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Start button without using Stylus?

I'm probably missing something obvious but on my XDA Mini S I don't appear to be able to press the "start" button on the today screen via a hard button (used to be centre button on my old XDAIIs) without having to get the stylus out.

I'm sure we're both missing something, 'cus I concur.
However, if you find yourself desperate you can install my program VJKeypress (on my website) and use the command line 91 to pop the start menu. Make a shortcut and assign it to a hardware key.
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i just slide the keyboard out a bit about .75cm and the start key on the keyboard is exposed, press it and VOILA!! hahaha, yah i thought the keyboard wouldn't work unless its out all the way but it does :lol:

i use my finger.
sometimes i miss

zsizsi said:
i use my finger.
sometimes i miss
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If God wanted me to pull the stylus out everytime, he wouldn't have given me fingers! also anything to hand (as long as gentle) ie a real pen (nib withdrawn or the ink might mark the screen), screwdriver, key etc.
Also screen protector so you dont damage anything

I made this for using on my i-mate k-jam.
After installation you can use left software key to Start

Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).

Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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thats what i did except have button 4 to ok/close and button 4 hold to start

Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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I guess its all about personal preference
I installed the above cab file as i already have all the hardware buttons set to what i want but never used the Calendar soft key and had been after a way to do this for ages so thanks kjk :wink:
Chris

Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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Yup, me too.
By far the simplest solution.
I did try installing VITO ButtonMapper so I could have multiple apps mapped to the buttons but it has screwed up my 'soft buttons'.
DON'T USE IT, or Battery Pack Pro for that matter as it screwed up the whole PDA.
RObin

Puckster said:
I guess its all about personal preference
I installed the above cab file as i already have all the hardware buttons set to what i want but never used the Calendar soft key and had been after a way to do this for ages so thanks kjk :wink:
Chris
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Glad to help

Robster said:
Priit said:
Why do you want to do this easy thing in such a complex way? Just open Settings, click Buttons and assign <Start Menu> to any of your hardware buttons. I have configured Button 1 to open start menu (it's messaging bu default) and Button 2 for <OK/Close> (that button is IE by default).
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Yup, me too.
By far the simplest solution.
I did try installing VITO ButtonMapper so I could have multiple apps mapped to the buttons but it has screwed up my 'soft buttons'.
DON'T USE IT, or Battery Pack Pro for that matter as it screwed up the whole PDA.
RObin
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i had the same problems with vito buttonmapper. toggling buttonmapper on and off a few times seemed to fix it. not very good i know but it works perfectly now.

I used to set the Comm button to act as the start button. Don't do that anymore these days because i needed the quick button to the Comm manager. Thank god for fingers
I still bind the memo/speech button on the right to the OK/Close button at the top right button. Found it easier to use when typing the the keyboard or in normal mode.

All well least it wasn't me being dim! thanks for all the suggestions but just don't have a spare button to remap.
You'd think that they would have bound the Today screen "Start" function to a press of the directional button as it doesn't do anything else when on the today screen(as it was on the Blue Angel), but maybe that's just too logical!

assigning START menu to a button doesn't work when u have tomtom running. The menu pops up and just disappears again. It works in most of other apps though.

Got it!!!!
Just discovered that holding down the left soft key for about 1 second(rather than just tapping it to open calendar) opens the Start menu.

This is the feature of Smartskey

But I don't have smartskey installed so this must be a default function

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But I don't have smartskey installed so this must be a default function
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Tried it here on my 2.24 ROM and it does not work. I press and hold for a second, also tried other varying lengths of time, and sure enough I always get the app the left soft button has been assigned.

Bizarre, works fine on mine - 2.21.4.1 Rom, 2.07 Radio UK XDA Mini S
Only apps I have installed are SPBBackup, Resco Explorer trial (expired) and TT5
Maybe a feature of the O2 UK Ext Rom?!?

Remap Start button

My Atom Life has a Windows/Start button that by default points to the start menu. I, however, do not use the start menu that much. As a result, I tried to use AE Button to change the start button to no avail. Detail as below:
When I use AE button to add button the first time, it shows 00FC. If I map anything to this code, it runs well but the start menu also pops up.
When I use AE button add button the second time (still pressing the start button), it shows 405B. Mapping anything to this button (like task, note, etc.) works perfectly, except that the other buttons mapped by AE button does not work (damn).
I tried almost every combination of binding/unbinding but to no avail.
Is there a way to do it? I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanks a ton.

I got it
I tried the only thing I have not tried. I used AE Button Plus in addition to Vito Buttonmapper 4.0
1. Bind 00FC to another function (e.g. Ok/close)
2. Unbind 405B
3. Use Vito Buttonmapper to remap other keys.
Is there another way? Cuz both these things are kinda expansive.

testdasi said:
I tried the only thing I have not tried. I used AE Button Plus in addition to Vito Buttonmapper 4.0
1. Bind 00FC to another function (e.g. Ok/close)
2. Unbind 405B
3. Use Vito Buttonmapper to remap other keys.
Is there another way? Cuz both these things are kinda expansive.
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try PQzII, is free. it's intended for keyboard type devices but also work on non-keyboard type machine. I recently helped a friend to install it on his Atom Exec. Now, he use the win button to launch task manager (from PQzII) & the mail button for ok/close.
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/PQzII.htm

I tried but did not work Cannot find the start button in the list. Thanks anyway. At least you tried to help.

testdasi said:
I tried but did not work Cannot find the start button in the list. Thanks anyway. At least you tried to help.
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do you mean the button with the window logo that bring up the start menu? If yes, that would be "WIN" under the code list.

deadeyed said:
do you mean the button with the window logo that bring up the start menu? If yes, that would be "WIN" under the code list.
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this tool should be mandatory in all ROMs omg.

[Solved]Cannot map the BACK key anymore with AE Button plus or MobileMagic

I cannot assign any actions with AE Button plus 2.6.4 to the back key on my Touch HD any more
I swear i could some days ago, but now i cannot... I use the "Action Key" in the settings of AE Button plus to map the actions should happen after pressing the back button, but nothing happens. All the other Key assignments work fine.

Have the same situation, any hint for a solution?

you can always add the missing button using "file, add button", press it (it will show you keycode "405C"), then "add key". Its added to the list as "Button #405C". Then define behaviour as usual.

AB Buttons
Had the same problem. Uninstalled from memory stick and reinstalled to device. Problem Solved. i think it has something to do with the usb connection. When you connect to pc from disk transfer the device cannot see the memory stick and all AE button settings are lost. Hope it Helps.

great thanks I'll check it out!

original_ganjaman said:
Had the same problem. Uninstalled from memory stick and reinstalled to device. Problem Solved. i think it has something to do with the usb connection. When you connect to pc from disk transfer the device cannot see the memory stick and all AE button settings are lost. Hope it Helps.
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Still have the problem Maybe some application "destroyed" me something in the configuration of my HD.. any ideas I can fix it?
The key is working, but I cannot assgin any actions to it with AEButton and if I add the key manually (File -> Add KEY) it tells me, that I pushed the WINDOWS KEY , code 405C, is THIS the original code of the HTC back key? Please check if your code is the same

OK fixed it!
Just added the Key 405C manually into the .cfg file, than i assigned some actions to it and restarted. After this I assigned some actions to the OK Key in the AE Button settings and deleted the 405C key, after this it worked PM me if you experience problems!

Koffein Schluck said:
OK fixed it!
Just added the Key 405C manually into the .cfg file, than i assigned some actions to it and restarted. After this I assigned some actions to the OK Key in the AE Button settings and deleted the 405C key, after this it worked PM me if you experience problems!
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would appreciate it you could post an example of your key entry into the config file. thanks.

any ideas for configuring home key and backspace key ?

any ideas for configuring home key and backspace key ?
i've tried with AE Button, but it doesn't work claerly.
or maybe there are somewhere regkeys ?
i don't think, that this is hardcoded somewhere .... or ?
some ideas ?
cu camel

As I know, the 'Home' key is not configurable in HD, not sure about the 'Back' key.
camro said:
any ideas for configuring home key and backspace key ?
i've tried with AE Button, but it doesn't work claerly.
or maybe there are somewhere regkeys ?
i don't think, that this is hardcoded somewhere .... or ?
some ideas ?
cu camel
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The "back" key is mapped as "OK button" in AEButtons, and can be configured. The home one seems to be almost impossible to do as said by AEB devver

bbonzz said:
The "back" key is mapped as "OK button" in AEButtons, and can be configured. The home one seems to be almost impossible to do as said by AEB devver
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the back key is not fully able to configure.
if you try to set : "left button" and then try the button always go to home screen and then "left button".
if you try it ex: under "programms" go to lnext left icon -> then it jumps back to "home" screen + left
cu camel

well - i'm trying to find out how to map the keys on HTC Blackstone....
here is also a interesting link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3144390#post3144390
for now i know:
TOP:
Power Button can fully handled (short click + long click) via lnk file.
LEFT: (there are 2 buttons)
Can fully remapped via AEB Plus (1-,2-,3-short click, + long click).
BOTTON:
there are 4 buttons:
"Green Key",
-> mapping possible via AEB Plus,
but for long key you have to use: AEBPlus + Button: "Button1(Hold)" - don't ask me why, bnut it works on this way..)
"Home Key"
-> nothing possible !!!
"Back Key"
-> not really mapable (mapping possible, but always send to wanted mapping ~backspace and jump back to Homescreen and then the mapped button will execute - little bit strange ..)
Longpress also doesn't work
"Red Key",
-> mapping possible, but without Long Press
tried with aebutton also (last version)
some additional ideas ?
cu camel

Anyone know how to re-map camera app to camera button on X2?

Accidentally screwed over some files >.>

I got same problem. I assign task manager to x-panel manager button, unfortunately it change camera button to run task manager too. After removing assignment camera button not working.
AEButton assign camera button together with panel button, recognizing them as one (ctr key).

kingarthas said:
I got same problem. I assign task manager to x-panel manager button, unfortunately it change camera button to run task manager too. After removing assignment camera button not working.
AEButton assign camera button together with panel button, recognizing them as one (ctr key).
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Use the OK key instead and assign a long press for task manager and a short press for ok key.
It works flawlessly

HOW do you assign a button? You need a program for that? If so, is there a way to assign the voice command to a button?

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HOW do you assign a button? You need a program for that?
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I'm using aebutton plus, it has also an handy integrated task manager (I assigned it to long press OK button)
If so, is there a way to assign the voice command to a button?
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Maybe, but I cant help a lot here, VC is not available in Italian, and I feel a bit stupid talking with a machine in English
So, I never used it.

Well, you could use German or French to talk to your phone too
I will give this program a try. And report back. By the way, what are you using this for? And if one assigns only 1 button, will the rest be changed too, or only that one. Don't want any more trouble with the X2.... if I can avoid it

By the way, what are you using this for?
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I use (and used it for years) it mainly to remap the volume rocker as a "fake jog dial" (very handy to read ebooks) and because the AEBP task manager is quickest task manager to use when you have to quick swich from an app to another or to kill a stuck application w/o messing with the touch screen.