This is a codec Cingular uses for its phones, it is supposed to save cingular spectrum, but degrade the phone call. Many moto phones can disable this codec through hacking. Is there anyway to disable it on the wizard?
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Is it true that USA dont have a full 3G network yet,or any 3G network ?
Currently, the Jas jar is not big seller in the USA yet ?
Hence thats why the third party software tools and GSM adapters have not yet had the research monies spent on the Jas jar 2G and 3G functionality yet. Jas Jar is a 3G toy, and if the USA havent got it, the rest of the world is far to early.
I am correct or have I missed something.
The USA will never have a 3g network that will support the universal. Cingular as far as I know has a 1900mhz test network in the states and the 1800mhz utms that the universal has will never be an option in the US. This is do to the 1800mhz spectum that is reseved for police and other government entities. Sometime in 2007 they will auction off the rest of the 1900 mhz spectum and hopefully we can get some speed. We in the states are stuck with edge and edvo for now.
Mike
Thats interesting.
So what Pocket PC device is likely best suited for USA and ROW..as of right now, what brand will likely be global leader in all markets, UK, USA, Asia.
Thats has a good CPU, RAM, ROM, SD and device drive memory and data network connection.
The best product normally has the best support in the market place from third party software developers and manufactures.
Would that be Blackberry, HP, Apache.
I believe the Universal is suffering from the lack of third party support, (ie No Manufacture as made a GSM adapter for the Universal PPC, this also may HTC fault for selecting such a silly little male connector. ), software that works well with the switching from 2G to 3G etc
Please comment.
The best Pocket PC with good support here in the US is made by DELL. Their products are highly competitive to HP, Ipaq, Loox, etc...
The best smart phone in my opinion is still made by Palm, the Treo 650 running either MW5 or the Palm OS.
Even so, I would not trade my O2 Exec to either of them. I've waited so long for a PDA phone with a decent keyboard.
Well the fastest data phone in the US would be the apache from either Verizon or Sprint. Both Verizon and Sprint support EDVO. Or you can step down to a wizard and purchase one from Cingular or T-Mobile. Both Cingular and T-Mobile support edge. Its slower than EDVO but works. And if you want dial up speed go with a universal. It has GPRS. I use it on T-Mobile. I have unlimited data and hotspots. I am trying to hack my apache which is the Verizon phone xv6700 to get bluetooth to work and then send it to my univeral so I can watch my slingbox However all the service codes I have tried don't work. I have a beta rom. blah Anyways go for the apache for the best network speed.
Mike
Hi All,
I was wondering if I could use my unlocked 8525 with Verizon's net work if I switched to them? I'm not sure about compatability of the phone with Verizon's voice and data services and was wondering if anyone knew.
Thanks
I dont think so. Att and verizon use two different technologies. Att uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. Im almost certain tho a phone that is based on GSM cannot be used on a CDMA network. The phone will work on TMobile or USCellular. They use a GSM based technology. Verizon Sprint and Nextel all use CDMA. If i am wrong and you can use the GSM based phone with Verizon CDMA then someone please correct me. But i am pretty certain you cannot.
OK,thanks. Thats what I thought
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
mistadj16 said:
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
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Not that I've ever seen.
I know sprint phones have sim card slots, but they are not used, at least in the USA.
My guess is that CDMA phones can be used in the same way as GSM phones as far as switching sims to use different carriers, but the CDMA carriers in the 'states don't use that functionality (probably to keep a tighter grip on their sucke....customers and wring more money from them through phone sales/upgrades and extra services, like a data service to put on extra ring tones )
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
CDMA and GSM phones are totally different. The only SIM based verizon phone that Ive seen its the Blackberry 8300 its world edition soo it can bu used through a cdma and also a GSM carrier. I would be interested if anyone knows how to say make a sprint phone capable of being on verizons network. That would be something different.
actually a sprint phone is capable of being used on verison network any cdma phone is. in short the way cdma works the subscriber info is assigned to the phone's esn by the carrier so only the carrier can change your phone with gsm the sim (Subscriber Identity Module) holds the subscriber info and it is assigned to a sim card id not a esn (electronic serial number) so all you have to do to get a sprint phone to work for verizon is get verizon to let it (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT) you would have better luck the other way around verizon is the pickiest co out there when it comes to network integrity and security issues they seem to think that letting people use any phone they want could somehow hurt their network
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I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
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WCDMA is 3G. 3G on GSM systems is essentially a CDMA standard, but not the same CDMA as Verizon uses. It is not compatible.
-Jay
Hi Everybody,
I have an I-Mate JASJAR and my friend who currently has a Moto RAZR, is on Verizon Wireless, but his phone doesnt make use of a sim card.
He is interested in buying my JASJAR from me, does anybody know if it is possible to get the JASJAR working on the Verizon Wireless network without a sim card?
Thanks
ChildOTK
that would be a no. Verizon runs off CDMA technology and the JASJAR off of GSM technology. so no the Uni will not work on verizons network
aaahh, ok, thanks. Didnt think of that.
Well a while ago I posted that Verizon was going to allow other phones on their network; granted they use CDMA protocol and our phones are WCDMA compatible, but I think it is the wrong frequency.
just my 2 cents
My old Blackberry and several samsung phone as well as some others have the option that if you have wi-fi access, you can set your phone to use the wi-fi as the preferred method to place calls, basically turning your router into a cell tower. T-Mobile likes to sell this as their @home package or something for unlimited calling etc, but you can enable it without the package, it just uses your minutes, messages etc in your plan. Any chance these phones could be enabled with this option as an app or part of a ROM? I emailed HTC about it before T-Mobile released the phone and they said the phone was capable but that T-Mobile didn't have it put in their ROM. Wondering if this can be done?
Thanks
NO, not possible.
UMA would've been on the phone already.
and have you noticed?? all UMA capable phones don't have 3G? thats another reason why it will not work.
I've got an old LS997 which was my daily driver a few years ago on Sprint. Not anymore and now our new plan is under T mobile. I flashed the LS997 version of /e/OS to it (a de-googled version of LineageOS) and it seems to work fine, except poor reception compared to my newer Pixel 4A (which has newer LTE and NR-NSA modem and maybe better SNR? not sure...)
Importantly, call and SMS do not work. It would be cool if these could be made to work so this phone could be used as a backup. T-mobile does not give their blessing, they claim it is not supported. Why is it so? LTE is GSM technology, and LTE data works as well as it did when it was sprint years ago, shouldn't SMS and calling work over VoLTE? and hell if T mobile adopted Sprint's network, they should have kept support for CDMA in addition to GSM phones to maximize the number of supported devices and minimize barriers to Sprint customers when said customers transition over from team yellow to magenta.
I played with the following settings:
* configuring the APN as per the official guide.
* tried a few random selections under "preferred network type" currently have the most inclusive option selected. (NR/LTE/TDSCDMA/CDMA/EvDo/GSM/WCDMA
* CDMA Subscription selection, tried both RUIM/SIM and NV
I suspect it simply will not work because it is in fact an LS997, and does not support the bands and technology the T-Mobile network uses. Since they are GSM and Sprint was CDMA, and my vague non-technical understanding is that Sprint used some bodgy CMDA bull**** for voice and SMS and GSM technology for data. though that would explain why mobile network state is disconnected and mobile voice network type is unknown, while mobile data network type is LTE and works fine.
Dumb question, what would happen if I were to do the forbidden thing: flash US996 bootloader and ROM to this device? or deliberately overwrite the radio.img? Something about there not being KYZ files for the LS997 variant means no going back but hey Sprint doesn't exist anymore so who cares. Worst case my almost useless phone would be bricked, though I do sometimes use it on the side as a sort of tablet and to record videos so it would be ashame to completely destroy it, but seeing the phone can be had well under $100... meh.
Is it possible to do this acknologing there is probably no turning back and also there is a good chance of hard bricking?