Using wifi for both internet and office network access - Networking

Hi,
I am having trouble using wifi on my O2 XDA Mini S (Wizard) to access both the internet and shared directories on my office network.
If I have a wireless laptop PC, then once it has connected to its base station it will transparently access both the internet and shared drives over that wireless network.
But with the Wizard things seem to be different. Instead I have to go to settings | network cards and explicitly say whether the wireless network is for internet access or for "work" access. And change that setting again when I want to change which destination (internet, or shared drive) I am accessing. All this despite exactly the same wireless network being used.
Please tell me this isn't necessary and I have just missed something Is there a way of configuring wireless network access on the Wizard to transparently access both the internet and shared drives?
Julian
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Anybody? Surely others have experienced this problem?
Julian

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Using Activesync v 3.7.1 to internet via cable router

Hi there,
Don't know if this is even possible I've read all the articles I could find here and tried Microsoft web pages. If you can help ill most appreciate it.
(Apologies if this has been answered please let me know the link...)
My internet connection (at home) is via NTL cable, My 4 pc's connect to the internet via a Linksys router, each PC has a private IP address along the 192.168.1.x subnet which NAT to the router for internet access - all transparent.
I do not have a proxy server at home, connection is established because each PC uses the router as a gateway for internet access.
My XDA2 refuses to talk to the internet via Activesync. I can confirm that my handheld connectiviy text bubble says that the internet connection is pointing to the PC connection. the paramaters in Active sync passthorugh are set to internet - But it just won't work.
I even tried configuring the proxy option to the routers address no avail.
The XDA wants to keep defaulting back to its GPRS connection.
At the moment I have disabled the phone completely to stop it dialing out whilst I am testing.
I'm out of ideas can anyone help !!!!!!!!
I managed to fix this problem. I set up a personal proxy server from
http://www.youngzsoft.net/ccproxy/ its an excellent proxy only 815k in size and its intelligent enough to understand NAT'd IP addresses etc for connections to routers.
All I had to do was to configure the XDA 2 work profile with the proxy server address then the internet passthrough worked fine.
For Bluetooth access (I use a D-link USB bluetooth adapter). I had a problem getting the XDA 2 to launch the bluetooth connection under the activesync. I used the excellent pocket bluetooth tools
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?h...t+bluetooth+tools&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8,
after installing this the connection worked straight away with BT internet access as well.
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
Hi I am new to this forum, and like the person above am trying to find a way to browse files on my PC through my XDA2 (i-mate).
I am connected via bluetooth to my PC, activesync is working fine this way, as is internet browsing on my XDA2 using my PC's internet connection.
All I wan't to do is be able to sit away from my PC and get files from it to the XDA2 via bluetooth.
Apparently using Resco File Explorer and a wi-fi connection you can set up a network with your PC, but when I try this with Bluetooth it doesn't work - surely bluetooth can offer the same file sharing - just slower???
Please help us if you know a way!
Analyst said:
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
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Analyst said:
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
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Analyst said:
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
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Wifi connection problem with XDA mini S

I originally posted this message a few days ago but as there were no responses I thought I'd try again. I'd appreciate any advice - thanks for looking ...
I have a XDA mini S. At home I have a wireless router/hub that is hard connected to my PC, but I connect to internet from my laptop via wifi (direct to router/hub) using an always on broadband connection.
I use WPA security, but when I tried to set up the XDA to connect wifi it didn't seem to have the ability to enter the WPA settings.
Ideally I'd like to use the XDA to network with the PC and the laptop for file transfers, but if I can't do that, at least I'd want to enable the XDA to access the inernet via the router/hub directly (ie without the other devices being turned on).
Can anyone help with this please - I know from other postings on this site that I'm not the only sufferer, but I haven't see a definitive solution.
Thanks
Charles
Make sure wireless is ENABLED.
Then
START->SETTINGS->CONNECTIONS->NETWORK CARDS
Click the "Wireless" Tab
Add a new connection
General Tab
Network Name: "MyNetwork" (or whatever you want)
Connects to: "The Internet" ("Work" also works for me)
Network Key Tab
Authentification: WPA-PSK
Network Key: "makeUpAKeyHere_thats-long&complex" (I use plenty of ££%!* type characters in mine)
802.1x Tab
Uncheck Use IEEE 802.1x network access control
All done!
Now make sure you have EXACTLY the same Network Key in your router and you should be good to go.
Now to connect to your PC & Laptops you use Resco Explorer 2005 (you'll need to buy it but worth every penny!) to MAP shares from your network.
How to is in This Thread
Worked for me, and I've only had my Mini S (my first PDA ever) a week!
Good luck!
Mark.
I just got my MDA Vario (same as XDA Mini S right?) today and the manual has absolutely nothing about connecting over wi-fi to *anything* let alone my home wi-fi router but I was pleased to find this thread , for a while
START->SETTINGS->CONNECTIONS->NETWORK CARDS
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doesn't have a "wireless" tab (or any tabs for that matter) but it does offer me a list of adapters to let me modify settings (no option to add one though).
The nearest thing to wi-fi is "SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter" but I'm pretty sure that would relate to something plugged in to the SDIO slot, and not the built in Wi-Fi hardware. Am I wrong?
I've fumbled around a bit and found one screen which offers a view where I might be able to enter the details you've given here, but the textboxes are all locked/readonly (empty) and I can't write anything in them.
I'm really disappointed so far.
the sdio card is the correct one, the wizard has an sdio wifi card inside I believe.
if you select network card under settings-connections you should be able to add a new connection there, if in doubt search for wifi connection, or post back here for more help, good luck
R
I got a PM about this thread, I thought I'd reply here to as the info could help others....In additon othres may be able to elaborate more on the 802.1 query
Mark,
I had the same problem regarding my mini s which you recently answered. I have a US robotics wireless router (9108) and connect it to my laptop (Thinkpad X31) using WPA-PSK and TKIP - the laptop does not allow me to check 802.1 which I understand is for large companies with a special server.
With my miniS I have found that as soon as I enter authentication WPA-PSK and encyption TKIP, the system automatically ticks 802.1 and I cannot access the page to turn it off.
I have tried communicating with O2 via email but they haven't really helped. What I want to know is whether on your machine with WPA-PSK and TKIP you can turn off 802.1 in which case mine has a fault and I can swap it - otherwise I have to find another smart phone!
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Hi there, I'm a new user of these phones and understand little of Networking but I'll share my settings with you...
Under "Configure Wireless Network" I have:-
Under "General" Tab I have:-
Network Name: MyNetwork
Connects To: Work
Under "Network Key" Tab I have:-
Authentification: WPA-PSK
Data Encryption: TKIP
{Greyed Out} The key is automatically provided
Network Key:- ABCDE1234&*^ <- Whatever key you make up
{Greyed Out} Key Index: 1
Under "802.1x" Tab I have:-
Ticked use IEEE 802.1x network access control
(I can't change this.)
However on my domestic Netgear DG834G router everything connects just fine, g or b. Have you flashed your phone to the latest O2 firmware?
Mine is
ROM 2.21.4.1 WWE
ROM Date 3/9/06
Radio Version 02.07.10
Protocol Version 413.1.03
ExtROM Version:- 2.21.4.101
I hope this helps,
Mark.
PS. I'll post this in the thread too, it may help others.
hello
i recently purchased the xda mini s and a wifi usb adaptor. i am having trouble accessing the internet. my computer connects to the internet using ethernet to my wall (im not sure where it goes from there). i can connect my phone to a peer to peer wifi network but it does not let use the internet, could anyone help me with the settings please i would greatly appreciate it.
many thanks
harvey
To achieve that you need to set your primary connection as shared in network connections. Once you do that, adhoc mode should be possible without issue.
Please help - similar problem
Hi - I have an XDA Mini S and have connected without issue to the Internet via my router (Wirelessly of course).
The issue I have is that I cannot connect to any network shares on my PC. When I had a CF wireless card in my Ipaq I could do without issue. I have downloaded a ping proggy to XDA and can ping router but cannot ping the PC I have the shares on.
Normally (If I was using a laptop) I would check Workgroup/Domain settings, authentication credentials etc...nothing like this on XDA.
Please help
Wiggz
Quick - fix
I have spent hours messing around with this - however I have had a similar problem with a corporate laptop which wouldn't work.
I changed the router from WPA to WEP and bang - worked straight away. Exactly the same on my XDA Exec so should be same for Mini S (pocket PC 2005).
Hope this helps.
unable to find network wifi
i am using o2 xda mini s to connect my laptop via wifi for transferring files.
it shows the connections status excellent on both devices with ip address 169.254.72.236 on ppc and 169.254.130.63 on laptop.
i used laptop ip address as gateway address on ppc network wifi adaptor setting.
using ping with this ip(169.254.72.236) from laptop it shows success. but can't share folders and transfer files. when i try to open the pah from the file explorer in ppc or laptop it says 'unable to find network that support this ip address' either by entering the name of computer or by entering ip address
help me in using this facility.
MDA Wifi Wont Connect
Hi there-I have an mda vario which I was able to unlock as it was locked to t-mobile and I am with another network. After ages I was able to get a connection to my router or at least it says that it is connected. However I still cant connect to the net via wifi on my mda. I have put in the settings for wpa and wpa-psk, etc have unticked the 802.1x box etc but still no joy. Can anyone help?
Thanks
Morgas
Hi all, new here, thanks for the info posted, was useful but i'm still having problems with the wifi on my xda mini s to my netgear dg834gt router with sky broadband.
The problem seems to be that my xda finally connected to my broadband and router, but now when I try to use internet explorer on my xda I just get
"400 Bad Request"
"Bad filename."
Can anyone help with this? Thanks in advance

internet access through ad hoc wifi connection?

hi, im not able to connect to the net with my wizard.
i dont have a wireless router so am connecting directly to my laptop, the ad hoc connection i have made works fine for file tranfers, but not for activesync or connecting to the web in either PIE or minimo.
i know activesync isnt possible but surely i should be able to use the broaband from my laptop?
any pointers would be greatly appreciated. software? settings?
its a t-mobile uk vario with qtek test rom.
also anyone know of a remote control utility, i use logmein but would like something a little more menu/macro based for control of media.
cheers
kevo
Try turning on Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on your laptop; that'll make your laptop act a bit more like a router, providing NAT services to the Wizard.
yeah i've tried that, and i've just tried bridging connections (dont really know much about that) but that hasnt worked either.
kevo
My configuration
Me too, I use ADHOC connection for my WLAN.
PC configuration:
ADSL connection shared
Adress IP:192.168.1.1 Mask:255.255.255.0
PocketPC configuration:
Adress IP:192.168.1.55 Mask:255.255.255.0 Gateway:192.168.1.1
DNS:80.10.246.2 for Wanadoo
Your problem is certainly the DNS.
You can put 192.168.1.1 too.
so it is possible? cool!.......but im still having problems.
i cant figure out how to enter these settings, not to sure where to put them,
iv tried puttin the DNS in the -> connections -> vpn
and -> network cards -> networks adapters -> SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter
sorry to be a pain, but could you point me to where to get each address and where to put them?
also is there anything particular you did to set up the adhoc network? i just used the Windows XP wizard and then ticket the AdHoc option after.
my laptop is conected to the router and the router is connected to aol adsl.
the ip address of my laptop is showing as a simple 10.0.0. number on the LAN but "Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.235.147" for the WLAN
none of my setup has a static ip address, could this be causing the problems?
thanks
kevo
It's more hazardous without static adress but it's can work.
My PC has directly access to the Internet with a ADSL modem.
It's here (network cards -> networks adapters -> SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter )
Apparently, it's ok for your PC and the Ad-Hoc mode.
Maybe, you should have your adress IP WLAN on the same network adress of your router.
I GOT IT WORKING!!!
I started again from scratch.
set a new WLAN. added new setup to the vario, added the DNS etc to the vario.
the problem i was having was the way i was sharing the internet connection, i was trying to shared the internet from the wireless to the lan rather than the internet from the lan to the wireless (if that makes sense to anyone!!!). i also ticked all the connection sharing services to allow them, just need to go through them and see which i dont need now.
thanks for the help guys
kevo
(its showing my transfer rate as 11Mbps, although i think iv done the G tweak and my laptop says its got a G card. what speeds should i be getting?)

PROBLEM: sharing folder with WiFi...

Hi guys!
I'm trying to use (first time 4 me!) WiFi connection from my laptop and my Jamin in this way:
Start from scratch (without connections...) and turn on both wifi.
Create a new connection for only 2 devices from my Jamin without any security (4 the moment).
Now I can see the new wifi network on my laptop...
I chose connect from my laptop and the connections estabilish.
Handshake to retrieve the ip address is oaky and now I've got the connection from my 2 devices (Jamin and laptop).
On laptop I can ping the ip address of my Jamin but now I don't know what can I do with this connection.
Is it possible to share some folder on laptop and/or on Jamin to copy/remove/move some files?
Is it possible to use the std modem connection of my laptop for browsing the web from Jamin?
Is it possible to sync with Activesync my Jamin?
How can I do it, guys?
You can do most of what you want:
First, make sure that if you selected (on the Jamin) that your network connects to 'Work' in Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Network Selection both lists read 'My work network' or 'My ISP' if you selected the 'connects to Internet'.
1) To browse, copy, move and delete files on you laptop just create standard windows shares. (right click folder or drive, select sharing)
To access the files from the Jamin select 'open path' in file explorer and type \\computer-name\\share-name. I recommend using the free Total Commander because built-in file explorer takes up to 3 times as long to transfer files (no idea why, it just hangs in the middle).
Unfortunately Windows Mobile does not support file sharing so this will not work viceversa (looking at Jamin files from laptop)
2) To serf the web through laptop internet connection you have to use 'internet connection sharing' (not a problem if you are using Win XP).
On the Jamin go to Settings->Connections->Network Card->Adapters
tap on your WiFi card in the list and enter your laptops IP as the gateway.
3) Sync is possible but tricky. I don't know the exact procedure but you need to set up a VPN (MS removed WiFi sync from AS 4+ for security reasons). The procedure is documented somewhere here, I just don't remember where exactly.
Great! Many thanks! ;-)
whoops...
Just another think....
What about hotspos?
I never search for a hotspot near me because I think I will not able to connect to a hotspot.
Can you exlain me the procedure to search and use hotspot? How can I see if the found hotspot is open or closed? Do you use some sw to connecti with WiFi?
I am not sure about your laptop, it depends on its WiFi card driver.
As for Jamin it is very simple: Turn on WiFi, it will automatically search for all available networks and display them stating if the network is open or secure. Then you just select a network you want and it will try to connect.
Also in settings->connections->Network cards you can see all the networks your device detected (even those that are not in the vicinity any more) when WiFi is on. Tap on a network to change its settings (like encryption type if any) or tap and hold for a menu.
If you don't mind wasting space on .NET CF 2 You can download a free app called Hitchhiker that helps auto-configure WiFi network connection.
Just remember: even if you found what looks like an open Hotspot it may be just an unsecured network that doesn't provide internet acces ot the network may block devices by MAC address, in this case it will show as open but you will not be able to connect.
Many thanks! ;-)
So, is it possible that I can connecto to a hotspot but I can't use it or if I see the hotspot connected that means that I can use it to surf the web?
After the connection is estabilished what I have to do or confiugre to surf the web using that connection?
Thanks a lot guy! You're helping me so mutch!
Whether you have internet access or not once you are connected depends on the network (what you think is a hotspot may be in fact someones home network that does not have internet access). If it is a public hotspot you don't have to do anything once you are connected except to open Internet Explorer.
Sorry 4 my stupid question but..
what is the difference between accesspoint and hotspot? :-(
I'm always thinking (WRONG) thet accesspoint is home LAN and hotspot is internet...
The definition thing is kind of tricky. When you say access point some people might just think of a device with an antenna that plugs in to your network to extend coverage and others might say it is the same as hotspot.
Hotspot is generally defined as a public access WiFi network.
All of that is semantics though. When you turn on a WiFi capable Pocket PC or laptop it detects everything with WiFi around it.
It can determine if the source is another computer (Ad-hoc network) or if it is a router (real network), what standard it is (g/b) and whether it is secured (requires key) or not. Also if the network broadcasts SSID (disabling it is another security measure) you may learn its name, although it may be set to default, which is usually the router model.
As far as I know there are two ways to learn what you are connected to:
1) Ask who ever is in charge of it.
2) Poke around, and see what you get.
One more thing: There is an app (not free) called PocketLAN. It shows you the network (on your Jamin) just like you would see it in Network Neighborhood on the PC, plus lets you ping other computers and stuff. You may want to check it out.
Thanks man!
Well! Yesterday I was able to manage shared folder of my laptop from Jamin with WiFi connection.
Thanks a lot!
Now I have another problem.... I clear all my "wifi networks" (?) from the tab visible in the screenshto.
I also clear all my wifi networks from laptop.
Tha problem is that I'd like to configure somethink on my laptop in order to automatically connect from my Jamin on it.
I'd like to turn on the wifi on Jamin and receive the notification that a connection can be estabilish to my laptop...
I tryed a lot but I can't do it!
Is it possible? The tab in attachment what rappresent? I have to confiugure somethink there?
I'm always thinking that wifi connection are visible simply turning on the wifi of any device...
Is there some guide for dummys? I don't want to annoing so mutch... :-(
levenum said:
You can do most of what you want:
First, make sure that if you selected (on the Jamin) that your network connects to 'Work' in Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Network Selection both lists read 'My work network' or 'My ISP' if you selected the 'connects to Internet'.
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im sorry levenum but i didnt quiet understand what u were trying to say... what exactly do i need to do after i select network selection ??
thank u
phreaker18 said:
im sorry levenum but i didnt quiet understand what u were trying to say... what exactly do i need to do after i select network selection ??
thank u
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What are you trying to do? What is the problem you are getting?
If you start from the beginning I might be able to help you better.
In any case once you open 'Network selection' you will see two combo boxes - "drop down" lists.
You need to select same thing in both - "My ISP" than make sure when you connect to a network you select "The internet".
unable to find network wifi
i am using o2 xda mini s to connect my laptop via wifi. it shows the connections excellent on both devices with ip address 169.254.72.236 on ppc nd 169.254.130.63 on laptop. i used laptop ip address as gateway address on ppc network wifi adaptor setting.
using ping with this ip(169.254.72.236) from laptop it shows success. but can't share folders and transfer files. when i try to open the pah from the file explorer in ppc or laptop it says 'unable to find network that support this ip address' either by entering the name of computer or by entering ip address
help me in using this facility.

This will make even Bill Gates pull his hair!

I have JASJAM,Vista Home Premium,netgear 108mbps wifi card.
I have made a network b/w mobile and desktop.I view my network files using VM Net Browser,play them using TCPMP player,mp4 codec installed.
Note-All my hard drives are being shared.
Note2-I am sharing my broadband connection i.e local area network on which i have internet.
Problem-
1)I can view all my drives,i.e disk 0,the SATA which is primary drive of my computer(MASTER),BUT i cant view my disk 1,i.e PATA which is Disk 1 on my computer,n guess what,tht drive has all my porn/movies/songs/videos!!
2)I cant get to use internet on my ppc,i think i might know the corrct settings,but i have given default gateway in my ppc same as its in wifi card,in wifi card its same as in lan....192.168.100.1....What else do i have to do.
Please ppl. if u really think u r great then help me!!!Curemy 2 problems
Drive sharing and internet sharing
Hi Pranjal,
I had a problem jumping on to my WiFi to connect to the internet too. I found that the trick that solved it for me was that in Network Management settings [Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > Select Networks] to make sure that both options show "My Work Network" and then when you try and connect to the WiFi network select the this Network connect to my work option.
That should *fingers crossed* sort out your internet problem.
Though I haven't a clue about your drive sharing problem. Though I'm guessing as you should then be able to log on to your WiFi properly you should have access to your shares.
HippiHippo
Security
Hi,
Just read your post, and I just wanted to make a mention on security.
You really should think about using a router on your network instead of having a PTP (Point to Point) wireless network. If you use a Wireless Router, you can use a MAC security list which prevents devices other than those you specify connecting to the network.
At the same time, you shouldn't be openly sharing all of our drives like that, especially your system volume with your Windows installation on it. My advice would be to unshare the drives, and connect to them via the Administrative Shares (c$, d$ etc). These shares are hidden from the network browser, and can only be opened by Administrative user accounts on the PC.
By having all your volumes shared like that, and a simple P2P wireless network, someone could very easily brute force the WEP / WPA key being used by your WLAN card, and then freely browse everthing on your PC, injecting like nasties wherever they feel like doing so.

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