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Sorry, mates, that may be a rather silly question, but I couldn't find anything...
On my NOKIA I always had the location / area in my display. Jow do I get my XDA II to do that? Is there any setting or key combination that would enable it?

Yes,there is,but it is not functional how on Nokia phones because you will contiunue to receive messages on xda with your cell-location.
To enable Cell-location or other services on your operator go to:
Start-Settigns-Phone-More,Enable Broadcast channel,Settings-New,Channel number 050.
Enjoy.
Regards

Hehe, very funny, mate. Yep I do receive a notification every 30 or so seconds... Best part is that is tells me first my suburb, next time the suburb east, then mine again and then the one south :shock: while I just sitting here at my desk :lol:
OK, after the good laughter - is there not something as I used to have it on my mobile phone :?:

unapproachable2kx said:
Yes,there is,but it is not functional how on Nokia phones because you will contiunue to receive messages on xda with your cell-location.
To enable Cell-location or other services on your operator go to:
Start-Settigns-Phone-More,Enable Broadcast channel,Settings-New,Channel number 050.
Enjoy.
Regards
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Maybe this doesnt work with O2 in the UK. I recieve no information.
Is there a list of the channel numbers and their functions?

normally it is channel 50, but upto know it will provide too many messages instead of traditional bar view.

test tapi on your device

A lot of people trying to write programs that can transfer data over a phone call seem to end up giving up because they think their device is not capeable of it. I put this little app together to make it possible to demonstrate the data transfer on ppc phones. If this works on your device then you can implement similar functionality.
download bellow:
http://odeean.veritel.com.au/ORDTapiUser/myTapiUser.exe
It will only work if the program is running on both the calling and answering ppc at the same time.
Instructions:
0)Make sure the phones on your ppc's are turned on.
1)copy the exe to both devices.
2)run the exe on both devices.
3)press "startup" on both devices.
4)(both devices) a series of dialogs will pop up, if you see one labeled "celular line" press yes. If you know your phone uses a line called something else press yes to that instead. If you press no to everything the program will try to get the correct line, but may fail. If you want to choose again restart the program.
5)on the calling device put a phone number in the edit box at the top. I am no expert on numbers around the world so I have just let whatever you put there go straight in. If the number fails its got nothing to do with this program.
6)on the calling device press "dial". wait until it says connected.
7)on the answering device the incoming call will be shown. If a caller id is available it will be displayed. The ppc inbuilt phone is not stopped by this app so you will not be able to press the answer button. Instead wait (normally the default is 3 rings) and my program will answer the call itself.
8)two way communication is now posible. Data sent from the "data to send" edit box on one ppc will be displayed on the "received data" window on the other ppc. As this is a simple program the display will just show the last 25 digits to keep the latest info in the window.
9)when done press "hangup" on one of the ppc's
The data is not just sent in a direct way. It gets broken up into packets and they are timed as they are transmitted along with some error checking. The timing is rather generous so it slows the transmition down a bit, that along with all the actions being displayed to the user.
This works well between my xda mini and xda I. It dose not work on windows mobile 2005. Because of the expense involved in phone calls it is dificult to debug. If any messages do pop up it would be nice if you could post the number on the dialog and a description of what was going on. This program cost me $150 in phone expence, so enjoy.
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could you post the code , please ?
i have to make an application that need to receive file from server with data call.
(excuse my english)
best regards

I will not post the entire code, this is to let you know if it is worth the effort trying. Almost everything contained within this program that is related to tapi can be seen in posts already on this board. If you have a specific question I would be glad to post code relating to it.
When you say you need to retreive a file from a server, you should know that tapi data calls do not go through the mechanism that ras or sockets use to let the operating system get a ip and port for communication. Your program is responsible directly for the communication. It would be terrific if you could write code to replace the missing incoming ras components from pocket pc. I have not so I could not show any code for that.
If the server you want to connect to is not a pocket pc based device, ie it is a normal pc, then tapi is not the best solution for you. I suggest using sockets, its designed for that kind of thing. ppc to ppc tapi data calling is like a last resort kind of programming. It is forced on us because either the phone networks don't give us usefull ip's for sockets or the api's are not fully implemented in ras. Alternately you could look into using the compact framework 2.0 and c#, I think I read somewhere that incoming ras would be included there.

just one question...your application uses TAPI, isn't it?so TAPI is supported by mostly different mobile device?Am I right?
thanx

ppc 2000 supports tapi outbound only.
ppc 2002, wm2003, wm2005 all support tapi inwards and out.
The hardware can vary, I only have the devices listed in my sig. For all of those (that are phones) tapi data, in/out is fully functional. If you are using a phone card (ie one that plugs into the expansion port) its capeabilities may be different. Often those only support gprs (not tapi). If you have anything with XDA in the name its OK.

Thank you for your advise but I have a specific problem using HTC
Wizard. I need to connect a server using a V110 modem in order to create
data link between a PDA and this server. I developed a code (VB .net)
for PDA and independent cellular phone using standard AT commands. I
tried to develop a similar approach with HTC Wizard but it seems it is
not possible to send AT commands to the modem (cellular line). To
develop your code you should have solved this problem using TAPI. Could
you explain me how to initiate the cellular line so that I could create
a V110 link.
Thx

I understand more clearly what you want to do now. Unfortunately I have never attempted to use at commands. You said I should have solved this problem in my app, but the point of using tapi is to not have to deal with at commands. Tapi is good for sending data, its my "guess" that whatever the commands you want to send could be generated by tapi to look like whats expected on the other end (assuming the typs of transmitted data match. eg dose the size of one at command correspond to >= the size of one char?).
I think that you would not be able to communicate directly with the modem with at commands until you have stopped tapi/ril from using the port. Again, I have not done this. Search this board to find how to do that. Once you have, try your origional code again. I doubt your normal phone functionality would work after that.
Sorry I could not be of more real help.

I dont have PPC but I do have smartphone instead..
Does the program require CSD line or can use normal GSM? Can you create one similar program that can be used in Samartphone wm5?

It uses normal gsm, ie a voice call. The underlying class in my program can probably work on smartphones, but I do not have one. To be honest I think smartphones are dying. Normal ppc phones are the same size now so to put too much effort into smarphones seems less attractive.

My PPC wm5 cannot dial, the other PPC show CONNECT but...
I was using HP Ipaq and Dopod PPC, The HP Ipaq when dialed it show dial number but nothing dialed to other party. Latter Dialed from Dopod It was shown CONNECT but no connection is establish to other party...
Could you give me the reason. If I am using WM5 is the case, what OS that you are using?
How about using CSD line instead could it possible running properly? Do I need to install certificate and signing the application(exe) as to make the program running in WM5, is what happen to smartphone certain API under privilage zone.

It is my mistake the MyTapUser.exe find in both HP and Dopod
I am sorry since I just bought the SIM card and the provider put some procedure before I can use the line. After consulted the shoper, The shoper activated it for me. Walla! I tested again it worked fine...thanks to you...master!

Some networks can also cause problems. I use vodafone and its 100% ok but I put an optus prepaid in and nothing happened at all. If I understand correctly the network should only be interested in the bearer mode. I use LINEBEARERMODE_VOICE - the same as a voice call so it should be ok. When experimenting with that sim, they will not do anything with a call that contains a LINEMEDIAMODE_DATAMODEM in the call params. Very strange considering they have no use for knowing this.
I am pleased it worked for you. This is realy very old and I will be removing it from my site soon when my new stuff comes out. Even if the myTapiUser seems to work, remember that it is not checking the contents of the transmition. Bad weather for example could cause information to be missed. There are probably problems receiving on the HP that you may not have noticed. Is it the same HP made by quanta? If the HP can receive data after answering an incoming call I would love to know about it. Can you confirm this?

This is my report..
I am using prepaid no csd line.
Device Info
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1.HP iPAQ TI OMAP1510 - 2003 PPC(memory-57.04MB)
2.DOPOD PXA270-520MHZ WM5(5.1.1..1700)(memory-50.19MB)
HP Dialed Dopod
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- HP received data from DOPOD immediately after data was sent.
- DOPOD received data from HP after next sequence of data transmit from HP(sometime error 0052 occur)
DOPOD Dialed HP
============
- HP received immediately data from DOPOD
- DOPOD receiving data from HP after the next sequence of data transmitting.
- error trigger 0052(assembly packet...) in DOPOD
data send perfect 100% correct...
May I know whether, If this method can be used sending digital stream of data, such as, compress voice or image?

Yes it can. I have not done voice because the flow of the transfer would be very different from what I want. If you want to see voice transfer in action over data calls google cryptophone.
In about 15 hours I will be releasing my program. Come back then to see what it can really do. I need to make a page for it on my site and get screen captures etc. Its 2am here so I can't do it now.

incoming call how to get connectted?
I can dial to the receiving phone. My receiving phone use ril to detect the incoming call. After the detection, I can press the green button to answer. My problems is why everytime I answered the call it failed.
I did like below procedure, when ril detect the incoming signal
-lineOpen
-lineAnswer
-lineGetID
Is it the correct way to answer the call? Why 'lineOpen' produce error result?
Can You give the correct way to answer the incoming call for modem like communication.
Thank in advance,

As far as ril goes I know little. You should have opened the line before the call was offering, this includes negotiating the version of tapi to use then finding the correct line then using lineopen. All this has been covered in other threads. The values returned from the api calls are self explanitory so checking them is useful.
The use of linegetid is less straight forward but again it has also been covered in other threads. The thing to remember is that after you use lineanswer to answer an offering call, do not imediately call linegetid. You need to wait for the connected line state. Also check the dwCallbackInstance when looking at line states because as I found with the atom, you need to be sure the results are relevant to your program.
I know that what you really would like is some code but its too complicated to sumarize in a few lines. The best thing to do is start from the beginning ( lineInitializeEx ) and work to the end result ( LineGetID ) checking your errors along the way. You will need another thread to do the checking of the state of the line, and it will have to be properly synchronized if you don't want unexplained crashes. If your program is answering the call, don't touch the phone buttons. When you answer the call cprog.exe owns it and you will not be able to access it. Also is there a reason you are mixing ril with tapi? I would guess it complicates the issue, why not just use tapi or just use ril?

Ril or TAPI
Yes! You are right, either one can be used. I am a little bit confused about the two. Just remember I am new to this kind of development. After sometime I am testing the use of RIL and TAPI both can give the same answer, but better use TAPI from the beginning. And I have to kill the cprog.exe and RegisterHotKey for green button first.
I want to ask you something. Why after several attempt of LINEDEVSTATE_RINGING event, there is no LINECALLSTATE_OFFERING trigger, as this event use to lineAnswer? And what should I do when the LINEDEVSTATE_RINGING event trigger?
Thank in advance

Sorry, I may have been a bit loose with the terminology. Its a while since I coded that part - Line states, line messages I mean. LINECALLSTATE_OFFERING is obtaine this way....
First off, use the event notification method, not the callback window. Wait for the event using WaitForSingleObject then Use lineGetMessage to get a LINEMESSAGE. If the dwMessageID of the LINEMESSAGE is LINE_CALLSTATE then check what call state it is (eg is dwParam1 equal to LINECALLSTATE_OFFERING etc). You can then take action depending on what you want to do, like answer when offering.
I never see LINEDEVSTATE_RINGING because it is not needed by my app because the line messages suffice. Killing cprog.exe on a users device before its neccesary could lead to missed calls, also when it is not running the caller just hears the ringing tone so it seems like they are being ignored. I have also found that the os restarts it again anyway after a while (actually it seems like it dose this after the device has powered down and when a new call comes in).

What is the different when using event and callback function
What I understood that we can use either event or callback function to gain message from TAPI. I am using the callback function to get the LINECALLSTATE_OFFERING, which is different than you, where you are possibly using the Event method (lpLineInitializeExParams->dwOptions = LINEINITIALIZEEXOPTION_USEEVENT - I think you are using this one!).
I still cannot get the status of LINECALLSTAE_OFFERING. Some of the events caught are LINEDEVSTATE_CLOSE and LINEDEVSTATE_OPEN. What is the meaning of LINEDEVSTATE_OPEN stated in the MSDN line is open by other application, does it means that cprog.exe is conqured the line?

The reason I said to use the event method is that I have only done this with it. I could not give any advice about the call back method (although i guess it should give the same results), if you can get it to work then its fine. How are you getting LINEDEVSTATE_CLOSE & LINEDEVSTATE_OPEN? LINEDEVSTATE_XXXXX have nothing to do with LINECALLSTATE_OFFERING. Are you checking for a LINE_CALLSTATE in your call back? I think in the call back method this should be sent to your program.
ie
case:LINE_CALLSTATE;
{
if(dwParam1==LINECALLSTATE_OFFERING)
{
//it is offering
}
}
break;
All LINEDEVSTATE_OPEN is telling you is that cprog is also using the phone to wait for calls (normally cellular line).
If LINE_CALLSTATE it means a call is comming and you can find out about it (eg if its offering). cprog.exe dose not do anything to the call unless the user presses a button or taps on the notification. It dose nothing to the line, cprog will be aware of the same messages that you are and if you set up tapi to use data on a line then unfortunately cprog will also ring when data calls come but other than that there are no issues with it to worry about. If you need proof of this just donwload the current version of GSMbeam and in the settings change the spelling of cprog. When a data call comes in you will see GSMbeam monitoring it then the cprog notification will come up over that monitoring the same call. The program that answers the call first is the one that owns it, until then its not altered.

Adding number to existing contact ?

When you take a call from a number you dont have but want to add it, is there anyway to add it to an existing contact rather than have to create a new one and then copy paste ?
I have had more than one person who has phoned me from work or home and I have their mobile number so I then wanted to add this other number to their contact. The only way I can seem to do it is to copy the number when adding to contacts. You can only press ok then so it creates an unknown contact. Then you have to go into the persons details and paste the number and then delete the unknown number.
There must be a way to add a number to an existing contact right ?

knowsleyroader said:
There must be a way to add a number to an existing contact right ?
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Be nice to have the good old Nokia "Add to Contact" too, instead of just the "Save" that we have...
You can do it if you tap+hold, then select the "Send Text Message" and copy it from the Message Editor's To: line with another click+hold. When you close the message it not saved it if it's empty, so you don't have to delete it from drafts. Paste into the existing contact and voila... There you are, task done, but still thinking what a faff and why isn't there a "Save to Contact" context menu item...
Dox.

Quite a ridiculous oversight. Its not the end of the world, but not what you would expect from this kind of phone.
Just one good reason for someone with a poxy phone to laugh at you.
" You can stream online radio and connect to your home network, but you cant copy a number into an existing contact ? " ROFLMAO !

Yes, that and having to explain that they need to SMS the details to you rather than sending the contacts business card over SMS as your wizzbang all singing all dancing super phone can't handle SMS business cards...
Out of interest, is the Add to Contact issue the same on the Universal?
Dox

Dox said:
Out of interest, is the Add to Contact issue the same on the Universal?
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i guess this issue conerns overall Windows Mobile platform. let's tell the truth - devices such as wizard or universal are not the best as *phones*. i'd say, that most of 'classic' mobiles are far better in various terms over windows mobile based devices (i.e. cell broadcast handling, profile switching, add to contact issue, etc..). basically there's still lot of work to do for microsoft engineers in that matter. however as PDA it's one of the best if not the best of all platforms right now. so using pda+phone combined devices is always some kind of compromise - there are really stunning pda features but still some issues as a phone as well. personally, i'm quite happy of using such combination and i can handle some of these compromises..

Radio streaming
How do you stream radio then ?
What channels can you get ?
Sorry it's a bit off topic. :?

Re: Radio streaming
davebo said:
How do you stream radio then ?
What channels can you get ?
Sorry it's a bit off topic. :?
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Get Resco Radio or there are some websites you can click on links to streaming broadcasts although that can sometimes be a bit more problematic and fiddley. Redco works gr8 though.
Out of interest is there any easy way to import loads if not all availabe online radio into Resco Radio as its a joy to use but maybe a bit limited in stations considering whats out there.

???change What Other See On Caller Id

OK BEFORE THIS GETS MOVED MODS PLEASE LEAVE THIS HERE FOR A BIT THE PEOPLE IN WIZARD AND HERMES SECTIONS HAVE ALOT OF KNOWLEDGE thats why i put it here instead of in general
with that being said How Do You Change what displayes on your caller id i have cingular(i manage 2 wireless stores at this time ny so what i say is just my opinon i sell everthing but verizon not trying to slander)
back to topic cingular tells me they can make it unknown and still see my number but most cingular customer reps are stupid its funny that we know more then them lol) i want it to say Mike is there any way to do this maybe call verizon i was thinking cause i believe all numbers go through the verizon swithT
if anyone knows any hack or trick pm me or post here
thanks
sorry mods for double post and wrong section leave here for a bit till it gets answered thanks

no there is no way to do it. the only possible way would be for you to infect the switchboard with a virus that when it sees your imei or esn depending on your gsm/cdma status talking to a cell tower it broadcasts the caller id information from a preprogrammed selection that you put in the code of the virus. but like i said. unless you wanna goto jail for infecting a switchboard like that then my answer is still no.

insanenyc said:
OK BEFORE THIS GETS MOVED MODS PLEASE LEAVE THIS HERE FOR A BIT THE PEOPLE IN WIZARD AND HERMES SECTIONS HAVE ALOT OF KNOWLEDGE thats why i put it here instead of in general
with that being said How Do You Change what displayes on your caller id i have cingular(i manage 2 wireless stores at this time ny so what i say is just my opinon i sell everthing but verizon not trying to slander)
back to topic cingular tells me they can make it unknown and still see my number but most cingular customer reps are stupid its funny that we know more then them lol) i want it to say Mike is there any way to do this maybe call verizon i was thinking cause i believe all numbers go through the verizon swithT
if anyone knows any hack or trick pm me or post here
thanks
sorry mods for double post and wrong section leave here for a bit till it gets answered thanks
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Don't quote me on this but I think cingular has a feature now that allows you to prevent your name from showing only. It's called "Calling name block" and it is a free service. What actually shows is the number and "wireless caller". Otherwise....(I have a 8525) and I can go to phone options to select or deselect to BLOCK my caller ID. This will block everything. I hope this answers your questions.

|oLo| said:
Don't quote me on this but I think cingular has a feature now that allows you to prevent your name from showing only. It's called "Calling name block" and it is a free service. What actually shows is the number and "wireless caller". Otherwise....(I have a 8525) and I can go to phone options to select or deselect to BLOCK my caller ID. This will block everything. I hope this answers your questions.
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Also to block your outgoing Caller ID info dial #31# before the number and it will show unavailable. I put my most address book entries this way.

... Or become a POP or telco provider, a little like Skype has done - it'll show SMSes which you send from your skype client as being sent from your Skype profile name when the recipient views them. Which is pretty funky.
Of course, I immediately tried to change my skype name to "Your Mum", because I'm infantile like that but unfortunately it didn't change it. Still pretty cool, though.

Per call/contact caller ID settings

Is there a way, other than adding *31# infront of the stored number, to enable caller ID per contact in my 'people' tab?
My number is blocked by default (and I'd like to keep it that way for a variety of reasons) but would like to enable the ID when calling my wife and select other people. The workaround so far has been to add the code above infront of the number but then it seems SMS messages are not going thru which is less than ideal (I could add a separate number entry for messages I guess, but still).
Having looked at the Phone settings it seems I'm able to select "Contacts only" which in my mind (as a dev) means someone has already written a app (or simply extended the current Contact app) to allow for this on a per-contact basis.
Any ideas?

You can try this MagiCall
http://www.mobiion.com/

I was also looking for this.
The MagiCall features don't mention the option to set caller id per contact.
@emigrating: Did you fix it another way?
Anyone else knows a good solution?

+1 same interrest same issue.
But as time goes on you can use the following workaround: or let's say this is the way I manage it......
If you use the traditional SMS Mode and hit reply sms goes through.
This doesn't work as mentioned in Konversation Mode.
It's uncomfortable because the konversation mode is the better client...but the only way you can send sms to someone stored as *31# contact.
It seems as if the konversation mode always refers to the number stored in your contact, whereas the traditional mode refers to the number which comes with the sms.
I hope someone can fix this, or has a better workaround, I'll be interested to!!!

SWINXNL said:
I was also looking for this.
The MagiCall features don't mention the option to set caller id per contact.
@emigrating: Did you fix it another way?
Anyone else knows a good solution?
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use MagiCall. Set up a rule: for your wife's phone #, prepend *31#, then dial.
I use it for long distance calls. For all phone # not in my home area code, prepend 1511 (chaper long distance call provider), then dial. A small problem with this: need to disable this rule when roaming in another country.
Give it a try, it is good.

I've downloaded the trial version and set up a rule for Outlook categories, just to test. Change the dialed number to #31#{phone}. When I call someone in the particular category, the MagiCall icon appears in the topbar and my device freezes....
No big problem, I restarted my device to try again.
The same thing happens. Again I take out the battery and restart the phone.
At that point the device became terrible slow somehow.
With a little patience I succeeded uninstalling the app.
Restarting again.
Fortunately, my phome is normal speed again.
Sorry, I'm not a big fan of MagiCall at this moment...
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Edit: Just trying again, because I can't find a real alternative.
The problem seems to occur when I choose Outlook Category as filter.
Just bad luck for me by choosing that option for my first try.
The program seems to respond on other conditions.
It could be my phone only, otherwise maybe I will contact Mobiion about this..
Edit2: The problem was known and was fixed in a newer version.
So it seems to work after all