HI,
This is my first post as I have not yet purchased this device and needed some advice before buying. In fact I am contemplating between the Qtek s100 and the s110. I know that essentially the only difference is the upgraded memory from 64mb to 128mb and the colour. I was also told despite the fact that the 2 devices are identical (apart memory) the 128mb version runs a bit faster because of the added memory. Is this true?
I already have a 1Gb sd card and plan on using it for storage and installing programs. Will the extra memory come in handy once I start installing programs? I currently own a palm E2 and the programs in the Palm OS are pretty miniscule, in the pocket pc is it the same or will I need several mb per application? I did test out the s110 and it seemed to function pretty fast (compared to my E2) , I inserted my sd card and was able to view pics and video impressively quick with the installed beta player.
Another issue is the price. Here in Paris I am able to sign a 1 year contract with SFR and buy the s100 at a discount phone shop for 120Euros!! and the s110 for 180-200Euros. Is it worth the extra 60-80euros for the added memory? Perhaps it would be better to buy the s100 and with the extra cash invest it in a sdwifi card? Or wait altogether for a newer device such as the qtek 9100.
Also I read in another post that it may be possible to upgrade the m500 (orange) to windows mobile 5 in the future and if that being the case would the 128mb of ram be more usefull?
And is it quite easy to flash the unit to change the language from french to english if i decide in the future?
Other than that, what does everyone think of the magician? They just released the qtek 9100, with the sliding keypad but i dont see it being that great an avantage as it adds weight and maked the unit a bit thicker, taking away the advantage of it being a real portable unit. Included wifi obviously would be the biggest advantage, and of course mobile 5 (perhaps).
I know I've asked many questions here and appreciate any advice. I'm sure no matter what decision I make I wont really go wrong but just trying to invest in a tool that will at least meet my needs and stay current for at least a year before its outdated!!!! Thanks for any help and advice in advance!
The S110 is the better choice for sure. I use one myself and yes, the 128MB of Ram make live really easy - I installed everything (all programs I use and thats a lot) into Ram still have 40+MB free for program running. I would install into RAM for sure on a S110, on a S100 you may want to do it on a SD-Card but I would not do that if it can be avoided and it can with an S110 (wow that rhymes). Trust me, you WILL thank god for not thinking about every MB twice - the S110 with its 128MB can handle everyhting. Never ever would I choose a version with less RAM when one with more is avail.
The other device you're talking about is the K-Jam (iMate calles it this way). I would stay away, the keyboard is useless (at least to normal users) and it only has a 200MHz CPU!
Flashing the Magician (like S100 or S110) is pretty easy, the other one (9100) is based on another hardware platform (TI CPU instead of Intel one) the it will take a while for modded Roms to arrive.
Wifi can be added to the S110 using a SDcard, you dont wifi all the time don't you. I would never choose the 200MHz device with wifi over the 416MHz without given the fact that wifi is an easy addon, more CPU power is not.
WM5 will not likely come for S110 but who needs it? I dont get all the fuss about WM5. I used it on a HTC universal for a few hours and its not that special. The new storage (that uses stone-age-speed ROM) will make it slower in fact.
Thanks for your advice.
I figured it can never hurt to have more memory. I just wasnt sure if the ppc used as that much in terms of applications compared to the Palm os which is negligible.
May programs are less than a megabyte. I have more than half a dozen loaded on my palm E2 and still have space left on the paltry 32mb ram! Well wouldn't be the case with the magician.
I suppose the 128mb model (S110) also uses free space for caching, so if there is only 64mb vs 128 it would make a difference in performance. And the price difference of less than 100euros I guess is reasonable as its factory done.
Mogwai said:
I just wasnt sure if the ppc used as that much in terms of applications compared to the Palm os which is negligible.
May programs are less than a megabyte. I have more than half a dozen loaded on my palm E2 and still have space left on the paltry 32mb ram! Well wouldn't be the case with the magician.
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Don't forget that the OS on the Magician is from Micro$oft who are notorious for memory-hungry OSs and applications on ANY platform. :?
The more memory the better. :wink:
One thing to consider is battery life. How does the 110 compare with the 100? Keeping that extra RAM alive requires power, and that has to come from the battery.
Any 110 users care to comment?
With normal useage I get about 2.5 days on my XDA Mini...
Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
This thread might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14560
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Thx Paul
so the bottom line is that its a bit of a lottery but the fact that SanDisk are pulling out of this market must mean its unlikely to get any better for the users, is that right?
K
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
risidoro said:
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
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all this makes sense. what I like about the S100/110 is its size - looks like I'll be waiting for the Prophet just like you.
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Kean said:
all this makes sense. what I like about the S100/110 is its size - looks like I'll be waiting for the Prophet just like you.
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Let's hope it won't take too much then!
Bye bye,
Isidoro
Guys,
Here is a roadmap of HTC products for 2006.
http://www.mobigeeks.fr/stories.php?story=05/11/14/4058495
Unfortunately its in french but actually easy to follow.
I'm using the S110 now and had an MDAc before that and I must say that there is nearly no difference with keeping the 128MB RAM of the S110 alive opposed to the 64MB versions. I monitored that closely the last week and I must say the the difference is minimal, like getting 2-5% longer life with the 64MB version but the comfort of having more RAM than you'll prolly ever use makes more than up for that.
The thing with "waiting for the prohet": When the prophet is ready to launch there will be a new one in the pipeline that would be worth waiting for. There will always be a new/better one at the horizon and if you go that "I'll wait for that device" way you'll never buy one of them because you'll always look at the next model that appears better but is a few month away. That said I'm more than happy with my S110 (just bought the SpecTec Wifi and use it with the Socket driver and WiFi companion) and I'm loving it, I couldn't wish for more. Sure I miss the biometric feature of my old iPAQ 5455 but hey the S110 is great. Until the bring a S110 with fingerprint scanner I'm not interested. I dont need intergreated WiFi (the SpecTec makes up for that very well) and I dont need more CPU power (PHM can push the 416MHz up a noth if needed) and a keyboard (like KJam, I'm so used to Resco Keyboard Pro) and for sure I dont need WM5 (buggy slow OS in my view).
That said the S110 is perfect!!!
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
risidoro said:
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
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risidoro,
Which new devices are you talking about?
mogwai
Ok I am not to sure what to do, I have weighed out all the odds and I think I shall sell my Qtek s200 (2 weeks old) and get a Mio A710..
Looked at the HP's but cant be bothered to wait...so look out ebay here comes my S200 unless you guys can tell me other wise..
The push email wore off fast enough (well to be honest I am more afraid of my gps bill than anything).
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Ok I am not to sure what to do, I have weighed out all the odds and I think I shall sell my Qtek s200 (2 weeks old) and get a Mio A710..
Looked at the HP's but cant be bothered to wait...so look out ebay here comes my S200 unless you guys can tell me other wise..
The push email wore off fast enough (well to be honest I am more afraid of my gps bill than anything).
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Well if you don't need Wifi or Edge, then why not. On the other hand, if you are thinking about getting a mini SD wifi card then don't forget that you loose the ability to store your programs on mini SD and also SD cards for the Prophet are cheaper and bigger than mini SD. My 2 cents. I've ordered a 4gb SD card and bluetooth GPS for my Prophet...we'll see how that works out.
themarques said:
Looked at the HP's but cant be bothered to wait...
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Which HPs?
I think il wait for the HP HW6915 so if anyone is interested in a Qtek S200 drop me a line...
What price you want to sell your s200?
I paid £390 for it, so with deprecition il say il take £320 incl postage.
Matterhorn said:
Well if you don't need Wifi or Edge, then why not. On the other hand, if you are thinking about getting a mini SD wifi card then don't forget that you loose the ability to store your programs on mini SD and also SD cards for the Prophet are cheaper and bigger than mini SD. My 2 cents. I've ordered a 4gb SD card and bluetooth GPS for my Prophet...we'll see how that works out.
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The A701 takes an SD card (not a mini Sd).
I chose the A701 rather than the JAMin to replace my JAM.
Here were my reasons:
A701 has an Intel 520MHz processor while the JAMin only has a 200MHz processor - I've heard the JAMin in slower than the JAM was!
A701 has GPS built in (although I haven't used it).
I've never used WiFi so it isn't a problem for me (but I have heard you can get multifunction SD cards with WiFi and extra storage space).
A lot more comes in the box - mainly the car mount and car charger.
I had problems with the JAM as the phone speaker stopped working - I was worried this might also happen on the JAMin.
OK so here are the things I dislike about the A701:
Speakerphone is not very loud (although I hear the one on the JAMin ain't great either - can anyone confirm or deny this?)
Has 2 less buttons than the JAMin.
Once you do a hard reset you lose some of the phone functions (eg the predicting who you are calling!) - I've been told a fix is in development for this.
It is slightly larger than the JAMin. - the dimensions on the Expansys site (where I bought it) were wrong.
When using the MS Voice Command (which worked fine on the JAM) it is impossible to call the correct person when in the car - so it's useless really!
Hope this helps.
I can upgrade my phone next month and the Jamin only became available in SA about 2 months ago and we are still waiting for any HTC Hermes devices, but we will probably get the JasJam.
I don't know if I should wait for the JasJam to arrive in SA or take the Jamin. 2 Things that put me off the Jamin, not a very fast processor and no 3G, but then again full SD slot, I don't have to replace my 2GB SD Card, and size and weight is the same as my current Jam.
JasJam has nice 3G and keyboard, but I don't like the Micro SD slot and mini USB for charging and headset. Plus, it will be expensive as all new phones are.
If I could, I would go for the new O2 Atom Exec, but then I have to import it to SA as we don't get it here in SA on mobile contracts. :-(
What would you take?
I'd take the the Jamin and OC it using the "Battery Status" plugin found in the Prophet forum.
Though I have to admit - the hermes looks nice...
Hey there, my first post here, I used search but either I made a bad search or there wasn't a clear answer to my question...
I've aquired recently a HTC 3600 (i think is what you call Trinity ...), wich already had a 1GB card on it from ScanDisk, and I recently upgraded the PPC to the latest official WM5 WWE upgrade (RUU_Trinity_HTC_WWE_1.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_Ship.zip) and the TomTom thing, from the official site.
Now what I want know is, that is the max capacity and wich type of SD card, does my PPC support right now, without need upgrade to WM6 (for what i read, is not worthful ...)
I wanted at least 4GB card, but all 4GBs i find are SDHC wich i realy doubt 3600 support, and I found a post here ("SDHC Card Patch WM5 and WM6" working")
So is any way I can get a 4GB card, without require use that "fix" from that guy, or upgrade to WM6 ...
Thanks
buhuu said:
Hey there, my first post here, I used search but either I made a bad search or there wasn't a clear answer to my question...
I've aquired recently a HTC 3600 (i think is what you call Trinity ...), wich already had a 1GB card on it from ScanDisk, and I recently upgraded the PPC to the latest official WM5 WWE upgrade (RUU_Trinity_HTC_WWE_1.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_Ship.zip) and the TomTom thing, from the official site.
Now what I want know is, that is the max capacity and wich type of SD card, does my PPC support right now, without need upgrade to WM6 (for what i read, is not worthful ...)
I wanted at least 4GB card, but all 4GBs i find are SDHC wich i realy doubt 3600 support, and I found a post here ("SDHC Card Patch WM5 and WM6" working")
So is any way I can get a 4GB card, without require use that "fix" from that guy, or upgrade to WM6 ...
Thanks
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Opinions differ with regards to this subject - and countless posts have been written about this.
In short: SD specification only allows up to and incl. 2Gb. Anything above 2 Gb is covered by the SDHC specification (SD 2.0). HOWEVER: Some manufactures have sold 4Gb cards using SD specs, so you can find 4Gb both in SD and SDHC. You can not be sure that your trinity accepts these 4Gb cards. Some 4Gb cards have even failed after several months of othervise OK useage.
I cannot remember to have seen a WM5 machine accept more than 4Gb cards.
Anything above 4Gb is only SDHC, and apparantly WM6 supports this (judging from the number of posts about Sandisk 8Gb microSDHC cards with adaptors).
There are many reasons to upgrade to WM6, this storage card issue beeing just obvious one...
Regards,
theknf
Black Trinity
MARY 3.3.5 SL
Radio 1.50.08.11
i see, thanks for your reply
i have a trinity wm6 and he doesn´t accept 4gd sdhc.. i try to resolved but until today... nothing