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GPRS web browsing problem -limited access and no full google

I'm on Tmob USA's GPRS which works fine, except certain pages (like the html full version of google) or blogger.com just will not load over GPRS. I've tried some registry tweaks to make my browser look like another browser and some other tweaks that were recomended and I still have no luck.
I believe another JasJar user was able to set the preferences at Google to always load pages as HTML, but over GPRS I can't save my preferences on that page to do so. Over wifi I'm able to connect to any page just fine (and I've set my google preferences to HTML from the device on wifi), so I believe somewhere the device is changing the settings depending upon my connection method.
This is one of my last JasJar bugs that's driving me nuts. Please help if you can!

Really, no one else is having this problem? crap....

After my last hard reset google keeps diverting to www.google.co.uk/pda. I think that's because I haven't used Tweaks2k2 to change a few bits, as I normally do, but you can still view 'proper' google, by going into preferences (on the website) and changing the default to 'HTML'

sub69 said:
After my last hard reset google keeps diverting to www.google.co.uk/pda. I think that's because I haven't used Tweaks2k2 to change a few bits, as I normally do, but you can still view 'proper' google, by going into preferences (on the website) and changing the default to 'HTML'
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See, I tried that with no luck. When I navigate to the preferences page over GPRS it fails to save my preferences, literally every time it times out. When I use Wifi I can navigate to the preferences page and save the preference for full HTML, but it still doesn't load when using GPRS. It's pretty clear that it's using a different set of connection settings when the connection is made via GPRS. What settings do you use with Tweaks2k2? Maybe that will work for me...

As I see it, there are three possible reasons:
1) The connection is not a full internet GPRS connection and maybe instead going to a "walled garden", or using WAP
Go to settings, connections, connections, Manage existing connections and duplicate the settings from your Universal onto another device capable of taking your SIM card. Try that sim card in another device with the same connection settings. I expect you'll get the same results. If so, post the settings here
2) Tweaks has done something undesired. Can you list a few websites that are failing? Personally, I'm reluctant to install ANY software until I'm 100% convinced I need it. This applies also to my desktop and trippley so to my server
3) Blame the user :lol:
I reckon it's 1) :idea:

I just set it to recognise pIE as IE6.0
I'm not convinced that that's going to fix the problem you have though, because I'm sure that I've had that problem on other PPC phones which I never used Tweaks2k2 on, and there was some other way to fix it.
I'll have a play around and see what I can come up with...

xiasma said:
As I see it, there are three possible reasons:
1) The connection is not a full internet GPRS connection and maybe instead going to a "walled garden", or using WAP
Go to settings, connections, connections, Manage existing connections and duplicate the settings from your Universal onto another device capable of taking your SIM card. Try that sim card in another device with the same connection settings. I expect you'll get the same results. If so, post the settings here
2) Tweaks has done something undesired. Can you list a few websites that are failing? Personally, I'm reluctant to install ANY software until I'm 100% convinced I need it. This applies also to my desktop and trippley so to my server
3) Blame the user :lol:
I reckon it's 1) :idea:
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Some interesting ideas there. Some of the sites that are failing include:
www.google.com - I can't access the full version and the PDA version hangs constantly during loading and loads results very slow, no images shown when image search is done.
www.blogger.com - It tries to load www.blogger.com/start which again hangs terribly and loads a version of the page with no images.
Various internet shortcuts I imported over from my bookmarks I used on my Dell Axim X30 (PPC2003SE). I'll have to pull a list later if I'm still having this problem.
I don't have another PPC Phone device so I can't try the settings swap but it does sound very likely. I am currently using the cab file from imate for tmobile USA settings (which does create a connection called "tzones" which kinda worries me), it uses the internet2.voicestream.com access poin. I had also manually configured the settings previously using these settings and still had the same problem (pulled from a hofo post by Mashie):
Goto Start > Settings > Connections > Connections > Add new ISP...
Give it a name (T-Mobile)
Select Cellular Line (GPRS)
Next
APN = wap.voicestream.com or internet2.voicestream.com (whichever you like)
Next
Next
Finish
leave username, password, domain, etc... all blank
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But maybe I need to try some different settings... I'll try playing with the settings I have, creating new settings, and hounding some other Tmob USA GPRS user's settings (hopefully someone using another jasjar).
Re: #2, I haven't actually used Tweaks, I used Resco registry editor to try and make the browser appear to be a full PC browser. I tried a ton of registry settings suggested by some more Hofo super-users, but nothing worked. I eventually got really creative and desperate with some registry edits and finally hard reset the device, tried the suggested reg edits again without success, then hard reset again.
Re: #3 - lol. I seem to be the only one with this problem, so I'm not rulling it out... I was a bit worried someone was going to suggest that the PEBKAC (problem exists between keyboard and chair).

www.hotmail.com and www.handango.com are sites I have experienced cannot be accessed in their full PC version. The PIE on the JJ takes us to the mobile sites.
Likewise a strange thing happens when I try to log into the "PocketPCDubai Forums". PIE starts to download the site page. I can see the progress indicator gradually move up. When about 180 Kb has been downloaded the progress indicator disappears meaning that the page has fully been downloaded. Nevertheless the page is blank and with nothing on it.
I also have tried to modify the registry to make the PIE appear as a full browser but nothing seems to work.
Regards

www.hotmail.com and www.handango.com are sites I have experienced cannot be accessed in their full PC version. The PIE on the JJ takes us to the mobile sites.
Likewise a strange thing happens when I try to log into the "PocketPCDubai Forums". PIE starts to download the site page. I can see the progress indicator gradually move up. When about 180 Kb has been downloaded the progress indicator disappears meaning that the page has fully been downloaded. Nevertheless the page is blank and with nothing on it.
I also have tried to modify the registry to make the PIE appear as a full browser but nothing seems to work.
Regards

"www.hotmail.com" and "www.handango.com" are sites I have experienced cannot be accessed in their full PC version. The PIE on the JJ takes us to the mobile sites.
Likewise a strange thing happens when I try to log into the "PocketPCDubai Forums". PIE starts to download the site page. I can see the progress indicator gradually move up. When about 180 Kb has been downloaded the progress indicator disappears meaning that the page has fully been downloaded. Nevertheless the page is blank and with nothing on it.
I also have tried to modify the registry to make the PIE appear as a full browser but nothing seems to work.
Regards

Has anyone had this issue and resolved it via ROM upgrade? I'd be ready to upgrade the ROM right away if I knew it fixed this issue. If not, I'd rather not waste a few hours setting up, reinstalling, and configuring everything.

Does Mozilla Minimo work on the JasJar?
If it does - I believe that might offer a more feature full alternative to the bundled pocket PC InternetExplorer Galt.
Hope this helps

Finally remembered the address that I used to use for Google when I had this problem on my Jam...
http://www.google.com/webhp
That wont redirect you to the /pda page. There are probably similar pages for other websites, but this is the one I used most!

This registry hack will make Pocket Internet Explorer identify itself as IE 5.5 on Windows 2000. However it will prevent web sites that provide Pocket PC specific content to be able to know you're actually using a Pocket PC
Change Pocket IE to IE Version 5.5 (For Secured Sites)
1) Go to the HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\?CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent\ key. 2) Set the default value to "Mozilla/4.0" (Default is "Mozilla/2.0"). 3) Set the "Version" value to "MSIE 5.5" (Default is "MSIE 3.02"). 4) Set the "Platform" value to "Windows NT 5.0" (Default is "Windows CE").
This will only work on some secure sites that check version number rather than perform a check for support of secured transactions.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry

Carnivor said:
Change Pocket IE to IE Version 5.5 (For Secured Sites)
1) Go to the HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\?CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent\ key. 2) Set the default value to "Mozilla/4.0" (Default is "Mozilla/2.0"). 3) Set the "Version" value to "MSIE 5.5" (Default is "MSIE 3.02"). 4) Set the "Platform" value to "Windows NT 5.0" (Default is "Windows CE").
This will only work on some secure sites that check version number rather than perform a check for support of secured transactions.
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Tried that, didn't work for me.
sub69 said:
Finally remembered the address that I used to use for Google when I had this problem on my Jam...
http://www.google.com/webhp
That wont redirect you to the /pda page. There are probably similar pages for other websites, but this is the one I used most!
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Tried that, although it loaded the main page (I think I had it cached from wifi browsing) it didn't let me search from there.
I finally upgraded my ROM to the latest 1.13.53 version and still couldn't resolve this with alternate URLs or registry edits. Any ideas, anyone? I'm using the T-mob USA cab settings from imate...

Redefining the Internet shortcut button

I have just taken delivery of my lovely new Exec so I apologise if this is a very basic question.
When you press the "e" internet shortcut button to the left of the space bar, internet explorer opens and goes to a specific address. Is there a way to edit that default address? I've changed the default home page and so if I select Home from the menu I do go to my preferred page. It's frustrating that that doesn't happen when I use the shortcut button.
Many thanks
David

search the registry for the site that you do go to (eg www.clubimate.com), change that entry for the site you want it to go to.
use resco registry or phm if you dont have it already.

remote record sky tv???

hi there.
on my last SE phones (k810i, k850i) i had this app installed so i could remote record on my sky+ box from anywhere.
link
i tried installing it on my X1, and cannot get it to work.
does anyone use a similar prog?
thanks

no-one?
can anyone suggest anything?

big pimp said:
no-one?
can anyone suggest anything?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372751 ?

big pimp said:
no-one?
can anyone suggest anything?
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I have also been trying this without success. I currently have two versions of the SKY+ Java software, one which works with the touchscreen one which doesnt. the touchscreen one always times out during connection whereas the non touchscreen one says "The data connection has failed" whenever I press the login button. The app itself seems very compatible and appears to fill the WVGA screen very nicely, however we will need someone who knows a little more about how to "point the the java app in the right internet direction" (excuse my non technical description, this is where my technical ability runs out ) the java emulator itself does not help much as it contains no options to apply to the app

I have it working great. Just install the JBED Java version and then install it from inside that. It only logs in when you have the Vodafone proxy disabled though.
It's great to have a 50 channel EPG!!

rob_h said:
I have it working great. Just install the JBED Java version and then install it from inside that. It only logs in when you have the Vodafone proxy disabled though.
It's great to have a 50 channel EPG!!
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could you please expand a little, how do you 'disable the vodafone proxy'? as far as I can tell that doesnt really make any sense! I really want to get this software working so any help you can give as to how you set yours up would be most appreciated, Thankyou

This worked for me:
Install Jbed attached above and use it to install the Sky.jar program.
On your Xperia go through:
settings
then select the connections tab
then the connections icon
followed by the advanced tab
Now chosse the select networks button and in the top drop down menu (the connection for programs which automatically connect to the net to use) and change it to "WEB" rather than "My ISP".
My ISP uses wap.vodafone.co.uk as an access point name via a proxy server.
WEB uses "internet" as an access point name without using a proxy server.
You do need to also do the following to get the service runiing:
1. Register for "my sky" at the sky website.
2. Add remote recording to the list of services runningon your my sky account
3. Activate remote recording on your sky box through its menu system
I've tested it out and I can access the 7day listing guide and send record instructions straight to the box (only takes 1-2mins).

Has anyone got this working on an o2 X1 - I don't have a "Web" option in my connections!

soupanoodle said:
Has anyone got this working on an o2 X1 - I don't have a "Web" option in my connections!
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The WEB is a Vodafone name. I know o2 work on the same type of system (web and wap) so if you list what's available we should be able to take a guess at which one you should be using.

Hi artesea, thanks for your response. I have just tried again.... the o2 X1 has a choice of My ISP or Work Internet - so selected Work Internet and bingo it all loaded at connected at last
Tested it and within five seconds it updated my sky HD box!!!!
Thanks all!

Hi,
Sorry for the slight change in direction in the topic but it is relevent (hopefully you guys will agree)
whats the difference between "My ISP" and "work Internet" other than one points to the providers proxy server? Im with o2 and have the unlimited web bolt on - is this only unlimited web as long as i go through the "My ISP" connection?
If not, I dont actually see the point in going through the ISP's proxy at all?
Cheers,
Craig

Both Vodafone and o2 have two types of connections, can't remember the exact names so I'll call them INTERNET and WAP.
They were set up back in the day when the internet on your mobile was WML files and not much else.
WAP would allow you to access the internet on your phone, mainly to the companies own portal (Vodafone Live! etc).
INTERNET was to be used by a computer connected to the phone via Infrared or data cable. The networks have compressors at their end to decrease the size of the files to make it quicker and cheaper (you might notice images look crap). Connecting over WAP wouldn't work.
Since then phones have got very smart, and networks are getting behind.
For example you can't access Vodafone Live! whilst using INTERNET, but then you can't access a 3rd party app on WAP.
I can see that some apps are being allow over WAP (google maps), however I've found it a lot easier to have everything running over INTERNET.
Not 100% sure if o2 will allow you to use INTERNET in your bundle, but Vodafone do.

Can someone post the Sky Remote Record java app? Or at least post a link where they found it. I have it working on my X1 but the program size is so small it is hard to read.

How do you get around the issue of logging in using an O2 X1? I have the app installed and can enter username and password but can't select login. I saw a suggestion was to map the left and right keys to volume up and down (think it was for a differernt handset though) but when in the buttons settings there is no options to remap these keys to volume.

The left and right buttons are mapped to Login and Exit already.
My problem is the network not found problem. Like hell I'm installing another Java. I did that with my old Polaris and had nothing but problems afterwards.

ZenithUK said:
The left and right buttons are mapped to Login and Exit already.
My problem is the network not found problem. Like hell I'm installing another Java. I did that with my old Polaris and had nothing but problems afterwards.
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But on my handset (and I know some other peoples) the login button (left softkey) does not function so you can't even login. It would appear that some people have a workaround for this, just wondering what that is.

after a bit of hair pulling i finally managed to get this to work at last.
I finally bit the bullet and de-vodafoned my device to the new R2A ROM (using SD card method - see other threads for more info).
I use AE Button Plus to remap the left and right soft keys to "hard" keys (select left key -> 3. Handle by AEBplus -> 1. single press -> 11. press left soft key. Same for right (soft)key). After hitting OK choose file then "save & exit"
This might help O2 users with the connection setup.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/sonye...bile_internet_settings_for_o2w850i_users.html
If you are looking for the two applications required then goto message #3 of this thread (thats on page 1) then click the link. Goto message #4 of the resulting thread for links to the applications

Help
I have reassigned the left and right key with AE Button Plus but still cannot login or exit via the keys?
Any help out there?

For me, the hard key to log in would only work when the keyboard is open. Odd, but gets around it and I can now at least remote record.
I have just assigned the buttons, so they always operate the softkeys, which is a bit annoying as I prefered one for rotate screen. Is there a way to only map the buttons within the Java app?

Thanks sebring
This appears to be the same for me.
Keyboard open and the reassigned keys work....really strange that.
Thanks again.

UK BT O2 internet settings

Hi,
I've searched but I can't quite hit upon the right combination of words to find the cab.
I have a Treo Pro, I bought it unlocked from and put in my BT-Vodafone sim for work. It worked well until they change to BT-O2. I put it in and now I have no internet.
I had a Tytn II with a network wizard that could configure the phone for any UK network, it was in a few of the cook roms also.
Does anyone have this in a cab for that I can throw on the phone?
Thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/search_rop.php?searchid=28092919
keyboard is
"uk AND o2 AND gprs" this is what you type in apart from the "'s of cause
in the search page
under
Search in Forum(s)
you mark only networking it forum
but you may have to settle for manual settings but in most cases one only really
have to set an apn so don't really require much skills

Internet Search defaults to Google.de

Hi,
I have my HD2 bought Sim Unlocked on UK 02
Ever since having it, it seems to randomly search on Google.de when searched from the google bar on internet tab on Manilla ( when on 3G) instead of google.com or preferably google.co.uk.
I'm not sure why this happens and would like to know if this is location based or dependant on registry setting
This has happened on Rom 1.48, 1.61 and 1.66
Any advice appreciated
Thanks

its definately a reg key but i dont know which one.

I thought a regkey seemed likely but found it strange that it defaulted to .de even on 3 different Roms. Originally I was on Voda ( different Phone ) but changed due to poor network Coverage. Never noticed it change to .de on Voda though?

Anyone with any ideas?

Preferences on google maybe? If you go to google.com you can usually set what language, country etc you want to search by default, and that gets stored in a cookie...

while we are talking about the browser, how can I change the opera mobile client, to get full desktop view for all the pages

mine dose that too so i set my opera home page to google.co.uk ans search from there, as i cant use the search from the internet tab !!

Is this on O2 - I've noticed that they're giving out German IP addresses
If you go to internetfrog.com you can check
took me a while to work it out!

The search box on teh internet manilla tab is hard coded, as far as I can see. I spent a while hunting through the registry with no luck. I'm with daddycool, just set a shortcut to .co.uk as a favourite and do my searching that way, forget all about the built in search box.

Thanks for feedback, yes it is on O2 and the comments now make sense!
At least i know I'm not going mad!

Audio Oblivion said:
its definately a reg key but i dont know which one.
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I dont know if this is what you are looking for (Noob Immunity) but: HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila and change the value of "InternetSearchURI" I was able to change the address to google.com but still doesnt work right. It sends it to "google.com(then types my search words here) sigh...

does anyone knows how to change the mobile client?
google seems to format the pages "because I am using a mobile"

mmmalas said:
does anyone knows how to change the mobile client?
google seems to format the pages "because I am using a mobile"
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Yes, in the registry find
HKEY Current User\Software\HTC\Manila
Look for the entry
Internet.Searchurl
and set it to the value
http://google.co.uk/search?hl=en-GB&output=html&q=%s
This will give you google.co.uk, and in HTML instead of mobile view.
The &q=%s is important, that passes the search query from the internet tab into googles search box, otherwise you just get the google homepage with no results.
if you want to get non mobile results from within opera, you need to set that within googles preferences, which will then save a cookie to your phone, and you will needed to do that whenever you clear the cache.