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I've read a few posts on HTC Wizard battery life and I'm trying to quantify what I'm seeing (which is hard given varying conditions under which the device can be used and what features are active but I'll attempt that here). I'd really like to hear what other pepole are experiencing under similar conditoins.
I’m getting about two days worth of battery life before the unit is warning that the device needs to be recharged. Here’s what I’ve done with it over the past 2 days:
· 47 minutes time spent using the phone. I get the full 4 signal bars just about everywhere I go, including and the office and at home. I have not used the speakerphone at all.
· About 1 hour of PDA use
· Bluetooth and WiFi have been off. There was no GPRS use during this time.
· The screen brightness is set to the lowest level possible, one setting above the backlight being completely off.
· When on battery power, the backlight automatically shuts itself off after 30 seconds and the device turns itself off completely after one minute.
· I’m running Windows Mobile 5.0
The battery currently reads 18% after 2 days.
Is this in line with what other people are seeing?
I used to drain my wizard to about 50-60% in one day (from morning to evening), when I still let it go to standby, so that seems about right. It goes down a bit faster now because I always leave it on (just let the backlight go off of course) so agile messenger will stay online...
I'm pretty sure this battery life is pretty good for a pda phone though, you can't compare this to a regular phone.
I always connect it to the charger at night so it's no problem for me, and I bring a very small usb cable (like 15 cm) when I don't sleep at home. Usually there's an opportunity to connect the wizard to a computer somewhere so it'll charge, the computer doesn't need to recognize the wizard for that.
I need to charge my Wizard evry night, if it's friday with party etc alot of calls i need to have my samsung d600 with me becuase the qtek goes empty around 23.oo :/
Just done a typical "intensive" day, and I'm really pleased of that thing. Here's what I've done:
~50 min on the phone
~2h30 MP3 playing with TCPMP, LCD off of course
~30min e-mail and internet through wireless
obviously a bit more PDA use, cause uptime meter says 4h39 :wink:
I still have 54% battery at the moment.
Useful to mention, forgot to turn off wireless after browsing, so it stayed on for like 1hr with device off, and that still drains juice.
Backlight is set at the middle.
Once again, my BA would be dead by now. I had ~4h PDA use at standard clock settings, 2hr with wireless on. The Wizard just doubles both these figures. I definitely understand why they've dropped that guzzling XScale... wish there could be an optimised version of TCPMP soon though, video playback is the only thing where i see a real difference in speed, haven't managed to have a video playing smooth without hangups yet.
Skype doesn't run well, but it didn't either with the BA without overclocking it at the maximum it would hold, giving a stunning 1h30 battery life (with wireless on obviously). The device was really hot while doing this, and the standard charger would not give enough current even to power the device, battery was still going down when connected. Had to use a 2A Axim adapter to charge while skyping :shock:
So definitively a GREAT improvement.
I used my MDA Vario the other day and it went down to 18% in approx 4 1/2 hours.
Screen was at max brightness and on for the whole time,
Tom Tom running.
Bluetooth on
About what I'd expect. I don't think my Treo 650 would be much better in similar circumstances.
I just updated the other thread about the battery that up till now its been fine but two days ago the dreaded issue started with me too
I've just lost 20% in 3 hours without doing anything (its been off since)
AKU2 rom gives a definite improvement, I can have 85% left after a day of normal use.
meschle said:
AKU2 rom gives a definite improvement, I can have 85% left after a day of normal use.
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Which AKU2 rom. T mobile hasn't released one for my phone yet, to my knowledge.
The qtek rom, many vario users are using this rom out of frustration for t-mobile not releasing theirs.
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The qtek rom, many vario users are using this rom out of frustration for t-mobile not releasing theirs.
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Hey if you upgrade the ROM you should run some tests before installing any applications. It would be a definite advantage to make sure it's not some buggy app that's causing your battery drain.
agreed... I think that is my issue too that it could be a memory leak somewhere in one of the programs
can only put it down to registrywizard, uptime, or resco, the latter i doubt very much though
I upgraded my vario to the newest imate rom and would totally recommend doing so.. my battery life is about double what it used to be now (may have installed something dodgy that was draining it though)
Its also much faster in operation and seems to be a lot more stable too (I suffered a lot from the random reboot problem previously)
what did you upgrade from?
and what rom version are you running? the ones on the ftp for kjam are numbered a bit strange and can be confusing
The numbers are confusing for me as a noob to WM5/wizard.
What is the difference between the Qtek & the Imate roms?
kilrah said:
... Useful to mention, forgot to turn off wireless after browsing, so it stayed on for like 1hr with device off, and that still drains juice.
Backlight is set at the middle. ...
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WiFi doesn't drain battery when the device is turned off, cause the WiFi module will also be turned off automatically - just test it: leave WiFi on and press the power button - after a few hours look at the effect on the battery... :wink:
I usually recharge my Vario every 3-4 days. Although I don't use WiFi and I also don't make many long calls I usually use GPRS always on to receive my mails. I also use BT quite often to listen to music over my A2DP headset - maybe one hour per day on average...
So there must be something wrong with the devices of some of the people posting here... :!:
hi all i'm new here.
I'm a new user of tytn or better voda v1605. i have a big problem:
the battery life is about 3 hours. i have 3 battery, one original (1350mah) and 2 commercial (1500mah). when i put the phone in charge te battery gone very hot.
When i turn on the pda when battery gone down to 60% (in about 1 hour) the battery gone very hot about 40° celsius or more and it discharge faster. My friend have the same tytn but it works better, the battery duration is about 1 day an half using it normally. anyone know what, or where is the problem? it looks like an hardware problem, and i need help to fix it
i have official htc wm6 installed on it
thanks all
So im trying to figure out where my battery is draining to... I cannot go a full day on a battery charge and its really annoying at night it jsut dies and plus i cant really do too much on it for fear of battery drainig itself. Is there a way.. i can check to see what might be taking up battery
Wifi off
GPS Off
no 3G in the US
Bluetooth Off
Push Mail off... (though am syncing 3 mail accounts every 2 hours... minimal mail though)
Internet usage 30 minutes (besides, weather stocks)
Phone usage .. about 60 minutes in the day
Gyrator on
General usage.. games, tinkering etc (60 minutes... hey its still relatively new)
Appreciate the input.
Strange..
I've got two mail accounts, talked for 15 minutes with a bluetooth headset (been connected all day).
From 06 in the morning until now at ten in the evening I still have 7 bars on the battery. (three in the TF3D)
Consider doing a hard reset and set up stuff and see if that helps..
After tinkering for a couple of weeks, I hard reset and just put back on what I want. I also used Tweak HD which has a few tweaks to lengthen battery life. It made a big difference to me.
Orinigally it had drained in about 18 hours, afterwards it went slightly over 40 hours.
this is strange - i use my phone alot and it easily lasts 2 days
have you tried replacing it? when i bought my first diamond it was faulty, replaced it and batteyr life changed
also try flashing a stock rom on again and see what happens - less than a day - defo not right!
diamond v hd
had 3 diamonds, battery was lucky to last 10hrs, ate 2680mA battery packs like jaws ate boats!
HD, charge 1 every 2 days.... huge improvement... would love it to last longer, but its a million times better than the diamond and thats all that matters...
HD battery life in conclusion, is great, and i do hammer my phone usage!
I'm seeing similar battery issues as the OP. I barely make it through a 12 hour day on a charge, although I get a lot of e-mail on 2 accounts (one checked every 15 minutes, the other every 2 hours). In an effort to track down battery drain, I downloaded and installed HomeScreen PlusPlus and find that at rest with screen intensity at 60% my HD draws 150 mA, with the screen dimmed at 10% it draws 70 mA, and in standby (blank screen) it's drawing 30 mA. When the data connection is active, it draws between 250-300 mA, and when using the phone with screen on about 400 mA. I figure that with those numbers and a 1350 mA battery, 10-12 hours is all I can expect. If anyone else is monitoring their battery draw, I would appreciate seeing your numbers for comparison.
Oooh this is a good idea...
anyone else done homescreen++ to find battery drainage.. im going to get to it this weekend...
Have the same issue.... I have nothing special installed and for some reason it drains very fast on basic features.....
Same issue here
Recently I've been getting less than 12 hours out of a full charge. I've uninstalled a few things and turned bluetooth and wifi off and today it seems better with about 80% left after 10 hours
Vaguely considering a hard reset if the problem continues...
have fixed certain aspects now using the new version of Tweak HD
For our benefit.. could you please tell us...
1) your version of Tweak HD
2) WHat did you do to improve battery life
Thanks
Progress
So I installed Homescreen++ to be able to monitor my battery utilization... and im averagin 150mA to 350mA with it being closer to 300mA most of the time... no wonder I am getting 10-12 hours of battery life.. and this is with the device not doing anything.. except cehcking mail accounts.. NOTHING else...
I really need help with this.. every night at around 9:00pm.. i am without battery and its driving me nuts...
short of a hard reset... what can I do to monitor what programs or processes are taking up my battery?
I really feel your pain. I must recharge during the day everyday. I've ordered a second battery, but it hasn't arrived yet. I've done all I can do with HD Tweak and Schap's Advanced Config, even turned the screen brightness down further to no avail. I don't want to hard-reset, but I'm going to give that a try this weekend. Before I do, If any of you experiencing good battery life has a few moments and is willing to install HomeScreen ++, please post your numbers to compare to ours (mine are in a previous post). The download link is:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm#Download
It can easily be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" later.
Thanks in advance for your help; I am so enamored with this amazing device that I can't bear to give it up!
Battery life much better than my Kaisers...
Apparently Batti uses a lot of battery (ironically).
I've just replaced it with Ariel battery and will let you know how it goes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364278
I'm not running Batti.
I have been through an Apache, a Blue Angel, a Hermes and most recently a Kaiser before springing for this amazing Blackstone. All my previous devices made it through at least a full day before requiring a recharge.
My ROM is 1.14.405.3 and Radio is 1.09.25.14
I'm thinking of springing for the HD, I currently have a Hermes. Battery life is a major concern of mine, and on my Hermes I had to purchase a larger battery with the extended back plate.
Does the HD turn off the screen when not in use or is it on all the time? Also how does it do with WiFi on?
ent_doctor said:
I really feel your pain. I must recharge during the day everyday. I've ordered a second battery, but it hasn't arrived yet. I've done all I can do with HD Tweak and Schap's Advanced Config, even turned the screen brightness down further to no avail. I don't want to hard-reset, but I'm going to give that a try this weekend. Before I do, If any of you experiencing good battery life has a few moments and is willing to install HomeScreen ++, please post your numbers to compare to ours (mine are in a previous post). The download link is:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm#Download
It can easily be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" later.
Thanks in advance for your help; I am so enamored with this amazing device that I can't bear to give it up!
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I've got the same problem of the battery draining... i've just installed the plug in to monitor the battery and it's showing me 450ma when using opera through gprs ...isn't it a lot?please let us know if the hard reset fixes the problem
thanks
Tonight's the night
Gonna hard reset the little fella
What about WCDMA/GSM/Auto? Which one is better for batteryusage?
Hi all
I recently upgraded to WM6.5 (stock rom, TD2 on Orange UK) and have found that my battery life has reduced dramatically from 2-3 days use to less than 1 day.
I'm not using bluetooth or wi-fi and have tried to remove anything else that may be draining the battery.
The one big difference I have noticed between 6.1 and 6.5 is that I am getting a much stronger signal, 4 bars H compared to 1-2 bars H or 3G before. Could this be a cause of the battery drain?
Also, my memory usage is around the 70-80% mark whereas before it used to be between 40-60%. I have checked task manager and nothing seems to be running in the background.
I would appreciate any advice as this is really spoiling my experience with this fantastic device.
Thanks
Jeff
The wm6.5 you upgraded to is an official rom through Orange? If so, it's probably crammed with unneccessary apps (bloatware) which might explain the memory usage. The Radio ROM was probably upgraded at the same time,which explains why you appear to get a stronger signal (the newest radio roms show more bars, though the actual signal stays the same).
Maybe you would be better with one of the "lean" cooked 6.5 roms? (you need to hardspl first with olinex 1.83)
The higher signal reading wouldn't cause the battery drain, it's more likely something is "waking" the phone from suspend periodically.
Battery life lasts 2-3 days? And 40-60% memory usage on 6.1?!
Wow, I wish my D2 was like that. Mine almost lasts one entire day, and memory usage is always near 70%. I haven't done 6.5 as arabic isn't out for it yet and I need it to read the damn messages companies send.
Hi. I think I might have the same problem with battery after upgrading to official 6.5 WWE. With official 6.1 my battery lasted 2-3 days. Now around 1 day. Also my memory usage went from 50-60% to 70-80%. Then I instaled HTCPedia Topaz settings tool and with some tweaks memory usage droped again to 40-50%. But battery problem still remains. Hmmm I also installed FInixNOverBatteryIcon and then gtrab Batt enhancer. Maybe any of this two apps cause problems with the battery?
I have the ATT Pure and recently DISABLED the auto rotation for TouchFlo 3d. It is disabled by default but I decided that was one of the first things I wanted to change after getting the phone.
So far today, my phone's battery has lasted much longer. We'll see what happens by the end of the day but so far so good.
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Also, my memory usage is around the 70-80% mark whereas before it used to be between 40-60%. I have checked task manager and nothing seems to be running in the background.
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That's really strange, mine is never over 50% except when I have WMP running or watching movies via CorePlayer or inbuilt videoplayer.
I used the upgrade from the HTC site, so no Orange bloatware.
Memory currently running at 85% even though nothing seems to be running, battery not even making it through the day with just light use, i.e. a bit of surfing, couple of calls and a few texts.
I'm going to try it with the Sense off tomorrow.
Can't beleive the difference between 6.1 and 6.5, its like 2 different phones, and it seems quite a few people are having similar issues.
Is it easy to go back to 6.1?
I recently upgraded to WM6.5 (stock rom, TD2 on Orange UK) and have found that my battery life has reduced dramatically from 2-3 days use to less than 1 day.
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Afraid I'm getting the opposite - much better battery life.
As an aside, previously I was using Garmin XP satnav and haven't got around to re-installing it yet so thought I'd give CoPilot a whirl. Downloaded the maps and tried it on a 30 min journey tonight. Worked pretty well but the battery drain was much less. 100% down to 90% after 30 mins. Before with Garmin XP, it would pretty much drain the battery in an hour.
Not sure this is an core improvement to GPS battery life in 6.5 or because CoPilot has a lower battery drain.
Cheers, Rob.
Steadyeddie said:
I used the upgrade from the HTC site, so no Orange bloatware.
Memory currently running at 85% even though nothing seems to be running, battery not even making it through the day with just light use, i.e. a bit of surfing, couple of calls and a few texts.
I'm going to try it with the Sense off tomorrow.
Can't beleive the difference between 6.1 and 6.5, its like 2 different phones, and it seems quite a few people are having similar issues.
Is it easy to go back to 6.1?
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im having the exact same problem and im also interested in going back to 6.1 (the good old days when i didnt have to mess around with my phone for hours per day just to get it to function as expected eh!) 6.5 is so frustrating and can i ask what the point is of the honeycomb?
had my d2 since CW stocked it in april, and was fine until 6.5.
Hmmm...An hour ago my topaz was full charged. I made two calls while phone was pluged in. Before I unpluged it I checked battery information. Everything was ok. Time of last full charge half an hour before, standby time, call duration and device usage. Then I unpluged the phone and the time of last full charge changed to the second I unpluged the phone and all other values went to 0. Ok. That seemed ok because of talking some minutes before. I was happy and I tought now it would be OK. But 5 min ago I checked the status again...and guess what...last full charge is "Not applicable" and all other values are set to 0. sad sad sad
I'm getting major battery drain after I upgrade to the official wwe 6.5 rom as well. It's unpredictable though. Several times in the past couple weeks i've barely made it halfway through the day, then other times it's fine. I can't see any difference in what's running. This never used to happen with 6.1.
I'm getting the opposite. really much better battery life after upgrading to wm 6.5 on my diamond 2
Currently running official htc wm 6.5, ROM: 2.16.412.1 (67041) and RADIO: 4.49.25.17
Profiling Tools
Hi,
I upgraded to Dutty's 6.5 ROM - it seemed like the charge lasted for a full day but for the last couple of days battery performance has been pathetic. I checked the task manager - nothing seems to be out of place - memory usage is around 50%. I have two emails accounts set to pull items as they arrive and weather/facebook data is also pulled at regular intervals. Despite these the charge used to last for more than a day...
I am wondering if there are any tools which can show me the CPU/Memory usage by various tasks over a period of time... The phone is always warm for the last couple of days and the home screen animations are stuttering...
Any Suggestions????
TIA
Ashwin
Location Service
Hello I posted this in another thread:
Martikn said:
Hello. ..Someone tried to turn off Location Service Settings? .. Text there is: "Improve location service by collecting location data at any time when device is in use ...I switch this off and as if the rate of the battery noticeably decreased. .. I try battery tomorrow after a full charge.
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... SPB mobile shell: Settings -> System -> Location Settings and there is Location service
... at 23:00 (24 hours after full charge) battery 21%, at 6:00 battery 16% (several times alarm - G-alarm) and I charge phone.
Wallpaper and Battery Drain
Found the reason why Battery Drain increased in my TD2 Running Dutty's Wm6.5 ROM suddenly. Hard to believe but its because I have the weather animation wallpaper turned on and I changed the background to a bright colorful one (something that came with the ROM - i believe its a stock wallpaper!!)
I am not sure how (probably because of more processing required to overlay the translucent clouds over the bright red wallpaper) but this increased battery drain tremendously. Battery did not last for 3/4th of a day.
I have now switched back to the dull black wallpaper and the drain is back to the original rate (last for 1.5 days with all the other features turned ON (no 3G))...
Others, please check this out - maybe this is a common problem
--Ashwin
I upgraded to the official HTC 6.5 ROM and have the same issues with the battery barely lasting a day. If only that was the least of the problems.
Configuration is similar to my 6.1 build, except on this I've disabled the HTC Sense front end as I thought this might be responsible for the slow performance and battery sapping, unfortunately no different :-(
Location service
Martikn said:
Hello I posted this in another thread:
... SPB mobile shell: Settings -> System -> Location Settings and there is Location service
... at 23:00 (24 hours after full charge) battery 21%, at 6:00 battery 16% (several times alarm - G-alarm) and I charge phone.
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What does this mean? Your battery lasts longer with this setting off?
I can confirm after 3 days, Dutty ROM Holly Grail R6 WWE TP drastic improvent battery life, but i think, it is not only because he back from 2.18 on 2.16 base ROM, have here some Duttys wizard make... However,device now "can live" 2 - 2,5 days with normal using.
For other people who have problem with high battery draining, maybe one very usefull app, author is member xda developers forum:
Battery Guard v0.0.1.3
Regards
My battery life is longer on 6.5 than when on 6.1 (stock roms) and I only noticed that I Had substantial battery drain when I had the camera still running in the taskbar in the top right... that rinsed my battery down in about 2hrs to zero.
Having recently bought and TD2, i really am getting a bit conserned about the battery life ....
Like it's awfull either that or it's just my phone thats gone the way of the dodo.
Can you please share your battery lifespan estimated ?
I bought device a week ago. Battery lasts up to 48 hours if I do not use it too much. If I do, or after several calls battery drains for 24 hours. I checked the settings. It is set to turn off device if not used after 1 minute. I have windows mobile 6.5 original rom.
I voted 72hours. screen off all the time when is not used. Win 6.5 dutty rom. about 20min call /day , 3g always off when not needed. Wifi about 15m / day.
I make a couple of calls on most days, send a few texts. my 3G is generally always on, I use the game/internet for about 15mins when on the bus. My battery lasts about 24hrs :-(
Mine will last a few days when not used much, but when I do use it, I use it.. haha so batter gets to less than 24h
original wm 6.1 rom; data connection off; 30min call/day; 40 sms/day. Screen off when not used: 72h battery life
Same as Psinok
i voted 48 but i believe it can be longer...
when i use regular phone uses (~1hour talking ~5-10 sms ~30min internet per day) battery drains about 20-30% for 24 hours
but if browse with wifi for long time if i use gps for couple hours or make long calls for hour or so it can take 30% at one time so its only depends on usage...
I really find it hard to understand why you guys get so fired up about battery issues!
All these guesstimates have little real world value other than to give some idea of what usage someone else, using their phone the way they do (whatever that may be), gets, in their subjective opinion.
Someone gets this, someone gets that and someone else gets the other. What difference does it make?
The only single usable value would be a phone life (given the ROM, battery age and charging procedures used) from full charge and left on without use until it turns off.
I did extensive tests along these lines with a couple of models of nokia phones a few years back, when the same disquiet about battery life surfaced then.
At the end of the day the main thing you can do to maximise battery life is charge it correctly. And then when you use, it once it's drained, it's drained!
So you charge it again. What you get is what you get. That's it!
If you want to see a huge difference then turn off manilla for a while (for those who are using it).
It's too hard to say exactly, but my battery life was utterly shocking in the first 3 to 4 weeks of owning it. Now, I get much better life.
It all depends...on your ROM
Same usage gives me 12h or 48h...
Some roms are very power hungry, I'm yet to figure out what causes that.
EnergyROM looks great, fast and nice colors but I only get 12h.
Same usage on Dutty's rom gives me 36-48h
Have used a lot of different ROMs but the battery life is usually pretty much the same. 3G always on. I talk in the phone for one hour a day. Sends 20-30 textmessages a day. Dataconnection always on (sync to exchange mail, facebook). My TD2 can easily go for 72 hours.....
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Have used a lot of different ROMs but the battery life is usually pretty much the same. 3G always on. I talk in the phone for one hour a day. Sends 20-30 textmessages a day. Dataconnection always on (sync to exchange mail, facebook). My TD2 can easily go for 72 hours.....
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Do you mind telling us what ROM you are using?
WM 6.5 Stock ROM
I recently installed HTC WM 6.5 Stock ROM on my Diamond2 and -on the average- a normal day consumes aroung 40 % - 50 % of the battery: couple phone call, several SMS, few minutes of WiFi use.
The battery lasted a little bit longer with WM 6.1 Stock ROM (shipped with the device).
GSM on Work, 3G on other time.
Data Connection avg ~30 mins a day
Music 2 Hrs
some games. (solitare...only)
Little to none calls
few SMSes
Batt: 100 -> 25% within 24hrs.
ROM: TESS PrideIV
Radio: Stock 4.49.25.17