Does any one know of SIO devices that can be used with the Universal?
Thanks
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by SIO, but there are some "Bluetooth to RS232" devices on the market.
And the Universal has USB slave abilities.
And the Universal supports SDIO, where there is a whole lot of different devices.
I have yet to find a SDIO SIO device..
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Well, I'm not sure what you mean by SIO, but there are some "Bluetooth to RS232" devices on the market.
And the Universal has USB slave abilities.
And the Universal supports SDIO, where there is a whole lot of different devices.
I have yet to find a SDIO SIO device..
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I got your point. Irt was a typo. I did mean SDIO devices and was hoping for some examples.
thanks 8)
Well, there are cameras, 56k modems, GPS antennas, WLAN cards, barcode scanners and VGA adapters..
Many of those are made by Sandisk..
Many of these are of course not very useful for an Exec owner, but some might be..
Google should give a lot of products..
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I have a XDA II and I would like to use it very much as a remote controler but unfortunately its port appear to be not compatible with the IR signals needed to work with common remote controlers, so I came up with a crazy idea and would like to know what you have to say.
I also have an RC500i from Marantz that has just stop working and I am about to retire it.
I also have Total Remote from Griffin that I already discused here, it can´t be used for learn because the module only transmit. This way it is almos useless, but I like the software and the module design.
I was thinking...
I could take the IR led (the one used to learn) from the Marantz and substitute from the one inside the XDA II, this way I have the possibility to learn but not transmit, but since I can use Total Remote to transmit this will not be a problem. The fact that I will not have anymore the capability to comunicate with other PDAs is also not a problem because I rarely use it.
With all this in mind I would like to know if it work that simply or if it is much more complicated because of technical insues.
What you think about this?
Thanks a lot
Felipe
Its not the LED that does the learning its the hardware/firmware attached to the led as far as I know, so changing them over will do nothing.
You won't get IR working on an XDA I/I/IIs or clones without additional hardware support.
The Griffin Total Remote is one such device, but the location of the XDA II headphone socket, and the need for a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter make it a pain in the *ss to use.
Griffin TR can learn from other remotes, but the learning function uses the standard IR port, not the dongle. I have one which I use occasionally, but mainly now on an old Ipaq due to the socket arrangement. It learns basic functions well, but advanced functions seem not to transfer.
I'd wait for the NoviRemote Blaster to appear for the PPC next year- it uses an SDIO based transmitter.
Neil,
It appears that you are in the same situation as I am, because I also have the TR installed on my XDA II but it can´t learn at all so it is useless! To make things even more unsatisfield I got a pretty bad technical support from Griffin. So I am still looking for a way around.
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You won't get IR working on an XDA I/I/IIs or clones without additional hardware support.
The Griffin Total Remote is one such device, but the location of the XDA II headphone socket, and the need for a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter make it a pain in the *ss to use.
Griffin TR can learn from other remotes, but the learning function uses the standard IR port, not the dongle. I have one which I use occasionally, but mainly now on an old Ipaq due to the socket arrangement. It learns basic functions well, but advanced functions seem not to transfer.
I'd wait for the NoviRemote Blaster to appear for the PPC next year- it uses an SDIO based transmitter.
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i had wintv working without any problems with my xda1
and i had noviiRemote working without any problems on my xda2
with no extre hardware
range is not very good and you really need to hit correct to make it work but it does work
Felcas- Yes I rmember now, I could not get the XDA IR to learn- I did the learning on my old Ipaq, then copied the files across! The ergonimics still make it unusable though!
Rudegar- point taken about Noviremote, but with such short distances its easier to lean over and push the hardware button on the TV!
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Felcas- Yes I rmember now, I could not get the XDA IR to learn- I did the learning on my old Ipaq, then copied the files across! The ergonimics still make it unusable though!
Rudegar- point taken about Noviremote, but with such short distances its easier to lean over and push the hardware button on the TV!
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Thanks!!! You gave me a good solution. My girlfriend have an Ipaq 5550, I will install the TR on her PPC do everything I want and then copy to the XDA II
Felipe
about giving it a longer range
http://www.pdawin.com/irtranceiver.html
http://www.smarthome.com/8220A.html
would not advice people adding things internaly to the xda's it would likely be a bad idea
Has it USB host functionality to attach e.g. a hard drive?
Would be interesting to know
Regards,
Rainer
since universals cpu is PXA27x.....(272),then it has a USB host functionnality...and if u are wondering...then yes...this means that u can connect ur HDD to it,and guess what....it's the first HTC device with USB 2.0,so imagine!!!!!!!
RAGO :lol:
Great news!!! Makes me wanna get this device even more
So you want to carry a big device around and then an external hard disk drive! Seems a bit over the top for something to do your phone / email on.
But isnt the USB on the MDA IV mini usb? How do normal usb devices work on a mini usb port?
Magician has also an Intel PXA272 but as far as I know USB-Host isnt working. If it works please correct me.
Lets hope that USB-Host will work on Universal.
Has anyone tried USB-Host on Universal yet?
Btw is there another cable needed (are other Pins of the 5 in the MiniUSB Plug used?) or just an adapter for the end of the USB-Cabel
Has anyone tried USB-Host on Universal yet?
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the device have been been released yet so unless people here
get early samples to review i dont think anybody have tried it yet
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No time or kit handy to test I'm afraid.
I got sent some info that claimed the Universal does have USB host (from someone claiming to have one for testing but is under NDA) - but nothing confirmed or proved.
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
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Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
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I didn't say that ONLY PXA27x have USB hosting functionality,and am quite sure ur right concerning the iPAQ and the Axim.... :wink:
"PXA27x CPUs have USB host functionality",said Intel:
"Does the Intel® PXA27x family processors support USB Host in addition to USB Client?
Yes, the Intel® PXA27x family processors, supports USB HOST and Client (Rev. 1.1 compliance) and USB On-The-Go (OTG). "
Read this http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/faq/pxa27x_faq.htm#usb
Still...untill the Universal is released and fully tested,all we are saying remains theories :wink:
untill then.......
greetings..
RAGO :lol:
A bit extreme though and I find it hard to accept that we need a USB client for the device. I mean what's next, having ActiveSync installed in the Universal and have other handheld devices sync in it as well? Weird...
Still the idea seems good...
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dgpurvis said:
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
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I didn't say that ONLY PXA27x have USB hosting functionality,and am quite sure ur right concerning the iPAQ and the Axim.... :wink:
"PXA27x CPUs have USB host functionality",said Intel:
"Does the Intel® PXA27x family processors support USB Host in addition to USB Client?
Yes, the Intel® PXA27x family processors, supports USB HOST and Client (Rev. 1.1 compliance) and USB On-The-Go (OTG). "
Read this http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/faq/pxa27x_faq.htm#usb
Still...untill the Universal is released and fully tested,all we are saying remains theories :wink:
untill then.......
greetings..
RAGO :lol:
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Er... what?! I'm not sure you read my point at all...!? I said nothing about whether other processors have USB host or not - I'm not at all sure why you think I did?!
I simply pointed out that PDAs with the PXA27x processor don't always make use of its USB host functionality. In your original post you appeared to suggest that the presence of the PXA27x would mean the Unviersal definitely has host functionality - I was correcting that.
BTW - don't assume either that the Universal has USB 2.0 - I've not seen a single report that it does - and though the PXA27x does support it - only one Pocket PC with that processor has, to date, implemented it.
Remember - the XDA IIi has a PXA272 processor - and has USB Client 1.1 only and no USB host.
No answer yet?
Come on people!
Surely, there are several testers on this forum already..
Why haven't you tested this yet?
who are the testers?
i havent seen any
but then i'm a bat
well one problem with testing i guess is getting the cable
guess it would need usbA or B depending on the type of usb mass storage controller in one end and a universal connector in the other
if no such cable came with the device then
maybe people would have to make the cable themselvs
usb hosting
Well dudes, I sent an email to clubimate techsupport asking them about usb hosting capability, still waiting for an answer... maybe if enough people email them, they will take notice and put it in their faq or whatever...
greetings
Nabil H
I tired on my JASJAR and didn't work...
At least JASJAR has the usbd.dll and usbhid.dll.
i will try tonight
mda pro -> mini usb -> mini usb -> creative Zen micro Mass storage 5 gig
i've already tried this.
jasjar-miniUSB w/ USB A-USB A-B gender changer-USB B->external harddisk.
nothing happens
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nothing happens
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Can you connect a keyboard and tell us
what will happen ?
Edit: I'm not a microsoft expert, but if there
is a background program like activesync that
forces the port to slave mode, then nothing should
happen.
I don't remember its name, but this program
should be killed.
Hi out there, am I able to get monitor mode to work on HTC Universal? I still have no device but i'm thinking about to buy one Universal or Zaurus C1000. What I need is monitor mode for penetration testing. If injection is available, it's nice but not a "must have". I will use Linux on the Universal, to make it paly together with the rest of my annoying grey boxes. If the integrated WIFI does not, does anyone know if monitor mode works with one of these sdio wifi cards? Or is there another way, to stick external wifi devices to the Universal (maybe usb or cf)?
On wiki there is written, that the Universal uses the tnetw1100bg wifi chipset.
I found this one on net:
http://www.rootr.net/man/man/acx/4
Do I understand this right, that, if i'm using Linux with acx-driver, monitor mode will be available to the Universal?
very very interesting can someone test it?
Linux on the uni doesnt have SDIO and unlikely to have it for a while due to driver implimentation legal issues. hope this helps.
why do we need sdio wifi card,cant we use universal onboard wifi?
Well SDIO cards were mentioned, just ruling them out at this stage.
SDIO was just an idea if Universals onboard wifi doesn't work. but due to the link i've been posting, i still hope, it will work (not for injection, but monitor mode will). I hope someone will test it.
You Can Monitor And Inject With Linux On Universal Using ACX Kernel Module And AIRCRACK-NG Toolset.
great, this is all i was wanted to read. Now I'm going to buy me one universal. I hope I can come back to you with questions if i have problems to set up the device.
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You Can Monitor And Inject With Linux On Universal Using ACX Kernel Module And AIRCRACK-NG Toolset.
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How does one do this?
seattleweb said:
How does one do this?
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Disregard this... I was running an older kernel and have since upgraded my install to one with a 2.6.21 kernel
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Exactly!
Very interesting: exactly for the same target I will buy an HTC UNi too.
So, that can be our topic: two penetration tester, one topic, and HTC Universal
DOMy
Does anybody know if it is possible to connect the phone to a USB hard drive?
only with flame and Athena as they are the only ones which support usb host
other devices cant use usb devices only be used by usb hosts normaly a pc
There was actually someone who developed a working hard disk storage driver for windows mobile but last I checked the site no longer offered it. Searched for days trying to find the file elsewhere. No luck. Cant think of the company that made the driver.
I'm bumping this as I am also after the same sort of program / utility.
I want to be able to access my External HD and view / play files off it... anyone able to help me out?
Maybe with a external powersupplied disk
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only with flame and Athena as they are the only ones which support usb host...
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Correct
Our Hermes has no usb host support. I found a topic at forum.brighthand.com which suggested the host functionality could be added with a usb host driver. I found the software (attached zip) but alas... Though I did exactly as the 'manual' (readme.txt) explained, the usb-stick did not appear in my explorer.
Possibly an external drive with external power supply might work because the hermes usb port is simply not powerful enough to supply the power to the usb-stick. However I did not "explore that possibility" (don't have one ) and chances are 'just a driver' is not enough and hermes lacks "usb host hardware".
dident read the post because you dident give a link to the post just the forum
but i doubt that it's a general thing
many pda's have usbhost in the cpu itself but htc never connected those connectors
so it's not wired to the connector they have their own usb chip
so if the post you read said it about any other pda then htc based one it could be that that manufactor did connect the usb but dident supply the driver which would then be fixed with what you found
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many pda's have usbhost in the cpu itself but htc never connected those connectors
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Sounds like there could be the potential for a hardware hack...
heh, nice try. but it will end like GPS HW hack on the TyTN (aka Hermes). it is not worth it, I mean there is easy way, just buy device with GPS integrated, or buy external. I have electronic skills and proper tools, I can do such things but it is too complicated. in that hermes was problem, that antena was not properly connected and you can never get a GPS lock. I guess that with usb host is the same. missing circuitry.
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Sounds like there could be the potential for a hardware hack...
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Yepp!
Hi,
this is correct
sinmae said:
heh, nice try. but it will end like GPS HW hack on the TyTN (aka Hermes). it is not worth it, I mean there is easy way, just buy device with GPS integrated, or buy external. I have electronic skills and proper tools, I can do such things but it is too complicated. in that hermes was problem, that antena was not properly connected and you can never get a GPS lock. I guess that with usb host is the same. missing circuitry.
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The USB host port of the Samsung CPU is used to connect to the internal GSM/GPRS chipset. So no chance to break it up!
If someone would ever hack this hardware part, the result would be a hermes without radio.
The engineers at HTC used the USB host port to achieve the necessary bandwith for high speed data connection to the GSM/GPRS chips from Qualcomm.
Best regards,
scholbert
thats an interesting information, thanx
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The engineers at HTC used the USB host port to achieve the necessary bandwith for high speed data connection to the GSM/GPRS chips from Qualcomm.
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Do you know what devices supports USB host?
as far as I know: no ;-)
Athena, flame and shift
USB Host built in... !?
I have read most of the posts related to the USB Host thing...
Everytime i must read such things like that the Tytn has no hardware that supports USB-Host...
But Samsung says, that the CPU and Chipset has built in USB-Host AND USB-Device Ports...
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=229&partnum=SC32442
So the statement that its hardware cannot do USB-Host is not true.
If the CPU and Chipsets has built in USB-Host Functionality, the Hardware-Ports in the Chips (i think) have to be used at the USB-Interface at bottom of the Tytn.
So at end, it has to be only a Software Problem to support USB-Host Functionality directly at Tytn...
Anyone who can follow my Ideas, or do i have an error in my thinking?
the usb functions of the cpu is not used there is another chip which handle usb for htc devices
even if the cpu support host non of the connections are passed on to any connctor
So is my Question, why should they do such irrational things ?
Why use another additional Hardware (at additional costs!!), if the already existing can do the functions ?
If they really do that, they must be mad... throwing dollars out of the window and make the product more expensive than it can be.
Its like i buy a Ferrari and only drive 130 km/h instead of 250 km/h on our german highways.
not sure the reason but it have been don for many generations of pda's from htc maybe the r&d cost of changing their pcb design is bigger then using their current design
or maybe they dont want to wander into the jungle of getting piles of support calls and mail with people wanting usb drivers for this and that not to mention the issue with having to be forced to substain a .5 mAmp output to usb devices with batt issues
and having to handle correct handling of init'ing connected usb devices after on off
But the Flame, Shift and Athena have USB-Host Funtionality you said.
Especially the Flame is much like the Tytn. So the Thing about Drivers, Batt and Current have to be the same.
I wonder in addition a little bit how it came to the sdhc compatibility that was not given under WM5 but now under WM6. For me that means the Hardware of SD is everytime the same, only the Software changes a bit. So the Tytn must accept cards up to 32gig...
Why they do such things will be a mystery on for the future.
I think with conventional explanation attempts it will not be done.
Maybe i will write a mail to HTC and will do the Question again there.
you should not sure if they will reply or even read it but you should all the same
but flame is not a htc device