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Well,
Aside of the comatose battery life that this device has, to which one gets used after a while, now I had something new happening! While whatching the device on a table during a meeting, I was suprised to see it turn on by itself! NO, No alarms, or incomming calls, task reminders or the like. It just went on, and back off after the time set on the battery settings! I checked the settings, soft reset the device, and nothing. It seems to turn on and off every 3 to 5 minutes! This will cause battery life to drain even faster! Does anyone have a clue????
Cheers
Mceitlin
Probably it is a issue with ActiveSync on your pocket pc.
Try to have a look into ActiveSynch menu:START-Activesync-options and change Mobile schedule,etc..
Regards,
Ser
Thanks, but I already tried this. I even disabled all synching and nothing seems to solve this issue! It is anoying as it drains battery even faster ! Any other suggestion ?
join the club mate if you look around youll see a fairly big thread about it and btw its nothing to do with activesync its the phone itself lol
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Thanks, but I already tried this. I even disabled all synching and nothing seems to solve this issue! It is anoying as it drains battery even faster ! Any other suggestion ?
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Do you have Spb Pocket Plus installed? If so, check the version. I had version 2.0 build 1178 installed and I noticed that my XDA II would just power on by itself every so often. It got to the point that the battery was being drained very fast for the PDA to be useful for a day. I also noticed that an entry is added in the notification database every so often. It has an application name of PlusReminder.exe.
I sent a technical query to Spb and they advised me to download the latest copy of Pocket Plus. I did. I now have version 2.0 build 1184 installed, and now, the notification database problem is gone. Also, even though the device still turns itself on once in a while, it's no longer as bad as before. It's back to being useful again as the battery can now last for a day.
Hope this helps.
I checked everything I had installed. Almost no 3rd party software other than Staralliance timetable, and pocket TV. No SBP or any other software mentioned on the threads to be causng any trouble. I then went over every single move I made over the past 3 days trying to remember what I had changed... Tadaaaa!!! I forgot I run spritesoftware's Sprite BackUP, which by the way I highly recommend! I had set the battery monitor to back up automatically when the battery reaches the 30% treshold. Indeed, the momet I UNchecked that option, it stopped!!!! :lol:
Hi,
I'm very happy with my universal (wifi and vga in pocketsize) only one thing is driving me crazy.
every, say once in 10 times the universal won't start when I press the power button. (after it turning off automatically after a few minutes when on battery power). Worse yet, it doesn't accept phonecalls and smses anymore either..so it already crashed silently. Unfortunately you can't see this from the outside since the lights still flash. I only notice it crashed when trying to start the device.
I've updated to wm6 because I thought it was a wm5 issue, but it wouldn't help. I also updated to radio 1.13 (the orange radio stack as found on this site). But this too, didn't fix it.
does anybody else have the same problem?? This problem renders my whole device unuseful. =^(
thanks!
Reinier
Welcome to the club...looks like no solution on this one yet. Here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272938
Some say it might be incompatibility with the SD card, but not in my case.
Hi,
that doesn't sound too good.
Anyhow, I'll experiment with it some more (what else can one do?) to see what is making it crash more or less (wifi/sdcard/simcard/battery?)
I'll post my findings... maybe we can find some mutual thing which might be causing it
I doubt it is software related since my whole machine is wiped clean and has nothing on it
R
yes, me too...and it seems to get worst as time goes by...anyways, I suggest that if you have any warranty left to send it back for warranty. GOodluck!
thats a pretty good point... ;^)
I'll check.
too bad it's quite vague description:
yes, sometimes it doesn't powerup..
you can already see the technicians there... they try it 4 times, it works everytime (of course) , and they send it back with a sticker saying 'correct'
ah well.... lets not get ahead of time.
r
Solutn found...check your PM
Check battery charge level
hi, i didn´t experienced that problem, but when i start up my device, sometimes, the start-up is really slow and the screen gets white but finally, i mena 2 or 3 seconds´ time it becomes normal.
Is that what experienced?
clemsyn said:
Solutn found...check your PM
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What do u mean with PM?
DId u get the solution?
See ya folks
Solution
Check you PM means check ur private messages
A fellow here with the same problems sent his device for repair and the problem was voltage control unit of mainboard
Solution:
1. Install Pocket Hack Master and go to settings and disable the CPU scaling of the device. Then set it to start at startup. Then clock your device at 312 mhz before turning off the device or closing the clamshell. You can always clock it to 520 while using cpu intensive applications. Just make sure to set it at 312 before turning it off.
thank you buddy
Jumanji1212
Did it also work for you? I forgot to add that I am also using an external charger specifically for Universal because Im afraid charging it via miniusb might mess up the voltage control unit more.
Well, i normally charge it with the ac/dc adaptor but not always. Since i deleted spb diary today plug-in and installed the latest qtek spanish rom and radio, the time of the white-screen shorten.
clemsyn said:
Check you PM means check ur private messages
A fellow here with the same problems sent his device for repair and the problem was voltage control unit of mainboard
Solution:
1. Install Pocket Hack Master and go to settings and disable the CPU scaling of the device. Then set it to start at startup. Then clock your device at 312 mhz before turning off the device or closing the clamshell. You can always clock it to 520 while using cpu intensive applications. Just make sure to set it at 312 before turning it off.
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Hello, I have the same problem (Power button does not start after an auto sleep).
My qtek 9000 however gives a blank screen when playing with the PHM speed tests. (When it is plugged in it works.)
Now I am a little afraid to do the "set it to start at startup"
Is there no risk it will never startup anymore?
Can I do this (temporaly) just for testing without the auto startup option?
So: disable CPU scaling and set the speed on 312 and put it in sleep mode.
I need my Qtek so badly that I get horribly stressed with this kind of things.
Huib
Hi Guys
Been having the usual "Turn on" problem with my TyTN since having it, you know, very occasionaly - maybe once a week - you try to turn it from the button on the side and it wont. No matter what you do it stays off and you have to soft-reset.
Well, over the past few weeks its been getting MUCH worse. Im now resorting to rebooting the phone maybe 8 or 9 times a day! I have tried various diferent ROMS and the same issue keeps occuring. I've also checked the ROMS threads to see if anyone else has had this problem as severe as me and they haven't.
I REALLY like my TyTN and don't want to be forced into buying a new phone with the Ultimates just down the roads.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Current build (remember, tried with a few diferent ROMS):
Crossbow Prof
CE OS 5.2.1236 (build 17741.0.2.1) = LVSW build
ROM: 3.30.0.1
Date: 17/4/07
Radio:1.41.00.10
Proto: 32.74.7020.18H
Monty Burns said:
Hi Guys
Been having the usual "Turn on" problem with my TyTN since having it, you know, very occasionaly - maybe once a week - you try to turn it from the button on the side and it wont. No matter what you do it stays off and you have to soft-reset.
Well, over the past few weeks its been getting MUCH worse. Im now resorting to rebooting the phone maybe 8 or 9 times a day! I have tried various diferent ROMS and the same issue keeps occuring. I've also checked the ROMS threads to see if anyone else has had this problem as severe as me and they haven't.
I REALLY like my TyTN and don't want to be forced into buying a new phone with the Ultimates just down the roads.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Current build (remember, tried with a few diferent ROMS):
Crossbow Prof
CE OS 5.2.1236 (build 17741.0.2.1) = LVSW build
ROM: 3.30.0.1
Date: 17/4/07
Radio:1.41.00.10
Proto: 32.74.7020.18H
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The problem is you have told us nothing about what is running whether you leave it to sleep by itself what's on the today plugins whether you have active sync turned off (ie set to manual) etc etc etc and which of the freezing fixes you have tried. Whether your plugins are on sd card whether it freezes with sd card not inserted etc etc.
Mike
right o' ... get your laughing gear round this
I let it "sleep" itself.
Im running:
Activesync (Exchange push mail - no pattern discovered with regards to receiving new emails)
SPB Weather (Today plugin)
Everything else is standard.
Connecting over 3g/HSDPA
There are other apps installed but these are always "closed" after being used. All apps are installed to the phone memory and not SD card - i've never tried without the card, guess I will try this now! Although, if this is the problem, how do I get around it???? I need my card.
Monty Burns said:
right o' ... get your laughing gear round this
I let it "sleep" itself.
Im running:
Activesync (Exchange push mail - no pattern discovered with regards to receiving new emails)
SPB Weather (Today plugin)
Everything else is standard.
Connecting over 3g/HSDPA
There are other apps installed but these are always "closed" after being used. All apps are installed to the phone memory and not SD card - i've never tried without the card, guess I will try this now! Although, if this is the problem, how do I get around it???? I need my card.
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Well I can see why you kept those things secret. If someone asked me to compile a list of things more or less guaranteed to cause freezing and refusal to turn on, I think I'd give 'em a link to your setup!!
If you must have push mail (that requires active sync to be active) and weather applications then you will likely continue to have problems.
You may be able to reduce the number of them by NOT allowing device to sleep by itself. I have mine set to never sleep. However I do always use the on/off button when finished.
It's fine to have applications that require connection to internet and today plugins on main memory BUT others should be on SD card. The reason is that running low on main memory (and not even that low!) can cause freezing.
PIE can rack up loads of storage memory - can move storage to card.
Regularly run a third party clean out application.
Mike
PS. resisted the urge to get my laughing gear out. Think I was in shock actually. You could consider writing a "how not to setup your Hermes" guide.
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Well I can see why you kept those things secret. If someone asked me to compile a list of things more or less guaranteed to cause freezing and refusal to turn on, I think I'd give 'em a link to your setup!!
If you must have push mail (that requires active sync to be active) and weather applications then you will likely continue to have problems.
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Why would these apps cause it to lock up? One comes with the operating system and one connects to the net once a day. Surley Outlook can't be that unstable as to cause lockups on average every two hours. I doubt SPB Weather is that unstable as well!
Yes, I must have push email. Why waste battery power polling every thirty minutes or so with pull email?
The memory card is going back in. I took it out, went to Sainsburys and BAM its locked again
I will now try the "no auto sleep" thing and see how that goes so thanks for that suggestion.
i had problems like these with my Tytn and eventually upgraded to WM6 (Black 2.5). It really made a difference. Much faster, never freezes and battery life is better.
Severe fix I know but worth considering
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.....You may be able to reduce the number of them by NOT allowing device to sleep by itself. I have mine set to never sleep. However I do always use the on/off button when finished. .......
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TOTALLY agree with you there Mike. I was having some real issues with the "coma" effect once the device has automatically gone into sleep mode, this wa admittedly on the original HTC ROM, and was caused by pocketzenphone however since I have (without fail) set the device to NEVER switch off automatically and have got into the good habit of using the on/off button liberally.
warmkiwi99 said:
i had problems like these with my Tytn and eventually upgraded to WM6 (Black 2.5). It really made a difference. Much faster, never freezes and battery life is better.
Severe fix I know but worth considering
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See my orginial post Crossbow
It has! Sadly though it was still "sleeping".
However, i have taken it out of auto sleep and put it to manual, guess what .... been a couple of hours now and NO lockup! Yay!
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Why would these apps cause it to lock up? One comes with the operating system and one connects to the net once a day. Surley Outlook can't be that unstable as to cause lockups on average every two hours. I doubt SPB Weather is that unstable as well!
Yes, I must have push email. Why waste battery power polling every thirty minutes or so with pull email?
The memory card is going back in. I took it out, went to Sainsburys and BAM its locked again
I will now try the "no auto sleep" thing and see how that goes so thanks for that suggestion.
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Even official applications are not immune from problems. The Hermes perhaps for some configurational reasons (though it's not just Hermes)does not like running active sync from sleep mode and it does not like running other applications that require syncing (eg. weather type ones).
Active Sync is not a particularly stable app and combine this with the Hermes weakness when being allowed to sleep by itself and you end up with a lock-up. (I have seen some explanations for this but only guess work and theories)
Many people have set their devices up to run active sync in manual mode only and this does help to reduce freezing. Of course you cannot do this with push mail enabled. (It might be possible to run some script or a scheduler programme to start and stop Active sync at set times - though the complexities here are as likely to cause a freeze as anything else!!
I am pleased your SD card seems not to be the cause - it can be for some.
I see you are possibly getting some benefit from a manual shut down rather than auto sleep
You may find the odd other idea on my site - freezing/lockups:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com
There is a thread here somewhere but i'd need to search for the thread.
You could also try doing without the weather app for a test. However you may not see a difference as active sync is already running for the mail.
Mike
Monty Burns said:
See my orginial post Crossbow
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Sorry, didn't notice that......
Hi Mike
Turning off the auto sleep thingy has worked a treat. I'm down to one reboot a day now and that has been related to t-mobiles 3g network failure collapse me thinks
So this tip alone is worth its weight in gold!
SPB Weather is running and so is Activesync/push email.
Also now added today plugins:
RhinoStats (CPU/memory monitor - realtime)
RhinoLaunch (custom program launcher)
All seems pukka and "coma" free
Good news, pleased things have improved.
Of course I suppose we could all agree auto sleep should not cause the device to go into a "coma", but still, I've got used to just using the on/off button. Curiously this has improved my battery life as I turn off as soon as I finish, rather than waiting for it to turn itself off (which it won't anyway as I disabled that mode).
Mike
Monty Burns said:
right o' ... get your laughing gear round this
I let it "sleep" itself.
Im running:
Activesync (Exchange push mail - no pattern discovered with regards to receiving new emails)
SPB Weather (Today plugin)
Everything else is standard.
Connecting over 3g/HSDPA
There are other apps installed but these are always "closed" after being used. All apps are installed to the phone memory and not SD card - i've never tried without the card, guess I will try this now! Although, if this is the problem, how do I get around it???? I need my card.
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I'll share my experience so that maybe it will help. I use WM6 on my 8525 and have found the "unable to wake" problem to be related to my SPB Mobile Shell. When I have the phone set to display SPB Mobile Shell's "Now Screen" upon wakeup, it quite often will not wake. But if I manually put the phone to "sleep" mode, then it will always pop alive fine. Disabling the Now Screen all together leaves me no problem. My guess is maybe it's an SPB issue. So maybe SPB Weather is causing it. I used to use SPB Weather before Mobile Shell, but since Shell has weather built in, I don't need SBP Weather any longer.
Hope this helps diagnose the problem a bit. For the record, I never had a wakeup problem with WM5.
Since going to black 2.5 and then 3.0 I have not had any of the sleep issues.
I run SPB Weather which is set to update every 5 hours, I run activesync to the exchange server which checks emails every 2 hours. My phone auto-offs after 3 minutes.
I did have AS set to When it arrives - but found this to be bad for battery and also stability. Every ten minutes was fine when I needed more urgency. All programs are installed to the phone, exept pie cache and outlook attachments which are on the card. I have not done any special tricks to avoid any sleep/card problems.
Hi everyone, I'm new here, couple of weeks ago if you'd asked me what a prophet was, I'd I've talked about religion. I was given a hand-me-down imate jamin that i"m trying to get working properly.
The prophet in question was previously working properly without any issues, the previous owner had just gotten a new battery for it when the issues started. The phone slowed down to a crawl, nothing could get done with it, takes like 1 min to open a text msg, around 10sec to answer a phone call. Having gotten it and thinking its a firmware problem, I did a hard reset, nothing, then I upgraded the firmware to the latest JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip again, nothing!
Funnily enough, this behaviour is erratic, do a soft reset, load sktools and the cpu usage app reports that all is fine, give it some time then ka-boom! the cpu usage gets maxed out by device.exe seemingly for no reason.
Anyone here ever seen behaviour like this? If you have or just have a suggestion on what I can try, please post. I'm not sure what to do now since I'm on the latest firmware and I don't know where I can get a rom for wm6 for the phrophet. I"m hoping upgrading to wm6 will fix this issue.
Thanks in advance.
John.
device exe
Same problem with my HCT Diamond.
Dia Duit Rom.
Trying to find a solution!
Firmware
You could try a cooked rom, but make sure you perform a hard SPL first as this will save your prophet from bricking.
The other thing is have you tried a different battery as a bad battery can seriously affect the phones performance espcially if it is a cheap copy.
If your'e worried about flashing have a deep read of the following link
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet
Hope this helps
Sorry mate, just seen your reply.
The phone eventually died, won't charge, nothing doing, looks like its bricked. I moved to a Kaiser, which then started having 3g problems, though I got a temporary fix by keeping it on 2g.
Now I have a mytouch which needs unlocking. I think me and htc should part ways, I'm yet to have a simple good time with any of their products.
As regards the prophet... is there a way I can resuscitate it? It wont' charge, no light shows either on usb or charging from a normal charger.
Thanks
John
It's not like that. HTC phones work good as long as you keep them good. I'm not saying you didn't keep it good but maybe some softwares ruined your Pocket PC. ANytime this happens, a hard reset and revert from backup should solve most of your problems.
Looking at your Prophet, smells like the battery is dead? Try changing and see if that helps.
Regards,
Carty..
This looks like a day that is going to be special. This phone has been in my drawer over a year now, I'd given up on it long ago. Well I stripped one of my old chargers down to the wire, charged the battery manually for a few mins and presto the phone has come on.
It's still slow as hell, so I see device.exe is still hogging cpu.
Time to review the prophet roms, been a while since I checked on it.
happens the same to me too
for me this issue rises up when i connect with my pc :S
due to the calnot or calpd or poutlook or someother exe ... it streches the cpu usage to a 100%
some ppl say that having the correct time zone helps u out in both, the pc and ppc solves the issue ... well i have windows 7 (UTC) and in ppc (GMT ... using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401161 ) does it make any difference ?
now the only option i got is to either hard reset although this happened with my previous ROM too :S
Hi
My HD2 often fails to wake up when I press any of hard button. Before I perform a hard reset I wanted to ask you guys if there are any tweaks or apps which might be causing this. I am using the stock T-Mobile UK firmware, and besides tweaking a few settings via BsB Tweaks, the phone is pretty much in its original state.
My previous HD used to do this for a time, until I realized it started happening after setting up Windows Exchange server. After hard resetting and setting everything up again, it worked fine. I wonder if the problem I have with the HD2 is also due to the exchange server.
Sometimes the phone does wake up a couple of minutes after I pressed buttons, sometimes an incoming SMS helps it. And many times it just wakes up as it should when I press the Home or power button.
I don't have many apps installed, besides Tomtom.
Cheers !
Hi, the same was to me: sent an sms, locked the device, tried to unlock it in half an hour - screen blank, no response to buttons at all. ROM is stock. I remember, I also had TomTom installed and some other popular tweaks, not remember which exactly. After it, I did hard-reset the phone (restored original state). Didn't had the same problem after it.
But had a lot of other problems with HD2 - unsent sms even after sms fix from HTC, unlock screen of S2U2 locked completely (someone was calling me at this moment!), sporadic change of clock time zone...
It is my first smart-phone, and I'm disappointed soooo much... Used "true" mobile phones for years, but never had such problems.
I had the same problem but it's seemed to have stopped (for about 2 days now). It got to the point where the phone wouldn't get past the boot screen! I had to re-flash in the end....
I think it may be related to the applications I may have running. Although, most people are saying the ROMs so far are not 100% stable. (I'm running the Official Test version of 1.61)
The things I've done to try to get around it is :
- Ensure .NET compact frame work is installed to set up 3.5 and set up correctly in the registry
- Once in a whie I run the cleanRAM application that's been developed here on these forums
I don't think I've found the total solution yet, but I'm sure having these in check will help.
To give an update :
I did a hard reset yesterday. (it's always painful, but also exciting as you can set it up from start - sad i know)
This time I set up the windows exchange server straight from the beginning, then installed all the tweaks, tomtom, hotfixes etc. It woke up everytime since then, touch wood !
I'm not sure, but there are security policies pushed through to the device (like making screen lock compulsary etc) when I set up the exchange server, maybe this is causing some sort of conflict with the device, which is maybe somehow avoided when you set it up before anythin else... I dunno.
I'll let you know if it fails to wake up again.
By the way, so far I only installed BsB tweaks, but didnt apply any tweaks yet. I changed the battery percentage display, 16 quick links cab, and 3G switch in the Coms Manager, but that's it. No tweaking in the registry yet, just so that I can determine the root cause if it happens again. But so far it looks good ! It also seems faster (as it always does
Is it still running stable ?
Chaps,
Look in this thread for a possible solution to your problems....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596484
WB
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It has been pretty much stable. Since the hard reset I was adding (or tweaking) tweaks and cabs in a controlled manner to see which one might be causing the freezing.
After I installed the Disable Auto Device Lock.cab (search the forum, I think it is in the sticky Tips and Tricks post), my HD2 didn't wake up a few times. I uninstalled dit and it is working fine again.
Weird, but maybe that's the registry change that conflicts with the exchange server policies that are pushed to the device, and causes the freeze.