SMS from PC - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Observation:-
When the Wizard is plugged into the PC via it's USB cable, Active Sync checks both the PC and the Device and synchronises all Files, Folders and Exchange/Email data between both.
Hypothesis:-
Presuming that the synchronisation is driven from the PC and not the device, the PC uses commands to push and pull data from the device including Exchange stuff. The device allows all data transfer with no questions asked.
Hypothetically speaking it should be possible to activate all the commands used to push/pull (send/recieve) SMS from the device, allowing a user to run a piece of software while the phone is connected to the PC which will grab all SMS's from the device and display them on the PC.
This would allow people to send/recieve/file/delete SMS's from their PC which would be much quicker, neater and easier than from the device itself.
Conclusion:-
If someone has a list of the commands used for SMS functions I'd be happy to look into the possibility of programming such a piece of software for the community... That is of course unless there's already software out there with this functionality.

Well, there's...
http://www.jeyo.com/extender.asp
...but it only adds SMS capabilities to Outlook, really.

Another workaround
I know it's not as nice as an intergrated product would be, but I use the "Windows CE Remote Display" from Microsoft successfully with my device and just remote in to send/recieve my sms's on the xda's Inbox software, with a 2x Zoom and some predictive typing the process is almost flawless, even with a little bit of lag over the USB 1.1 connection.

blackobsidian said:
If someone has a list of the commands used for SMS functions I'd be happy to look into the possibility of programming such a piece of software for the community... That is of course unless there's already software out there with this functionality.
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It has been done by someone else already
Have a look here.

Yeah this would be really great and IMO should be part of the package.
I mean if the phone is activesync'd then it should route all communications to the host pc. A few years back I had a Sony Ericsson and connecting to my pc via bluetooth with FMA was a dream - sms's would popup with a nice interface (akin to msn messenger), and calls handled by the speakers/mic...
To be honest its a bit of a shame that nothing (that I can find) allows this kind of integration with WM5 considering that integration is one of the plus points...
Perhaps in time it will happen...

SMS Utilities
Has anyone tried some of the SMS utils listed on the site scaw posted? Seems there are a couple that offer SMS from the PC. Not sure about speaker and mic capabilities though.
http://ukaywares.blogspot.com/
Nice site scaw!

Thanks guys!
I'm using "Dr. Neil's SMS Utils" now and it's saved me a lot of code research

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SMS + Linux

I have been trying to find a good way to just hook my qtek s100 up to my linux workstation and write SMS messages through it.
For Windows we have outlook extenders, which give you a new SMS-folder in outlook and sending an sms becomes as easy as sending mail with outlook.
On Linux, on the other hand, we only seem to have "synce", for connecting to a pocket pc PDA.
I've got synce up and running, but I can only manage files (copy, move, remove, and so on).
There is one interesting command, however: prun, for running programs on the pocket pc. So I was thinking: all I really need is a program to start on the pocket pc that takes a phone number as one parameter and the message as another: pocket_sms "050 123 123" "well hello there" or similar. Do you know of any such program?
Another way would be to somehow be able to put a correctly formatted message in the outbox and hope the phone just sees it and sends it away. (or perhaps a send command could be issued somehow).
I would appreciate any insight you may have in this matter. Thanks!
-JJ
AT commands should do the trick..
A simple script, could isert your number and text into a standard AT command set for sending SMS..
But that's about as much as I can tell you..
Bonzo said:
AT commands should do the trick..
A simple script, could isert your number and text into a standard AT command set for sending SMS..
But that's about as much as I can tell you..
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I did some research and found that on a phone edition pocket pc, the device uses two cpu:s with two separate OS:es: one for the phone part and one for the pda -part. (This is what I read anyway and I'm not sure whether it is correct).
It was also said, that the PDA knows of a serial port that is the connection to the phone, but that this serial port would be reserved by the PDA OS (Windows CE) when the device is on.
So right now I have no idea how to send at-commands to the phone from either Linux or from the PDA, but I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks for the tip!
-J
Doh!
Yeah, I just remembered..
I think you'll have to start "Wireless Modem" to use AT commands on the XDA..
This however, disables your device as a phone when in use.. (I think..)
Sorry for the OT but, Do you use Synce via bluetooth?
Because I had no success to do it work :evil: the magician remains like this http://assente.altervista.org/?q=node/view/119 and the PC gives me no output.
Here's what I did http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1219084&forum_id=96106
Please help me!
Have you tried also Multisync to sinchronize the conctacts?
Thanks in advance
assente said:
Sorry for the OT but, Do you use Synce via bluetooth?
Have you tried also Multisync to sinchronize the conctacts?
Thanks in advance
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Hi!
No, I don't use bluetooth, but I recall having seen some discussion about it on the Gentoo forums (I'm a gentoo user myself):
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-284821-highlight-synce+bluetooth.html
Unfortunately, the guy doesn't seem to be quite there yet, but perhaps it will benefit you to monitor their discussion, even if you don't use Gentoo.
I stopped using BT for connections to the computer, since I usually install some program or copy files. I prefer the USB cable because of its higher speed and because it recharges the device at the same time.
I also sync against an exchange server, so I get all contacts, all mail and calendar items synced with the server every 10 minutes. That's just unbeatable, since my gprs-rate is flat (and my company pays for it).
The only odd thing is, that tasks can't be synced over gprs (but over intellisync to the PC it's the most natural thing). What's that all about?
Hope you solve your problems.
-J
Thank you for interesting.
I'm a Gentoo user and I'm that "guy", too
I can't make working synce via usb.. so I'll try synce via USB.
BT is very nice for small files, but USB is the best for the bigger one.
Sorry again,.. which instruction did u follow to set up the device?
did u add some patches to the kernel? http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usb_linux.php#many
Code:
$ dccm -f -d 4
dccm[15947]: Running in foreground
dccm[15947]: Running command: /home/utente/.synce/scripts/trayicon.sh start
synce-trayicon: nessun processo terminato
dccm[15947]: Listening for connections on port 5679
Code:
synce-serial-start
synce-serial-start is now waiting for your device to connect
but I don't see pppd in the log :evil:
Well, going back to the original post, I think there is a nicer way to write SMS messages with your computer; just use KCeMirror. You can install it with synce-kde which gives you additional 3 utilities to control your PDA; RAPIP, RAKI and vdccm. I believe you will have to use KDE window manager to get everything working right.
My system is Debian Testing, and synce-kde and kcemirror packages are available through dselect.
By using Kcemirror I get a mirrored window of my PDA on my laptop desktop and use my mouse and keyboard to easily type out and send an SMS, and do just about anything else on the PDA. Very nice.
As for the synchronization issues, there is another thread on it at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20803&highlight=linux
hope someone can help there.
sfque said:
By using Kcemirror I get a mirrored window of my PDA on my laptop desktop and use my mouse and keyboard to easily type out and send an SMS, and do just about anything else on the PDA. Very nice.
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Thanks! That is excellent news indeed! I will give it a try, although I'm not really a KDE-person myself. I'm using k3b too, so I guess I can live with one more kde-app.
-J
Hi out there,
just wanted to let you know, I'm also using KCeMirror. Works like a charm for me. Even for pickin' up calls, I don't have to touch the magician... :lol:
Greetings,
BGK

my own sync-software

hi everybody!
i'm really tired of all software for synchronization between desktop and ppc... i have an xda mini (or whatever you guys call them, qtek s100) and i run pocket informant...
on my pc i've currently got outlook (which i don't like very much), and syncing using activesync is a pain in the * (for many reasons which i don't have time right now to explain)!
now to my question... i would like to create my own software for my pc, with a simple layout, a database and a few functions to be able to manage my PIM on my desktop... the problem is the syncing... it should be able to communicate with my device through usb...
i also need do know more about the way my device stores contacts, tasks, appointments etc in databases... no point in doing the usb communication if i don't know what to get from the device...
does anyone know alot about these things, or perhaps where to turn?
thanks!
- mikael
Have you heard about the commercial software Intellisync? It's expensive but better than ActiveSync. Maybe you'll give that a try before you start programming.
intellisync
no, haven't tried that.... the thing with most commersial software is that it's often crowded with functionality you don't need... as i said, i would like a simple program with just a few features and functions...
however, i'll take a look at intellisync, but i still would be very happy for any replies to my first question...
- mikael

MOSA (Microsoft Outlook SMS Add-in)

I just installed this free Outlook add-in from M$ and it was supposed to be something to send sms through PC, backup sms, something like what Jeyo Mobile extender does (my assumption because I still can't get it to work with my wizard).
Anybody know how to make this thing work?
I'm stuck in the "Options >> Select Mobile Phone" and my wizard does not show up even though I have it connected via USB and Active Sync.
this is the link to the plug in
English
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/2/c/52cf7459-ee75-481d-b75f-f883679bab29/mosa_usEN.exe
German
http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/7/3/b730eb8e-88d1-46d0-b52f-2f2b52c90543/mosa_deDE.exe
Italian
http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/a/d/4ad8507f-8223-4253-9f66-da346389e811/mosa_itIT.exe
I am currently investigation exactly the same, with exactly the same problem.
It looks like we have to install the modem drivers for our respective devices (Kaiser for me) in order for the phone to appear on the list, as implied by the "modems" button.
However I don't have any experience beyond the fact that in various different modes the phone can appear to the OS as various different devices for various different comms purposes, and it only connects with ActiveSync in certain modes.
This leads me to wonder if it is actually possible to install the modem driver to allow the sending of SMS messages using Outlook, while at the same time remaining connected to ActiveSync in order to maintain a connection to my PC/Exchange.
Any additional tips would be appreciated.
Use icq
j/k.. i'm gonna try it and see...
Not for PPCs
Won't work for PPCs, this is useful for regular mobile phones not Windows Mobile powered. For that you will need something like Jeyo or Pocket SMS. Sorry folks.
Any luck on this? Still trying to figure it out :s
I doubt there is any solution on this. I played on it for a bit and now agree with what Kull is stating.
Aggreed. Went to Jeyo Mobile Companion instead.

Send + Recieve SMS on PC?..

Hi guys, i am just wondering if there is any good software which lets you send and receive text msgs via my laptop or pc while the phone is connected with bluetooth or usb cable?
or does outlook somehow let you do it?
or pretty much any cool diamond management software.?
thanks.
ryan
I use Jeyo Mobile Companion, and it pretty much does what you're looking for.
It also lets you backup/restore Messages,Contacts and Call History.
It is not a freeware, and you can get the trial from here:
www.jeyo.com
Yeah I second using the Jeyo software- I have been doing so on devices running WM2003 up to the most recent. Good for backing up SMSs too.
I have always had one issue or another with this type of software which is why I prefer to use something like this: http://www.mymobiler.com/
It is like a Remote Desktop Connection to your phone and gives you full mouse/keyboard support as well as Copy & Paste from/to PC/Phone.
I use Efficasoft Mobile Express (http://www.efficasoft.com). I don't know what Jeyo is like (sounds quite cool) but I can tell you I love this app.
It works, is easy to use, has outlook-style pop-ups when a new text arrives and the best bit - if you like to flash new ROMs from time to time then you don't need to reinstall it - next time you run the PC app with your phone sync'd, it just reinstalls the phone component and carries on - no soft reset or stuff like that required.
You can also manage your contacts with it too (albeit somewhat basic and nothing like Outlook but quick and easy).
It's not free, but it's cheap (got my from handango.com)
** Updated **
Since reading this thread I've installed MyMobiler to try it out - is cool and useful for other stuff but it's too slow and pedestrian for writing text with - the predictive text gets in the way so I now use Efficasoft Mobile Express for sending text from my PC, and MyMobiler for playing other apps on my diamond from my PC.

FMA-like program for WinMo?

Greetings,
A long long time ago (I can still remember...ok, enough of that) when I had a Sony Ericsson V630i, I used a program called Float's mobile agent. It allowed access to just about everything on the phone from my PC when I plugged it in - contacts, files, SMS system. I could edit contacts on my pc and send messages/emails etc through it. It was a great piece of kit. However, there doesn't appear to be any HTC/WinMo support in it.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any programs that offered similar functionality for WinMo devices?

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