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8525 wakes up after touching any button

I have a weird problem with one of my two Cingular/AT&T 8525 phones. It appeared before I upgraded to WM6, went away after upgrading, and came back again a few days ago.
It seems that all the buttons are live and touching any button wakes the phone (turns it on). The phone turns on even when I connect it to the charger. Is it due to some Registry corruption or random changing of a setting? The other phone never displayed this behavior.
Any help will be appreciated.

maybe its some software u installed.. try unistalling one by one everything and see which one it is... if not then idk.. lol
good luck man! =]

In the system tab of settings, check out your Keylock.. Should be at " lock all buttons except power button".

SH4YD33 said:
In the system tab of settings, check out your Keylock.. Should be at " lock all buttons except power button".
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Thanks a lot SH4YD33! I have no idea how the setting changed to "Do not lock buttons". Perhaps my wife placed the phone in the pocket of her handbag without switching it off and the buttons created this change. Seems that the phone strives to be alive...

Prevent screen switching off during phone call

Hi,
I have read and tried what I could find, but it does not work on my Jade.
Are there any new ideas how to keep the screen from swithching off?
Joe
This is copied from the Jade Manual:
Call functions
When a call is in progress, tap the available buttons on the Phone screen to put a
call on hold, dial another contact for a phone conference, enter notes about the
conversation, and more.
None of the above is possible because the screen disappears by itself.
Do HTC know about it? This seems to be a major f...up.

This problem has been discussed in many threads, there is no real solution.
If you activate the speaker for hands-free immediately after connecting the screen keeps on.

on mine the screen goes off... but if i press one fo the direction buttons it comes back on and stays on so i can use the keypad or look at contacts etc

Thank you guys.
I will try to contact HTC because I think this is a major fault. There is no access to those Call Functions if the screen disappears.
But people should also have the choice of switching the screen off to conserve battery during long conversations. That should be one of the Call Functions.
I tried to bring the screen back by pressing the OK button, but instead it ended the call. So why do we need the END button ?? Poor HTC. They are in front of themselves. Ever producing new half-baked models without thinking it properly out.
I have not tried the < or > buttons, but it would be risky because usually the OK button gets activated as well.
Has anybody on any HTC forum tried to petition HTC? I think this issue would be a nice one for a petition.
Joe

you say you dont want the screen to switch off but u dont want the < and > active?
tring to understand what you want/dont want here?
if i press < or > the screen comes on fully functional...

I did not say I did not want the < > keys active. I don't care what those keys do because I don't use them. The reason is that when I use them, I always inadvertently activate the Enter button. On my phone that terminates the call - the same as the End key.
It would be nice (and even logical) to have the Enter (OK) button to wake up the screen instead of the directional buttons. Maybe there is a registry tweak to do that.
Joe

jfranek said:
I did not say I did not want the < > keys active. I don't care what those keys do because I don't use them. The reason is that when I use them, I always inadvertently activate the Enter button. On my phone that terminates the call - the same as the End key.
It would be nice (and even logical) to have the Enter (OK) button to wake up the screen instead of the directional buttons. Maybe there is a registry tweak to do that.
Joe
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I think it's about getting used to and familiarising with the intended design and button functions. Now after nearly 12 months using Jade I have no complaints. Even using phone banking, no problem with inputting the required numbers. Concur with MvBoe and DJHicks. It should also be acknowledged that this is 80% PDA and 20%phone (roughly).
MvBoe said:
This problem has been discussed in many threads, there is no real solution.
If you activate the speaker for hands-free immediately after connecting the screen keeps on.
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DJHicks said:
on mine the screen goes off... but if i press one fo the direction buttons it comes back on and stays on so i can use the keypad or look at contacts etc
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I was playing with the < and > keys to try to bring the screen back on, and I can definitelly tell you it does not work on my phone.
While doing that, I accidentally pressed the Power on/off switch - and voilá - the screen came back on and stayed on.
I repeated the experiment to confirm it.
Why didn't I think of it earlier? So obvious.
Joe

jfranek said:
I was playing with the < and > keys to try to bring the screen back on, and I can definitelly tell you it does not work on my phone.
While doing that, I accidentally pressed the Power on/off switch - and voilá - the screen came back on and stayed on. I repeated the experiment to confirm it. Why didn't I think of it earlier? So obvious. Joe
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Good for you Joe. I suppose many other Jade users are already using that method. I thought you knew it already but wanting something more simpler.

azahidi said:
Good for you Joe. I suppose many other Jade users are already using that method. I thought you knew it already but wanting something more simpler.
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Originally Posted by jfranek View Post
I was playing with the < and > keys to try to bring the screen back on, and I can definitelly tell you it does not work on my phone.
While doing that, I accidentally pressed the Power on/off switch - and voilá - the screen came back on and stayed on. I repeated the experiment to confirm it. Why didn't I think of it earlier? So obvious. Joe
Hi azadhidi
correct me if im wrong is this not the only method to wake ur phone while making a call ie pressing the power button

haree said:
Quote: correct me if im wrong is this not the only method to wake ur phone while making a call ie pressing the power button
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Also with other buttons if you set your phone to wake up with all buttons. See item #10 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476493

Disabling the lockscreen after waking the phone up

Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.

If i have undersood ur question correctly by completely disabling lock screen of ur future Leo, then yeah, thats possible. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
Hope that clarification helped you

It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice

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It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice
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I did not think about the accidental pressing of END key before, but this will surely worry me, atleast I get the handset myself and test it in real-life...

Well even if any accidental cliks will be happening, then the lock screen will actually come in handy

well even if the buttons get pressed somehow, the screen won't react to pressure so only buttons will work if there's no lockscreen

You're right, good point hehe I guess all of us WM fans will have to get used to capacitive screens and their advantages/disadvantages

I think there will be 2 potential risks...
1. "Send" button is pressed accidentally more than once (last dialed number will be dialed)
2. Any keys get accidentally pressed continuously (device will remain on impacting battery life)
So yet a good screen locking solution will be recommended

3. "end call/power" button pressed and hold -> device turns off (at least I think so..or is there a "confirmation screen"??) -> you don't get any incoming calls/messages/etc at all =)
Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?

In my Diamond2 (I dont use any lock screen or anything) when the screen is turned off and I press long the power button, the confirmation for powering off the device does in fact pop up, but the screen remains turned off, so its impossible to confirm the power off prompt (I see the prompt popped up when I press the pwr button once again to turn on the screen). So probably no threat from here. And even if the screen activates and the prompt for turning off the phone does come out, there's no way of confirming it in your pocket - thats the capacitive screen advantage. But the battery draining issues may occur at some scale... I guess we'll see how it all turns out in real life. The probably unavoidable problem will be if the end button would be possible to get pressed by accident - then we would be facing constant battery drainage with the lockscreen always appearing for no reason.

kabakara said:
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Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?
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That could help but won't much, because(at least current models) they wake up upon any reminder, battery low, call, text, etc. Besides you will have to use both hands to turn phone on (the top button, unless you got ET fingers ) HD is tall...

Cannot see that menu item
B3ler3fonte said:
. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
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Sorry but there is no setting for lockscreen in this menu. There is only settings for the backlight in battery or charged mode.
There is no control for the lockscreen at all Still looking for a way to completely disable this damned lockscreen.

Agreed - even the entry in the Settings tab that claims to control the lockscreen seems to have no impact (I have mine set to 12 hours and it completely ignores that) and the standard registry hacks don't seem to have any effect.
This is a real puzzler!

jgal said:
Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.
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back to the original topic:
changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already

idrisito said:
back to the original topic:
changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already
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Is it solved already?? i can`t find it

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Is it solved already?? i can`t find it
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the clarification was made to the guy who started the thread in post 3. if thats not it then the reg change i have put it should disable/enable the lock screen if the power button is pressed

Button on top of N1

Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.

I agree, its not the most convenient.

Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
lilHermit

You'll get used to it in no time!
Trackball method does not work for me.

doesnt work for me either, the tracker ball would be nice...
did you change an option for that?

The track ball doest do it for me either. I don't mind using the button on top of the phone. I've always used HTC phones and a lot of them use the button on top to wake it up. You should get used to it pretty quick.

Damn, I was hoping the trackball would work... I disliked this about the Droid as well. It takes two hands to unlock the phone, doesn't it? The G1 and MT3G methods were better.

shouldn't we be able to remap the button pressed to work with the trackball? (with root access that is)

i agree...im not liking the top button to wake up the phone...trackball does not wake it for me either...

CLOCK APP
I just realized if you open the clock application, and let the phone go to sleep, then you can "Turn it on" with the trackball or volume rocker.
Now if there was a way to have the phone set to "Sleep = Clock" we'd be golden; the clock screen doen't look that bad, either.

I will say, the button placement on the top is much better than the Motorola droid. I was worried myself, but I got used to it super fast, and it isn't an issue at all.
(Former G1 owner, used to just pressing menu twice)

Just download "Keyguard Disabler" from the Android Market. It will allow you to use the trackball to turn the screen back on.

The screen is capacitive touch, and so is the "hardware" buttons.
If you want to be able to power up the phone from sleep with these buttons, that would require the capacitive touchscreen to be active while the phone is sleeping.
Wouldn't that affect the battery life?

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Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.
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Agreed. look here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613864&page=2
David1171 has a partial solution. Problem is I'm guessing, that there is no way to setup a double tap. Maybe someone knows.
I'm hoping that a future release of spare parts will have a setting for both a double or triple tap of the track bar to wake up, with or without the slide lock. ( I think that the slide lock would be less annoying if the track ball woke it up first instead of the poorly located power button) Also I am hoping that it will have settings to adjust the trackball notification flash speed and color for different google apps.

Just to let you know:
There is a thread about the trackball for wakeup thing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5337345

I got used to it pretty fast, its funny my other phone is a G1 and i find myself trying to unlock it by pushing up top all the time now haha, just become instinct.

I've heard a lot of people say they have trouble unlocking the Nexus One with one hand, but personally I have no trouble unlocking the device with one hand... with either hand.

lilHermit said:
Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
lilHermit
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This person does not own a Nexus One.

Lockbot from market. Don't need pro, the free version will do.

Dunno why they copied the iPhone with the slide to unlock, with the magic its so easy you press the power button which is near the trackball then press menu.
It would be great if you could just press trackball then menu button to unlock.

How to lock all buttons exept power button

how to lock all buttons exept the power button in wm6.5 ?
In wm6.1 it was possible to change that in settings/keys menu. But in wm6.5 this is gone for some stupid reason!
I dont want to use ext. app like pocketshield for such a basic and simple feature.
Reason: when phone is screenlocked - any hardwarekey wake up phone from standby. And of course the screen pops up and drain battery. HD2 keys are recessed and in the pocked can easyly accidentialy get pressed. When screen weaks up for some reasons (incoming call or other notification event) the buttons are not locked and i dont need to describe what funny things can happen then (just imagine on your own). Even accidentialy changes to my settings happened in my pocket without recognising.
HTC: this is ridiculous.
Pls help. Is there maybe a easy reghack to activate this basic feature again, like it was implemented in previous Rom versions?

the button lock in WM6.5 is the same as WM6.1 (got X1 before)
but in HD2 it's different.. and I don't think anyone solved this problem yet...

No known solution indeed, apart from using S2U2, and if you want to save more battery adding proximitylock.

what if you locked the keys while you are making a call with bluetooth and you want to look in your phone? You'd have to press the "end call/power" button..
Also since the power button turns the screen off, I automaticly press the same button to turn the screen on when I'm not making a call.. I can't count the times I've ended a call by accident like this.. another great design flaw of this phone

I still hope someone will find a solution for a working hardwarebuttonlock

no one found a solution yet?
i'm having the same problem and strangely i am irritating myself to death on this,
Not a good job HTC!