bargain but it seems to be a tolerable expense since I can now get all my email on the go on a device that works well as a PDA, navigation system (using the built in GPS and Google Maps mobile application) and portable entertainment medium for little if any cost beyond the $56.81 plus voice charges. Sure it would be great if it cost $40 a month or less but I've not seen a plan anywhere close to that cheap that met my data desires and minimal voice needs.
Now if I unlock in 90 days and buy a SIM from T-mobile I could theoretically bypass the expensive voice charges on my plan but it isn't clear if that would entail swapping SIM cards whenever I want to make a voice call? My impression is no but I guess I'll have to try it out to see how it works.
Max L.
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My wife and I switched from AT&T to Verizon because Verizon coverage is far better in our area. For example we can use our cell phones inside our house now.
I got the HTC Ozone for $49.99 with a 2 year commitment. I opted for the unlimited data only plan (Nationwide messaging for smartphone at $54.99 and $0.25/minute for voice but with a 10% discount from work). My actual charges for my phone are as follows:
Monthly access charges $49.49 ($54.99 minus 10% discount from work)
Surcharges - $3.05 which includes:
Fed Universal Service Charge $1.01
Regulatory Charge $0.14
Administrative Charge $1.84
VA Gross Receipts Surchg $0.06
Taxes - $4.27 which includes:
VA State E911 Fee $1.50
VA Communication Sales Tax $2.77
For a total monthly bill of $56.81 a month plus $0.25 a minute voice charges to non Verizon numbers.
Given what I've seen in the past for data plans that's not terrible. I'd planned on getting a pay as you go plan and giving up on the idea of data since the cheapest option I'd found was $70 a month plus surcharges and tax for just the data plan. The pay as you go data plans seem to have become extinct.
However I can say I'm reasonably satisfied with what I've got and what I'm paying right now since I've got unlimited data and texting with voice, albeit at a somewhat steep price. I don't think its a great bargain but it seems to be a tolerable expense since I can now get all my email on the go on a device that works well as a PDA, navigation system (using the built in GPS and Google Maps mobile application) and portable entertainment medium for little if any cost beyond the $56.81 plus voice charges. Sure it would be great if it cost $40 a month or less but I've not seen a plan anywhere close to that cheap that met my data desires and minimal voice needs.
Now if I unlock in 90 days and buy a SIM from T-mobile I could theoretically bypass the expensive voice charges on my plan but it isn't clear if that would entail swapping SIM cards whenever I want to make a voice call? My impression is no but I guess I'll have to try it out to see how it works.
Max L.
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The VZW Sim Card already installed in the phone is only for when travelling outside of the U.S. Inside the U.S. the Verizon Service is CDMA. So, you could have a Data Package from VZW and a Voice Plan from T-Mobile on this device at the same time. However you would have to change Networks each time you wanted to use the other... seems like it would be a big Pain in the Butt though!!!!!
HTC-OH_SNAP said:
Ok... here's some information for anyone that would like to be able to use the Sim Slot on the SNAP here in the good ol' U.S.A.
If you call VZW Global Support @ 1-888-844-0395 and tell them you are leaving the country soon and would like to unlock the GSM Sim Slot on the phone to be able to use pre-paid sim cards while you travel they will give you the instructions and lock code to do it.
This accomplishes two things -
(1) If you do travel internationally you can buy and use pre-paid sims where ever you are and do not need to pay VZW rates.
(2) Allows you to use At&t and T-Mobile Sim Cards in the Snap and make and recieve phone calls on their Network while here in the U.S.
In order for them to unlock the phone you must be a VZW Customer for 90 days and have an account in good standing (it doesn't hurt to have the phone on a business account - seemed to work faster for me).
Yesterday I called VZW, had the phone unlocked and had made a test call using both a T-Mobile and At&t sim card within 5 minutes.
Good LUCK!!!!!!!
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Can you tell me how to enter unlock code on this phone?
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Can you tell me how to enter unlock code on this phone?
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settings - security - sim management - Sim unlock my phone
I unlocked my SIM card last night through Verizon Global Services. I'm going to try my brother's AT&T Sim card later today, hopefully.
Does anyone know if it's possible to keep the phone in global mode in order to receive calls from Verizon's CDMA network and AT&T GSM networks at the same time? Or will I have to switch the phone to GSM only mode to receive calls made to the SIM card number?
Thanks,
Rick
Hello,
I just booked a gig for two weeks in Rome (Italy not Georgia) and I was looking for suggestions on the best way to use my Vibrant while outside of the US. My phone is sock, not rooted.
Should I try to unlock it with the process detailed on this forum last week and buy an Italian SIM card? If so, will data work over there (email is important)?
Should I call TMobile and let them know I'm traveling abroad and see if they have a temporary Intl plan?
Sorry for such a basic question, I've just read so many stories of people coming back from trips with their smartphones and getting a $4,000 bill from their wireless company.
Any information/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
NSR
I travel outside the US quite a lot, and unfortunately that's about to increase significantly for me (though most of my trepidation is related to the god-awful airlines and hours of dealing with the bad joke that passes for airport security).
Bottom line: unlock it and get a SIM card that works at your destination (probably pre-paid).
It can be difficult to find these with a data plan that is any good. Plan to spend a lot of time doing a lot of research. It probably won't be cheap. Also, spend some time to understand exactly how much data you actually use, and decide whether that is likely to increase or decrease while you're traveling, and be realistic about it. In some places I've found it's cheaper and easier to rent an entire phone that has a data plan, then just yank the SIM while I'm traveling. Be sure you understand the different types of networks and bands, not all countries are playing by the same rules. (Some parts of Eastern Europe can be downright dismal.)
Under no circumstances do you want to use your phone with your US carrier's international roaming. I bought my G1 shortly before a two week trip to Tokyo, and after a great deal of time on the phone with T-Mobile and a lot of thinking about how I use my device -- and I'm probably just a mid-level data consumer -- I calculated data roaming would cost me about $550 per week. Add my wife to the mix and we were looking at a roughly $2200 bill just for frigging data. I could almost double the length of my trip for that much.
Europe isn't quite that rough, but it's still indefensibly expensive. (Not relevant to you, but worst of all, Japan flat out sucks for mobile phone use by foreign visitors and even visa holders. Which seems pretty ironic.)
International data roaming plans are one of the biggest scams the carriers have going today. "Gouging" is too polite a word for the crap they pull to shoot you a simple wireless signal. Though I gather most of the blame lies with the foreign carriers (and maybe the reverse is true when traveling in the US, I wouldn't know). In any case: Tread carefully.
^^^^ I agree.
I am in the same process right now but researching travel to UK. I definitely plan on unlocking and getting a UK sim. Some UK pay as you go plans offer 50MB/day for reasonable rates. Europe providers can say "unlimited data" but check their fair usage policies, unlimited is anything but.
When I traveled to Europe last spring, I bought a pre-paid Vodafone SIM card for like 25 Euros in Germany (with some pre-paid minutes), popped it in my unlocked phone, and went with it through Germany, Belgium, France and Eastern Europe. All incoming calls are free, all calls to Vodafone customers (all my friends in Europe are on Vodafone) are free. The data was included.
When I traveled to my home country in Eastern Europe I used local providers pre-paid SIM's - again all incoming calls are free, in carrier calls are free, I don't think I had data though.
Be careful to set your phone to not run data when roaming! I forgot to with my G1 and when in Taiwan I turned on my phone to get to the data menu and turn it off. That costs me $6 in data in 20 seconds!
I just did this for the Netherlands. Get Tmo to unlock the SIM, and get a SIM card with data. I didn't have data and I wish I did so I could have used it for maps. Calls were easy though.
Also, definitely turn off data roaming as a setting or you will get hosed.
One option for data use I found to be satisfactory was free hotspots. If your out and about frequently, many cafes, malls and pubs have fre hotspots. Make sure you turn data roaming off, however.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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(Not relevant to you, but worst of all, Japan flat out sucks for mobile phone use by foreign visitors and even visa holders. Which seems pretty ironic.)
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I can't agree there. Not that this is directly related to the topic, but every phone or SIM I've rented in Japan came with %100 free incoming calls from any location (which is all I ever needed) and relatively unlimited data options.
So I understand that when you make a call over wifi that you are using your plan minutes (I have no problem with that). My question though is when does it know to pull from your anytime minutes as oppose to your unlimited off peak?
Case in point I have a plan with 500 anytime minutes. After 9pm my calls are free (off peak). Now if I travel from Boston (where I live) to San Diego...my off peak minutes do not kick in until 9pm local San Diego time (again makes sense as I am using the network there).
But lets say I travel to Ireland and decide to make a call using the wifi option....T-mobile will have no way of knowing (I presume) or care for that matter that I am using internet in Ireland to make the call...Also, Ireland is 5 hours ahead of Boston (my home town)so my question is....will they pull minutes from my account based upon what time it is in Boston or when you make a wifi call will they always pull those minutes from your anytime bucket?
Thoughts?
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But lets say I travel to Ireland and decide to make a call using the wifi option....T-mobile will have no way of knowing (I presume) or care for that matter that I am using internet in Ireland to make the call...
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Customer service told me that they go by IP address. If it's an international IP address they claim they will charge international rates. Not sure if it's just a bluff but that seems to be their official response to international wifi calling.
That would be nuts if they were to charge you international rates when you are using a hotspot oversees. Presumably it is costing them nothing for the call to be routed back to the US.
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That would be nuts if they were to charge you international rates when you are using a hotspot oversees. Presumably it is costing them nothing for the call to be routed back to the US.
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Yeah, and they still charge us a butt-load for a few KB of SMS/MMS, when it should be cheap data. just sayin...
Wifi calling is all billed as domestic. If you call from germany, it shows up as a call originating from the united states. As long as you're on wifi, it's a domestic call. This is direct from t-mobile confirmed through their higher level customer service(the people who actually give out correct information), as well as posted on their website.
Also, I spent 3 days last week in Düsseldorf for work and I returned to no international fees. They don't need to charge international fees because they're not using anyone's towers.
Turn off data. Turn on wifi. Make some calls. Laugh at everyone else's bill. That's what I do.
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Wifi calling is all billed as domestic. If you call from germany, it shows up as a call originating from the united states. As long as you're on wifi, it's a domestic call. This is direct from t-mobile confirmed through their higher level customer service(the people who actually give out correct information), as well as posted on their website.
Also, I spent 3 days last week in Düsseldorf for work and I returned to no international fees. They don't need to charge international fees because they're not using anyone's towers.
Turn off data. Turn on wifi. Make some calls. Laugh at everyone else's bill. That's what I do.
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Could you provide a link for this? I can't find it anywhere (which seems to be the reason for so many posts about this)...