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can anyone point me in the direction of some help or a guide to getting started with wm5 dev ?
just looking for a "hello world" level walk through at the moment.
thanks in advance.
WM5 Dev
Get hold of Visual Studio .NET 2005 and examine the example programs Goodluck!
do i need to install the dotnet framework on wm5 or is it built-in ?
cheers
You need Active Sync 4 during development. You may wish to run the sample program in your WM5 device OR using a WM5 emulator. If you chose to run it on your device, cradle your device and VS.NET 2005 will install .NET compact framework on your device before it attempts to run your sample program using your device
thanks for taking the time to answer. i would have thought that the dotnet framework would have been built-in with wm5.
no-one likes to have to install extra programs to get an app to work.
I am not sure with the "newer" WM5 devices out there. I have an XDA II with the first leaked WM5 ROM and it does not have the latest .NET CF...
If you have a WM5 device, verify the .NET CF version you have by running: \Windows\cgautil.exe
i have 1.0.4292.00 installed on my wizard.
how does this compare to dotnet v1.1 or v2 ?
cheers.
I guess it is not the latest version. VS.NET 2005 needs CF v2 in order for programs to run properly.
Hi there.
I'm planning on embarking on PPC development journey as well.
Yet to get hold of VS.NET.
I was just wondering, if anyone would know how the app in the link works:
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=338
Does it link to the registry, etc?
It obviously does not work on WM5, and I would appreciate if anyone could gimme a headstart on working one for WM5.
Thanks!
steelorange said:
I guess it is not the latest version. VS.NET 2005 needs CF v2 in order for programs to run properly.
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You can develop .net CF 1.0 applications in VS.NET 2005. Then you don't need to install the .net CF 2.0 on the device. There are some handy things that's missing in 1.0, but almost everything can be done... just not as easy as in 2.0
Øystein
Hi all,
Before Esmertec Java ever came, the only Java midlet manager available (at least on this forum) was Intent's one.
Long time ago i published HERE the first cab-ified version of the 11.x series: 11.1.7.1023. It worked with google maps and opera 3.1 and fullfilled all my needs. I then quit following Intent's further developments until today.
This morning i read this great article by Menneisyys (i have still to find one of his articles which is not great!) and realized that there were two more recent versions of the Intent midlet manager: 11.1.7.1029 and 11.1.7.1034.
In particular, the latest one was already available as a cab but it was not suited for connecting to the net since it prompted asking permission each time a connection was made instead of each session. So using it for browsing with opera mini would have required the user to give his permission every time he opened a page! Even worse that Windows Vista UAC!!!
What can i say? I had to do something! And i was able to re-enable the per-session check!!!
Obviously, the credit for version .1034 should go to dFine (i used his file: TAO_JMM_11_1_7_1034_WM5_Communicator_by_dFine.cab).
I have only removed the oneshot-only security limitation.
Now, i give you here all the versions of the Intent MIDlet Manager i have: they will all work without prompting you each time. ENJOY!
UPDATE: Thanks to megarek who informed me, i'm happy to publish here a still newer version of the MIDlet manager: 11.1.7.1036!
- Intent MIDlet Manager 11.1.7.1036 Newest release! Can Be Installed in SD Card too. (tested)
- Intent MIDlet Manager 11.1.7.1034 Can Be Installed in SD Card too.
- Intent MIDlet Manager 11.1.7.1029 Can't be installed in SD! Must go to Device
- Intent MIDlet Manager 11.1.7.1023 Can't be installed in SD! Must go to Device
Have Fun!!!
RELEASE NOTES:
Version .0136: while stable with all the midlets i've tried so far (google maps, mobile gmaps, etc), i have had problems with Opera Mini 4 beta2: i'm am not able to quit the program (menu->quit will freeze the midlet manager) and i've experienced random freezes too. I don't know if these bugs were present in release .1034 too.
EDIT: user Menneisyys did not experience this problem with his Universal, so it is probably a rom/device related problem. I'll keep you posted on this.
Version .1034: I don't know if it is a version .1034 specific issue or a problem with opera server but i wasn't able to install opera mini 4 beta2 straight from my ppc. I had to download opera jar file (attached below) in my desktop pc first and then copy it in my ppc.
risidoro said:
Hi all,
This morning i read this great article by Menneisyys (i have still to find one of his articles which is not great!)
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Thanks
risidoro said:
What can i say? I had to do something! And i was able to re-enable the per-session check!!!
Obviously, the credit for version .1034 should go to dFine (i used his file: TAO_JMM_11_1_7_1034_WM5_Communicator_by_dFine.cab).
I have only removed the oneshot-only security limitation.
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Great! You're the BEST! Will accordingly update my tutorial.
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PS: i always installed these programs in my device (no SD card). Versions .1023 and .1029 will only work if installed in the device. The latest one, .1034, should work if installed in SD card too (but i've not tested it in this configuration).
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It's a separate hack by dFine; he explicitly enabled storage card support. This is why his releases are all stroage card-aware.
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It's a separate hack by dFine; he explicitly enabled storage card support. This is why his releases are all stroage card-aware.
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Yeah, i checked the registry entries in the cab and they all point to %installdir%, it was really a good work from dFine!
thank you. great job
Great post, thank you kindly!
However, I don't mean to nit-pick, but .1034 is not the lastest version. The T-Mobile Hermes ROM (WM6 3.60) comes with .1036 of the Intent Midlet Manager
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Great post, thank you kindly!
However, I don't mean to nit-pick, but .1034 is not the lastest version. The T-Mobile Hermes ROM (WM6 3.60) comes with .1036 of the Intent Midlet Manager
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Wow! Great! I'll make a cab out of it then! Stay tuned!!!
Bye
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Wow! Great! I'll make a cab out of it then! Stay tuned!!!
Bye
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just to warn you, that one also ask for verification on every network access!
I have the cab hacked (no security) and ready. I'm testing it right now. Will post in 15 minutes...
Released
First post has been updated! Enjoy!
btw, could you also have a look at the Jblend (not Jbed!) jvm? prolly you could hack it too. see my related thread & additional info in here, the dev & hacking forum
Menneisyys said:
btw, could you also have a look at the Jblend (not Jbed!) jvm? prolly you could hack it too. see my related thread & additional info in here, the dev & hacking forum
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i'll try to do my best which, actually, is very little
HI ,risidoro:
I have tested all of these 4 versions,But prompting still come out each time.(there are only "NO" and "one shot" in security option)
My PPC is Universal with this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326433,
Is there anything should be configurated?
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i'll try to do my best which, actually, is very little
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Thanks!
It'd be GREAT to have a flawless (Net-enabled, new - the currently available CAB file is no-Net and old, for example, it still doesn't support M3D) Jblend installer.
Thanks for the info and the different versions.
I was shocked to discover that the brand new Touch official Dopod English ROM comes bundled with the Intent v10.1.7.575!! In contrast, the official German Touch ROM came with the Esmertec midlet manager. Rather strange!
Do I have to unistall the old Intent version before installing the new ones posted here?
Or do you think that the Esmertec is better than the Intent? I have reasons to believe that it is better/faster
risidoro said:
Version .0136: while stable with all the midlets i've tried so far (google maps, mobile gmaps, etc), i have had problems with Opera Mini 4 beta2: i'm am not able to quit the program (menu->quit will freeze the midlet manager) and i've experienced random freezes too. I don't know if these bugs were present in release .1034 too.
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I've thoroughly tested 1036 on my WM6 Universal (aurentius26's WM6 PRO Business V7 VIDEOCALL v7, based on AKU 0.3 - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312519 ). I haven't enounctered any crashes / freezes with 1036 installed to my storage card using the same OM4 b2 version. (Tried to exit OM4 several times.)
That is, this might be a ROM/device-specific problem?
laimingju said:
HI ,risidoro:
I have tested all of these 4 versions,But prompting still come out each time.(there are only "NO" and "one shot" in security option)
My PPC is Universal with this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326433,
Is there anything should be configurated?
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I'm using a pretty old one (aurentius26's WM6 PRO Business V7 VIDEOCALL v7, based on AKU 0.3 - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312519 ). No problems with the security rights in either (1023 / 1036) version.
botson71 said:
Do I have to unistall the old Intent version before installing the new ones posted here?
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Nope, you don't need to explicitly uninstall it - just answer Yes when (and if) the installer asks to remove the old version.
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Or do you think that the Esmertec is better than the Intent? I have reasons to believe that it is better/faster
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In many respects, it's certainly better; most importantly, in full screen support. However, there still are some advantages of the 11-series TAO over Esmertec; for example, support for M3G.
I really recommend the charts of my forthcoming MIDlet Bible; in there, I've compared these apps. (The charts are still beta and I'll further extend them when I publish the final version of the Bible; however, as a start, they are OK.)
laimingju said:
HI ,risidoro:
I have tested all of these 4 versions,But prompting still come out each time.(there are only "NO" and "one shot" in security option)
My PPC is Universal with this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326433,
Is there anything should be configurated?
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It's really weird. There is nothing that have to be configured, it should work just out of the box. The small hack i apply to the program (to enable the session check) is in rofs_target.zip so, pls, be sure that this file gets replaced when you install one of my cabs. This is the only help i can give you, i'm really sorry.
Menneisyys said:
I've thoroughly tested 1036 on my WM6 Universal (aurentius26's WM6 PRO Business V7 VIDEOCALL v7, based on AKU 0.3 - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312519 ). I haven't enounctered any crashes / freezes with 1036 installed to my storage card using the same OM4 b2 version. (Tried to exit OM4 several times.)
That is, this might be a ROM/device-specific problem?
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At this point i have to conclude that it must be a rom (or device) related problem: in all my tests, 100% of the times it freezes when tring to exit the program! I'm going to install a new rom in a few days, i'll keep you informed on the developments...
Bye
Hello,
First of all, I'd like to thank you all for this thread, it's really great.
Then, please correct me if I am wrong. I'm using the smartphone HTC S620 (WM5, Intent v10.1.7.561). This version does not seem to support DatagramConnection type, does it? (Nor SocketServerConnection)
I tried to install the Intent v.11 but it crashed from starting the application.
Thanks in advance for your response,
Luubi.
hi guys,
where to get the .cab for .net 3.5 ..the link provided in the hTorch thread is of the .exe .NET from the Microsoft website.
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...act-framework-3-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/
This was my source, you need to register with Modaco to be able to download it.
dingolino
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=121666
OEM ROMS schneller machen mit NETCF3.5
or here, but it is german
ya i already registered but they havent confirmed my account for nearly an hour now.
thanks ..
When I registered you verify your own account - They send you an activation email to your email address that you signed up with and you simply click on the link. I received my activation email within minutes..
Unless they have now changed it?
I got it from the SDK, which is freely available from Microsoft Downloads.
hey ..ya i got it now.. already installed the .NET 3.5.
does it improve the performance of the apps? or is it just a matter of compatibility?
showed the hTorch to my dad and he loved it.
Nocturnal310 said:
hey ..ya i got it now.. already installed the .NET 3.5.
does it improve the performance of the apps? or is it just a matter of compatibility?
showed the hTorch to my dad and he loved it.
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In layman term, .NET is just a set of libraries that application make use to perform common task like user interface, etc. Wouldn't do anything to your device's performance.
zenkinz said:
Wouldn't do anything to your device's performance.
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wrong
if you install .net cf you only get libraries to work with apps that require them. If you use a rom cooked with .net cf 3.5 installed on it and all system linked to 3.5 you will get a performance boost as 3.5 is faster then 2.0
In the middle take place the use of ".netcf cfg" from modaco, that force programs to use the newest .net cf but not all component in the system
guap said:
wrong
if you install .net cf you only get libraries to work with apps that require them. If you use a rom cooked with .net cf 3.5 installed on it and all system linked to 3.5 you will get a performance boost as 3.5 is faster then 2.0
In the middle take place the use of ".netcf cfg" from modaco, that force programs to use the newest .net cf but not all component in the system
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well, the so called performance improvement is as a result of optimising the ROM, has nothing to do with 3.5 framework itself.
not only tweaking registry, dynamic linking with new libraries always give a performance boost (assuming that new libraries are quickier than older ones ) Check some post from swiftblade or other skilled cooker for full details
guap said:
not only tweaking registry, dynamic linking with new libraries always give a performance boost (assuming that new libraries are quickier than older ones ) Check some post from swiftblade or other skilled cooker for full details
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it's not always newer implies quickier, in general, since there's other consideration factor like support for new features, etc.
In anycase, I think we have OT because the question is "does installing of CF 3.5 improve performance" and the simple answer should be a straight "NO", without considering other scenarios like cooked ROM, etc.
Saw this in the Dev & Hacking forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373721
Might be worth a look.
Just tried it - seems to be quicker..
Didn't do the benchmarks before and after (darn), maybe when I get home later..
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the simple answer should be a straight "NO", without considering other scenarios like cooked ROM, etc.
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simple answer doesn't exists: it's generally "NO", but should be "a little" if you force programs to use new .net libraries (check the link posted by CalvinH) and "a lot" if you link all libraries to new .net cf cooking a rom.
Are there any other benefits of forcing .Net using the reg hack as posted in Dev & Hacking? Stability, Security, etc?
Stock ROM is still pretty good though - haven't felt the need to start with cooked ROMS just yet (or am I wrong? )
What are the differences between this hack and deep linking of ROM cooking?
this hack only force program that remote call procedures to be linked with new .net cf. Deeplinking take this benefits to the whole system, even for static linked procedures. I'm not a cooking expert but remember some posts in elf/elfin section about this
Wait new sys/xip port from itje to start with cooked roms and you'll see your device flying as porting sys/xip envolve even relink of all libraries (anyway, major benefits will come from new sys/xip)
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simple answer doesn't exists: it's generally "NO", but should be "a little" if you force programs to use new .net libraries (check the link posted by CalvinH) and "a lot" if you link all libraries to new .net cf cooking a rom.
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ok, we will agree to disagree (not that I disagree that it'll improve performance since it's always any developer's objective (but not the only) to release faster/better library with new version)
Thanks for the modaco link.
Helped me out!
Hi guys,
I have a question about the Magic 8 Ball that was extracted from Topaz. Does it require NET CF 3.5 to run it? Currently, I've just downloaded the files in that post and extracted them to my microSD card. When I try double clicking on the .exe file, nothing happens. Is that an indication that NET CF 3.5 is required?
My THD still only has NET CF 2.0 on it. Haven't figured out how to properly uninstall NET CF 2.0 and replace it with NET CF 3.5 on it yet.
Cheers.
As far as I know Net Framework is not the issue, you are missing some other libraries, which are included in the Topaz ROM.
Btw: You can run both NET CF 2.0 as well as version 3.5!
johnpatcher said:
As far as I know Net Framework is not the issue, you are missing some other libraries, which are included in the Topaz ROM.
Btw: You can run both NET CF 2.0 as well as version 3.5!
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John,
Thank you for the prompt response. Are these just .dll files that must be in the same folder? Or has the .exe file been written to detect these .dll files to be in the Windows folder?
It'd be great if I could just have all the files in the same Magic 8 Ball folder and run it off by simply starting the .exe .
Cheers.
here is the cab file for you to install it. I would install .net 3.5 as well to be sure
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here is the cab file for you to install it. I would install .net 3.5 as well to be sure
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David,
Thank you very much for that. Before I install it, I have a quick question, is this the version which requires the newer Manila? Because I'm still using stock ROM and I don't have the newer manila yet. :lol:
I still haven't grown a pair to start flashing the device yet.
Cheers.
is this the magic 8 ball that you get an answer when you shake your phone?
@Poisonwolf - Not sure as i am using Duttys Custom ROM but is dont see why it would not work on any WM phone with Gsensor.
@Brusko1972 - Yes
So let me goes straight in to the problem...
I just bought my self a nice elfin...and i really want to put some nice application or games on it...
But i had a problems with some of the instalation...such as :
i'm installing .NET CF 3.5...the process is going smoothly, but when i looking at the program list,,, there's no icon of the program....but when i check it on the remove program list...the program is there....
is it the program that run on the background or what seems to be the problems ?
This also goes with the program rlToday, spb..and etc....
I wonder whats wrong with it...some programs are ok, but some others can not run....
and yes i'm using activesync....
Is there any problem with my ppc ? or is there any required program needed to installing such an application ?
what is compact framework is ?
Please guys...help needed here...i'm eagerly modifying the look of my elfin and add niceprogram that i found in this forum...
best regard...
Mark
Before we start, is your HTC Genuine?
Your phone is Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1?
.NET CF 3.5 shouldnt show up in your programs as it is something like Adobe Flash, when the program needs it, than it will run.
If you above answers is a yes, you can flash to one of the ROMS here like Onyx 4.7 or SX.