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i got mad and i punched my cingular 8125 and i need help.

hiya. i have a small problem. i got really mad and slammed my fist down on my cingular 8125.
when i hit it, the battery cover flew off but that's about it. i checked meticulously and i don't see any damage whatsoever, almost brand new, not dents...
but the STYLUS comes out a lot easier now then it did before. does anyone know what could have happened? what is the thing that latches the stylus inside the phone in the first place?
thanks a million!

Stylus gets loose like that normally anyhow. There is a small plastic catch inside near the top of the wizard (see the groove on the end of the stylus that it clicks onto) that becomes defective. Fixes are tape on end of stylus, bluetack or bit of plastic bag inside. Occ people have taken device apart but only for v. experienced - i use tape

thank you! i'm just surprised how it could go defective from hitting it when the unit itself appears undamaged.

I don't know how well this would work with Cingular but, some users from other carriers were able to get warranty repairs for that problem. Just don't tell them that you did it with your fist, OK ^_^

The 8125 doesn't have the stylus problem as far as i know, just the wiza 200's. This may be something else.

Screen Alignment Experiment Mystery

Try this:
1. Wait till the screen misaligns
2. Switch off device
3. Use a clean cloth and apply pressure EVENLY on the WHOLE of the screen (as if 'ironing' the screen)
4. Power on the device
My XDA Trion (HT626) re-aligns itself WITHOUT having to go through the screen alignment 'routine'.
How about yours?

hellogts said:
Try this:
1. Wait till the screen misaligns
2. Switch off device
3. Use a clean cloth and apply pressure EVENLY on the WHOLE of the screen (as if 'ironing' the screen)
4. Power on the device
My XDA Trion (HT626) re-aligns itself WITHOUT having to go through the screen alignment 'routine'.
How about yours?
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And how long you have to re-do again ? Or only one time for yours then no more misalignment?

hellogts said:
Try this:
1. Wait till the screen misaligns
2. Switch off device
3. Use a clean cloth and apply pressure EVENLY on the WHOLE of the screen (as if 'ironing' the screen)
4. Power on the device
My XDA Trion (HT626) re-aligns itself WITHOUT having to go through the screen alignment 'routine'.
How about yours?
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And how long you have to re-do again ? Or only one time for yours then no more misalignment?

Re
I don't know, here are my thoughts.
I am 99% sure that screen pressure will affect alignment - when I had misalignment, i used the stylus to press the screen in different areas, the contact point position will change in response to this, though i have no idea where it will change to.
So even if my method does have some effect, eventually the screen layer will 'loosen' again and you will have to 'press it back'.
The 'loosening' of the screen layer may be due to vibration, heat (from battery?), deficient screen etc.

a question a bit OT: how much time after the first start your TyTN had the mis-alignment of the screen? you found it also in the very first days of use?

whassup people
had the same problem..got the tynt yesterday..today have scrreen alignment issues..tried what u told me n works..
hopefully it will keep working
thanks

works for me too
I have had an m3100 for a month now and no screen problems until last week. getting more and more frequent now. 4 or 5 times a day at the moment.
sometimes just opening the keyboard and closing it again sorts it. sometimes just pushing the screen gently here or there sorts it. if I power off and run my finger around the perimeter of the screen that always sorts it out!
I have a screen protector fitted. is this a factor?
I think it maybe due to pressure on the casing when its in my pocket sending the screen out. I've never used the magnetic case and I've not tried the screw adjustment thing yet.
my problem is, is that i've flashed the rom so I not going to be able to send this back easily for exchange even though I have orange care.

daddyo said:
works for me too
I have had an m3100 for a month now and no screen problems until last week. getting more and more frequent now. 4 or 5 times a day at the moment.
sometimes just opening the keyboard and closing it again sorts it. sometimes just pushing the screen gently here or there sorts it. if I power off and run my finger around the perimeter of the screen that always sorts it out!
I have a screen protector fitted. is this a factor?
I think it maybe due to pressure on the casing when its in my pocket sending the screen out. I've never used the magnetic case and I've not tried the screw adjustment thing yet.
my problem is, is that i've flashed the rom so I not going to be able to send this back easily for exchange even though I have orange care.
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a most probable hardware issue, i have my lcd replaced and everything went pretty okay

I think.... HTC produces device while they're drunk... How was it possible? I'm a developer and after I finished to develop a software "I MUST" test it because if something doesn't work my boss become a T-Rex, and "I WANT" test it because in my opinion custom satisfaction is much more important then moneies.
Sorry for my poor english, I'm lerning it.
I am a disappointed XDA Trion owner.

Anyone with this problem try this out:
Open up the keyboard and flip the device over so you are looking at the back.
You will see two screws at the top of the screen on the rear. Losen them off a bit and retighten, but so that they are NOT AS TIGHT as they originall were.
See how you go.
I saw this mentioned here...apparently it can fix the problem for good. The issue is that the screws were overtightened at the factory and there is also a seal that runs out the edge of the screen. As the device gets used/warm the seal expands a bit causing pressure to be applied. If the screws are over tight then this impacts on the touchscreen causing the misalignment.
Try it...might fix it...

Need help[noobish]

I bought today p3600. I have however a small problem. I cannot unfortunately open the cover. therefore I can not use akku and sim card. I have fear that I make p3600 broken. i need a assistence, heelp!!
if anyone can send me some picture how to open the back cover of p3600
sorry for bad english, thanks to google
my msn: [email protected]

did you manage to open the battery cover? I have the same issue.
I must be blind, but I cannot find a way to open the battery compartment.

You slide the whole back cover up. You need to use some force, and you hear a click sound when it opens. No covers sliding of by mistake on this model

Thank you!
Finally I was able to manage. You do have to apply some force. As a first timer opening the Trinity's battery compartment, I was a bit scared, but after reading your message, I said: "let's go for it! if it brakes, I'll say it was defective" .

andreuroig said:
Thank you!
Finally I was able to manage. You do have to apply some force. As a first timer opening the Trinity's battery compartment, I was a bit scared, but after reading your message, I said: "let's go for it! if it brakes, I'll say it was defective" .
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LOL
I also had MAJOR problems opening my Trinity...glad I'm not the only one - it was a bit embaressing ;-)

Opening the Trinity
1. Remove the stylus. This helps.
2. Use the edge created to gently push up.
3. It slides only a very short distance (2 cm) to free the back cover.
4. NO pushing on the back cover like the Prophet.

Removing the stylus does help. Thank you.

Where do you put your fingers to slide up? Does the camera slide up as well?
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I found out how to open. thanks for the hints!

Glad you managed.
I think it is one of the hardest removing covers I've seen to date.

How to open the back of the HTC P3600 Trinity for battery and SIM
The HTC P3600 Trinity is a really great phone. But opening the back to put in the SIM and battery is really astonishingly difficult.
The first piece of advice I offer is if you bought the phone in a local store, go back and have a member of their staff do it! Even if it is a long drive! If it does break then they will be responsible!
But, like many people, I bought mine from an online merchant so that was not an option for me.
I regret it is difficult to provide a meaningful photo. But I hope the following description may be helpful to someone.
Ignore the very minimal directions in the user guide which simply refer to sliding the back open. This is misleading. No sliding is involved. The photo in the user guide also does not correspond to the actual back of the phone so should also be ignored. It is actually one piece of molded plastic that encompasses the entire back and goes around some of the sides too. There is no panel or section to slide or swivel open.
Also ignore the two little raised bumps low down at the back. They look like the back of the Magician. I initially expected to push downwards on them to slide the back off. Not so!
Unlike the Wizard there is no release switch, as there is no panel to open.
The back pops completely off by being levered directly backwards away from the front of the phone. Not up-down-left or right. Just directly backwards.
Like this:
|Back| <--> [Prise with force!] <--> |Front|
I recommend using a soft surface for your phone during this ordeal! Something like a big cushion or a sofa or a bed. Not a hard desk. This process will take both hands and your phone will need a soft landing if slips away from you!
The only notch to use for initial leverage is if you remove the stylus. I took out the stylus to make this notch accessible. I then used two spare Magician stylii to prise the back off. I used the handle ends, not the tips. First I placed the handle end of one stylus in the notch where the Trinity stylus goes and twisted it very hard to begin to lever the back open. Once a gap began to appear I forced the handle end of my other spare Magician stylus into the gap to hold it open. Then I found another gap to prise another place on the back open more.
By using the two stylii handles with considerable force I was able to work around the back of the phone until it popped off with a loud "clack". This was an uneasy and contradictory combination of force and care!
Fortunately, I managed to do this without damaging or denting any part of the phone. I was quite relieved as it was not easy.
It does seem the back is made of strong plastic which is sufficiently strong and flexible to stand this force! HTH.

I don't see how you people found the unit hard to open at all. You just push on the lip at the bottom of it while gripping the lip at the top front with your other hand. Took me maybe 5 seconds to figure it out.
Of course, I treat all my electronics like crap and am not gentle with them at all. You guys will have working Trinities four years from now, and mine will probably be at the bottom of a lake within a few months

mikesol said:
I don't see how you people found the unit hard to open at all. You just push on the lip at the bottom of it while gripping the lip at the top front with your other hand. Took me maybe 5 seconds to figure it out.
Of course, I treat all my electronics like crap and am not gentle with them at all. You guys will have working Trinities four years from now, and mine will probably be at the bottom of a lake within a few months
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Witty post, mikesol! I do hope my Trinity will be working 4 years from now... but I have yet to have a handheld last a full year! You may just have your brain properly engaged, unlike me!
To be honest, it was just really absurdly hard to open my Trinity the very first time. Now I can open it quite easily just as you describe. Actually, it feels like it even has the potential to get a bit loose if I opened it a few more times (so I will open again only when essential)
I'd guess some of them come from the factory with the back on really, really tight. Perhaps yours had just enough give to make it a bit more apparent which way to pull? There was absolutely no give in mine any way I moved it first time around. It really would not have come off the way you describe that first time. Of course my fingers are puny and frail!
How do you like the phone?

different method
hi there,
I bought the p3600 yesterday in HK and first had the same problem. And because some of the methods described in this thread are definetly impossible with my model, I would like to present you my way of opening the back cover.
It really slides up. So take the p3600 and put it with the display to the hand in your left flat hand with the buttons on the side where your arm should begin.
Take your other hand and put it in the back of the p3600. you now should look like a Chinese in a temple.
Move/slide now your right hand up in the direction in with the fingers point. use some force. Thats it! I open it this way.

stucki said:
hi there,
I bought the p3600 yesterday in HK and first had the same problem. And because some of the methods described in this thread are definetly impossible with my model, I would like to present you my way of opening the back cover.
It really slides up. So take the p3600 and put it with the display to the hand in your left flat hand with the buttons on the side where your arm should begin.
Take your other hand and put it in the back of the p3600. you now should look like a Chinese in a temple.
Move/slide now your right hand up in the direction in with the fingers point. use some force. Thats it! I open it this way.
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From what I gather here (this is a fantastic example of google translation!!! ) I think this "new method" is exactly like what was described by mikesol above. The running theme here is that you must use force to get the unit to open. Also, it is definitely a sliding motion from bottom to top - do not pry it off as has been suggested earlier! I think the camera confuses people (it looks like you need to lift the cover off around the camera - but the whole camera circle comes off as part of the back cover).
I think we can put this one to bed now.

absolutely the hardest cover to remove, but thanks to you "trailblazers" i was able to remove mine without destroying it.

I did my way
HTC Trinity just arrived. Same battery cover problem. Tried to follow advice in this thread but my big, sweaty hands could not gain enough leverage on the extremely shiny casing, to slide the back cover up. My fingers just slipped off. So here is my method. To slide the back cover up you press up (or away from you) on the bottom edge of the back casing and press down (or towards you) on the top edge of the front casing. The top edge of the front casing is maybe 5mm wide, rounded and very difficult to push against, for me at least. My method involves bracing this top edge of the front casing against an immobile hard edge while you push up on the back casing with your fingers. The immobile hard edge I used was a wooden chopping board braced against the wall. To make sure it pressed only against the top edge of the front casing (and not also against the top edge of the back casing which would stop the back casing sliding up) I used a book to next to the wooden board to raised the Trinity to the right height off the work surface on which everything rested. So....I placed the Trinity face down on the book with its top front edge braced against the edge of the adjacent wooden board and used my fingers to press upwards (towards the wooden board) on the bottom edge of the back casing. The back casing then slid relatively easily. Job done. Its not easy putting this into words. Hope someone can make sense of the above and finds it helpful.

Overlapping Sliding Case

Hello,
Recently whenever i close my case on the vx6800 it overlaps now. When its open and i look at it from the back i notice that there are two metal like pins that also move with the opening and the closing. Has anybody had any experience with this problem? Its a minor problem but VERY offsetting.

when i had an issue with overlapping i found out it was one of the stoppers. Basically if you look at the tracks the phone slides along there is two little metal pins on each one that stop it from going so far. the plastic had broken and the piece had fallen out, resulting in the overlap. my phone was less than 3 months old so i took it in for warranty. my quick fix while i was waiting to take it in was hot glue gun. i put a dab in then took an exacto knife and trimmed it down.

Yep, sounds like a rubber bumper fell out if it is a very slight overlap.

Thank you for the replies. I'm going to try a quick fix because i really do not wnat to go through the hassle to downgrade SPL to undo my ROM to turn it in. I guess I'll see this through. I'll post my results if any

[Q] Phantom touches/unresponsive touch screen - only when the back cover is on

So I've been using my N7 on and off since I bought it in January. I would've used it more if it wasn't for the fact that the touchscreen responded really bad to touch and freaked out every now and then. It even almost bought an app on its own in the play store once. As I bought it through a retailer in another country I figured I would try to fix the problem myself - and I did kind of.
I tried a lot of things that people suggested in other threads here on xda, reddit, youtube, etc. but the only thing that seemed to work somewhat was tightening the screws around the edges after opening it up. The problem still persisted to some degree and got worse again after a few weeks.
After opening it up again a few weeks ago to fiddle around with the screws again I realized something - the phantom touch problem was gone and the screen had perfect response whenever I was handling it with the back cover off. So I put it in a case without putting the cover on first and I've been using it like that ever since - this leaves the wifi/gps/etc. without a grounding connection though, and I also prefer to use it without a case so my question is this:
Has anyone had the back cover apply pressure/mess with the touch screen in any way?
I have no screen lift at all, but these are the methods I have tried:
Tightening screws(worked somewhat)
Loosening screws(didn't work)
Putting a small piece of paper between the black cable that apparently connects the touch screen and the circuit board in case it was causing a short there due to pressure or something(didn't work)
Additional info: Whenever I remove the back cover, the only place where I have to apply some extra pressure to get it loose is right around where the aforementioned black cable is.

erikkr said:
So I've been using my N7 on and off since I bought it in January. I would've used it more if it wasn't for the fact that the touchscreen responded really bad to touch and freaked out every now and then. It even almost bought an app on its own in the play store once. As I bought it through a retailer in another country I figured I would try to fix the problem myself - and I did kind of.
I tried a lot of things that people suggested in other threads here on xda, reddit, youtube, etc. but the only thing that seemed to work somewhat was tightening the screws around the edges after opening it up. The problem still persisted to some degree and got worse again after a few weeks.
After opening it up again a few weeks ago to fiddle around with the screws again I realized something - the phantom touch problem was gone and the screen had perfect response whenever I was handling it with the back cover off. So I put it in a case without putting the cover on first and I've been using it like that ever since - this leaves the wifi/gps/etc. without a grounding connection though, and I also prefer to use it without a case so my question is this:
Has anyone had the back cover apply pressure/mess with the touch screen in any way?
I have no screen lift at all, but these are the methods I have tried:
Tightening screws(worked somewhat)
Loosening screws(didn't work)
Putting a small piece of paper between the black cable that apparently connects the touch screen and the circuit board in case it was causing a short there due to pressure or something(didn't work)
Additional info: Whenever I remove the back cover, the only place where I have to apply some extra pressure to get it loose is right around where the aforementioned black cable is.
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Hmm, have you checked the N7 under a florescent tube light? You should try to view the light's reflection on the n7's screen. It should be 'mirrored perfectly'. If the reflection of the light is crooked/bent, this means your screen is no longer flat. Ie. A flat mirror should show your reflection as it is. A curved mirror will distort the reflection.
If the screen is heavily distorted, this could mean the touch sensors are also 'bent' and touching the screen internals.
Check the reflection with cover on, and also cover off.
If with the cover off the n7, the screen seems to be 'flatter'. Then we could conclude the screen is fatigued by stress somehow by the attachment of the covers. If it somewhat same, then the problem is something else.
Since the cover provides ground points for the n7 circuit and it's antennas, maybe you should try cleaning the contact points on the cover side. There should be grooves made by the contact pins from the n7 on the cover, over time they might oxidize and cause a short circuit.
It is possible the touch mechanism is not being properly grounded somehow.
PLEASE BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL if you are going to clean the contact pins on the n7 side, they are small and very brittle.
Try to see if anything on the cover is touching the circuit board or creating a short circuit somewhere when installed.
These are the 2 causes i can think of. I had this problem too, i loosen some screws and re-check under a florescent light to see it's reflection, and i re-loosen or tighten until the reflection is nearly perfect (screen should be flat and reflecting like a mirror), if not it is bent by stress from screws being too tight or loose at some points.
Then i also cleaned the contact points and pressed the aluminum 'heatsinks' on the n7 side to make sure they dont contact anything else. I did both the same time, following by a switch in ROM and Kernel. So i'm not sure which actually helped. I'm sure i took some stress off the screen by the reflection thing. The grounding also makes sense as an intermittent ground causes stuff to f-up (my car) lol. But you may try n see how it goes. Cheers.