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Is you XDA II camera still clear quality until now? I mean when you bought your XDA II means the camera is new and bright but now that your xda ii is old is your camera still in good quality? still bright? cuz i think mine become blur, i dont know why, i dont even dropped it yet. But i think it is only in my mind that it became blur, right??? HELP IS HIS TRUE??
Mine is still fine (6 months old)
Could it be your eyes got spoilt by all the fancy cameras with multi mega pixel quality that everyone seems to have?
Good heaven
Good Heaven. yours is 6 months but still the camera is still same as new?????? mine is 1 month, please post another that your camera is still ok... My device will be useless if no camera. I never drop it. Any one else???
help convince me plssssss
i never felt my cam was very good quality but it havent changed
and i dont really use it much
PLSSSSSSSS HELLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!
Just to confirm: I havent any decline in quality from my MDAII camera.
With VGA focus-free you cant expect the quality a lot low-cost digital cameras offer today . . .
It's OK for snapshots and to be honest this holiday I was suprised by the (relatively) good quality of the MP4 movies I captured.
my camera sucked from the first day i used it.
i NEVER used i since. quality is so bad - noone want's to have such pictures.
but judge yourself
regards ize|man
That one looks worse than mine, but of course lighting AND a steady hand do a lot!!!!
look..
i think that the camera will be good as digital cameras if there is a good light..
and try this to make it better..
go to camera..
and tab settings..then go to to tools..then adjest,,and options..and i think if u manged it will it'll be better..
and my i-mate (3 months old) and i dont see it changed or anything..
although i dropped it today very bad drop..and its fine..!
this is a picture i took
the details are absent and the bluer is bad
much like my old creative webcam which could be disconnected and used as a poor cam as well
have yet to see a cmos cam I liked quality wise
ofcause this is why real digital cams all use ccd and not cmos
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I think that picture quality is not so bad.
What really bothers me is that pixels seem not to be correctly "joint" (fitted?).
In other words, if you look at a poor quality picture, probably you will not see the subject defined and the picture will have "low-quality" everywhere; instead I have the feeling that qtek pictures could be easily improved just avoiding that sort of scattering and dithering between pixels which makes all blurred (just look at the picture attached before) and which is not related with resolution.
I hope someone can understand my opinion; it was a "matter of feeling", therefore hard to write in english (not being English of course :lol: )
I guess i was wrong, all of your xda's are older than mine and you even drop it ans still the camera never change. no one post that their cameras becomes weak or changed to bad. maybe your right, it is only my feelings. right?
i haven?t dropped it really well i did drop it down my shoe once while it was in the plastic case but i doubt that that would cause any damage
but i agree with the people who say the mp4 video clips look better of cause you don?t notice the imperfections of each frame as much in clips
I have a problem with the focus of the camera in my hermes (vodafone vpa compact III). When i put the focus pin in macro postition i can make sharp photos from objects in a distance of ~10cm. When the switch is in the non macro mode objects between 40cm and 2meters got sharp. Everything behind 2meters gets unsharp again. This is quite disturbing because nearly everything one photographs is more distant than 2 meters. In order to get rid of this problem my dealer swapped the phone, but unfortunately the new one had the same problem. My question now is do all phones show this effect.
To illustrate the problem i have attached a photo that was taken at the maximum resolution of 1600x1200 (on lower resolutions the unsharpness slowly disappeares). The image is a 620x280 subarea of this picture.
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I have a problem with the focus of the camera in my hermes (vodafone vpa compact III). When i put the focus pin in macro postition i can make sharp photos from objects in a distance of ~10cm. When the switch is in the non macro mode objects between 40cm and 2meters got sharp. Everything behind 2meters gets unsharp again. This is quite disturbing because nearly everything one photographs is more distant than 2 meters. In order to get rid of this problem my dealer swapped the phone, but unfortunately the new one had the same problem. My question now is do all phones show this effect.
To illustrate the problem i have attached a photo that was taken at the maximum resolution of 1600x1200 (on lower resolutions the unsharpness slowly disappeares). The image is a 620x280 subarea of this picture.
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I have not seen this reported and it is not normal. However it would seem an amazing coincidence if you were to get two phones with an identical problem. Did you actually see the dealer swap the phones!
From the photo the bus appears in focus at one end and out of focus at the other. Given the bus is quite some distance away (I assume, and it's not a zoomed in photo) then from that picture it looks more like left side in focus, right side out of focus. (I appreciate the objects on the right are further away)
Have you got other photos that have objects at varying distances but not with objects that are near on one side and further away on the other. i.e looking straight down the street or such like.
Also can you confirm there was no zoom used.
Mike
Have you cheked the settings? Maybe is on max resolution, but not the best quality.
Could you post the full image?
This link is for a picture that I took 4 days ago with my SVP M3100
I think is quite sharp.
http://www.karontes.plus.com/IMAGE_098.jpg
Try changing the quality from the camera settings..
hope this help
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here are some demo pictures all taken with the focus in non macro position:
http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/22895/2003124511431707207_rs.jpg
http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/23579/2001735976619502914_rs.jpg
http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/25358/2001779240544331593_rs.jpg
Did you actually see the dealer swap the phones
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The new one has a new IMEI so it definitely is a new one.
Have you got other photos that have objects at varying distances but not with objects that are near on one side and further away on the other. i.e looking straight down the street or such like
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I will make one tomorrow. Currently it is dark outside.
Also can you confirm there was no zoom used
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the picture was taken from a 1600x1200 foto the complete foto is linked above
Maybe is on max resolution, but not the best quality.
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Settings are ok. The picture with the beer bottle looks fine. The problem only occurs at larger distances.
mastermarv said:
here are some demo pictures all taken with the focus in non macro position:
http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/22895/2003124511431707207_rs.jpg
http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/23579/2001735976619502914_rs.jpg
http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/25358/2001779240544331593_rs.jpg
The new one has a new IMEI so it definitely is a new one.
I will make one tomorrow. Currently it is dark outside.
the picture was taken from a 1600x1200 foto the complete foto is linked above
Settings are ok. The picture with the beer bottle looks fine. The problem only occurs at larger distances.
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Ok will see your photo(s) tomorrow. Meantime, I'm just trying to decide if those are typical of the sort of pictures I get if there is some wobble on taking the photo. (The Hermes is sensitive to this) I use the centre D-Pad button to take the photo (AKA action button). I squeeze it in and keep it in until photo is taken (ie. not a push and release action but a push only till photo shows up).
As yet difficult to say. Your last picture looks fine, the 2nd pic looks out of focus all over. So lets see some more tomorrow as you say. You can drink that bottle of booze while you are waiting
Mike
yeah I think the focus problem is due to shaking. You got to hold the phone STEADY for quite a while when taking a picture
try taking a picture with the phone resting on a table or flat surface, it will probably look a lot better.
Shaking
in order to avoid shaking all of the following photos where taken with the phone standing on the ground. I used the 10sec timer to take the photos so i did not need to touch the camera when it took the photo. the beer-bottle fotos (no i'm not addicted to alcohol ) show that at objects that are too close / too far got unsharp.
The outdoor photo was also taken with the phone standing still usung the timer. It nicely illustrates why i'am not satisfied with the quality of pictures taken by the camera.
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/22620/2004425661515948516_rs.jpg
http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/24390/2004494897534520551_rs.jpg
http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/24453/2004407138677399856_rs.jpg
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in order to avoid shaking all of the following photos where taken with the phone standing on the ground........
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OK for comparison purposes:
Here are 3 shots at medium resolution.
1. With Macro on
2.
With Camera toggle half way between Macro and Infinity
3
With Macro toggle set to Infinity - correct setting
From this it is clear your camera is not stuck on Macro mode as pic 1 above shows everything is very blurred.
From pic 3 we can see that there is an even level of focus throughout the picture - nothing pin sharp and nothing very blurry - what you might expect of infinity focus over a 15 ft range.
To me it looks as if your pics are between pics 2 and 3. ie. the camera Macro toggle is not rotating the lens fully towards the infinity setting. i.e. somewhere between pics 2 and 3 above.
I had thought your Macro toggle was not connecting but from your pics it seems it is rotating the lens to some extent but perhaps not fully.
However, I just took a 2meg pic outside and I'm not sure it's any better than yours?
Photobucket makes that lamp-post look a bit hairier than it is in the original but not much worse. ?? maybe you are expecting too much??
Mike
I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.
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I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.
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Why should it take pictures identical to a 5MP camera. The lens on the front is going to be vastly different, the sensor maybe 5MP, but what is the spacing on the sensor pixels? The closer together, the noisier the image. Colour balance will be down to the sensor too.
Regards
I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
My pictures come out fine...
Hmmmmmmm...................... I'll just keep playing with it.
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I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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I'm not being flippant, but is it possible you might have a dirty lens?
Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.
The "5mp" doesn't really mean much, as stated earlier, if the sensor and lens are poor quality. As far as I know, HTC haven't released a phone with a reasonable quality camera, yet.
I bounce between different smart-phones (just coming back to WM now, after a year with S60). I can say that many of the S60 devices (in particular the Nokia N95, but also the N82 with Xenon flash) have very good cameras, being similar to low-end digital cameras in daylight. They lack optical zoom and tend to over-compress images, but have good quality lenses.
imho hd camera is excelent
pictures look old & rustic only if you make them inside house without using the artificial light setting, and this is also a general rule, not specific to HD.
Never seen a good phone camera yet, including the latest 8mpixel ones. They're all terrible.
Never
This camera will NEVER take pictures anywhere near what real cameras do. The photo sites are so tiny, they are smaller then the length of waive of light. Therefore noise, lack of dynamic width, etc. No patch will ever fix that. Sorry
open back cover , clean the lens , you will see a huge difference in quality
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Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.
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Not that I'm doubting you or anything but you do realize that the back cover only has a hole through to the lens?
You might try setting the brightness higher:
If you touch the small rectangle near the bottom right side of the screen (when holding landscape)
Then select the gear symbol, then select brightness from the menu and hit the "+" until it looks better that will remove most of the darkness.
The camera is a plain disappointment. In the time the camera autofocusses, I could have bought a Sony Ericsson C905's, create a good looking photo (with xenon flash) and upload it to imageshack.
If 'your object' makes the slightest move, your photo will be blurry . This is also the case when you attempt to make a photo of someone that isn't aware he or she has to be waiting for the autofocus lag. Head moves >>> blurry pic.
iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why. Overall my Touch HD scores 8/10, where atleast 1 full point is taken up by the camera
and it's better don't speak about the very laggy video recording
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iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why.
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Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.
arfster said:
Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.
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hehe, thats true.
mpixels dont count as much as the general public belives. the more mpix. the higher rezolution you can print the picture in. but for ordinary photos, 1.3 mpix would be enough, as long as the optics is good.
Personally, I rarely use a phone camera.
I use either my Olympus 720SW or Canon EOS.
the camera sucks **** compared to the n95 and the video recording is horrid. i know it's not meant to be as good as a dedicated camera but this is pretty bad given the price of the device.
i concur with mach03, move the camera a slight bit and eveyrthing gets blurred. one way i've semi gotten aorund this is to unlock the burst functiona nd take a sequence of pics and hope one or two coems out alright, not the most economic way to do it though...
i would ahve thought that maybe there's a way to tweak the camera to stop the blurring or even affect how much light is picked up by the lens which should also help with clarity
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I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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A silly idea, but seriously, did you check if maybe, just maybe, you left the "sepia" effect turned on???
Hello guys!
It was raining cats and dogs today here and I decided to take the HD2 for a spin. Here are the best pics of the lot.
Straight outta the card without any modification or PP done (except the first pic for which I have changed the contrast and WB a bit)
Please post some of your pics taken with the HD2 camera...
Have a good day!
very nice.
even after the patch instalation, pictures still have pink circle in the middle, so no need to show my pinkie pics...
IMHO the pink tint is pronounced in images with a whitish center. As you can see from my pics, it is not that big of a deal otherwise.
This phone has a great quality camera.
Haven't taken many pictures yet, but here's two of our cats:
okay, here are mine. as I don't take many pics by Leo, these 2 are the best I have
my friend's F355 F1 Handling Fiorano and a bird from the Zoo
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Another day in the office !
Not the best ive taken, just picked a quick one.
Taken at work, dark room. The front bar of lights were on pretty bright so thers some overexposure going on. For some odd reason the bands tourmanager wanted it that bright. I bet the band loved the heat. Personaly i thought it looked **** being that bright as it washed out all the other colours on stage
Here is 3 pics of mine - I have not put extra effort in these pics but will do better job next time when it's raining... I like all rainy pics
... pics were taken in Chicagoland area... (dunno why 3rd pic is displayed smaller than other two...)
Here's one i took today.
edit - Sorry - not sure why its zoomed in massive...
is there any possibility to reduce the flash light?
if i take pictures from faces in, well not really dark places, but darker than daylight, the flash uses his full power and messes up the picture. there is an example:
On my Sony Ericsson K800i the kamera did send out a light to get the focus and took the picture with the flash light...
anyone knows good settings to take pictures at darker places?
also the hd2 has a quiet bad image stabilization. did someone experienced something difrent?
here's from my HD2
figured i'd start a thread on the use of the camera and what others have done or do to take amazing pictures. possibly post some
only thing i've noticed is holding down the camera button half way till the center cue comes up and beeps, to snap a shot allows for a lot better clarity and focus on a shot.
that is the focus .... setting the anti shake before taking pics helps too. the use of macro mode helps with the small items... also adjusting the metering can help when you are shooting something and the light is coming from an odd angle...
ah k. Kinda assumed it was since pics are taken instantly with the push of the button instead of typical 2-3 sec delay to focus as with other phones. Have to mess with macro or any other feature other than image filter for b&w shots. Will try it though.
samsungs always take great pics.... i wish this phone had the settings the omnia 2 had.... that camera was the best 5mp out...
i wonder what Nokia's partnership with Microsoft and Windows Phone 7 will bring as far as cameras, cause honestly the last great cell phone camera i ever used was on an old Nokia flip phone from T-Mobile (years and years ago). it may have been 1.3MP camera but it took some sharp pics and quick. Iphone was eh aight, blackberry curve..the led flash was too long too bright and pictures were grainy, HTC Tilt 2...so so quality with slight not so noticeable color tint. but this Focus phone takes better pics than my old 8MP Nokia digital camera.