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Receiving corporate email

Hello:
I can dial into my company network using my XDA and dialup, ok. Does anyone know how I can receive my corporate emails? I suspect I need some software for the XDA which can access MS-exchange servers, is there any such out there?
thanks

corporate mail
all i can tell you is the way we do it at our company. exchange has web access so to access our corporate mail the address would be
http://mailserver.*****.**.uk
type in your login and password and bob's your auntie.
no special software required.
ian

Hmmm. I gave it a try, no luck. maybe it is blocked by our firewall. :-(

POP server
I can do my corporate e-mails trough a pop3 server, and with the nice patch I can do my private e-mails trough a hotmail http account.
works perfect
So check if you have a pop3 mailserver account.

Similarly I check my corporate Exchange server with Pocket Outlook using IMAP4 (can get folders other than Inbox). I also get my Yahoo email using POP3.

Hmm - no idea how to use IMAP4 or how to get them through e pop3 server.
I don't know much about how mail works, i just usually collect it and send it. details on how to set these two possible solutions would be most welcome.
Icarusbop

Why don't you ask the IT dept ?
At my work place, I can access email remotely though the web interface of Exchange / Outlook. I still have to be connected the RAS service here though as the server is not advertised on the internet.
Rob.

Hmmm
the problem with that is two things...
the XDA is not a company issue thing, so they will probably not like me doing this.
Our it dept is ridiculously crap.
Icarusbop

Icarusbop are you useing vodaphone on your xda ii

Yes, I am using vodafone. I have a company mobile, calls are paid for by company, so I obviously wanted to use the voda card in my XDA II

if you got an exchange server, you can add activesync and outlook mobile access with server 2003 and get your email auto updated thru text messaging. I have the whole set up hosted out of my apartment

mail2web with outlook?

Outlook is officialy not supportet at mail2web live i think, but is there a way to use your desktop outlook with the free service?
currently i sync my Wizard with my Outlook and the Exchange Service, so i have all things synced between outlook and exchange indirectly, but a direct sync would be better.

Yeah, I've tried messing about with Outlook to get it to connect to the exchange server, but no luck so far. If anybody knows a way, then please post it here!

I think the only way to "hack" the service for desktop outlook would be a OMA Plugin for outlook, to sync with the Server ActiveSync.

lutzs said:
I think the only way to "hack" the service for desktop outlook would be a OMA Plugin for outlook, to sync with the Server ActiveSync.
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Could you post any more info about this?

Ye please! would be very interrested in a solution

If you think it have such a tool you misunderstood.
There are only 2 open doors to mail2web: OWA (Outlook Web Access) and OMA (Outlook Mobile Access). We can forget OWA. OMA is for syncing PocketPCs (ActiveSync Server). So we need a plugin or tool for the desktop outlook, that make it syncing over OMA!

Is there any development in this area. I was looking to sync my web2mail with my Desktop outlook.? Is it possible at all?
Cheers

I am presently using mail2web live very successfully.
I have my comcast email forwarded to the mail2web email address and leave the messages on my comcast server to download later to outlook.
I put the mail2web server source settings into Active Sync. It somehow syncs these server settings to the pda and with my unlimited monthly cingular data plan, I get ALL of my email OTA downloaded to my PDAphone immediately as it arrives to comcast.
Works great.

Yeah, that is possible. I am getting my gmail OTA, which I have forwarded to mail2web. My question was about syncing mail2web with desktop outlook, not mobile outlook. The idea is, then I dont have to sync with PC using USB cable at all. I sync with mail2web OTA, and when I log on to outlook on my PC it will sync with mail2web. So, I dont need a physical connection between PC and handheld. :lol:

This works if you pay $1.99 to mail2web.
However I too would like a free version.

Is it $1.99 per month..?

Yes
http://services.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail/

or something I am in the process of trying
getting ADSL with a static IP address / web address and using the OWA MS 2003 server settings, setting my PC as a server, so I can use the MSFP to directly sync in with my home PC ( I think you need XP Pro to do this though, not XP Home).
This will also allow me to VPN in and take anything from home out and about.
I should also be able to do this to e.g. play my music files from my PC on my device. Will let you know how this works.
Unfortunately I am not a software developer, but if any of you need an idea; do what I just said in a one off program that runs on any PC and cradled device - syncs 'em together via GPRS / wi-fi that would be nice.

Just to let you guys know that mail2web now offer a FREE MS Exchange based e-mail account called 'mail2web Live'. As standard you can use it with ActiveSync (...and direct push if you're using WM5).
You also get access to the usual Outlook Web Access (OWA) and Outlook Mobile Access (OMA).
I've been playing around with it for the last few days and I'm well impressed - so much so that I've upgraded to their 'personal exchange' plan - to my mind a bargain for a meagre $1.99 a month. This gets rid of the banner and google ads that do take up the best part of 1/2 of the screen in the free version as well as giving you a gig of space and a few other goodies.
Cheers,
Rik

Here's the cheap way of getting picking up emails on outlook and using direct push
Sign up for 2 email accounts, one mail2web account and another email account that uses pop3(or use an existing one).
Set up email forwarding from the pop3 account to mail2web.
Set up your outlook account to leave email on the server.
This way you get the best of both worlds.
Then set activesync to sync to both outlook and mail2web and get the emails from mail2web so thats it uses direct push.
One other thing you could do is to use an advert blocker (like adblock in firefox) this gets rid of the adverts as well.
hope that helps save some cash
thanks
wayne

Here's the cheap way of getting picking up emails on outlook and using direct push
Sign up for 2 email accounts, one mail2web account and another email account that uses pop3(or use an existing one).
Set up email forwarding from the pop3 account to mail2web.
Set up your outlook account to leave email on the server.
This way you get the best of both worlds.
Then set activesync to sync to both outlook and mail2web and get the emails from mail2web so thats it uses direct push.
One other thing you could do is to use an advert blocker (like adblock in firefox) this gets rid of the adverts as well.
hope that helps save some cash
thanks
wayne

As hedgehog1982 suggestes this is a pretty good option, especially if you have an e-mail address on your own domain. This does have a couple of drawbacks though...
(i)
When you send (or reply to) an e-mail it will come from the mail2web account and not your POP account. You can get around this by setting up both accounts on your XDA (i.e. ActiveSync for your mail2web account and SMTP to send from your own e-mail address) - however, you'll have to remember to send from the SMTP when you send and don't hit reply.
(ii)
You'll effectively get two coppies of your e-mails (one to mail2web on your XDA and one to your POP inbox) - so if you want to delete an e-mail for example you'll have to do it on both. The beauty of the ActiveSync setup is that both server and XDA sync, so if you delete/move/organise your e-mails/calendar/contacts/tasks on either, the other also updates.
There are companies out there that will give you a single (or more) Exchange account(s) on your own domain but this will cost you more - most start from about a fiver a month.

Any way to sync mail2web with Desktop outlook yet?

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When you send (or reply to) an e-mail it will come from the mail2web account and not your POP account. You can get around this by setting up both accounts on your XDA (i.e. ActiveSync for your mail2web account and SMTP to send from your own e-mail address) - however, you'll have to remember to send from the SMTP when you send and don't hit reply.
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Guys how do you set in your PPC "both accounts to send from your own email-address" ? My target is to get mails pushed from my corporate exchange server and to be able to reply also using my corporates email address. But our company doesn't allow any remote access to exchange (except VPN with my notebook and OWA).
The only workaround I found is to have redirect emails from exchange server to f.e. gmail, in gmail you can set an alternative email address you can send from (it will fake my [email protected] and send it "on behalf of xx"). This way I can receive and send my emails from my PDA and it looks quite well. But - with gmail I only can pull and not push.
So using mail2web.com I could push and reading your instruction how to set that SMTP in my PDA, it should also work to reply with my corporates address, but there is no possibility to set this you described...how did you do that?

I think what he means is to setup your exchange account as POP3/IMAP, but never use it to receive, only use it to send.
Example:
1. You have ActiveSync setup with mail2web (push), and you setup gmail to forward to this account based on filtering or direct forward.
2. You setup another account with the same details as your exchange server. Have this account setup so that it never downloads. Depending on your setup, you would need to setup either POP3 or IMAP. I would suggest IMAP.
3. When you want to reply to a message, don't hit reply from your 'Outlook Messages' (that's your push email). You would compose a message and use your corporate email servers outgoing SMTP to send it.
However, since you mentioned that exchange is closed except via VPN, it makes me think that they have also closed all other ports.
It might be possible for you to install a VPN client on your device and sync that way?

Push email

I've just upgraded my 02 Exec to the latest rom etc. I was under the impression that it will have push email but I can't find it. When I restarted it I was given the option of choosing corporate but I didn't know what the difference was. Should I have selected that? And if so which configuration? Would that give me push email through 02? (I only have 'normal' POP3 accounts.)
Thanks!

push email is built in the the upgraded OS .... this will only work if you have an email account using Exchange Server not just emails which are using POP3 protocol. POP services uses pull email technology ...
FYI

If you want to test it try out mail2web.com and click on the "mail2web.com LIVE" link on the homepage, free exchange server with push email and you can set it to collect email from other email accounts if they don't support forwarding to mail2web (which is the closest way of getting push email from your own account unless its on an exchange server that will allow you to sync to it). Don't have push email on my MDA PRO but when t-mobile bring out a new rom with it enabled I'll give it a go.

Thanks alot for your replies.

Configure Outlook Email to work with Pop3 account

I apologize for my ignorance regarding Pop3 email as all I use is corporate email. I setup an activesync partnership on a laptop that only has EarthLink email. I kind of expected to be able to configure the 8125 to send / receive EarthLink email from it's Outlook E-Mail but it seems that I need to create an separate Pop3 account for EarthLink on his PDA?? I'm sure I'm missing something extremely simple but my searches have been fruitless.
Feel free to blast me into oblivion ( after pointing me in the right direction of course!)
Fire when ready Gridley!
tia
Steven

Assuming you wish to get your pop3 email on your PDA whilst it is not connected to your laptop (GPRS or WiFi) you wll you need to create a new email profile on the PDA using your existing email settings. If you just want to syncronise your email between the laptop and PDA then just set up this relationship in Activestink. If you want to use your PDA as the medium over which your laptop will connect to your email account then you will need to configue your PDA as a modem.
Let me know if I am way off in uderstanding your problem...

So my understanding is that even though the client has one email account with EarthLink and he'd like to synchronize his contacts, calendar and email with his PC he has to create a new Pop3 account on his PDA that retrieves his email while he's on the golf course or wherever that is completely separate from his Outlook E-Mail? (and this guy wonders why I'm trying to push him into a corporate email account!)
Thanks for the help!
Steven

Yep. Thats how I do it. My POP3 account is duplicated on my PDA and laptop. I use the T-Mobile web push service to shove the emails to the PDA just like text messages. I can't see why a corperate email account would be any better or different. I also have my corperate email on my PDA and corperate laptop. Same process....

Thanks for your help regarding this but now I'm confused. With my corporate I have one and only one account on my PDA which synchronizes with my Exchange server. My question is ... can my client's EarthLink email be downloaded to his PDA's main Outlook E-mail which was configured when I created the AS partnership? Or does he have to have new emails delivered to his EarthLink profile and use his PDA's Outlook profile only to review old emails when his PDA is on the road? This makes absolutely no sense.
There is a major difference between this then and Exchange email.
Sorry to be so boneheaded but I really can't believe that this is supposed to work like this!
Steven

Goodness your starting to confuse me :? AFAIK the Outlook email profile on your PDA is purely there to act as a syncronised copy of the email client that you configure AS to work with. If you look in your PDA email options you do not get the opportunity to configure this profile. In effect this profile only gives the user the ability to store on his PDA those emails that already exist on the partner PC. In addition he will be able to edit these emails (Reply, delete, file and create new) whilst the PDA is disconnected from the PC. Upon the next AS syncronisation any ammendments or new emails created on the PDA will be sent using the PC communication path and any new emails receievd into the main PC (Exchange) account will be updated to the PDA. This functionality is desgined for all PDA's BUT remember most PDA's don't have the phone built in so this is exactly the functionality they need.
If you want your clients coperate email to be updated "live" to his PDA (Phone Edition) there are three ways to do it:
1 Configure a POP3 or IMAP4 account on his corperate network with suitable dial-up access - This will be dog slow as the PDA will have to use the GSM (NOT GPRS) network to access.
2 Configure his MS exchange server to handle the new "push" email service available with Exchange 2003 SP2. A relationship is set up between the PDA and the Exchange server and the connection is made over the internet which will allow his GPRS/EDGE connection to be utilised which will be miles quicker than GSM dial-up. This method allows emails to be "pushed" to the PDA in a similar way to text messages rather than the client having to make a connection every 30 mins or whatever. The PDA software will need to be WM5 AKU2.
3 Use a 3rd party relay system such as Goodlink from Good technologies. The PDA can be WM2K3 and does not require AKU2 functionality as a client app will be installed on the phone. This works by having a secure connection between his corperate network and the Good Technlogy service centre which will then link to the PDA in a very similar way to option 2.
Any other email accounts will have their own profile configured on the PDA.
I sure hope this is of some help to cause my fingers are sore typing this out on my Wizard :wink:

Thanks for the info but I'm quite aware of and have been utilizing the corporate methods of PDA email for a number of years. Unfortunately all my clients have Exchange servers so I haven't had to deal with Pop email in quite a number of years. This particular client is a friend that insists on living with his Earthlink email. I'm just so used to having my email synced without having to work so hard!
I appreciate your effort !
Steven Putnam
MCSE / CCNA
(not that letters mean anything)
chow

No probs Steven, the only thing I would add is POP3 accounts on a mobile device will normally fall foul of useable SMTP gateways. I'm not sure what earthlink use but if you run into difficulties trying to send emails you'll know where to look. An SMTP relay server that accomodates user validation is required when your "off the ISP network"

Pushmail on X01HT

For all who'd like to have real pushmail on the SB X01HT without doing Blackberry, there's an interesting free solution. Provided that you have a PC running consistantly somewhere, check out www.emoze.com. They provide client a client for the PC as well ast the X01HT (I use the HTC TyTN version...).
The way it woks is that whenver a mail arrives at your PC, emoze syncs it to their servers and pushes it back to the X01HT. The mobile client is configurable, so you can be always on (real push) or sync at regular intervals.
Works great on corporate domain accounts behind firewalls as well... only issue I see is that the X01HT get's pretty slow if you are running 'always-on' on a WIFI connection...

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dandare123 said:
For all who'd like to have real pushmail on the SB X01HT without doing Blackberry, there's an interesting free solution. Provided that you have a PC running consistantly somewhere, check out www.emoze.com. They provide client a client for the PC as well ast the X01HT (I use the HTC TyTN version...).
The way it woks is that whenver a mail arrives at your PC, emoze syncs it to their servers and pushes it back to the X01HT. The mobile client is configurable, so you can be always on (real push) or sync at regular intervals.
Works great on corporate domain accounts behind firewalls as well... only issue I see is that the X01HT get's pretty slow if you are running 'always-on' on a WIFI connection...
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isnt imap push ? i mean the mail arrives within 10 seconds.

I just want to document my ideal e-mail solution as I just got everything working perfectly on my Softbank X01HT.
I have my own e-mail address on rented server space
[email protected]
This is my "real" e-mail address. All mail here is forwarded to a gmail account:
[email protected]
where it is filtered for spam, THEN forwarded to a mail2web.com Personal Exchange account.
[email protected]
mail2web.com exchange account can synch in realtime with your phone, (i.e. true PUSH mail. Maybe the free one can do this too, BUT with a paid-for personal account you can also set the FROM: field to a specific e-mail address. In my case, I set it to [email protected]!
So if you send me an e-mail to [email protected] it is checked for spam then sent to mail2web who then PUSH it onto my phone instantly.
and if I send an e-mail from my phone, the From: field just says [email protected]. The receiving party need never know it went through mail2web.com
I highly recommend this solution, the cost is less than $0.65 per month!

What is the cost for?

sorry I missed this. mail2web charges a small fee for the privilege of setting the "From" address to something other than mail2web.com . Otherwise it's free.

Could I change it to my GMail address?

yes. You can change it to whatever you like as long as you can validate that you have access to that address (you ahve to fill in a code which they e-mail to you)