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Pocket Plus and Xda II Lockups (1.66 ROM)

We have noted some strange locking up of our Xda II's over on the MTekk forums requiring a hard reset. We have a number of threads running at the moment but the main one is here.
I have been in touch with Spb about this and they inform me it is actually an HTC and MS issue. Below is their email response.
Hello David,
We do our best to fix this problem ASAP. We work hard with HTC and
Microsoft now on this problem.
But this problem occurs not only with Spb Pocket Plus but with other
programs too.
We have feedback from HTC and Microsoft about that (sorry, I cannot
disclosure more
details since it is information obtained from our partners).
So I am not sure we will be able to fix it in Spb Pocket Plus - probably
HTC will fix it in their ROM.
Spb Pocket Plus does not use any undocumented functions that can cause
such behavior.
Probably we will disable running Spb Pocket Plus on these devices at all
until HTC fixes this bug in ROM
Pocket Plus 1.x is not available online now but I can send it to you if you want via e-mail.
If you bought Pocket Plus 2.x and can't use it, you can always ask for refund.
If you have any questions, please, don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Margarita Bochkova
Customer Support Team
Spb Software House
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
Phone: +7 812 324 49 44
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It appears as though this issue could also be happening with version 1 of Pocket Plus on the 1.66 ROM (and some 1.72 ROM's too).
Thought you guys might like to know. Generally I find Spb products to be good, but it appears as though Spb are being blamed for this issue. I think this email help point the finger in the right direction.
Dave

Hi djwhyte
This is some strange stuff as I've been running Pocket Plus 2.0 for a few months and have recently installed 2.1 (just for the hell of it I think its only a VGA update from what I can see)... but have not had any problems on my XDA II before, hear are my details of my device if this helps:
ROM Version: 1.66.00WWE
ROM Date: 02/20/04
Radio Version: 1.08.00
Protocol Version: 1337.18
ExtROM Version: 1.66.165
The only thing I could think that I MIGHT be doing diferent is that I do not use the today screen pluging (I use all other features like repeating allarms and task mannager!) At the begining I did use the today screen and do not recall any problems as well I've taken it off because my today screen was getting to cluttered with other software I am running.
Not sure if this is going to help you but have to tired installing Pocket Plus with NO other applications installed after a hard reset? It might be a conflict with other software or even a totaly other product causing the problem? Not sure hope this can help you!
Regards
Fudge!

Pocket Plus 2 is installed in my wife's XDA2 with 1.66rom. its almost 3 weeks now and so far no problem. my XDA2's rom is only 1.60.

Hey thanks for info guys.
I will have to try without the today screen pluggin and see if makes any difference.
Boybi, your wifes Xda II which is on the 1.66 ROM, does it have the today screen plugin enabled?
Dave

is the Today Plugin the one where you can put battery and memory bars, and put some icons? if yes, then its enabled.

i too am having problems with the spb pocket plus v2.1 using xda2 with 1.66WWE ROM version. i get hang ups and the unit would do a hard reset. good thing i always do a backup of the contacts and appointments!

aside from Pocket Plus, what other Today Plugins can you guys recommend?

I was wondering what was the lockup caused by. I uninstalled the SPB GPRS and SPB Pocket Plus and now it's ok. No more lockup. I had to hard reset, but couldn't initial find the problem until the trial expired, weird. I guess that's why I bought it.

I find GPRS monitor is OK!!
I have a feeling the Today plugin is the cause as I have had no such crashes since I installed it again with the today screen disabled. What part of it I don't know though.
Boybi, which icons, sliders does your wife have enabled on the plugin?

One thing to note on this, is that SPB update their software silently and don't tell ya about it.
So get the latest build of PocketPlus and try again.
Cheers

my wife's XDA2 just locked-up today! can't turn it on even using soft reset. so i think its really the Pocket Plus! now i disabled the today plugin.

Ooooh Sorry Boybi, I hope I didn't curse you but that sounds like the lockup.
I have been running sweetly for three days without the Today screen plugin for PP2. How long did your wife have the Today screen showing before it locked up? Days? Weeks?
Cheers,
Dave

Possible LOCKUP?
DJWHYTE,
im using pocket plus ver 2.1 on a 1.66 ROM XDA II, just installed it 24 hours ago, no problems so far.
All featured ITEMS enabled, Today Plug-in, File Explorer enhancements, Pocket IE enhancement, Looping Alarm, etc..
Im very disturbed by what I just read in this thread, although I have experienced 1 LOCKUP, it happened while SPB Pocket Plus was NOT YET installed.
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers

Re: Possible LOCKUP?
chameleon said:
DJWHYTE,
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers
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With my previous 1.66ITA it worked for about 3 months without troubles (PP 2.0 first and 2.1 later) .
After the upgrade to 1.72.04ITA no chance to install it anymore; it freezes and the only way out is hard resetting. :evil:
Spb team says that they are working on it... hope so, otherwise I will claim for my money back. :evil: :evil:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:

Re: Possible LOCKUP?
dave said:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:
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Good, now I can sleep better knowing my XDA 2 will still turn on tomorrow when I wake up. Thanks DAVE.
Any other observations out there?
I may DREAM better if there are, hehehe.

my wife's 1.66rom XDA2 runs with PP2.1 for 2 weeks without any problems until yesterday.

maybe other apps?
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.

I too have had the problem
Ever since I installed the Spb PocketPlus ver 1.x and onward I have had that problem. It occurs rarely but often enough to annoy me (1-2 times/month). It seems to make no difference if I disable the Today screen. I have removed it now. I don't have much other software on it, except for Destinator 3 and a painting program. I won't return to PocketPlus until the issue is solved.
Johan

sbp
The italian localized 2.1 will not work on the 1.72 ROM, to make it works you need to install the 2.0 and after it the 2.1.
No problems at all

Re: maybe other apps?
chameleon said:
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.
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ito lang mga nakainstall:
1. spb pocket plus 2.1
2. pocketzenphone
3. sprite backup 3.0
4. sprite pocketmon (today plugin disabled)
5. uBook
the memory card i have ordered for my wife's XDA2 just arrived that's why i haven't installed a lot of programs in her unit.

Problem. My screen's screwed in today view

Hi, first of all, i want to thank you all. I've just bought a s100 and have learnt very much of you.
My problem is that after installing spb pocketplus, my screen gets screwed up, it looks like it doesn't refresh the screen info. I hard resetted it but again, having pocket and contactbreeze on today, i got the same problem when viewing contacts in today.
Could it be a cleartype problem? Anyone had this problem?
Thanks and regards from spain,
jshooter

I had this problem once, with the same programs installed. The Today plugin wasn't refreshing even after few soft reset.
I solved it by switching the Today theme to something else, and then switching back to the previous one.
It worked.
Hope that will help you!

Thank you SO MUCH!
It worked, so I've installed spb too. Now, my today shows messages, spb and pocket/contactbreeze.
Anyway, is it normal or am i doing something wrong? i don't care if i have to swith themes once a month, but once a day???
Thanks and regards, my next goal: pocket hack master

Hi jshooter,
Do you have SPB Pocket PLus version 2.5 installed? I have it and there is no problem at all. Do you have any software that might be messing around with the today screen apart from SPB Software?
Try to use only spb software on the today and then gradualy add other plugins and detect is one is faulty.
Regards

Hi,
yes, i have 2.5 plus version, and first time, it was my only today plugin. Last time it occured (yesterday), i have only pocket and contactbreeze, so i don't really know what the problem is. Anyway, i'll try to live with that, i love my new s100! (apart from this and the sound quality, that is so so)
Thanks and regards

Simple skin (nokia like)?

Hi!
When I upgraded to the new HTC Artemis I let my wife inherit my Magician, but she is not that in to PPC, so the question is:
Is there a skin suit (WisBar Adv Desktop or something) available that could make the phone more like a "normal" cell phone? She does not realy need all the fancy suff, but she uses tomtom, media player, SMS, MMS, Phone, Contacts, Calendar, IE, phonealarm profiles and phonealarm MMS, SMS, missed call notifications.
Preferably all functions should be available from today screen as large icons.
PK

Seach for the Orange today plugin. Make it looks very much like a normal phone (that's why I don't use it )
Link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276425
I've tested it on my WM5, not sure if (it should) work on WM2003

hanmin said:
Seach for the Orange today plugin. Make it looks very much like a normal phone (that's why I don't use it )
Link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276425
I've tested it on my WM5, not sure if (it should) work on WM2003
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Thanks!
This is just what I'm looking for, sadly it does not run on PPC2003SE :-(
I guess the same thing could be made as a WisBar theme, maybe it already is, but just hard to find ;-)
PK

You might just want to look around for any old thread/forum/post that has this Orange plugin. As Orange does have a Magician release that has that today plug-in (eg they DO have a plugin for 2003). Good luck.

paalkr said:
Is there a skin suit (WisBar Adv Desktop or something) available that could make the phone more like a "normal" cell phone?
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The answer to your question is in your question itselft - Wisbar Adv Desktop.

zerimar said:
The answer to your question is in your question itselft - Wisbar Adv Desktop.
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Hi!
Yes I know, but I'm looking for a skin to the WisBar adv desktop software pack.
PK

I'm not sure if this helps, but if you were to use cLaunch to set up the Today screen .. 'nicely', you may able to make it looks simplier. Take a look at the iPhone cLaunch skin here. Note: cLaunch maybe a bit troublesome to setup.

hanmin said:
You might just want to look around for any old thread/forum/post that has this Orange plugin. As Orange does have a Magician release that has that today plug-in (eg they DO have a plugin for 2003). Good luck.
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Hi!
I have looked all over XDA and used Google, but don't mange to find it! Can anyone pleas post the CAB? I can’t find the ROM on the FTP either.
PK

Newsland

I always used AvantGo on my old PPC, so wanted something similar for my Exec. I found Newsland on MS's website (yeah, I know, I deserve everything I get) and it had some good reviews.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work, and the website I'm supposed to register with is no longer in existance. The only site I can find is in Russian.
I thought "Stuff it" and tried to remove the software. I used settings>remove on the Exec. It has gone from the program list, but the software is still there. I tried removing it through Activesync, same result; gone from the program list, still on the Exec. I've tried a soft reset, it's still there, taking up room. Any ideas?

Newsland Remove
Hi,
I think the following is happened:
The Today screen plugin of Newsland was still active wen you tryed to remove Newsland. What you need to do is, try to install the software again, and when this is done deactivate the today plugin. Than remove the program again. After that you can look with the File Explorer and look at Program Files if the map Newsland still excist's. If so, you can delete it!
Hope this helps,
Cheers Leo

Does this mean AVantGO does not work in our Universal? Any other alternative to get NEWS REPORT on our Universal?

@cktlcmd
Hi,
If you want to use a good newsreader!
http://garishkernels.net/egress.shtml
For me this is the best, tried Newsbreak and SPB Insight but this one is much faster and better designed.
Cheers Leo

Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
If you want to use a good newsreader!
http://garishkernels.net/egress.shtml
For me this is the best, tried Newsbreak and SPB Insight but this one is much faster and better designed.
Cheers Leo
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Thanks. I checked the site. I do have a question. Does it support landscape view on our Universal? All the screen shots I saw were portrait view.

Landscape view
Hi,
Yes it does, I love this app, works smoothly!
Leo
cktlcmd said:
Thanks. I checked the site. I do have a question. Does it support landscape view on our Universal? All the screen shots I saw were portrait view.
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Thanks very much.

Thanks Laurentius26, I'll try it now.
To the person asking if AvantGo works - it does work, just fine, in landscape or portrait. Just go to the AvantGo website and download the latest version. Annoyingly, it insists on syncing through it's own software rather than going through Activesync, and it seems slower to upload than it was on my 3 year old RX3715.
Still, it does the job just fine. I wanted to try something a bit different, so I may have a look at the other suggestions.
Edit - worked like a charm. Thanks again.

Some questions and problems with Touch HD :)

I got my Touch HD a few weeks ago and I must say its a helluva upgrade from my old Qtek 9100 :up:
I have a few questions/problems here:
Im used to using Today Agenda on my 9100 so I wonder if there is a way to edit TF3D so I can see lots more calender days on the home screen of TF3D? I also wonder regarding this, I would like to edit the TF3D home screen so its more optimised so the calender takes most of the space. Or is there a way to get Todays Agenda to work with TF3D? Im really missing all my calender stuff cause it isnt shown days in advance.. Damn I missing lots of birthdays since I got the Touch HD =)
Another question, is there a way to get the TF3D task manager icon in the right upper corner always show? Now it only shows now and then, would be much faster/effective if it was always there (aside from fullscreen programs that is)
I would also like to be able to remove the Operator information at the top of the TF3D home screen, it just feels unnecessary and just takes away space from my "want to be there" calenders
EDIT: got some new questions now
I cant get email to work, I type in my login information for Windows Live, the same as I always use when I logon Messenger and Hotmail and they dont work in the Live in the Touch HD, what can be wrong?
I want to be able to hear digital radio stations and I cant get anyone to work. Since the built in radio SUCKS, very hard to get a decent quality so I want to listen to swedish radio on teh intarweb instead
I tried different kind of streaming, none works :/
here is a few Ive tried:
http://www.sr.se/sida/artikel.aspx?artikel=2260956&programid=2321 (swedish Im afraid)
http://www.di.fm/
www.htchradio.com
Ive tried Coreplayer, Built in Media Player and Streaming Media. I cant get it to work... Anyone got any ideas?

Anyone? Seems like everyone else gets all their streaming stuff working

noone to help with more calender days on the home screen of TF3D? It's really a big issue to me.

same for me! Thats a big part of having a smart phone /PDA, that you can have full control of your calender and see in 20+ days whats happening...

Try "Second Today" for "Today Agenda"
I used the "Today Agenda" program before
and it's a good software.
To keep using it, I install "Second Today" program
for it. It helps to enjoy the pros of TF3D & "Today Agenda"

AH perfect! It works like a charm :up:
I can finally have lovely Todays Agenda and with another wallpaper to! :drool:
Thank you very much for suggesting this