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Extended Battery

I emailed NeuNeo.com for one of their CFII Extended Battery Wallet which suppose to be available for iPaq with sleeve capability. So I asked them if they have similar product that does the same thing for the XDA and XDA II.
They came back and asked me if our community needs something like extended battery, since they won't be making a CFII Extended Battery Wallet.
I told them about this site and have asked if the XDA community is interested in extending the battery life. This is what I'm talking about... http://www.neodigits.com/products/iPAQ/
Maybe if enough people are interested, they'll make it for us.

You know what would be REALLY great?
A belt holster with integrated battery. Think about it; a place to put your XDA, plus it recharges it. I really miss having a hard plastic holster as I had for my Nokia phones. The battery part would be a big bonus, but I'd take simply a holster.
I'm not impressed at all with the leather book holder/battery.

Wouldnt having a custom made battery be better see this
http://www.mobypower.com/menu04.html
maybe make a 3600 mah like the one for hp6300 series

That's a raw battery, with no holder or connector (other than a generic standard pad). This is just like the internal battery of the XDA II, though of course, you couldn't make it larger and still have it fit. I'd be happy with a batter that sticks out a bit, but it would still require a custom cover for the back.

powerppc said:
I emailed NeuNeo.com for one of their CFII Extended Battery Wallet which suppose to be available for iPaq with sleeve capability. So I asked them if they have similar product that does the same thing for the XDA and XDA II.
They came back and asked me if our community needs something like extended battery, since they won't be making a CFII Extended Battery Wallet.
I told them about this site and have asked if the XDA community is interested in extending the battery life. This is what I'm talking about... http://www.neodigits.com/products/iPAQ/
Maybe if enough people are interested, they'll make it for us.
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Very very interesting...I'd buy it if was avaible for my Qtek2020...

this would be great but i would like to see it in a flip case like the one that comes with the xda2 put me down for one

I like that a lot, I was looking for something like that. I am in for that

Well, a couple interested is better than none. I'll let the manufacturer know.

I'm interested as well. More details to follow I hope.
Ed

NeuNeo Tech said that XDA uses a smart battery.
Does anybody know if other XDA II uses the same battery with different brand naming convention like MDA II. I need a list of similar battery that could be the same as XDA II. I'm not familiar with it.
Thanks.

I'll have some of that.

New Cheap but good Bluetooth GPS module Wanted!

Can anyone recomend a cheap and relatively good bluetooth gps module for the universal (Exec in my case)
Thanks!

gspace
just bought a gspace rs 238, tiny, sirf III inside, usb charger. works fine with my v1640 and tomtom.
thats my 2nd gspace and its cheap but good stuff.
paid it 104 euros delivered at home.
if it helps

I've got a couple of BT-77's - just look them up on eBay. Cheap, cheerful, and they work real well.
Cheers,
Steve.

Just got one of these and cant fault it so far.....plus mini usb charging to match the Exec!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOLOX-Bluetoo...5865435185QQcategoryZ4668QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

DaveUK: that looks nice. For reference, how much did you pay? And how long does the battery last on these things?
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DaveUK said:
Just got one of these and cant fault it so far.....plus mini usb charging to match the Exec!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOLOX-Bluetoo...5865435185QQcategoryZ4668QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I'm sure these units perform ok, but I was put off by the fact that they are blatantly trying to confuse themselves with the Holux BT-231, which is something else all together.
Cheers,
Steve.

thanks guys keep the suggestions coming as im one of these types that will look about sumthing until ive exhausted every possibility to find it for the cheapest price
thanks

I've just bought a Holux GPslim 236 and am over the moon with it.
It works in my coat pocket, glove box or boot. Gets excellent sat lock and has good battery life.
Got mine from www.navpal.co.uk

Does this Holox Bluetooth GPS really exist
I see only on the Sale Site but no Information on the real GPS Providers
The best I can see is 20 Channel GPS's no 32 GPS's
Any review Sites ?

I had a look at the one DaveUK posted...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOLOX-Bluetoo...5865435185QQcategoryZ4668QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
So thought I would email the seller to see if they could offer a discount for quantity for XDA members as I am also after one...
£550 all in was the price they responded with for 10
Don't know if thats much of a saving to be honest

I'd recommend the Globalsat BT-338.
It uses the SirfStar III chipset (one of the best), and gets great reception, even indoors. It also works in my pocket, glovebox etc.
Even better is the 17 hour battery life. It has a bigger mAh battery then the XDA Exec does, but still manages to be really tiny.
A word of warning, though. Don't buy one from eBay, as Globalsat won't support you at all. They won't even offer warranty support unless you buy from an authorised distributor. As mine had an old firmware version, I contacted them to get it updated. Guess what, they won't do it for free, as I didn't buy from an authorised source.
Still, it's a great GPS receiver, and you can get one from an authorised dealer for around £75-80.
Bagpuss.

thanks bagpus, will check it out!
PS: i dont wat this place to be used for advertising btw!

here is the website for the company, looks like its just been set up
http://www.holox.co.uk/

I got one of these for my miniS/Wizard works a treat !
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Bluetooth_GPS_Receiver_001

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I'd recommend the Globalsat BT-338.
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I'd have to second that. I have BT338 and it's a wonderful little unit. I really wish it had mini-USB charging though. I am sick of carrying a zillion power bricks for a zillion devices. Why can't manufacturers standardize on A Good Thing TM

vijay555 said:
DaveUK: that looks nice. For reference, how much did you pay? And how long does the battery last on these things?
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To be honest I havent maxxed the battery out on it yet. Also it has a removable battery pack as well. I'm not 100% but think its a Nokia type battery it uses.
The name does ring with Holux.....but apart from that cant fault tje build quality or operation.
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monakh: you could knock together your own charging cable if it uses a standard jack. I use a retractable sync cable for usb/charging my phone, and then have replacable ends for various types of phones and charging my camera, of an evening. You can buy the necessary pieces from Maplin in the UK or ebay for £4 or less (Tesco had then for £2 after xmas). I can charge my various bluetooth headsets and a sony p900 all from one wire and a bag of nubbins.
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2 Batteries for Kaiser

AT&T lemon-law'd my Tilt (3 qualified warranty repairs means a free upgrade to a Fuze!) and I've got two Kaiser batteries I won't be needing ever again. I'll trade 'em for anything anyone in the forum thinks is a fair deal. I know used batteries are a crapshoot, so I don't expect much, you can just have them for whatever everyone else thinks is fair.
The batteries:
1 - Stock Kaiser battery that came with the phone. DynaPack KAIS160 1350 mAh standard battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Got it in December 2007, still lasts a full day with Bluetooth on and very moderate internet use. I usually get a few hours of video with it, so it's still a good battery.
2 - Cameron Sino battery. CS-TP4550XL 1600 mAh standard sized battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Lasts a full day under same usage conditions, also good for a few hours of video. Bought in September 2008 for a business trip, used about 50% of the time the last few months switching with the other battery.
Also available for anyone who wants it, since I'm only sending AT&T the phone back:
Battery cover
A stylus or two
Anything in the original retail box (including the box itself), if you really want it.
I'll entertain any offer, regardless of how stupid. Obviously, I'd prefer money towards the purchase of a new spare battery for the Fuze/Touch Pro, but I'll take whatever anyone else thinks is fair. I have no expectations. If you're unsure to trust, but are a prominent member of the forum, you can have the batteries first and pay me later after evaluating them.
Anyone have questions about the "lemon" clause of the warranty? This one surprised me and was my Christmas present from AT&T.

send 'em my way and I'll see if they're good. I'll send you some random stuff (I've got a ton of random stuff from car shows, trade shows, etc.. ) in return if they're good to go. If I think they suck, I'll send 'em back and STILL include some random stuff
don't trust me? google my screen name.. I'm not hard to find.

Since no one else seems interested in what amounts to two free batteries, I guess they're all yours. What's the cheapest way to ship?

To 22079, possibly USPS? I'll be sure to return as much to you to make like shipping costs. Hit me up on email at [email protected]

if the offer is still good i'd like a free batter or a stylus or two?
also i'm interested in how you got your replacement fones. I want to get mine replaced(im still under att manufacturer's warranty). What is the best excuse?
My fone has been acting sluggish, calls have been fading in and out, but they keep telling me its the network and not the phone.

htc rafael 2400 or mugen 3000 battery for fuze?

The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?

Mugen 3000mAh
I'll bite; I sprung for the Mugen 3000mAh battery. I think it's great (it comes with it's own battery cover, and admittedly does make the phone significantly more bulky).
I'm not a typical user even for these forums. I routinely tether my laptop to my phone via bluetooth for laptop internet access (two thumbs up for unlimited data plans) and I actually get quite usable speeds (I'm using that setup right now). Plus, I can send and receive calls at the same time. Also, I've got two accounts in the Pocket Outlook, and I've got Flexmail 4 with about 6 or 7 email accounts that sync throughout the day. In addition to that, I use spreadsheets and word documents on it as well as voice calls. So, frankly, I'll take all the power I can get!
When I take it to the gym, I use my Seideio (sp?) 2000mAh battery because it's a lot slimmer and does great with by bluetooth headphones (and I use it as an mp3 player; I'm not one of those types that talks on their phone the entire time they're supposed to be "working out"!).
So if you have to have all the power you can get, like I do, it's not that big of a sacrifice in size for the extra 600mAh. It does make a difference late in the day. Just my $0.02 though.

Good stuff BPB21.
What kind of case do you use for the 3000, if any at all?
Thanks for your help.

Cases
That's an interesting question. Typically I just keep it in my coat pocket at work, or pants pocket otherwise without a case. I've got one of those "Invisible Shield" screen protectors that has protected it even from my cat's claws (touch screen wasn't meant for cats, but no harm done). So typically I don't use a case.
However, I was just looking for some kind of waterproof case, I mean completely waterproof, for when I potentially go rafting and/or rock climbing. I can't vouch for any yet, but I've heard good things about the "Otterbox" cases. I don't plan on actually using the device while in the water of course, but it might be necessary to keep it with me. I'm kinda compulsive about that with my phones. So, as for cases, that remains to be seen. I think the Seidio 2000mAh battery would fit most anything (I don't know about the 2400mAh, but I'm sure I'll own one soon) as it really doesn't add much size at all to the phone. As for the Mugen 3000 mAh, well, I don't know what that would fit in. That battery and case make the phone a total of one inch thick the entire length of the phone. The Seidio battery and cover only add about 1/8th inch thickness in a 1&1/2" width and 1&1/4th" length on the back of the phone.
Anyway, if I find something good I'll post here; but for everyday use just the screen protector works well enough for me.

IF anyone has any suggestions for this battery and a case, i'd be grateful and interested as well. the stock cover that comes from mugen is crap with a capital C. it keeps sliding off.

I 2nd that...
This is true; it is really easy to knock the Mugen cover off. The one saving grace about that cover's design is that even if the cover comes loose you don't necessarily take the battery with it (at least in my experience). I would be interested if anyone can find a cover that fits the 3000 mAh battery. (I mean, other than the submersible Otterbox cases - those fit, but you can't really use the device...)

The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.

Otterbox
dougalls said:
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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I've actually taken the phone skiing (well, I didn't buy it a lift ticket or anything). It was in my ski jacket pocket (and I tend to do runs more advanced than I am) and despite my sometimes dramatic falls the phone held up well. So it's a pretty durable device, but I wouldn't do that every day with it.
Speaking of that Otterbox - I was looking at the same thing and trying to measure it from the given inside dimensions. Which way does it just barely fit: length, width, or thickness? I would think the phone would be just a bit too long for the case, but hopefully not? And then, if I had the Seidio 2000mAh battery (which adds maybe 1/8" thickness, if that) installed would that fit as well?

Otterbox 1900
Hi. I own an otterbox 1900. I´ve used it a lot with my Axim and after that with my Eten m700. I took it rafting, dirt biking on the mountains and snowboarding many times. You can charge the device while in the box, and use the device while keeping it protected by a clear rubber membrane.
The Fuze fits easy inside, but I have the stock cover and battery.

Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I bought one, I have it and it makes your phone look like a brick. hey, the Battery will last days but it is just Huge.

Big batteries
I've got the 3000mAh battery (by the way, I saw the 2400mAh battery on eBay; how does its size compare with the 3000mAh battery?). I use my phone heavily, all day. I'll connect it with my laptop via bluetooth to use internet sharing, sometimes I'll be talking on the phone at the same time, and I heavily use email on the phone, plus Word and Excel files and internet browsing, plus occassional testing and configuring of wifi routers using the phone's wifi, all on a given day. I'm not always near a charger so for me I need all the power I can get, even if it is only an extra 600mAh.
On the other hand, people routinely ask me "what is thbat?" (or more accurately, "what the hell is that?") when they see my brick of a phone. So yeah, it does make it quite bulky compared to even the 2000mAh battery. But if you're a power user and need all the extra you can get then it is worth it.

I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?

New Mugen cover
sanjsrik said:
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.

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Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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Although it has a Sony Ericsson Emblem on it, This is the one I use and it fits perfect.
http://www.malcomwireless.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=34109&refid=froogle

Pics?
Does anyone have any pics of the Fuze with the larger capacity batteries installed?...David.

Here is a Few I just took. My Fuze has a Mugen 3000mAh Battery in it.

BPB21 said:
How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Nothing is different, I am guessing that the new one they sent just didn't fall off as much. Maybe the original one sent was defective.

Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...

dpcole72 said:
I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.

sanjsrik said:
A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capac...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244649963&sr=1-4

Double capacity battery, new source in UK

Hi
I've just purchased and received one of these http://www.superetrader.co.uk/extended-battery-for-htc-touch-diamond-2200mah-p-4207.html
Only £10.00 so couldn't go wrong really. The back in my opinion is better than some others I've seen as it doesn't bulge out then in, but is flat apart from the recess for the camera.
The back cover is glossy and doesn't have the same quality paint job as the original which is perhaps to be expected however you can't tell unless you look hard, and you could always spray over it if you wanted to and have a matt finish. It fits perfectly.
I haven't given it a run yet to check the battery life time but it should be double what it is now.
Thought it might be of interest for UK owners.
Regards
Phil

Sounds very good... I like the fact that it doesn't add extra size or distort the shape of the device, as one would expect with a battery of such a capacity. As a result, although I already owned a 1350mAh battery, I ordered this one too.

jcan said:
Sounds very good... I like the fact that it doesn't add extra size or distort the shape of the device, as one would expect with a battery of such a capacity. As a result, although I already owned a 1350mAh battery, I ordered this one too.
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Well, it is indeed interesting, but you are mistaken if you think that it does not add extra size: your d2 will be, judging from the pic, about 3 mm thicker. What the original poster meant was that those 3mm are constant over the whole backplate, it is not a bulge limitted to the battery. I think 3mm is acceptable, even if it mean it will not fit in any case :-(...
I'll wait a little bit to see if extended batteries fitting in the original backplate appear. Not 2 times the capacity obviously, this would not be physically possible, but a 1300-1400 mAh should be possible I think. Like your 1350 mAh for example Did you check the battery life compared to the original? improved, or not?
If not, this battery is an option

Well, I have a silicon case from PDAir, and my hope is that it can be stretched a bit to accommodate the extra 3mm... But even if it doesn't, I would still opt for the prolonged battery life against the case: My 1350 mAh battery is an improvement from the original, but nothing too spectacular. If for example I play games, or use the phone actively, I still have problems in making it through the day...
What I wouldn't like from a battery at all, is to seriously affect the size, or distort the shape of the device. But as far as I understand, this is not the case with this one... Who knows? It may even fit in my silicon case, as I mentioned earlier... We will know soon about that!

I think it's good to have a battery that lasts longer, but the bricks again no, it is better to have an extra battery and charger base.

This is the disadvantage of the MDA-Compact V. Overall a prettier phone than the vanilla TD2, but i'd give my back teeth for this battery...

Hi
The thinkness is more than 3mm extra, probably around 6mm, and I'd be quite surprised if a silicone case would stretch enough. As already mentioned I didn't mean the back was the same thickness as the original, just it was flat and uniform so didn't look as odd.
It does make the phone more brick like, I quite like it as it feels better to hold on a phone call, but will not be to everyone's taste, especially if you like slipping it into pockets. But for £10 it is quite a bargain if you really need the extra battery life time and apart from having a spare battery or a charging pack it is the best option available at the moment I think.
I expect the battery to last twice as long being twice the capacity. So far it's been on 100% all day even though I've had a couple of quick phone calls and sent and received a handful of text messages.
Case wise it will not fit a case designed for the Topaz, but now fits perfectly in a Tytn II case.
Regards
Phil

jcan said:
My 1350 mAh battery is an improvement from the original, but nothing too spectacular. If for example I play games, or use the phone actively, I still have problems in making it through the day...
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By the way, where did you buy your 1350 mAh battery?
Mine last exactly one day when I use the device a lot...Well, a lot for me: my typical heavy usage is not to use the TD2 constantly, nor playing much games...mostly I make a few pics, use the GPS a little and read ebooks a lot. I could theoretically empty my TD2 in less than one day... but in practice it has never happened, even if very close.
I think your 1350 mAh would suit me great, a little extra security and I will have the original battery as a backup when away from a plug for more than a day (typically, long plane trips...), this way I will not have to worry about saving my main battery to still be able to make an emergency call...
I think that given my use case, it would be better than this 2200 mAh, which is very nice, but too bulky for me :-/

I bought it from here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG

Does the 1350 battery perform noticably better than the standard 1100?

As I said, nothing too impressive...

Just bought the 2200 mAh battery. The size is indeed bigger, and although the phone's shape is unchanged, it does bevome more brick-like. As some people correctly predicted in this forum, the silicon case cannot be used with this size (although if the size was marginally smaller, I think it would work, but anyhow this is just theoretical...).
I believe that the choice of a 2200 mAh battery is just a matter of personal taste: I personally vote for the extra hours that I use my device even if I have to sacrifice the small size, but then this is just me...

By the way, does anyone know if larger silicon cases exist in the market, which can accommodate the thicker TD2?

Hi
The double capacity battery is running great. It's odd as it seems to provide a lot more than double the run time of the original battery. I have to wonder if the original supplied battery is really providing the power it claims
Regards
Phil

Still satisfied with the 2200 mAh battery?
What about the back cover? Does it fit nicely? Getting looser since started using it?