Could someone educate me on how I can tell if my JAM is the 850mhz or 900mhz version?
Thanks!!!
lol, none of these!
Magicians all have 416 Mhz !!
lol, maybe he means the GSM network not the cpu!?!
I looked at some documents, i think it's 900/1800/1900 frequences.
Look here: http://www.4phones.de/Technische_Daten/Qtek/S100/529.html
@lutzs,Icefeldt: There are two versions of the Magician out there. Both support 1800/1900 MHz. Either of them supports 850 or 900 MHz. There have been a lot of threads about this already...
Icefeldt said:
lol, none of these!
Magicians all have 416 Mhz !!
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
this thread is couple months old but did you figure out a way to determine your phones frequency?
thanks
Sorry, I finally found it.
just for other people that could be looking for this
FYI.. I am told there were three hardware models of JAMs.
PM10A = 900 and 1800MHz
PM10B = 900 and 1900MHz
PM10C = 850 and 1900MHz (North American version, aka JAM 850)
hi all. i have Imate Jam and to my understanding, it's a PM10C = 850 and 1900MHz (North American version, aka JAM 850) I have been using it in Vietnam where 900MHz is being used. However, I can only use it with a certain sim card such as from Viettel. other sim cards including Mobifone and vinafone do not work.
Does anyone know how I can get around this? I want to be able to use all the sim cards available. I tried the UNLOCKER too but it still doesnt work.
Thanks a million
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Imate Jam
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Hi, I have an Audiovox SMT5600 but my network band is 900 MHz.
Can somebody tell me whether it is a hardware difference between SPV C500 (GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900) and Audiovox SMT5600 (GSM 850 / 1800 / 1900) or is it just the GSM Rom??? I have read the thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=241435) which explains how to upload the QTEK rom, but it didn't work for me.
I have found the following explanation but it doesn't say whether it is hardware difference or just a different GSM rom.
"The SMT5600 is a tri-band phone that works on the 850/1800/1900MHz bands, which means it will work anywhere in the US where GSM service is available. In the US AT&T uses both the 850MHz and 1900MHz bands, as does Cingular. 1800MHz is used in Asia and somewhat in Europe, though Europe is mostly 900MHz. If you plan to travel to Europe, the SMT5600 should provide some coverage, but you might want to consider a quad band phone which adds 900MHz. The overseas versions of the SMT5600 (iMate SP3 and Orange C500) are triband world phones with 900/1800/1900 MHz coverage which means they'll work in Europe, Asia and in the US though you'll miss the 850MHz coverage used by AT&T/Cingular."
If changing a GSM Rom is the solution, where can I find the 900 MHz Rom and what is the procedure to flash it? Can I just use the Typhoon tools and perform an Emergency Flash for the GSM part or do I have to replace the complete ROM (like with mtty)?
Thanks in advance!
The radio freq's are hardware, not software to my knowlege. AT&T Cingular in the USA have moved to using the 850 MHz band for HSDPA data packets and 1900MHz for voice. Since the SMT5600 does not support HSDPA, therefore the low band is not used. If your market is 900MHz only, then your phone will not handle it. In essence you would need the European version of the iMate or Orange version. Otherwise, you are constrained to 1800 MHz.
OK, but then what about kamscam's explanation in the thread I mentioned above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=241435)? He claims that flashing the phone with the QTEK Rom will do the trick.
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OK, but then what about kamscam's explanation in the thread I mentioned above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=241435)? He claims that flashing the phone with the QTEK Rom will do the trick.
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I have the iMate 2.4.33.11 ROM if you want to try it. I believe it is WM2003 OEM Rom for the SP3 (Typhoon).
If the claim is true that he changed an 850 MHz phone to 900 MHz and it worked, then this would seem to indicate that the phone may be Quadband but the Radio ROM only operates as Triband with the 1800/1900 always on and the 850/900 as selectable. This may be a possibility, but I still have my doubts. I still believe there is a different hardware radio for the 850 MHz and 900 MHz models.
http://rapidshare.com/files/61129896/SP3_WWE_2.4.33.11.zip
There is hardware difference in C500 and STM5600 which runs on 850. Difference is in switchplexer which in European models filters 900 and 1800/1900 MHz (Murata HA 165) and in STM 5600 (Audiovox) filters 850 and 1800/1900 MHz (Murata HA 216AW). You have to change switchplexer on the board if you want 900 MHz on Audiovox
OK, I guess this concludes the story. I have actually suceeded in flashing a different GSM Rom (Qtek) but the phone still couldn't pick up the signal.
Thanks raskell and typakkk and everybody else for help!
I read on GSMARENA that the 8525 us version is only 850 and 1900. is that true and is there any soft hack to put 2100 (I live in Brazil and 3g with TIM is 2100 here)
I think you read that wrong.
The 8525 already supports the 2100 frequency out of the box. Thats why it works in countries like Japan.
I belive what you were reading was the US (AT&T) uses 850/1900 for its network. However the phone itself supports GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900 / WCDMA 850 / WCDMA 1900 / WCDMA 2100
Appears to be different version for US
PsyOpWarlord said:
I think you read that wrong.
The 8525 already supports the 2100 frequency out of the box. Thats why it works in countries like Japan.
I belive what you were reading was the US (AT&T) uses 850/1900 for its network. However the phone itself supports GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900 / WCDMA 850 / WCDMA 1900 / WCDMA 2100
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It says (and I copy and paste)
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 - US version
Some phones have different versions for US
Every Cingular 8525, Cingular 8500 and ATT 8525 I've ever used (Mine and friends and work) have ALL supported the 2100 MHZ band.
I even searched the ATT HTC forums and all the results I've saw showed people using their 8525 in places like Japan that uses the 2100 freq without any problems. And these were all US versions.
PsyOpWarlord said:
Every Cingular 8525, Cingular 8500 and ATT 8525 I've ever used (Mine and friends and work) have ALL supported the 2100 MHZ band.
I even searched the ATT HTC forums and all the results I've saw showed people using their 8525 in places like Japan that uses the 2100 freq without any problems. And these were all US versions.
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Was in Japan last week & had no problems using my 8525 over there.
I used mine in 2100, and HSDPA work OK
Thanks for your answer
PsyOpWarlord said:
Every Cingular 8525, Cingular 8500 and ATT 8525 I've ever used (Mine and friends and work) have ALL supported the 2100 MHZ band.
I even searched the ATT HTC forums and all the results I've saw showed people using their 8525 in places like Japan that uses the 2100 freq without any problems. And these were all US versions.
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Thats the kind of answer I like to see here. Clear and objective.
(I would take of my hat to you but then it would show my bald head)
Any idea on how to get the HSDPA to work on the Cingular 8525? I have the AT&T Tilt and used the Kaiser Tweak and works perfectly. Co-worker has the 8525 but not showing up. We work about 300 feet from a cingular tower that has HSDPA because my Tilt picks it up but not his 8525.
Is there any type of setting that must be done for this to work like I had to do the Kaiser Tweak?
Thanks,
Flandrel
Can I use the european HD2 in Japan?
They are the same, arent they?!
I ask, because last time I had a UMTS phone with me and I heard only UMTS will work. Data spec doesnt mention UMTS anymore.
Please forgive me my "no no knowlege" in bandwith..
If anything expect GSM will work, I am safe
Didnt look what kind of network it used last time..
Oh come on..
Somebody have to know it
Cant think of the possibility that this question is too hard for xda pros
I have used my HD2 in Tokyo with no problems. It is a quad band on the GSM freq 850/900/1800/1900, but the 3G (HSDPA) is on the 900/2100 freq. 2100 is what Japan and Korea use, and I have used it in both places.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
iarapilot said:
I have used my HD2 in Tokyo with no problems. It is a quad band on the GSM freq 850/900/1800/1900, but the 3G (HSDPA) is on the 900/2100 freq. 2100 is what Japan and Korea use, and I have used it in both places.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
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Are all HD2 around the world 900/2100? It seems USA isn't using this band for 3G, or is it?
Do you get HSDPA in Japan?
alex fung said:
Are all HD2 around the world 900/2100? It seems USA isn't using this band for 3G, or is it?
Do you get HSDPA in Japan?
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No, USA doesn't use 900/2100.
See Here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
but there's no way to get JP support or input on HD2
Hi guys, I may get shot down for this, if I do I deserve it!
I just lost my beloved HD2 in London, I have insurance luckily, but I wanted to know if the TMOUS version of the HD2 would work in the UK.
Has anyone tried it yet?
My fiancee is the US right now, and I'm tempted to get one if its possible, but only if it will work over here in the UK.
Really sorry if this has been posted/answered before, but I'm really distraught and my searches weren't bringing up anything solid.
Thanks in advance guys, hope you can advise!
I think it just won't, it's hardcoded to work with US carriers, won't work with EU ones, that's what I've read more than once in several posts
ephestione said:
I think it just won't, it's hardcoded to work with US carriers, won't work with EU ones, that's what I've read more than once in several posts
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I think the radios are coded to a particular frequency range in the hardware which is different to most other providers.
Here is a very general outline of common frequencies:
Voice and GPRS (EDGE)- 900 and 1800 in most of the world outside NA, 850 and 1900 in NA
3G Data- 2100 in Europe and Asia, 1900 in NA, 1700 for TMo USA
T-Mobile
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
European
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Not sure if this helps, but 3G and the radios may
be a problem.
I travel internationally a great deal and so I never buy US phones.
I don't care about 3G when in the states. I want it when traveling.
I am with AT&T and their 3G doesn't work overseas.
Thanks for your replies guys! Really appreciate it.
Case closed, TMOUS HD2 not compatible in UK.
Hey
I'm living in the US at the minute but will be back in the UK in about a year. Looking at getting the 'vibrant' on T mobile when it comes out here in the US.
Looking at the frequencies for the phone will it work no problem with the 3G networks in the UK when I get home? it has UMTS 2100, but no 1900
Specs:
t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-Vibrant
I found this thread:
forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33787&sid=f365232aaef6942f0673dde5774cdc50
And this:
o2.com/cr/what_are_radio_waves.asp
In the UK do I only need the 2100 UMTS frequency for it to all work, or do I need a phone that can do 1900 as well? as per here - /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I'm a bit confused!
I had to edit the links as being a new user the board won't let me post external links... Hopefully you can get them to work.
Thanks
You only need 2100, although you probably want 900 (not 1900) also.
I believe the T-Mobile variant is 900/1700/2100 so it should be fully euro compatible.
reuthermonkey said:
You only need 2100, although you probably want 900 (not 1900) also.
I believe the T-Mobile variant is 900/1700/2100 so it should be fully euro compatible.
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Great, I thought it would be ok, thanks for confirming