Got my wife a wizard about 2 weeks ago and been playing around with it. Its a great little phone. I'm due for an upgrade now and am wondering if I should wait for the Hermes to be released in July (as someone posted on another thread) on Vodafone or just go for another wizard now. What do you guys think?
The Wizard is a great phone no doubt. Seeing that you already got your wife a Wizard, I would just lend her your current phone and use her Wizard until the Hermes comes out. Tell her its essential. If that fails, I would wait. Its only a month away. BTW I think they changed the name from Hermes to TyTN (Titan) now. HTC TyTN.
I think so too. But I've been waiting for this phone from vodafone (as they are out of stock) for over 2 months now. They've been pushing back the date continuously. It might be when the TyTN arrives when the qtek 9100 come back into stock.
Anyone knows how much the unit will be on contract? (How much was the Wizard on contract when it first came out? - It should be similarly priced)
I have heard on the grape vine that T-Mobile will not be selling the Hermes due to the high price, it will be simliar to the MDA Pro, contract price about 200 on a 35 a month contract.
if you can wait for may of next year for a herpes then get that instead
If you want to wait for the heremes, may be because of:
1. Wizard's bad camera.
2. Slow bluetooth transfer rate.
3. maybe the heremes will have a faster processor.
Otherwise, the wizard is great, I compared my mini s with my friend's JAMin, I really liked the wizard more!!!
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I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
Orange is releasing thier SPV M500 which is essentially a Jam, but it's also rumored it has 128mb RAM, may it's worth holding out a little bit longer for that
very interesting - if it does have 128mb of ram then it is definately worth waiting a bit for - but hopefully not too long! (i am a very impatient person!)
SPV M500
The SPV M500 is already available - I have one now, but alas it does not have 128mb Ram !
hmm if that's the case then i would still rather wait for the o2 XDA mini as i can probably get it cheaper as an upgrade an d i don't have the hastle of moving contracts etc. So any one got any idea when it is likely to be coming out?
Tom
welshtom said:
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
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It's not going to be released. Time for new devices
welshtom said:
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
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I spoke to O2 UK about this a few days ago and the guy on the phone said not to hold my breath waiting for it as they may not do it here in the UK!
I was with O2 and in the same position a few months back - eventually I went with an Orange contract and a Qtek S100 (2 year warranty) - the interesting part is that orange will match O2's '200' contract, so essentially you end up with the same deal as O2 with the benefits of Orange (241 cinema tickets are great) and a extra years warranty! You don't _need_ 128mb, the bigstorage conversion takes care of that! Compared to the XDA2 it's incredible - just as fast, the SIZE OF A PHONE (AT LAST) and battery life is far, far better (i no longer need to charge EVERY day).
Do it...
I bought mine from:
http://www.a1comms.co.uk/store/merchant-4-34-305-Phones.ihtml
..but do shop around. Sell you old device on ebay - i sold mine for 350ukp with a gps unit!
I see they're doing an O2 promotion right now - so you could stick with O2 and save some cash!
e.g.
"O2 200 with 50 messages + Promotion (12mths) £30 per month, phone cost £29.99"
Or do what i do.It takes forever for the companys here in the uk to get the decent phone,if ever so when your upgrae is due,get the best phone possible,sell it on e-bay then buy whatever phone sim free ie i mate jam :wink: that way you don't have to spend time removing all orange,o2 etc's crap off it.You can even sell the phone you got now too to raise more.Works every time for me! :wink: :twisted:
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Or do what i do.It takes forever for the companys here in the uk to get the decent phone,if ever so when your upgrae is due,get the best phone possible,sell it on e-bay then buy whatever phone sim free ie i mate jam :wink: that way you don't have to spend time removing all orange,o2 etc's crap off it.You can even sell the phone you got now too to raise more.Works every time for me! :wink: :twisted:
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To not install the 'crap' just reset the device after windows setup, that way the extended rom isn't installed and you can do it by hand. I did the math and it would of cost me more to buy, sell and then buy again - remember you can drop your contract rate post-six months in which brings the cost down again. Besides, the problem is, that O2 do not offer the magician as an upgrade
right cheers for the replies guys - very interesting, i am shocked however that o2 is probably not going to realease this phone! big mistake in my opinion! looks like i had better give up waiting then and go do some searchin around and some maths to find the best deal i can!
thanks again,
Tom
i got my s100 on o2 100 for £39.99 and £25 a month contract,
a1comms.co.uk
great device (obviously not branded as o2 but its still the same)
I just got my Vario, but now i am thinking that i should have waited for the Vario II (Hermes?). Have i made a mistake? Should i send it back under my 7 day return and wait?
aint being funny but i fink it looks crap...
http://www.newmobile.nl/eur/en/photos.php?phone_id=18fc907
i'd rather have the current Vario...as it's got style to it....that looks like a simple t mobile phone :roll: looks a bit blaah if u get me
Eh? I think it look pretty nice, better than the Vario I. And a 400Mhz CPU? I would not mind some of that.
What should i do?!
well the 200mhz aint bad....plays movies without a problem...music is fine...tom tom works; so it aint a bad phone...
but if your main concern is the CPU speed then go for it...
I think the hermes looks like a great device, an evolution on the current vario. If you can wait and afford the difference in price go for it, i'm sure it will be a cracking device.
Otherwise go for the vario, the hermes being available will not make the vario any less useful and there are already loads of hacks available for the vario.
A tough choice, but bear in mind even if you hold out for the hermes, there is always somethings bigger and better just around the corner.
whichever decision you make enjoy your device
R
No matter what phone you choose to buy, there will always be something better coming out on the horizon
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No matter what phone you choose to buy, there will always be something better coming out on the horizon
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Agreed, but the when the device is coming out so soon (this month?) it might be worth waiting.
Where are you based ?
I just got a vario and asked about release date of vario 2 ... (Assuming you actally mean the vario rather than i-mate or xda mini S) then Germany will be getting it this month but the T-Mobile aren't planning on releasing it in the UK till Q3 (ie October at the earliest)
BTW isn't it a 300Mhz CPU rather than a 400 Mhz one ??
HTH
Too soon? You mean too late!
I've had mine for aaages now, i'm nearly ready for an upgrade!
Other than that rather tasty looking camera application on the Vario 2 i think the XDA Mini S looks far nicer, as an ex XDA IIi user im finding it very hard to fault the XDA Mini S at all, its a great phone.
The Front-side looks okay to me, but the keyboard is ugly as hell, I like the keyboard of the MDA Vario a whole lot more.
I'm also keeping an eye out for the hermes but i haven't heard anything about any official release dates. I'm leaning toward the Imate branded JasJam but no clue when its coming out. Anyone have an idea? also is its 3g/umts compatible with the Cingular 3g?
At last I heard, the Hermes will not be compatible with US 3G networks, but that may change by the release by Imate or Qtek.
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hi, im also having the same dilemma, i currently have the imate JAMin and looking to get a device with a keyboard and im leaning towards the imate k-jam, but i am eagerly awaiting the release of the hermes or imate JASJAM.......i dont know if i should wait for the hermes or get the k-jam for now.......i have emailed and called the imate company in dubai and they advised me that they have no idea when this device will be released internationally......it is still under testing they said.....
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hi, im also having the same dilemma, i currently have the imate JAMin and looking to get a device with a keyboard and im leaning towards the imate k-jam, but i am eagerly awaiting the release of the hermes or imate JASJAM.......i dont know if i should wait for the hermes or get the k-jam for now.......i have emailed and called the imate company in dubai and they advised me that they have no idea when this device will be released internationally......it is still under testing they said.....
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i'm actually looking for an i-mate jamin and i currently have a vario (k-jam). i'd gladly trade mine for yours.
You dont say which country you are in so we can give you valid advice. The vario 2 has a 300mhz processor and uses a microsd slot - so 1gb max for now. It has a better camera but far as i can see does not have stereo speakers like the vario. If sound is a priority or if you already have a minisd card stick with the vario - otherwise go for the vario 2, i am certain that overall it is a better device. see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41660
waiting can be fruitless
I've waited since November for the Nokia N80 to be released. It was always just around the corner. Now here we are in May and still no US N80. There are even rumors that it will not be released due to some G3 issue.
I wish I wouldn't have waited and just got the Cingular 8125 back in November. I could have been enjoying it the last six months.
Point is... you can drive yourself crazy always looking out on the horizon. I would recommend getting the current version and having fun with all the mods. When the Hermes comes out, give it another six months for more mods to come out and the price to drop and then you can switch again if you want. But by then rumors of Hermes II will be floating around with beter keyboard, 800mhz, 5mp camera, built in 10gb hard drive optionsl, thinner, built in GPS receiver. LOL Just my opinion.
My brother just got an N80. I had a friend of mine buy it for him from Saudi Arabia and then had one of my friend's mom bring it with her to texas. But i'm gonna say its gonna be a while (2 to 3 months) until it gets released on cingular.
Help! A few days ago my SD 2gig card stopped working and then my Cingular 8125 started to reset it self when I made a call. Last night I flashed the rom with the 2.25.11.1 WWE that the AT&T website said to use. Now when I try to turn on WIFI, it showes that it is trying to turn on but the icon turns gray again and the little x is on top of it again. So I tried to flash it again and just start over, when the ROM starts to flash the phone turns off and the USB link is broken and I have to do a hard reset... PLEASE HELP
Israel
Nevermind
Nevermind I am just going to get a new one from AT&T WOO
Wait a couple of weeks and get the Tilt/Tytn II. I bought an unlocked Tytn II last week to replace my aging Wizard -- the Wizard was good, but the Tytn II is much better.
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Wait a couple of weeks and get the Tilt/Tytn II. I bought an unlocked Tytn II last week to replace my aging Wizard -- the Wizard was good, but the Tytn II is much better.
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how much is a Tytn II ?
AT&T Tilt is $550 ($400 w/ 2-year contract); this model doesn't have the front camera, and will be released by AT&T in the next few weeks.
Unlocked HTC Tytn II from US resellers is in the $750-$800 range and is available now.
hey guys,
so my contract with t-mobile UK expires in 2 weeks and i'm due for an upgrade. just wondering - what do you guys suggest i move to? things i'd like is in-built gps, exchange synchronization, and a full keyboard would all be nice.
tytnII is worrisome; don't know about that with all the hardware complaints on it, and i don't know whether its worth upgrading to it from the tytn...
what do you guys say?
chamelion said:
hey guys,
so my contract with t-mobile UK expires in 2 weeks and i'm due for an upgrade. just wondering - what do you guys suggest i move to? things i'd like is in-built gps, exchange synchronization, and a full keyboard would all be nice.
tytnII is worrisome; don't know about that with all the hardware complaints on it, and i don't know whether its worth upgrading to it from the tytn...
what do you guys say?
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Right now id stick with the hermes and take advantage of a free standard mobile phone for a while? the kaiser seems to be REALLY good but it doesnt feel like a big enough step up from the hermes (as i would be paying fully for a HTC device) , the only device which is tempting at the mo is the nike (Touch dual) or maybe the polaris (Touch Cruise) but they don't have the hardware keyboard im used to now.
Perhaps if we see a TyTN III over the next year(s) i may be tempted to get in there early.
chamelion said:
hey guys,
so my contract with t-mobile UK expires in 2 weeks and i'm due for an upgrade. just wondering - what do you guys suggest i move to? things i'd like is in-built gps, exchange synchronization, and a full keyboard would all be nice.
tytnII is worrisome; don't know about that with all the hardware complaints on it, and i don't know whether its worth upgrading to it from the tytn...
what do you guys say?
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If you are thinking about more screen resolution, the phones to look at are:
Eten glofiish M800 (640x480 pixels) Gps, Qwerty Keyboard
http://www.gsmarena.com/eten_glofiish_m800-2163.php
the somewhat buggy Toshiba G900 (800x480 pixels) no Gps, Qwerty Keyboard
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_g900-1905.php
or the upcoming Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 (800x480 pixels)
Gps, Qwerty Keyboard
wich is made by HTC and seem to be a slimmer Toshiba G900
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-2246.php
800x480 pixels resolution seems to be great to browse the web and Pdfs !!!
ok up for renewal soooo disappointed by how crap t-mobiles offers are. they're either offering me £10 off my monthly bill (after an 18 month contract) for a new 12 month contract, keep my existing phone. OR, sign up a new 18 month contract and get a couple of crap phones for free, or things like the vario III for £150.
hmm.
so i'm thinking one of:
1) renew contract with £10 off and sell my vario II (ebay, 100 quid or so?), and spend £220 on a new phone on ebay
2) screw t-mobile. switch to someone else now
3) lie in wait and see what new innovations htc comes out with
4) switch to crackberry
thoughts guys?
I decided to stay with t-mobile but switched to pay-as-you-go so I keep my number (I dont like to be rushed into a decision). My VarioII handset is still good for the job in hand. So now waiting for a good handset to appear on the market - maybe the SE Xperia X1 which will be available around Jun 2008 time.
I now have the flexibility to go back on contract (with any Provider as a NEW customer = good deals) and stay on pay-as-you-go and buy a handset. Actually, I have found pay-as-you-go is great! On TMobile I can still enjoy unlimited data package for purchasing 5day pass for £2.50 if you need it....
I have just bought a HTC Kaiser on flebay and even though I will miss my Wizard(s..) I think it is getting a bit long in the tooth and I fancied a change
Anyway I was wondering what a Wizard is now worth? I think I paid roughly UK £150 about 18-months ago. It is a G3 & SIM/CID Unlocked and is 'as new' (i.e. box & all original bits) however it is showing signs of wear and tear as it's been in and out of pockets, the screen is perfect however. It is currently running a customised WM 6.0 ROM, though this would be changed before selling.
Any ideas what I should be expecting on eBay?
Cheers
Andy
I was wondering the same thing as I've been toying with selling mine. I think as long as the screen and slider are good and the device is working 100% then I don't see why you shouldn't get at least £100 for it and maybe more. Have you looked on fleabay to see what others are going for?
It's still a capable device so still has value in my opinion. Just depends on how tatty or not it is as to whether you'll get a premium for it.
EUR100
A friend of mine would not bid further than EUR100 for one and after only a few auctions he got one.
My Wizard is worth a LOT!!
I've been with it for more than two years now (longest i have been with a phone) and it's still running WM6.1 without any hassle (who would have thought) and has also allowed me to write WST for it.
Man, even if i get a new PPC i don't think i'll ever let go of this baby.
just my 2 cents
cheers
It's hard letting go....
I have two Wizards, I bought one about two years ago because I was after a new Windows Mobile Phone that ran WM5.0 (I had a HP iPAQ 6300 previously that I couldn't upgrade). After I received it I immediately unlocked it and started to experiment with ROMs, so much so that I managed to get another one off fleabay quite cheap and used it as a 'test' Wizard so I didn't screw up the one I use for work - a 'guinea pig' to test my customised ROMs on before flashing them to my 'work' phone.
It has been excellent and I am sad to see it come to an end, however I think the Kaiser is an obvious evolution. For the last few months I have been constantly hacking OEM & SYS packages to try and make them fit in the Wizards ROM and with the latest Diamond 5.2.19588 port I simply couldn't get everything in there that I wanted.
Anyway the Kaiser has turned up, its been SIM & CID Unlocked, HardSPL'd and is running a customised WM6.1 ROM and I'm now back in business
I will be selling both my Wizards (probably on eBay as there isn't a for sale forum on here is there?) and I'll offer to install whatever ROM the buyer requests - as long as it's a Wizard ROM
Thanks for the help I have received & the effort from everyone involved in getting WM6 ROMs ported to the Wizard.
I'll be haunting the Kaiser forums from now on but will pop back if I can offer any help to anyone.
Cheers
Andy