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Does anyone here use their MS Mobile 2003 “smart” phone with a Bluetooth car kit?
I wonder if you can help me…
With my old Nokia phone, it used to activate the connection to the car kit when I turned on the engine.
However, on the MDA Compact, I have to go to Bluetooth, select the car kit, and select “Set as Hands-free” every time I get into the car, witch is rather annoying.
Does anyone know how to make this automatic? Is there a third party utility perhaps that would monitor the availability of the car kit every so often, and connect to it automatically when it is available?
And another question, does anyone know of a good utility for voice dialling?
I tried Microsoft Voice Command 1.5, it is alright, more or less (apart from awful recognition of spoken numbers, even if spoken by upper class English people) it does recognise the contact names, witch is all that I need - however, I cannot get it to react when I press the action button on the car kit.
I still have to take the phone out of my briefcase, and hold it in my hand, witch is illegal whilst driving.
My dream application, would be something basic, that I can train for certain contacts that I call regularly (like with my old nokia phone, which appeal glows by the minute) – as this way, thick eastern European accents do not matter ;-)
Thanks in advance for any pointers!
I have the MDA Compact Working with the CK7W form Nokia.
Works good exept the voice dailing, You can thakeand disconnect a call with the remote controle.
But do you have to manualy connect to the car kit every time you get into the car?
Once it is connected, I can accept and end calls using the action button. so that is not a problem
No just hold the center button of the remote for 2 seconds, than it will connetct again
tbouman said:
I have the MDA Compact Working with the CK7W form Nokia.
Works good exept the voice dailing, You can thakeand disconnect a call with the remote controle.
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Hold on a minute, I have the same Nokia car kit, and my Compact when connected suffers badly with reported echoes at their end, not mine.
Do you have this problem?
I was to believe that this was a common problem not resolved yet!
Mike.
I'm gonna test this tomorrow in my shop, I will place a list with phones(other than Nokia) that will work with the CK7W[/quote]
My car kit is CK-1W
I am generaly happy with it, apart from the fact that on the MDA I have to manualy connect every time I get into the car.
I used it with many different phones, and it works fine.
so I think that it is the bluetooth manager of the MDA that is to blame.
my compaq Ipaw bluetooth manager was the best!
but this one, I cannot even get the activesync to work...
For the manual connect you have 2 blame the BT manager in w2003se.
I have good results with:
Nokia CK7W:
Qtek 9090
Qtek S100
Sony Ericsson P910(I)
Sony Ericsson P700i
Samsung D500
HP6340
Are there alternative bluetooth managers?
or a reg. hack I can implement?
thanks
Hmmm, I Don't know...Anyone?
Apparently not…
I had the same problems with my mr handsfree genius car kit, and i thought it was the fault of the car kit.
Just upgrade your rom to 1.06 and all your problems will disappear most likely.
Which rom do you have?
Andre
I have an old ROM.
however, all my atempts at upgrading it failed.
my device ID is something like TMOB-005, not 001
cracked update exe file did not help, running the scripts to modify the ROM files did not help...
in the end I felt inept, and gave up ;-)
So I have a Universal and a Wizard. I prefer the Universal to use as MP3 player cause it has a normal headphone jack so i can use my Sony headphones rather than the crappy headphones that comes with the wizard. The only thing is that the universal lack of hardware buttons and its hard to reach them while in my pocket cause the universal is abit big. I've done some research before to find a "media remote control" for my universal like on the psp or minidisc. Since I coudnt fint it i bounced into that credit card sized mini bluetooth keyboard! Since the keyboard is that expensive and i dont need a BT keyboard... made me come on the idea of using the wizards keyboard and/or hardware buttons to controll my universal via BT. So my question is, is there such app to do this? I've been searching on google but only fond VNC and TSC like apps, and I couldnt find anything either on this forum. I hope someone can help me out [:
im not sure about ppc but if you pair the universal and a se k700i you can control the universal with it using the remote control app that comes with it
Get something like this:
http://www.usglobalsat.com/item.asp?itemid=98
You can control your Uni's media player and can use your custom SONY headset.
Also, there is other similar product which I like better (look for the R35):
http://www.itechdynamic.com/product.asp
Hi
I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Sim Access Profile capabilkity of the of TyTn to connect with a Bluetooth car kit. I'm trying to get the connection going with a Merc. car kit, but I can't get them to pair.
Thx
Hi petes, I have an slk 55 amg with command and bluetooth. The bluetooth in the command system does not work for pairing with a phone. Even though it says it has bluetooth. To use bluetooth you need an extra module.
Hope this helps...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...y-arrived-but.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
http://www.wireless4mb.com/phones.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...pic-seems-kit.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
Hi Dale
Thanks. I actually already have the module - the european version of the module is different to the US one in that it uses Sim Access Profile, rather than just acting as a headset. The TyTn says is supports SAP, but I just can't make it work - wondering if anyone's actually got SAP working.
pete S
Hi Petes,
I also have an Mercedes-Benz with the european bluetooth module. But I have a Qtek 9100 updated to AKU2 (Which is supposed to support SAP), but no luck at all. Actually the module can not even identify my phone and display it at the search screen of the comand screen. I tried also with a NOKIA 6230i (SAP Compatible phone) which actually I was able to see at the search list of the comand screen which means that the module is working with SAP compatible phones. What I will do next, is to try again with the new firmware I installed to my 9100 (T-Mobiles 2.21 Version) which has a SAP application for bluetooth (Something like SAP Server).
I can not do it yet because I am abroad and I will be back again 1st of September. I will let you know the results ASAP.
If you have any news from your site with TyTn please let me know because I was intending to change my 9100 to TyTn just for the SAP functionality.
Hi Barsam
The reason you can't find the 9100 when you search with the BT module is that it only looks for devices which identify themselves as Phones. The TyTn (and no doubt the 9100) identify themselves as Pocket PCs and so the (stupid!) Mercedes kit ignores them. The good news is that you can hack the registry to tell the Bluetooth stack that it's a phone. The bad news is that you can't pair with it. Getting it into the search screen doesn't mean it supports SAP - I could see my old T68 just when I was testing. Could you actually pair with the 6230i - i.e. when you see it in the list select Call?
When you're back, PM me and I'll send you the hack.
To tell you the truth I didn't try to pair the 6230i, but it's one of the phones that mercedes have tested on the bluetooth module. If I don't manage to do it with the 9100 I may get a 6230i. At least I can use the one that my brother has to test it and even copy my contacts to comand. Have you tried the hack with the TyTn? Can you tell me what is the the registry set to do that?
Where did you find out that the bluetooth module ignores enything elese than phones?
Make the following registry change
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS]
"COD"=dword:52020C
On your own head etc.. Keep a copy of the current value of course. Then do a soft reset. You'll then see it as a phone. I've tried this, and can now see the phone, but can't pair. I've had a mail back from HTC that they're aware of some problem with the SAP and are working on it.
I wish a nice car kit would be released in the USA that supports SAP/850 & 1900/ external aerial...
hello,
i'm trying to get my TyTN working with my Meceder Command too... does anyone tried the English ROM-Update? Someone wrote that he can use it's TyTN with his Audi after updating the ROM. And tha Audi-MMI-System works also with SAP... perhpas after the ROM-Update it works with Mecedes Command System too...
I haven't tried it yet - I've been waiting for the TyTn update to come along, but nothing from HTC yet. If I don't get anything soon, I'll switch over to the iMate ROM and report back.
I have used a nokia 6233 6280 onmy E55 2005 with B/t Module
The mercedes module in conjuntion with the command system is problimatic, hoever I think I have another peice of the puzzle. With both the above phones they only worked using Vodaphone 3g cards Three 3g cards paired using SAP however could not get recieption....Mercedes say (there guessing) its the way the sim card is configured.....
Mercedes BT
I have a TYTN on order and Im desperate to find a solution to the issue before it arrives.....
As a follow on to my last post ...basically what I THINK found out was if the sim card was configured to work only on a 3G phone..(some networks do this so that they cannot be put in a 2.5g phone and constantly roam on).....then it would pair with the Bluetooth module in Mercedes however never get recieption.
I tried this on several phones including 6233 6280 N80 E61.....just to name a few....ALL PAIRED....however If I put a Vodaofone 3g Card in then IT worked .....IF i put a Three 3G card in it didnt.....BUMMER CAUSE I'm with THREE.....
I hope this helps in some way and Im more than happy to be corrected however these are my first hand expeirnces....I WANT TO USED THE TYTN in my MErc so Im keen to help in amy way....I have unlimited access to phones...so if anyone has any other suggestions Im happy to give it a go....
Mark
At the moment, you'll find that by default the merc kit won't even see the Tytn (it's a pocket pc, not a phone as far as Bluetooth is concerned). You can hack the registry to change this, but then the phone will be seen, but pairing will fail. Hopefully, the forthcoming firmware update will fix this - I've had mail back from HTC support to suggest they know there are problems with the SAP support.
Mercedes BT
Is there anyone who had paired Nokia phones with Mercedes BT(euro spec) successfully? I had tried for several Nokia phones (6230i/6270/6280) to pair with BT ,all failed. I can just find the 16-digit PIN on Comand, no phone appears on Comand. Phone & Comand can't find each other. Do I have to set other setting except the "bluetooth setting" for mobile phone? Even I try to "search for audio enhancements" and 'find no devices' at all .
Thanks Petes,
Did they give any idea on time frames?...Did you have any thoughts about my experience with the different sim cards....
Mark
I am considering buying the HTC TyTN and the Merc Bluetooth module so I am very keen to know if anyone can get this working.
Thanks,
Ady
Nope - no news on timescales I'm afraid - just waiting for the firmware update from HTC. I'm reluctant to try the iMate firmware at the moment - until there's an HTC to go back to in case something goes awry. Has anyone had a chance to try SAP with either of the newer firmwares (iMate or Dopod) - might give us a good clue if the HTC one's going to work.
I've connected my 6230i easily enough, just remember to allow "auto connect without confirmation" on the phone after entering the 16 digit code
I have tried my HW6915 pocket pc but like the other PPC's it is not recognised
A reply I got from HTC support on 21/09/2006 asking about the Merc SAP problem was:
At present the TyTN is only compatable with a limited number of kits. A ROM update will be released shortly to update this.
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So fingers crossed that it will be soon and solve the problem.
I asked them the same thing a while ago and just checked back in on availability. Just got ...
"At present the HTC ROM for the TyTN is being written and tested and we expect it to be released in the very near future."
So, patience is a virtue I hear....
Hi all,
I've got a Pioneer P55BT headunit in my car, and it has support for bluetooth to use it as a handsfree, however I cannot connect my Vario II to it, as it doesnt detect it as a phone, so doesnt come up when trying to pair it.
Has anyone managed it? or have any advice?
Cheers
have you tried pioneers tech support on this one? I know its not directly helpful, but if they are not currently aware of a problem they cannot patch the firmware
timbouk said:
have you tried pioneers tech support on this one? I know its not directly helpful, but if they are not currently aware of a problem they cannot patch the firmware
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Havent no, not yet, always try the forum first.
Solution
Hi,
I've got exacly the same problem with a Vario II and a Pioneer DEH-P75BT. After a lot of email's and phonecalls with pioneer in the Netherlands, they came everytime back with the answer "Your phone is not on the supported models list". Yea i knew that already.
Before my Vario II is always used a SDA without problems. I discovered that when i select hands free from the vario itself, it pairs without problems. The radio just have some problems with discovering the Vario II.
The problem:
The vario II identifies itself as a PDA bluetooth device. The pioneer modules are searching for a phone or smartphone, so it just ignores the Vario II.
Solutions:
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
This can be done this way:
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems.
flue said:
Hi,
I've got exacly the same problem with a Vario II and a Pioneer DEH-P75BT. After a lot of email's and phonecalls with pioneer in the Netherlands, they came everytime back with the answer "Your phone is not on the supported models list". Yea i knew that already.
Before my Vario II is always used a SDA without problems. I discovered that when i select hands free from the vario itself, it pairs without problems. The radio just have some problems with discovering the Vario II.
The problem:
The vario II identifies itself as a PDA bluetooth device. The pioneer modules are searching for a phone or smartphone, so it just ignores the Vario II.
Solutions:
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
This can be done this way:
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems.
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You're a legend... did as you said and all worked perfectly!! well after I remembered what the code was to pair it, lol 1111.
Cheers tho, appeciate it.
Luke
that's got to be worth adding to the wiki!
how's it done?
I would def say so, sure it's a problem on a number of devices (i.e. stereos)
It's also a solution for other devices using a Microsoft BT stack.
Maybe it's worth to make it a general wiki update?
flue said:
It's also a solution for other devices using a Microsoft BT stack.
Maybe it's worth to make it a general wiki update?
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gets my vote
Vario II working with 55BT
After several tries with 55BT, I have finally managed to connect it.
The way to do that was only by using radio and not PDA. Wherever I tried to pair the devices from PDA, I was getting PIN code screen over and over.
However, after running detection as advised in the manual from the radio side, all was running fine. What might have helped was the pairing with other phone (Motorola RAZR3 to be precise) and pairing on position 2. Magic but was my case Generally, the worst thing with 55BT was the duality if I may say so of the buttons and knobs changing its funcion is different steps of the pairing - simple mistake and you need to start over.
Given the problems, I have tried Sony BT5000 and it worked like a charm, but I was afraid of the sound quality, given the mic is builin in the radio.
Finally I have decided to go Blaupunkt route, but can confirm, when paired, 55BT was working fine, althoug some echo was present during call.
mKotek said:
After several tries with 55BT, I have finally managed to connect it.
The way to do that was only by using radio and not PDA. Wherever I tried to pair the devices from PDA, I was getting PIN code screen over and over.
However, after running detection as advised in the manual from the radio side, all was running fine. What might have helped was the pairing with other phone (Motorola RAZR3 to be precise) and pairing on position 2. Magic but was my case Generally, the worst thing with 55BT was the duality if I may say so of the buttons and knobs changing its funcion is different steps of the pairing - simple mistake and you need to start over.
Given the problems, I have tried Sony BT5000 and it worked like a charm, but I was afraid of the sound quality, given the mic is builin in the radio.
Finally I have decided to go Blaupunkt route, but can confirm, when paired, 55BT was working fine, althoug some echo was present during call.
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The problem described above is that the radio doesn't detect the PDA. As i understand from your post, is that your radio does find the PDA by default, right? Or have you paired the pda once, and registered on the radio? This shoud work by default.
flue said:
Hi,
I've got exacly the same problem with a Vario II and a Pioneer DEH-P75BT. After a lot of email's and phonecalls with pioneer in the Netherlands, they came everytime back with the answer "Your phone is not on the supported models list". Yea i knew that already.
Before my Vario II is always used a SDA without problems. I discovered that when i select hands free from the vario itself, it pairs without problems. The radio just have some problems with discovering the Vario II.
The problem:
The vario II identifies itself as a PDA bluetooth device. The pioneer modules are searching for a phone or smartphone, so it just ignores the Vario II.
Solutions:
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
This can be done this way:
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems.
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flue,
I have the HTC Prophet pda and the pioneer DEH P75BT and have just changed the value in the registry as you suggested (haven't had chance to test it yet though) but I trust it will work.
Have you used the BT Audio function on the stereo to stream music from your pda to the stereo yet?
My experience is that it's a painful process to pair but the quality of music once paired is second to none. I eventually gave up with it though because of the dreadful pairing process.
Could this be to do with the COD? I mean is there a seperate COD code for a wireless stereo?
neomagik said:
flue,
I have the HTC Prophet pda and the pioneer DEH P75BT and have just changed the value in the registry as you suggested (haven't had chance to test it yet though) but I trust it will work.
Have you used the BT Audio function on the stereo to stream music from your pda to the stereo yet?
My experience is that it's a painful process to pair but the quality of music once paired is second to none. I eventually gave up with it though because of the dreadful pairing process.
Could this be to do with the COD? I mean is there a seperate COD code for a wireless stereo?
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Hi,
I don't really know if the prophet has a different stack of modified stack for a2dp because i don't use that phone.
I've got the universal and tytn phone here. I never figured out how to get the universal working without stuttering. My conclusion was it's a lack of processor power.
The vario II does work better with a2dp, especially after a soft-reset.
I never got pairing problems with both of them for a2dp. The radio connects fine and directly after choosing "set as wireless stereo" on the phone.
This does have nothing to do with the COD. Even with the COD set to the default value (pda), and you set your radio as headset/wireless-stereo from the phone, is should work without problems. Even registering on the pioneer should be possible then.
The only thing it doesn't with the default COD is automaticly connecting to the bluetooth headset when powering on the pioneer device.
I seems that the pioneeer deh-b75bt does not have the funcionality to auto-connect a2dp, such as the headset does. Too bad
Thanks for the info flue.
I've now had chance to see if the phone will auto connect with the new COD and can confirm that it does. So well done that man!!!!
I can also confirm that both times I tried "set as wireless stereo" it paired with no problems and I was able to listen to mp3's on my phone through my car speakers in almost perfect quality!
BTW I installed the Tornado A2DP hack in order to get A2DP working as the Prophet isn't capable of it without it.
this procedure don't function with my TyTn on mercedes Benz Bluetooth kit.
It recognized the phone with a 16 numbers code but don't pairing. Someone have the same problem ?
Hi guis!I've got an HTC MTeor smartphone and pioneer bluetooth car stereo.Excuse me for the stupid question, but I couldn't understand how to change my phone COD from PDA to smartphone.Where do I have to type this code?Or what settings I have to change? Thank you in advance
I have a DEH-75BT as well. Have anyone found out how to get adress book transferred to the radio?
/Kasper
StoianZh,
The MTeor is a smartphone and its COD will by default already be set to smartphone. No changes are required.
Kasper_m
Use outlook on your PC
First do a Select All on your contacts* You may have more than 1000 contacts and if so may wish to break this up into one or two attempts to provent overloading the PC.*
Then choose Action->Forward as VCard
On the mail that appears choose File-> Save Atachments.
Save the VCFs to a folder and move them to your phone.
In the car use SmartExplorerEN or Resco Explorer and Select All the VCFs. Choose Send Files Via Bluetooth and the Headunit will appear in the list. Send them all to the HU
flue said:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems.
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Hi,
I have a HTC TyTN and a Pioneer DEH-P4900IB
I have the same problem as described. If I pair the phone with the Pioneer it will work fine, but as soon as either the car-stereo or the phone's bluetooth has been switched off, it will not automatically connect.
I can either re-pair it, or alternatively choose the Pioneer radio in the list of paired devices on my TyTN, click update, re-choose "Handsfree" and click save.
I have now tried your solution, and unfortunately it hasn't solved the problem.
I still have exactly the same problem. When I turn on my car, the radio will search for bluetooth devices but ends up displaying "NO TEL".
Can anyone help with a solution to this problem?
Thank you in advance.
/Erik
Hi, I have a Pioneer P75BT. I've used the COD hack, which works very well. Thanks to the original poster.
I've found that I have to leave the Vario II in discoverable mode in order for the P75BT to connect to it automatically, even though the P75BT has the Vario II registered. I can also connect it manually.
I don't like the idea of leaving my Vario in discoverable mode all the time, but it looks like thats the only way to automatically connect each time, unless someone has found another solution. Perhaps its not so much of a problem as I tend to turn off bluetooth on the Vario II when i'm not using it.
Hi all - finally my first post,
today i ordered my touch hd
After looking trough some threads i came to the conclusion that i should install davideuck's ROM and getmyself MS Voice Command 1.6 - anything i forgot for a good start?
Now, i've still got some questions and wondered if you might help me along:
- Does the phone's microphone work when headphones are attached? I'd like to use Sennheiser CX300 to listen to music but wondered if i have to unplug them every time i get a call.
- Has anyone of you tried InvisibleShield for the touch hd, and if yes, is it worth the money? (never used invisibleshield but looks kinda nice)
- After browsing the accessories board i liked the idea of having an usb dockingstation - any recommendations?
- What about Podcasts? I had the HTC Prophet (XDA Neo) for a while and didn't like the MobileCenter Filesynchronisation (only had the choice to synch all files or none)... - are there any changes to this? Or which software do u use to download and synch podcasts?
- Another annoying thing of my prophet was, that i couldnt deactivate gprs "forever", it always asked to connect; so the question is: if apps want to use inet or i formyself, is it possible that they only "work" when wlan is connected - without having them asking for any other inet connection? (i simply cant pay them...)
Thank you in advance & best greetings.
p.s.: excuse my english :/