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FAXING problem

OK, I have the new KSE True fax its on my XDAII,
(rom 1.72.00wwe, date 03/15/04, radio 1.17.00, protocol 1337.28, ext rom 1.72.181)
I have spoken to the software company, KSE TrueFax, they say its an o2 fault, (latest version supplied for O2 XDA and alike) and O2 say speak to the software company.
The fax when used switches off the mobile then initiates the modem then dials, then says no carrier detected? and switches off.
Yes I have fax enabled, Yes I have a fax number, I also have a Data number which all worked at the touch of a button on my 9210i and still does.
Can anyone help me, my hair is slowly disappearing in lumps!
Cheers
Trevor

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my fax workes fine, Im currently in Amsterdam on there network and all is good

Faxing problem
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Well thanks Mario, its nice to know your fax is working fine!
Trev :shock:

Are there any com port settings that need to be changed

Hey
I have exactly the same problem as you and I started asking about it in another thread on here. However it died when the agreed solution was to ensure that fax was enabled on my service by calling up O2. I havent done this yet because im in the process of switching to Orange.
On the other hand you have definitely done this step already since you have a fax/data number and I assume this number is entered in TrueFax settings. Despite this, you still get the same error message as I do which is puzzling and worrying since some people kindly mention they have no problems!
The TrueFax website isnt much help either saying that "no carrier detected" is a very general message that could mean a lot of things, some listed can easily be elminated. One interesting point is how you enter the number to send the fax? Do you just enter 012345678901 or +4412345678901 or +++4412345678901. The help pages seem to indicate that the ++ or +++ and country code is something to check. I had a mess about with different combinations and it didnt work for me, however I probably dont have fax enabled on my service, which ill try to fix when im on Orange, hehe.
Please could anyone find the cause/solution to this problem or offer any fuurther suggestions?
Ash

Faxing problem
Well, after much emailing to KSE, some of the problem is solved.
1, the software switches of the mobile because...........that's the way its designed as its not integrated into the hardware like theNokia 9210i.
This problem will remain untill Mr Gates (Microsoft) allows software houses to fully integrate his and their software into PDA's.
well that's what they tell me anyway.
2, no carrier detected...............several reasons given for this.
a, no fax number
b, no fax number assigned to sim
c, no fax number activated by service provider
d, no data number
e, no data number assigned to sim
f, no data number activated by service provider
Notice that also the latest version of Truefax must have the latest ROM and Extended Rom KSE say.
I have all of this and still nowt!
Returning to Nokia is getting closer....
TREV

Faxing Problem
OK, OK
It now appears the latest software from KSE does not work on XDAII with the latest ROM versions it only works on the XDAIIs.
Does anyone out there have a working program on an XDAII with latest ROM version and of course Ext ROM?
Are you or have you had problems running latest KSE Fax software?
What software are you running does it work ?
Does anyone have an older working copy of KSE Truefax for XDAII ?
Can anyone send me a copy which works ?
[email protected]
Cheers
TJ

Fax
I am runnig an XDAII with the latest ROM and the extra bundle that I picked up from this Site.
When dialing a fax number I include + and the area code and thats it !
I made no changes to the units settings bar a soft reset

Re: Faxing Problem
ukmctc said:
OK, OK
Does anyone have an older working copy of KSE Truefax for XDAII ?
Can anyone send me a copy which works ?
TJ
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KSE True Fax 2.06 :?: :?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11739

I had the version listed above working on my XDAII before latest ROM upgrade.
After latest upgrade with latest version, it worked straight away after hard reset. Haven't changed any settings at all.
Got it on my MDAIII as well and works fine on that too.

Well the sagacontinues.
NO I don't have a working fax and have tried 2.06 too, the only thing that happened was the first fax it tried to send it asked for the first time what modem I would be using, then did the usual...................NO CARRIER DETECTED!
Yep I have been onto o2 and the usual YES its all on!
I have discovered though O2 have a massive problem at the mo, going back some 6 weeks, their system has packed up and things are not going well with the new installed system.........people are being billed for calls not made! and some are not being billed at all, so those of you on o2 keep an eye on bills etc;
Ah well, suppose its back to my faxing problem....thinking of changing to Vodaphone network.

Fixed It!
Hey
Well I must reccommend to ukmctc to do it and make the switch. I have just changed from O2 to Orange and not only does everything such as GPRS, WAP, MMS all work as before (I had to input new settings), faxing now works without a problem.
On O2 I simply could not get faxing to work and always got 'no carrier detected'. It made me wonder if the people saying it work ed for them were real or not.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
One thing I have ensured I do, and I dont know if it makes a difference is to prefix all numbers in TrueFax with +44 and omit the first 0, including the space where you input your own fax number. This means correcting the provided number when you're using the built-in contacts list to select a number too.
Good luck to everyone thats still having problems, maybe switching network is the solution! :idea: If anyone wants to grill me about the settings I use, please ask away. I am using KSE TrueFax 2.08 as supplied in O2's appsuite.
Ash

Faxing Problem resolved!
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Yes resolved it was easy to do!, you won't believe how easy......
Put my sim back into my Nokia 9210i and it works perfectly, I can now send receive faxes while receiving or making a voice call or surfing the net.
I'm so happy I could..sit!
Looks like the new toy isn't as good as the old one.

Faxing with Jasjar , it's possible?

Hy, I'm a new owner of a nice MdaPro/Jasjar, and for me is very important to send a fax to my customer or receiving a fax. It is possible with my young favourite.

Would you have a net connection?
V

vijay555 said:
Would you have a net connection?
Yes, but I want to send this fax with GPRS connectipon or with GSM.
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Dear .
U hv to use KSE True Fax 2.09(d/l from FTP) and your SIM shd have the Data/Fax service activated from yr service provider...

Hi,
can you tell me how you did it. The TrueFax is ver. 2.09 is not recognizing the modem.
If you succeeded you let it running, plz. describe the procedure in detail.
thanx.

KSE's website explicitly stated that it doesn't support HTC Universal
HTC-Universal device without fax software - The already available "Universal" devices manufactured by HTC are not equipped with a fax software. That means, when you purchase one of these Pocket PC Phones, such as MDA Pro, XDA expert, VPA 4, etc. no version of our software KSE Truefax is included. Furthermore no version of our software is available for these devices. Previous versions of Truefax are not compatible with this device type. If you need a fax software please contact your respective net provider.
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I haven't tried this, but maybe you can give it a go:
MFaxCE -- Don't know if it's WM5 compatible.
http://www.samtechnc.com/eng/introduction/mfax_intro.htm

Anyway I can use Winfax Pro 10 installed on my Windows XP computer to use the Jasjar as a fax modem so that I can fax from my pc connected to the Jasjar via bluetooth. I know I can do this with my Nokia 6600. I tried the same with the Jasjar but it appears that the Winfax Pro does not recognize the Jasjar as a fax modem. Maybe I am doing something wrong or maybe simply that the Jasjar modem is not fax compatible. Any view would be appreciated.
Kind Regards

I remember someone in the BA section posting a working KSE cab file for the BA with WM5.
Just don't have time to find it right now.

I have a big dilema...will it ever be possible to use fax on my qtek 9000? I have all the required fax services on my SIM and software on my phone (TrueFax 2.09), but it still not working to send or receive fax from my device...
And about the fax modem...is this an aditional software, or what because my phone is not detecting any fax modem?

We are the developer of MFaxCE
We are the developer of MFaxCE. Actually, we have already ported our MFaxCE to WM5.0 successfully, but we found that HTC have changed a lot or haven't open the port for fax on WM5.0 device, we still fail to send/receive fax on WM5.0 right now.
However we are working with some manufacturer who is willing to modify their driver to make our MFaxCE capable of fax on their WM5.0 device. And we are also looking forward that HTC can do some modification or disclose some information to us, so that we can make MFaxCE compatiable with all the HTC WM5 device.
We will keep you posted about any news in the future!

@samtech
Sounds great, i really miss Faxing on the Universal.
However, I seriuosly doubt that HTC vill release any info on the internal's of their device. They will more likely give you a datasheet on an upcoming device, and perhaps give you some limited access.
It's very clear that the whole WmMobile business market is centeret on one thing, pushing new devices out the door.
Rom Updates that actually makes our devices work the way they are marketed, are never released......just forget it!
And why should they, we are stupid enoughf to buy the new devices, hoping that it will solve our problems.
Luckily we have some brilliant guys working on the linux Port for the BA, Universal and other devices ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35972 )
Doo feel free to join or provide any info you might posses to the community, the more the merrier
On the negative side, it dossent excatly put food on the table, but hopefully it will help us by providing the tools we need to help us do other things that will, without having to constantly monitoring this board to get our devices working within resanoble boundries.

bosjo said:
Sounds great, i really miss Faxing on the Universal.
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AFAIK Universal does not support V2.0, which will
make it a PITA to support. I don't know if it a hardware
limitation or a phone radio ROM (mis)feature.
Edit:
sorry, it was mgetty+sendfax that does not support v1,
but hylafax does.
http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page

Fax for O2 XDA Exec

Is any one know working FAX program on Windows Mobile 5 for O2 XDA Exec?
Please let me know if there working version.
I have already tried Truefax and mfax186.
Thank you

DmitryDD said:
Is any one know working FAX program on Windows Mobile 5 for O2 XDA Exec?
Please let me know if there working version.
I have already tried Truefax and mfax186.
Thank you
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You're out of luck.
Qualcomm, the maker of 3G chips as used in UMTS and EVDO/1xRTT doesn't support circuit-switch data connections (where you dial a number). This means NO gadget that uses their chip's can use fax or data software.
:roll:

Thank you!
Do you know in which PDA can I use both phone and fax?

In phone settings "Band" you have to choose "GSM" to make CSD connections work. Perhaps fax connections will also be allowed then.

I have already got settled "GSM" and still fax does not work

DmitryDD said:
I have already got settled "GSM" and still fax does not work
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Did anybody succeed in sending fax through Jasjar? I regularly send faxes through Nokia Communicator 9500. My Data Fax service is enabled by my service provider. Will I be able to send faxes through Jasjar. Please narrate your actual ecperiences.

Southern_Man said:
Qualcomm, the maker of 3G chips as used in UMTS and EVDO/1xRTT doesn't support circuit-switch data connections (where you dial a number). This means NO gadget that uses their chip's can use fax or data software.
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Can you pl elaborate? Does Jasjar use Qualcomm chips? Will faxing be possible on Jasjar if Data and Fax facility is enabled by my cell provider? Can I not GSM for faxes? Sorry for naive Q but what is UMTS? Presently I am regularly sending faxes from my Nokia 9500. Looking for a change.

Try www.efax.com send and recive fax's via email or there web site. dont do much faxing but been using this for years.
Cheers
Dean

manu407 said:
Southern_Man said:
Qualcomm, the maker of 3G chips as used in UMTS and EVDO/1xRTT doesn't support circuit-switch data connections (where you dial a number). This means NO gadget that uses their chip's can use fax or data software.
:roll:
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Can you pl elaborate? Does Jasjar use Qualcomm chips? Will faxing be possible on Jasjar if Data and Fax facility is enabled by my cell provider? Can I not GSM for faxes? Sorry for naive Q but what is UMTS? Presently I am regularly sending faxes from my Nokia 9500. Looking for a change.
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Hi Manu,
As of now it is not possible to send the fax from Universal...but one can send the faxes from other PPC phones such as 2s/2i/XDA 2/o2 mini.
This is due to the differrences in the Port Configurations.
JASJAR Does use the Qualcomm Chip..

Fax and Fax Modem setings

I have a big dillema...i tried more fax soft on my qtek 9000(Universal) WM5. I activated the fax service on my phone, but the big problem is that its not detecting the modem. Is there an additional program for the modem so that i can install it on my phone, or what? Is there someone else who s facing this problem, who tried to install and use the fax on this kind of phone? I understand from other posts that there is a solution for this problem, but no one gives any details...can anyone help me with this?

Hi
Which software are you using for you Qtek 9000.
They is no known software for faxes for WM5.
If you have one work please share it with us.
Thank You
Gigino

Tethering (PPC to PPC)?

Is it possible to tether my 3G connection from my 8525 to my Universal? This would help me because I live in the US where the 3G doesnt work for the Universal.

Anyone is it possible?

Should be possible with bluetooth. I've done it with my Hermes and a PocketLoox720
The exact process involved depends upon if you are running the original early version of WM5, or a later AKU WM5 or WM6 Rom

andyf1 said:
Should be possible with bluetooth. I've done it with my Hermes and a PocketLoox720
The exact process involved depends upon if you are running the original early version of WM5, or a later AKU WM5 or WM6 Rom
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I think the Universal has an old ROM but for the Hermes if I use the original ROM from Cingular I am not sure? Thanks for th info though I will post when I get my Universal later this week. Thanx.