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Wifi Doesn't Work On A Blue Angel!

Hello...
I had Wifi working perfectly on my MDAIII for a very brief period. But it hasn't worked since!
Only by putting the phone into Bootloader mode and starting from scratch brings it back.
It says that it is connected to my network OK. There is very good signal strength. But it only seems to connect once and never again (Internet Explorer says it can't find the page)
I also can't connect to a Wifi point at my local coffee shop, so I know it's not my equipment.
I have tried fixing the IP address but this doesn't work too.
This is really annoying as that was the main reason for getting the damn phone!
The Wifi unit is a Belkin 54g F5D7630-4A running the latest firmware.
My MDAIII is:
ROM Version: 1.22.00 WWE
ROM Date: 10/22/04
Radio Version: 1.06.00
Protocol Version: 1337.38
ExtROM Version: 1.22.162 WWE
Thank you.

Hi there, I seem to remember a similar problem the first time I tried to connect to my wifi network...
Unfortunately, it not working on a another AP doesn't mean your wifi box is ok, the problem could be with your pda and/or your wifi box.
I'm guessing you've tried going right back to basics? Turn all security on your wifi box off (might want to disconnect any sensitive lan members first!) remove all pda-based wifi settings, get a 'second opinion' machine and fire it all up. If your alternative pc/xda can see the conn, then the problem is in your MDA... Like you needed someone to tell you that!
Assuming your pda sees your wifi box and connects, make sure you tell it to connect to the internet. Then it may be worth checking that your new wifi connection will work if you enable wep (I like running with security on and get twitchy when it's off!) making sure you've copied the key as a txt file to your pda first!
If you can't connect at all, and the second box can, it would seem your device is dead... Sympathies, talk to your supplier...
Hopefully it's not tho! Can you connect to the MDA from within the LAN, maybe even by pinging it? You can get the IP address of your pda by going through start, settings, connections tab, network cards, network adapters tab, wifi adapter (on my XDA that's the 'tiacxwln" one). I have a dhcp server on my network and so use a server-assigned IP address, but either way you'll be able to get the address here. Try to ping it from the second machine. There is a toolkit called VXUtils (http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html) which I find invaluable in all things tcp/ip.
If it's the same problem I had, then all this will work (can connect to local area network) and you will be really frustrated by now! In the end, I seem to remember, it came down to the fact that my pda was set to shared security and the wifi box was set to open... Making sure that they are set to the same authentication method fixed things. After I upgraded roms, I had a similar problem that was resolved by telling it it connected to the work network, soft rebooting, changing that back to internet and soft rebooting again.
HTH, please post any and all results and I'll see if I can help more/at all!

no WiFi success after ROM update on 8125 -- ideas?

updated the ROM on my 8125 yesterday. wifi was working before-hand, i had included the DNS servers for my router, which is what i had to do to make it work!
did the same thing after the ROM update and cant get connected to any access points.
any ideas guys?
thanks

danrw84 said:
updated the ROM on my 8125 yesterday. wifi was working before-hand, i had included the DNS servers for my router, which is what i had to do to make it work!
did the same thing after the ROM update and cant get connected to any access points.
any ideas guys?
thanks
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Does wifi turn on? (Does the left LED blink like it does when wifi is turned on?)
If not, then it could be related to a cingular cab - did you install any of the cabs from the original cingular extended rom?

left led does blink.
ive also gotten as far as picking up a network.
i have tried everything, i cannot get my wifi to work at all. i dont know whats up.
the settings i needed (which i replicated for the new rom) on the old rom, was this
I would select networks, MY work network, this connects to the internet.
then in the WLAN adapter i had to manual enter my dns servers.
thats pretty much it to get it to work, but now with this rom it wont

Similar or different problem? Not sure. PARTLY SOLVED!
updated the ROM on my 8125 yesterday. wifi was working before-hand, i had included the DNS servers for my router, which is what i had to do to make it work!
did the same thing after the ROM update and cant get connected to any access points.
any ideas guys?
thanks
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Hi NG,
I updated my O2 XDA mini s (German) from OS 1.3.4.2 to 2.16.9.1. (Radio 02.07.10 included). To be honest, I was never really happy with the quality and reliabilty of the radio. 4 out of 5 times it did work, but once in a while, especially while roaming, it gave me a headache. After unlocking and updating to the new version, WLAN looks to be working quite well, at least for connecting to access points, but it seems that it can't browse external websites. VXutils give back a socket error trying to access external (outside my home network) websites/Email.
Internal (inside my home network) connections work like a charm. Termincal Services client accesses my Win2003 Server no problem and I can also connect to a website hosted on my internal server. (http://servername:port).
Whenever I try to connect to external sources, the browser stops afer not successfully "locating" the respective server. On the other hand locating might not be the problem. Performing a ping to an external site with VXutils properly picks up the right ip address but cannot send/receive ping!
GPRS works as supposed. Can connect to sites with no problem.
May be somebody experiences the same problem or, even better, has a solution.
By the way I used @Work for all possible settings. The work profile is set up for both connection types.
Besides that, the new rom is really nice
EDIT Well after some time playing around, I have solved the problem or better the problem partly disapeared. In 'Settings' 'Network Adapters' I switched from Use server-assigned IP address to manual and entered IP, DNS, Gateway, etc. With these settings it everything worked after a soft-reset. Going back to DHCP and soft-reset, it first worked an now it doesn't anymore. At least there is a work around and I'm trying now some other things. All machines currently work with the DHCP settings correct. I will check and keep you updated if the problems comes from Server settings or from something in the PDA EDIT
Lars

i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!

danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?

kristiandg said:
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?
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did you change your Wizard to 802.11g. I found that once I did that, the card stopped working.. the setting was 4, but when i changed it to 8 it stopped worked..
it was some registry key. 802dotg or something ..
sorry i cant rember excatly.

did you change your Wizard to 802.11g. I found that once I did that, the card stopped working.. the setting was 4, but when i changed it to 8 it stopped worked..
it was some registry key. 802dotg or something ..
sorry i cant rember excatly.[/quote]
Darn it. I did. I'll re-wipe and not load the 54g upgrade. Thx.

kristiandg said:
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?
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Did you by chance install anything from the cingular extended ROM after you installed the imate ROM?

no i didnt load anything
but i want this wifi to work! what the heck!!

try this
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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Danrw. Concerning the registry settings, after patching the os I did change the registry settings. One already existed with the right value as shown in the 802.11g thread. The other one, DotG, I added.
After that, it did pick up a only G router!
As far as setting DNS manually. It is not enough to just cange the dns setting. You have to enter all the information and even after a soft-reset it takes some time to have the settings picked up... Use vxUTIL 'Info'-Screen to check the current settings. I did test wlan before and after applying packages from the extended rom. No change on reliability or performance on WLAN IMHO.
As far as I understand. Your problem is actually connecting to the router/Access Point. For testing please disable all security on your router and do a soft-reset before trying to access. Also since we have heard of several problems with model 9100 not realizing if an access point is available or not. Also change the SSID of your router and if possible the MAC Address of the router.
Don't forget to soft-reset and first try SDIO Adapter inyour pda with auto IP/DNS/etc. settings.
Another thought. Embarassing, but once I messed around with trying to get a new pda online and forgot to disable the mac filter settings in the router, which resulted in being able to see the active router but it didn't let me connect. After those two days I was missing a lot of hair.
Good luck
Lars

summiter said:
kristiandg said:
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?
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Did you by chance install anything from the cingular extended ROM after you installed the imate ROM?
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I did but only the minimum. I trimmed down their install to the basics. I narrowed it down to one of two CABs. Either the gprsstall or EnableEONS. I didn't install either of those and I"m now back up and running. Of course, I still can't get it to prefer WiFi to EDGE.

I had experienced the same problem with home wifi network after upgrading my rom. I saw in my laptop that the key was set to 2. I went to the network cards, clicked on my wifi network, and under Network Key swithed the value from 1 to 2. I can now connect to my wifi network at home.

eb said:
I had experienced the same problem with home wifi network after upgrading my rom. I saw in my laptop that the key was set to 2. I went to the network cards, clicked on my wifi network, and under Network Key swithed the value from 1 to 2. I can now connect to my wifi network at home.
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I had same problem after upgrading mda pro with new imate rom 1.30. Can you provide step-by-step tutorial please?I use d-link DSL-G604T wifi router; can connect to home network but when try to surf the web from ppc it always connect through gprs; no access if phone is off.Where can I find Network Key to switch?Any set-up on ppc?
Thanks

I had same problem after upgrading mda pro with new imate rom 1.30. Can you provide step-by-step tutorial please?I use d-link DSL-G604T wifi router; can connect to home network but when try to surf the web from ppc it always connect through gprs; no access if phone is off.Where can I find Network Key to switch?Any set-up on ppc?
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I do not know if my solution will work for you because I upgraded my rom to 2.16 but lets give it a try. I use d-link DI-524 wifi router. Start menu > Settings > Connections (tab) > Network Cards [I must admit earlier today when I was trying to connect my k-jam to the wifi, I did get as far as it asking me for my authentication code and afterwards it timed-out] --> select your wifi network [at this moment as I'm trying this out my wifi on my k-jam is off] --> Network Key (tab) > it was the key index that I had to change from 1 to 2. Before doing this though, go to your router's wireless configuration page through your webbrowser and make sure the keyX (it looks for d-link this can be from key1 to key4 or at least on mine) and make sure the key index you select on your mda is the same number that is used on your router for code authentication.
Also I noticed after resetting my k-jam that I could get connected to my wifi but I could not surf, in wifi setting on my k-jam I had to hit renew ip and then I was able to surf.
I hope this works for you. Good luck and many late nights.

no luck with this for me
even tried removing wep all together. tried multiple routers.
i can detect the ssid's, but i cant connect to them. times out on the connect.

Mine worked no problem...you may already have had this suggestion but here was my process.
Unlocked with lokwiz
Upgraded
Reset before extended ROM apps installed
Installed total commander
deleted extended ROM
Upgraded again

i re-installed the CINGULAR ROM and WiFi works like a charm
......any clues?

Here's what I ended up finding out for mine. First, at the time I wrote this, I was running the 2.16 ROM. Now I'm running the 2.17, but the fix is the same with either.
Don't load the cingular add-ins GPRSSTALL or EONS. I narrowed it down to those two that were causing the issue. So, the only ones I install now are CingularMMSAccount, EdgeIcon, TimeStyle, WiFiRate4, and SmartDialingEnable. Thats it, and its all I've seen to be necessary from Cingular's little bundle 'o fun. Everything else I haven't found interferes with my ability to use the phone at all.
Hope this helps...

kristiandg said:
Here's what I ended up finding out for mine. First, at the time I wrote this, I was running the 2.16 ROM. Now I'm running the 2.17, but the fix is the same with either.
Don't load the cingular add-ins GPRSSTALL or EONS. I narrowed it down to those two that were causing the issue. So, the only ones I install now are CingularMMSAccount, EdgeIcon, TimeStyle, WiFiRate4, and SmartDialingEnable. Thats it, and its all I've seen to be necessary from Cingular's little bundle 'o fun. Everything else I haven't found interferes with my ability to use the phone at all.
Hope this helps...
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What does timestyle and wifirate4 do? I don't have these installed and haven't seen any problems.

wi fi connection problem

Hi,
My mini s seems to have a problem connecting to my home network. When i switch the wi fi on it searches but does not connect. I hard reset a coyuplke of day ago and switch on the wifi and it found my network then promted to enter key, which i did. The phone then connected no problem. No when i switch wifi on it doesnt connect. I go into network cards tab and look what networks are available and my network is there with available next to it but the options have all change (key be given out auto etc...) so i change them to the correct ones etc.. but still it doesnt connect? What i'm i doing wrong? I has worked in the past but not now. I have not installed and 3rd party software and my router is working fine (laptop downstairs works no problem off network).
any ideas
cheers

hi,
i just reseted my router and renamed my homenetwork and assigned a newwep key. started wifi on mini s and it connected straight away to the my newly named network. switch wifi off then on again and now it wont connect. it see's the network and says its available but wont connect. under the settings the network key has changed. it's defo a problem with the phone cus everything else works fine (laptop, psp). it's just not saving the network info???
and ideas???
cheers

think it could be because i've upgraded to o2 new rom??? Could somebody with the latest UK o2 rom please confirm that ther can connect to the networ?
cheers

This also happens to me with the latest O2 ROM.
What you have to do is to manually connect and perservere by going to Network Cards, tapping the network and then select Connect. It may take a few go's but it will connect eventually.
Report back how you get on.
You may want to set up your router to assign a fixed IP address to the Mini S's MAC address as well.

Sounds like the problem I've been having. I've also got an O2 rom and am having problems connecting to any wifi network, even though it worked fine the first time.
I've tried going to the network cards page and clicking connect, but it hasn't worked so far. talkingbollox - when you say 'eventually', how long are you talking?
I'll also try assigning a fixed ip address later, but my hopes aren't high.

when you say 'eventually', how long are you talking?
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Sometimes 2 attempts, sometimes up to 20.
Persevere!

20! I probably tried about 10 times before I gave up. Surely this is a fault. You shouldn't have to waste so much time just to get a connection! :x
I tried MAC address filtering too but that didn't seem to work.
Do you think this is a O2 ROM problem or a hardware problem? If it's just O2, I think I might try a different ROM. Any suggestions which ROM to use?

My Mini S came already with the latest rom I think, and it works fine with my router (BT Voyager 2110)
Are you guys using the 802.11g reg edit?? Maybe thats why its not working, I actually did the hack before I ever turned on my wifi so I don't know if it worked without it. Try it My wizard connects with my router in G only 8)
Search the forum you will find loads of posts about it, and I think somebody has even made a cab file that does it for you, along with some speed tweeks that make your system faster.

It must have taken me in excess of 40 goes to connect last night.
Yes, I am using the g mode hack. My Voyager 2100 is set to broadcast in both b and g (i.e. mixed) mode.

I had the same problem... what I did was just entering the dns adress of my router.
So the ppc doesn't wait for the dhcp server to asign it .. it works great when surfing at home !!!

Wierd WiFi problem, only one request possible

Hello, since some time now I'm experiencing a wierd wifi connection behavior:
When I connect over wifi to my accesspoint everything goes well. It connects right away.
Also when I open IE and go to any site. It does download and display the site normally. But that is where the problem begins. It does this only for the first request. After that, there is no communication over wifi possible anymore. I cannot click on a link or change to any other website anymore. I cannot download mail, even cannot Ping (with vxUtil).
Other scenario:
I connect, download my email, after it gets done downloading, again.. it does not work anymore, neighter IE, nor download email again.. it always keeps trying to connect but aborts after a minute or so.
To make it work again, I always have to disconnect, and connect again, it then works for another request. Then again disconnect- connect... and so on.
Kinda enoying!!
Another scenario:
vxUtil, make a ping and keep on pinging. Works fine until I interrupt the ping. When I then try to ping again, it only gets timeouts again.
The Wifi connection is well during all of this, no drops no anything. The reception is excellent... it doesn't matter if I'm right next to the AP or a little farther away.
I remember that I didn't have this problem with my original Qtek ROM, after I changed to the Dopod ROM, this appeared somehow. Now I just flashed that MobiWiz custom rom with AKU 2.3, hoping it would solve the problem. ... well, it didn't.
In my wireless Lan I use WEP encription with a 26char HEX key; auth: open (not shared key). Setup is with DHCP and static IP the same... tried both, no difference. I have two Linksys APs with the newest firmware on them. Doesn't work with neighter of them.
Well, I searched a long time for a solution, but didn't really know what to look for, there is many things that come up when I search for "wifi" or "connection" and "problem", so I'm sorry if already someone wrote about this, please just post me the toppic...
Thank you guys very much, hope someone can help me!
My ROM info:
ROM version: 2.15.13.27 WWE
ROM date: 3/9/06
Radio version: 02.30.21
Protocol version: 4.1.13.16
ExtRom version: 2.15 AKU2.3 PDAMobiz Edition

Try to play with the power mode of WiFi. It could help.

Found the Problem
OK, I guess I found the reason for the problem.
As I wrote, I have 2 Access Points, one acting as a Repeater. Well... I guess the Prophet didn't like his Packets to be repeated, might have gotten them twice (from the first and then from the second AP). Anyways, so as soon as I switched off the repeating one, it worked again.
Still... kinda wierd, because my Laptop doesn't have a problem with it.

having just had to set up my new network at home i was reading up on using a second unit as a repeater. It mentiond that you have to tell one of the access points (think it was the main unit) how many hops you have in the system. This is to prevent 'system loops' or something. Sorry im not massive on this sort of thing but sounds like your problem.
Mine is i set the system up, main puter, 3 laptops, xda mini s and xda2i. all worked, added mac filtering all fine, added WPA PSK with TKIP security. Main puter and 3 laptops work fine. Both the XDA's sit there saying network available or connecting. but they never connect.
Pete

8525 and WiFi

Although the left-hand green led flashes, I'm not sure that WiFi is activating. I haven't been able to see any wireless networks, including my own when I was 2-3 feet from the router and WinCE still says it can't find the device and prompts me to turn it on. Has anyone else had this experience?

losborn said:
Although the left-hand green led flashes, I'm not sure that WiFi is activating. I haven't been able to see any wireless networks, including my own when I was 2-3 feet from the router and WinCE still says it can't find the device and prompts me to turn it on. Has anyone else had this experience?
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You could try these:
This one just to see any networks around:
http://wififofum.en.softonic.com/ie/33768
and this one that does a few things in the connection process to save you finding where to put in some of the settings:
You need .net framework as well to use this but there's a link on the page for it as well:
http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/
Regarding Win CE? Need more info.
Mike

normally i do so by going to the wireless adapter inside the network adapters control panel item. wish i can shortcut it

I have wifi in the house and it shows it at first as available and then flips to unavailable when in fact it is available since my laptop is wirelessly connected. it just keeps scanning and will connect to unsecured wireless routers around my area but will not connect to mine
Any insight as to how I could permanently have it connect to mine...It keeps saying scannig network and cycles from available to not available

similar activity
I have wifi at the office and at home. We use LEAP at work and I have WEP at home for security. the office wifi works pretty well. At home, I get kicked on and off about every minute or so. I haven't figured this out yet.

mikechannon said:
You could try these:
This one just to see any networks around:
http://wififofum.en.softonic.com/ie/33768
and this one that does a few things in the connection process to save you finding where to put in some of the settings:
You need .net framework as well to use this but there's a link on the page for it as well:
http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/
Regarding Win CE? Need more info.
Mike
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Mike,
WiFiFofum shows no activity when I run it.
Re: PocketWinC, I got the name wrong previously. More information about it can be found here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3086 It makes it a lot easier to find wireless networks and connect to them. (legitimately! I'm not speaking of War Driving.)
When I run it, (I've used it successfully with other PPCs) I get the error message: "Unable to locate adaptor. If it was turned off, please turn it on now."

losborn said:
Mike,
WiFiFofum shows no activity when I run it.
Re: PocketWinC, I got the name wrong previously. More information about it can be found here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3086 It makes it a lot easier to find wireless networks and connect to them. (legitimately! I'm not speaking of War Driving.)
When I run it, (I've used it successfully with other PPCs) I get the error message: "Unable to locate adaptor. If it was turned off, please turn it on now."
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Well I think your right Wifi may be showing green LED but like you say it does not sound like it's activating. Have you tried a hard reset? If taht does not work then sounds as if you have a hardware problem.
That Pocketwinc looks interesting - similar to Hitchhiker by the looks of it.
Mike

8525 (Hermes TyTn)server assigned ip address frozen
Following an abortive attempt to connect to the (secure?) wlan at the local University , I now have an address "fe80::209:2dff:fee" locked into place in the field for "use server-assigned IP address" in the WiFi network adapter settings page. Consequently I can now connect to nothing with WiFI ( which had been working perfectly.) I would like to avoid a hard-reset - not even knowing if that will work. TIA

blane64 said:
I have wifi at the office and at home. We use LEAP at work and I have WEP at home for security. the office wifi works pretty well. At home, I get kicked on and off about every minute or so. I haven't figured this out yet.
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Hi there!
today I finally understood why I'm having a similar issue like kicking off the network every minute. I managed to remotely restart the wireless router via _re_connecting my TyTN to the wireless network. It works as follows:
1. The WLAN router is working normally.
2. I turn on the WLAN on TyTN and it gets connected to the network. Everything works fine.
3. I press the power button to put TyTN in stand-by mode.
4. I press the power button to turn TyTN on. It tries to reconnect.
5. The router restarts.
At home I have a similar issue with a different router. It seems to restart on reconnection.
Why is this so? Is this a bug in TyTN or in router's firmware? Can it be corrected somehow?
The router is a DLINK DI-824VUP+ with, I guess, the most recent firmware.
The phone is original HTC TyTN with:
ROM 1.18.255.3
Radio 1.03.03.10
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H
ExtROM 1.18.256.9660
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