Why are there so many for sale - advertised new and going for about 70 euros.
Is there a problem with them.
Do they need to be unlocked.
I was going to buy one at that price as a spare/to try mods on.
Steve
I have one for sale if you are interested, it has been opened, but all items are still sealed and un used. £380 (Boxed & Mint condition) if you are interested, I live in Bedfordshire, the unit is unlocked and contract free.
Sound suspiciously 'Nigerian' no me.
If it's too good to be true & if it's on ebay.....
say no more, don't be a mug UNLESS YOU'RE 10,000% SURE!
Andy
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Put it this way, you won't get a BUST one for under 140 quid (and i'm NOT including the marked up postage costs). Without a box in good working condtion, £300. Boxed & Mint, >£400, so go figure at 70E.
I got mine Bust for £80 - dozy tosser mislisted it - ha my bargain. 1/2 hour later fixed the damn thing. Friggin mint condition t'boot.
BTW, I'll bet my bottom dorrar that the seller is Chinese....
And I'll place another bet, I bet the listing will won't last long....
hollytree said:
Why are there so many for sale - advertised new and going for about 70 euros.
Is there a problem with them.
Do they need to be unlocked.
I was going to buy one at that price as a spare/to try mods on.
Steve
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A new universal for 70 euros... mmmm i'll have ten units please; unlocked or not...
It is probably a scammer selling these 'items' under someone elses account.
I got mine on Ebay for 420 pounds. I'm in australia and you'd be lucky to get it for 600 pounds here. works like a charm. of course AFTER i upgraded with the JasJar ROM and burnt O2's software
I bought one on eBay for GBP 414, but the seller reneged -- he said he could not get the phone from his supplier. I quoted him eBay policy on selling items that are not already in possession of the seller. He was apologetic, and said this is the first time it's happened (his feedback shows previous Universal sales which were successful). He has a 99.7% feedback rating, with 358 positives and 1 negative from long ago. He said he's going to refund me, but has to wait for a bank transfer to clear PayPal, since he already transfered the money out of PayPal. Sounds suspicious. But I have PayPal buyer protection (for what it's worth), and I used my credit card. I will give him time, and if he still doesn't refund, I'll go through the non-selling seller process.
So I bought from a different seller for GBP 431, and I am waiting for it.
So many of these Universal auctions say "opened only to inspect" or "opened only to test", that it sounds suspicious.
Also, many of them say "unwanted upgrade", as if they were mailed a free phone and just want to get rid of it. Does O2 mail free Universals as upgrades?
Don't buy Universals on eBay unless the seller has 99+% feedback > 100, and the auction is covered under the "Free PayPal Buyer Protection". Look at their feedbacks, and what they bought/sold earlier. Pay with PayPal, and use a credit card as the funding source.
'free' at £75/month, min term 18months.
So if you consider £1400 free, then yes, they're 'free'.
Anyway, rules of ebay are:
1) It's a sellers market
2) Don't be greedy or you'll get a deserved bite in the ass
3) Supply & demand rules the roost.
4) research research research
5) READ FEEDBACKS & APPLY A BIT OF NOUNCE!!!
Hunt around for mislisted items - takes time but jeeeez the bargains I've scooped! Hence:
6) You put the effort in, you get the rewards out.
Andy
I had a look at those 70Euro Universals.
Seller from overseas? Check
Selling price way too low? Check
Seller doesn't take paypal? Check
1 day auction? Check
Seller's username appears randomly generated? Check
New seller account with feedback of around 10? Check
Feedback comments all left in a very short time interval? Check
Feedback comments brief and unlike genuine feedback? Check
Feedback left by 10 feedback, randomly generated usernames? Check
Initial bid from 10 feedback, randomly generated username? Check
So it rates 10/10 on the scammometer! But what the hell - bid on it anyway!
ROFL! :lol:
Yep, came across one of these & was about to flag it as a scam & as I was looking, it got removed!!!
Andy
spv-m5000 unlocked
gd day all i have them for you shippin via ems from israel to worldwide
spv-m5000 brand new unlocked
450 gbp + 15 gbp shipping
send me a private message if you want
Tried to sell mine on ebay a couple of times now , each time some idiot ruins the auction - so not sure who to trust now
I see these posting all the time for all sorts of high priced electronics. They are so easy to spot really if you follow the guidelines people posted above.
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So many of these Universal auctions say "opened only to inspect" or "opened only to test", that it sounds suspicious.
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IMO neither of those are suspisious. It means i have a better chance of getting a working unit. And just because someone got a free upgrade and does not state it does not make the listing any more legit.
I sold a spare XDA Exec on ebay which i acttually got as a cheap upgrade but not free. My wife prefers her existing phone. I knew it had a good chance of going out of the UK so for me to not check it would be madness. I wanted to list it as Sim Free i could not do that without physically checking. Plus i could not list it as working if i did not know that fior sure.
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Also, many of them say "unwanted upgrade", as if they were mailed a free phone and just want to get rid of it. Does O2 mail free Universals as upgrades?
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Yes this does happen a lot. O2 want to keep your business so at the end of your contract you are eligble for an upgrade to tie you up again for 12 or 18 months. They look at your history and if you have spent a lot of money with them on calls you get lots of offers. The more you have spent the better the offers. A lot of people are happy with there existing phone but know they could make a lot of money selling the new one.
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Tried to sell mine on ebay a couple of times now , each time some idiot ruins the auction - so not sure who to trust now
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Yes this is another bad problem with ebay. You have the option to remove bidders and to cancel the auction early to the highest bidder. You can only do this up until 12hrs before the auction ends. When i sold mine i waited to just before the 12hrs deadline and accepted the highest bidder i considered genuine based on their location and feedback that had an agreeable price for me. I was not out to make as much as i could get but just a fair price.
This worked well for me.
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I see these posting all the time for all sorts of high priced electronics. They are so easy to spot really if you follow the guidelines people posted above.
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See what postings?
So many of these Universal auctions say "opened only to inspect" or "opened only to test", that it sounds suspicious.
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IMO neither of those are suspisious. It means i have a better chance of getting a working unit.
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But it could be being used to sell a unit as "new" while hiding that it was "used".
And just because someone got a free upgrade and does not state it does not make the listing any more legit.
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???
(You probably meant "any less legit", but it still doesn't make sense. I said that they do state that they have an unwanted upgrade, something which sounds suspicious because it seems to be hiding something else. "Oh, I'm just selling this because it's an unwanted upgrade. I won't tell you anything else about it though.")
I sold a spare XDA Exec on ebay which i acttually got as a cheap upgrade but not free. My wife prefers her existing phone. I knew it had a good chance of going out of the UK so for me to not check it would be madness. I wanted to list it as Sim Free i could not do that without physically checking.
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All Execs are unlocked AFAIK.
Plus i could not list it as working if i did not know that fior sure.
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I always offer refunds on DOA equipment. Be sure to write down the serial number and put it in the auction, or someone might trade their defective unit for yours.
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Tried to sell mine on ebay a couple of times now , each time some idiot ruins the auction - so not sure who to trust now
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Yes this is another bad problem with ebay. You have the option to remove bidders and to cancel the auction early to the highest bidder. You can only do this up until 12hrs before the auction ends. When i sold mine i waited to just before the 12hrs deadline and accepted the highest bidder i considered genuine based on their location and feedback that had an agreeable price for me. I was not out to make as much as i could get but just a fair price.
This worked well for me.
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You're missing out on the sniper bids by ending early, but as you say, you weren't out to make as much as you can get.
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I believe the german market units are providor locked. But don't quote me...
Richard
Hi,
I got my Vodafone V1640 for 330 GBP on eBay.
The seller accepted PayPal but anyway I spent a few days worried about not getting the phone.
It took 4-5 days till I received it.
Unfortunately it is locked to Vodafone UK and I want to use it with Vodafone Portugal.
No luck till now for the unlock code...
Cheers
I have over 900 + feedback on ebay and I always buy from those who have Buyer protection if its over £100. Bought my exec back in dec/jan this year from a guy who had 2 for sale for £385. The first had a screen calibration problem as if it'd been dropped. Sent him an email and he promptly sent me his other one just as soon as I sent him the first back. Since then absolutely no problems.
Also I always mention when selling that any1 with less than 5 + feedback will have their bids removed. I make sure I'm logged in for the last minutes of the auction in case I get sum1 with less then 5 feedback messing around. And I sure have had to cancel a few bids in the last few minutes. HTH
Consider this
£378 will buy a XDA Exec direct from O2's site brand new.
This is £150 for the XDA & 12 * monthly cost of £19
(which includes 50 anytime mins per month.)
Puts some of the £400-£500 Buy it Now deals in perspective.
Well in the UK at least.
Related
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9109255243
Good luck
Q.
greetings !
My name is Jehal kangoosariam , I would like to pay £70, 000 for your item by western union - I am buying it for my brother in Nigeria as a pancake day present ........ :lol:
seriously mate - just tried to sell mine on ebay and got so much crap it was unbeleivable ! gave up in the end
Good luck though (and be careful ! )
Ha ha! So true.
I have already had responses from people such as this ... a jumble of words so random and bizarre as to have surely been run through google's translation service and then read out into a bad speech recognition program by a Guatemalan goat herder with a slight hunch and a hare lip.
Thought I would post a reminder! I always forget to bid on auctions and therefore don't win. Only 3 hours left to bid for your chance to be a winner! Don't miss out!
Hi there - hope the auction goes well - how did you unlock it - or was it unlocked by default?
Aution won by a new user with no feedback - good luck with that... :wink:
Cheers,
Steve.
Hi it was unlocked by default.
Oh ye of little faith!
It was bought by a charming lady in London.
Who wanted it shipped to her husband.
In Nigeria.
It's legit right?! :roll:
Scam the Scammers
I read about this guy who sold his powerbook, and it was bought by an obvious scammer. He sent a big woden block with POWERBOOK written on it and old keyboard keys stuck on it, and posted it to the guy in nigeria, claiming its value as $1200. Of course, the guy who received it gladly payed the 20% import tax on it from customs and excise, as well as the $50 recorded delivery cost. I honestly suggest you do the same, shaft these low-lifes who waste our time
Also, in the auction, block buyers will -1 or less feedback...
a few weeks ago i sold a iPAQ hx2110 ob ebay. Not for bidding, for "Buy-now". Who boughts it? An Australien who wants me to ship to Nigeria.
Is there anything you can sell on ebay without selling it to these damn bastards of the nigeria connection???
Hope you sell it the next time to a "real" buyer!
I suppose, if they pay for the goods, then does it matter where you send it? The key thing is that they do actually pay. One other problem is that if they use PayPal with a stolen credit card, then apparently, the funds can be withdrawn from you at a later time - not nice at all. I think PayPal should be more rigorous about that sort of thing and take responsibiliy in that situation. Some hope.
Cheers,
Steve.
just create your auction, using a BUY-IT-NOW with immediate payment only, that way they have to pay you in order to close the auction. I've used that each time I've sold any electronic item since someone tried to scam me when I sold a mobile phone a few years back. Never had any problems since
I have a project where I will be porting an application (VB and SQL) to WM5.0 and the target is expected to be an O2XDA Exec, Orange SPV M5000 etc... Universal??
Anyway I am trying to figure out if these are dodgey at all but there seem to be plenty of new O2XDA Exec on ebay with prices way below what the same units would/should cost from O2 et al without contracts.
I expect a few members might have bought from ebay??? so asking what peeps views are.
The sellers always seem to have 20 or so units but everything is anonymous and seem to have to part with money in advance and cannot do this in person so more than a bit cautious.
I am going to need a couple for development and testing.
Regards,
Dom
Universal from Ebay
I bought my brandnew O2 XDA Exec from Ebay for less than 2/3 the price you would pay for it from any 02 shop. No problems at all
OP, you've just described Ebay as whole ;-D
I suppose it's like everything else on that site: sometimes you get a good deal, sometimes you get burned. Personally I had good and bad experiences on Ebay, just like any other 'ad board' site or magazine.
EDIT: check out this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53525&highlight= for a cautionary tale...
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elkitos said:
I bought my brandnew O2 XDA Exec from Ebay for less than 2/3 the price you would pay for it from any 02 shop. No problems at all
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From an individual or a trader outlet?
Sorry to ask but these are not cheap enough to make a mistake.
Regards,
Dom
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OP, you've just described Ebay as whole ;-D
I suppose it's like everything else on that site: sometimes you get a good deal, sometimes you get burned. Personally I had good and bad experiences on Ebay, just like any other 'ad board' site or magazine.
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Ditto, why I was asking. Don't want to get burned for £500 and no XDA's.
Found what seemed to be a good deal at about 2/3 (£280) of the RRP (£400 ish) from one ebay trader. I wanted to exchange cash in person and all of a sudden it wasn't possible and there was this reason and that reason why they couldn't... all sounded far too dodgey to me.
BTW it was someone from O2 shop that said look on ebay when I said I just wanted the phones without the contract.
Dom
I got my MDA Pro from eBay for £250. It was brand new and sealed, I am very happy with it.
You have to be very careful when you buy from eBay.
Always email the seller and ask if you can collect and pay cash. If they refuse then ask yourself why? Maybe its dodgy - sometimes it maybe genuine.
Also check their previous selling history - if they have never ever sold any pdas/phone and suddenly they have 20 PDA's for sale then be careful - usually very dodgy.
Good Luck...
On the matter of refusing to accept cash to be fair I suppose I'd be the same. When you bet on something it clearly tells you how the payments are accepted: usually paypal.
Personally if someone bought my 500pounds device and wanted to switch the payment mode to cash right after winning the option, the alarms bells would be ringing too. I'd probably just say no and explain the above but some people don't like saying no and rather make crappy excuses instead... in which case the alarm bells would then be ringing in the buyer's ears this time round...
From an individual.
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On the matter of refusing to accept cash to be fair I suppose I'd be the same. When you bet on something it clearly tells you how the payments are accepted: usually paypal.
Personally if someone bought my 500pounds device and wanted to switch the payment mode to cash right after winning the option, the alarms bells would be ringing too. I'd probably just say no and explain the above but some people don't like saying no and rather make crappy excuses instead... in which case the alarm bells would then be ringing in the buyer's ears this time round...
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Oh wasn't before winning, insisted on emails with bidders before he would accept any bids from you. Would cancel bids otherwise.
It looked like he had the items as a fixed price and would sell direct just not through ebay and so no ebay protection etc... why I asked face to face and cash.
Regards,
Dom
what kinda apps r u gona be porting?
I am porting amateur radio logging, prediction and rig control software(last one a bit of a non-starter as these do not have USB host and not sure can get rs232 connectivity working).
There will also be some additional Oracle, sql2000 and sql2005 monitoring apps written using VB .net
Regards,
Dom
I bought my O2 XDA Exec from Ebay, Paid $650.00 for it new in box and have had no problems with it. The seller was UK based and I live in the USA.
Well, my contract with O2 was up for renewal a couple of months ago and I said that I wanted my PAC code as I was going to switch to Orange as I wanted a Universal. In the end O2 said I could have a new O2 Exec for FREE on a O2 500 tarrif for £25/mth. Of course I accepted.
Dom,
I got a refurbished Vodafone V1640 from a business seller on ebay for £240! It came with everything in its original box. The only flaws were a small scratch on one of the hinges (stated in description) and a little polarisation flaw on the screen (NOT stated in description, but it's not too much of a problem). Overall I think I made a good purchase.
I ordered one from www.expansys-usa.com last Tuesday. They told me that it would arrive the next day. Then they told me that it would ship out on Friday, then Monday (today), then Tuesday (tomorrow). Now they're telling me that they wont get any more in until the first week of December. What's going on? I just want to buy a phone. Any place overseas have them IN STOCK that they want to ship to me?
Try clove technology
and search here for them too. I think people are satisfied with their service!
Ofiaich
ebay. there's 2 people there that have them in the u.s.
You can try ebay.com.au. They do delivery to worldwide, but the warranty is only in Australia.
eBay has a couple sellers with them "In Stock". Mine has yet to ship from one of these sellers. I suggest using Microsoft Live! cashback if you purchase through eBay. Last time I checked 25% back was still available for Buy It Now PayPal purchases (US Only).
there are over 100 units from various sellers on Ebay USA, some claims to be in stock.
Would ya'll trust something like that coming off eBay?
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Would ya'll trust something like that coming off eBay?
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Provide you pay by paypal, there is a 20,000 buyer protection program, subject to a relatively small admin charge. I won't worry about it.
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Would ya'll trust something like that coming off eBay?
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y not?
i've never had a problem buying something on ebay. check feedbacks and pay with paypal for protection
try clove technology; that's who i purchased mine from and so did several others on the forum. whoever you go with, remember that the phone WILL HAVE to clear US Customs so make sure the seller has completed all the paper work! the most important item to include on the customs paperwork is the FCC ID!
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try clove technology; that's who i purchased mine from and so did several others on the forum. whoever you go with, remember that the phone WILL HAVE to clear US Customs so make sure the seller has completed all the paper work! the most important item to include on the customs paperwork is the FCC ID!
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I second this. I bought it from Clove Technology in UK. They shipped my device overnight as promised. It got delayed at US customs due to some paper work. But when I communicated to Clove about this, they filled it out and sent me a scanned copy via eMail and I sent the same to FedEx by Fax and it got cleared and got it delivered the next day.
Unfortunately, I got a defective device. My phone was not recognizing the SIM card. I tried everything, and its just the hardware problem. I contacted Clove... they asked me to ship it back. As soon as they received it, they shipped the replacement the same day. I got mine this morning.
I am sure they have enough units with them, since they sent my replacement device right away.
- Clove you owe me a discount on my next purchase...
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Absolutely, if the seller is networkingrus! I've purchased two touch cruise's and and HD from him, and his act is really together!!! Or... you can check out his website. He's not as cheap as some of the other places, but his service is top-notch!
Everyone always says Clove, but no one ever give their website... so here it is... www.clove.co.uk. These guys are cheap, but I can't vouch for their service or integrity.
Happy trails!!!
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I've used eBay for many gray market phones. Its a good choice. Some sellers are excellent. Just check feedback, read descriptions, and use PayPal.
Inkino
I used Inkino for my HD purchase. I found it on the "approved" list from the HTC site. Very good price and shipped really fast. I called them once to confirm an address and they were exceptionally nice and friendly. It was my first time using them. I recommend them.
I'll second networkingrus on ebay...I got mine through him and the service was top notch I emailed him over the weekend to verify his stock and he replied right back. It shipped that very next business day.
Right guys, I have received my FIFTH replacement HD2 today and I'm not even going to open the box, it's for sale. So what would a brand new, sealed box HD2 - on the O2 network - be worth on the market? I see they can be had unlocked from Play.com for £499 with free delivery and the ones on Ebay are probably used and messed around with, so I think mine is worth more than they go for....any ideas?
Will be worth less than that if it's got an O2 ROM I think its safe to assume, also O2 HD2's appear to be locked according to one of the threads on here
How come you're simply not accepting it from O2 and cancelling the contract? I assume that if you sell it then you have to continue paying for it till the contract runs out.
Brand new sealed HD2's are going for between £380 and £450 on ebay, with brand new ones that are not sealed going for a touch less. However, most have been around the £400 mark. I have been watching intently over the past week as wanted to buy one.
The cheapest I could find on the internet was £469.99 on offer from eXpansys. However, on sunday I was out having a coffee with my wife and popped into carphone warehouse on the off chance they might have a HD2, and see if they'd price match.
Much to my amazement their price for a brand new factory sealed SIM free HD2 was £449.95, so I got out my credit card and bought it there and then. My iphone 3G 16GB is now up for sale on ebay to recover some of the cost of my HD2, and then in6 weeks time when I'm due an upgrade I'll sell that as well. I was just too impatient to wait for my upgrade
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How come you're simply not accepting it from O2 and cancelling the contract? I assume that if you sell it then you have to continue paying for it till the contract runs out.
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Due to the number of replacements I've had, I'm now over the 28 days and therefore can't cancel my contract. If I purchase a different handset with the proceeds from the sale, that can be my 'contract' phone if you like. Sure I'll still be tied to the original contract but I'll have a phone so it will make no difference.
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Due to the number of replacements I've had, I'm now over the 28 days and therefore can't cancel my contract. If I purchase a different handset with the proceeds from the sale, that can be my 'contract' phone if you like. Sure I'll still be tied to the original contract but I'll have a phone so it will make no difference.
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Getcha. Sounds like O2 win here though, despite not being able to supply you with a satisfactory handset. I'm sure if it went as far as court then you'd win, but who's gonna go that far for a phone?
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Will be worth less than that if it's got an O2 ROM I think its safe to assume, also O2 HD2's appear to be locked according to one of the threads on here
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Yes, they are locked apparently. O2 unlock them free though, if you email them. Can take up to 28 days. I don't want to open the box and unlock the phone because then it would be classed as 'used'. If anyone wants to unlock it there is no problem doing so...
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Getcha. Sounds like O2 win here though, despite not being able to supply you with a satisfactory handset. I'm sure if it went as far as court then you'd win, but who's gonna go that far for a phone?
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Exactly. What's the betting this phone sat here in the sealed box is *perfect* too.
Hi - this is true - i placed the other forum thread "HD2 locked" - i got my unlock code last night. Turns out that mine was obsolutely brand spanking new and o2 hadnt generated the code to unlock it - the previous owner/ebayer put in a request for the code (it took about 3 weeks) - i am now unlocked!!
@Sunking,
You decided on a price yet?
WB
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@Sunking,
You decided on a price yet?
WB
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Nope, got any ideas? I was thinking around £430 but I'm not sure if that's too lo-ball.
It's probably too high ball if you ask me. You've got three things in your way:
1. It's branded to O2 (yes, it's easy to unbrand and customise now we've got HSPL but it's an additional step and it's a negative)
2. It's sim locked to O2 (you'll have to request an unlock code from O2 and it takes about 2 weeks - but crucially you seem to have to use your O2 registered sim you bought the device against to get the correct code)
3 - Anyone on O2 can buy the exact same thing as yours for £365
May I ask what issues you have had with the phone? I've got one from O2 myself (only one) and have not noticed anything amiss.
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It's probably too high ball if you ask me. You've got three things in your way:
1. It's branded to O2 (yes, it's easy to unbrand and customise now we've got HSPL but it's an additional step and it's a negative)
2. It's sim locked to O2 (you'll have to request an unlock code from O2 and it takes about 2 weeks - but crucially you seem to have to use your O2 registered sim you bought the device against to get the correct code)
3 - Anyone on O2 can buy the exact same thing as yours for £365
May I ask what issues you have had with the phone? I've got one from O2 myself (only one) and have not noticed anything amiss.
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£365? Where??
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£365? Where??
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O2 haven't publicised this very much, but an existing O2 contract holder can buy one SIM free for £365 (in fact it was £277 for the 1st day, by mistake!)
Not all shops or call centre staff know about it, and some say it is business customers only, but that is incorrect.
We had a thread on it Here but no posts in the last week!
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O2 haven't publicised this very much, but an existing O2 contract holder can buy one SIM free for £365 (in fact it was £277 for the 1st day, by mistake!)
Not all shops or call centre staff know about it, and some say it is business customers only, but that is incorrect.
We had a thread on it Here but no posts in the last week!
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If the shops don't know about it and the call centre staff don't know about it, I'll expect it's a tall order to purchase one at that price then. So basically my brand new HD2 is worth (much) less than a used one on Ebay....
id probably say 400 at the most for it
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If the shops don't know about it and the call centre staff don't know about it, I'll expect it's a tall order to purchase one at that price then. So basically my brand new HD2 is worth (much) less than a used one on Ebay....
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The spoiler for most people is that you have to already be in an O2 contract. I suspect those that do know about it are selling on at the 'normal' Ebay price
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The spoiler for most people is that you have to already be in an O2 contract. I suspect those that do know about it are selling on at the 'normal' Ebay price
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Yeah but I want to do a buy it now....can't be watching the price go up to £44,000 at the end of the auction because some idiot scammers have decided to ruin it! I was just trying to get an indication of what price to set.
There are two for sale on ebay both at 360, one is still sealed and one isn't.
Doesn't seem like there is much difference with sealed and unsealed. Although the sealed one is locked to T-Mobile.
any tips? anything specific to look for?
if new, then look for descriptions that say the phone is sealed in box, if its just new in box but not sealed then it could've been used and just repackaged to look like new
if used then always look for actual pictures of the phone in the posting, make sure you read what condition the phone is in (scratches or anything) and how long it was used for
the phone should run you anywhere from 350-450
PS: Bought 2 new sealed vibrants off of ebay one for 420 and other for 430
ld006 said:
if new, then look for descriptions that say the phone is sealed in box, if its just new in box but not sealed then it could've been used and just repackaged to look like new...
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That is excellent advice to minimize buyer's risk, which is why phones in that state command a higher price than just "mint" phones in excellent condition. (Like a new car depreciates immediately when you drive it away from the dealer.)
Also, note that eBay has a Buyer Protection Program to help resolve disputes, and it is in eBay's own interest to guard the integrity of its marketplace. That does not mean they guarantee your satisfaction or even that the phone will function properly. But eBay will guarantee that the merchandise shipped meets the seller's advertised description, and "New, Sealed in Box" is an objective standard.
As a buyer I once bought such an advertised phone that did not fit that description as-delivered, and the seller was not cooperative in resolving the problem. So I had to escalate the issue to eBay, which found in my favor and saw to it that my money was refunded when I returned the merchandise. Actually, that's the closest I ever came to being burned on eBay. I think it is less risky than buying from a Craigslist seller.
I paid 350 for a 2 weeks old one (barely used) with the original box & accesories, all in perfect condition. What a sweet deal!
Check the seller's rep. I wouldn't but from anyone with fewer than 40 sales and a 98% pos rep.
Just my .02
Ebay is great, until you need to talk to them on the phone because of a shady seller!
gonintendo said:
any tips? anything specific to look for?
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I really don't want to scare you off ebay, however, with a purchase like this, I would do my ebay research very carefull.
You need to know the truth, the truth is, if you run into a problem, you will have tons of difficulty contacting ebay via phone.
I ask you to do 1 simple thing for me, just 1. Try to find an ebay phone number, search their site, search google, try to find a phone number to talk to a human being. Now, if you are able to find a phone number, call the number, see if you can get through to a human being. It took me almost 3 weeks to find a phone number, I litterly called about 20 numbers all of which were fake, old, no longer active, or put me through loops.
Finally, if you do have a problem, such as you paid for the product and didn't get the item, be ready for another saga that can last a very long time.
I've had a case open with ebay for nearly two months, supposedly ebay had decided in my favor, and I was due a full refund. Guess what, ebay never issued me a refund, the case still says open, 2 months now, no refund.
I would procede with caution, and only use paypal.
But, I beg of you, take my little challenge, try to find an Ebay phone number from their site, then if you eventually find one, see if you can get someone to pick up on the other end.
Good luck.
Always pay with PayPal. Any disputes with the seller, PayPal will back you up. They have a buyers protection program. Look it up on their website. By the way, you dont need a Credit Card to use PayPal, you can link it to your bank account if you prefer to pay cash.
SamsungVibrant said:
I really don't want to scare you off ebay, however, with a purchase like this, I would do my ebay research very carefull.
You need to know the truth, the truth is, if you run into a problem, you will have tons of difficulty contacting ebay via phone.
I ask you to do 1 simple thing for me, just 1. Try to find an ebay phone number, search their site, search google, try to find a phone number to talk to a human being. Now, if you are able to find a phone number, call the number, see if you can get through to a human being. It took me almost 3 weeks to find a phone number, I litterly called about 20 numbers all of which were fake, old, no longer active, or put me through loops.
Finally, if you do have a problem, such as you paid for the product and didn't get the item, be ready for another saga that can last a very long time.
I've had a case open with ebay for nearly two months, supposedly ebay had decided in my favor, and I was due a full refund. Guess what, ebay never issued me a refund, the case still says open, 2 months now, no refund.
I would procede with caution, and only use paypal.
But, I beg of you, take my little challenge, try to find an Ebay phone number from their site, then if you eventually find one, see if you can get someone to pick up on the other end.
Good luck.
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I agree with the poster...to a point. Ive been anebayer for years.
Ebay number? I googled it:
http://contact.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCUPortal&guest=1
Its on the ebay website. Called it too . Current and valid. Long wait time though
I never trust the disputing system on ebay. Slow, almost like they dont care.
However ebay golden rule:
unless you Really truly know/trust the seller....
always pay with a credit card (not visa debit) and using paypal.
Paypal are very quick to deal with fraud/issues and very favorable to the buyer usually (I know, I sell and buy a lot ! ).
Paypal are good if you use a credit card because they are afraid of chargebacks.
Buy from sellers you trust. A good thing to do is simply ask the seller before you buy! They are human too....and if they seem legit (good reason for selling, give you an accurate description of the phone), by all means buy!
I've bought and sold on ebay (internationally):
* logitech mice
* Logitech Keyboards
* Three laptops
* Diamond 1
* Diamond 2
* N82
* N95
* Nexus One
* HTC Desire
* Samsung Captivate
I've had issues but theyve all been resolved on paypal/ebay.
Just my $0.02 and in no way an endorsement or bag-out of anyones comment or services
Oz
I've learned my lesson never to buy anything used that is expensive and mechanically or electronically complex. Good luck with whatever you choose to do!
I've had Good Luck with Craigslist
I've purchased 2 Vibrants and a HTC HD2 from Craigslist.
All three were in next to new conditions and I'm very happy with my purchases. I was able to inspect the phones BEFORE putting up my money. I also require the seller to sign a receipt and provide ID before making the purchase. Can't be too careful in todays world.
I paid $300 each for the Vibrants and $250 for the HD2.
verify that the phone is not stolen. Request the IMEI number from the seller and call T-mobile up to check if the device was ever reported as stolen. I think there is also a website where you can check the IMEI # for its validity....not sure how accurate that is though
ozy944 said:
I agree with the poster...to a point. Ive been anebayer for years.
Ebay number? I googled it:
http://contact.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCUPortal&guest=1
Its on the ebay website. Called it too . Current and valid. Long wait time though
I never trust the disputing system on ebay. Slow, almost like they dont care.
However ebay golden rule:
unless you Really truly know/trust the seller....
always pay with a credit card (not visa debit) and using paypal.
Paypal are very quick to deal with fraud/issues and very favorable to the buyer usually (I know, I sell and buy a lot ! ).
Paypal are good if you use a credit card because they are afraid of chargebacks.
Buy from sellers you trust. A good thing to do is simply ask the seller before you buy! They are human too....and if they seem legit (good reason for selling, give you an accurate description of the phone), by all means buy!
I've bought and sold on ebay (internationally):
* logitech mice
* Logitech Keyboards
* Three laptops
* Diamond 1
* Diamond 2
* N82
* N95
* Nexus One
* HTC Desire
* Samsung Captivate
I've had issues but theyve all been resolved on paypal/ebay.
Just my $0.02 and in no way an endorsement or bag-out of anyones comment or services
Oz
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ummm that link you provided seems to be for australia.
could you possibly post the working number, so we can call and verify it works.
thanks
SamsungVibrant said:
ummm that link you provided seems to be for australia.
could you possibly post the working number, so we can call and verify it works.
thanks
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Sure,
Maybe ebay has different policies for Australia...go figure...
If in Aus: 1800 088 741
If overseas: +61 2 8288 0199
Have you tried live help? It has an approx wait time of 15 mins, works only with internet explorer but it is a real live person on the chat line and theyre usually very helpful.
Didnt mean to sound like I was dissing you, I just havent had the same sort of experience that you have and I've been using ebay since I was a mid teen! (I'm in my early twenties now)
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-T-MOBILE-Sa...Cell_Phones&hash=item3cb0e36719#ht_500wt_1154
what do you guys think of this? he claims it's new but there's no box.
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gonintendo said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-T-MOBILE-Sa...Cell_Phones&hash=item3cb0e36719#ht_500wt_1154
what do you guys think of this? he claims it's new but there's no box.
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Home-made photo.
Definitely seems legit. I thought the vibrant only had 2gb built in and 16gb on card.....should clarify that.
The price is a bit steep for a used vibrant with no box. I'd watch it but keep looking around at the same time.
Check this one out , http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...68431&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_1286wt_916
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thanks guys. i really appreciate it.
ozy944 said:
Home-made photo.
Definitely seems legit. I thought the vibrant only had 2gb built in and 16gb on card.....should clarify that.
The price is a bit steep for a used vibrant with no box. I'd watch it but keep looking around at the same time.
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a microSD-to-SD adapter, and a 2GB microSD card -- provided more to bundle the movie Avatar than to supplement the 16GB that's already on board.
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from engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/...ew-shootout-captivate-for-atandt-and-vibrant/
I usually assume new w/o box is stolen or just a used phone they're trying to pass off as new.