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Full backup

Now i've got my xda mini S working pretty much as id like, i would like to perform a full backup to my mini SD card incase of a crash which requires a hard reset. It's important that i would be able to restore the system when 'on the road' and possibly away from a pc.
On my dell axim there is a backup to SD card util but i cant see anything similar on the xda mini s. Anyone help/recommend something.
thanks,
malty

You have to use a 3rd parts app. I use SPB backup, works well but there are others.

as i said i need something that can be run from sd without a full install to the pda. This is so i can restore without having to connect to a pc. Any apps that can install and / or run from the pda sd card will do

SPB backup stores the backup as an executable on the SD card that you can run to restore your system, PC not needed.

absolutely ideal thanks mate
will grab that app now
cheers,
malty

Sprite used to be my favorite, but they've let me down lately.
Spb is excellent!

I would like to take advantage of SPB backup but I have heard rumors that it won't restore to the newest Qtek rom properly. Does anyone have any input on this?

seems perfect to me but i guess you dont really know until you need it. Just made a backup .exe and moved a copy to my pc for safe keeping in case the sd card goes down too. My mind is now at rest cheers guys.

fowen said:
I would like to take advantage of SPB backup but I have heard rumors that it won't restore to the newest Qtek rom properly. Does anyone have any input on this?
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Yup - I am on the new rom and I have just done a restore..... dont ask me why I had to restore....
.... ok I will tell you .....
.... I had to resore after I upgraded to the latest level of SPB Backup (v1.1.2 build 2050). Strange as this happened to me before when I upgraded. All was fine when I installed the new version from scratch last time. Not gonna try it again this time though, v1.1.1 is good enough. At least I know it works !!

im using 1.1.1 on an o2 xda mini s flashed with the imate rom. Havent had to do a restore yet but am hoping im safe.

I use sunnysoft backup manager and it work well, it can creat .exe backup file so i can easy restore late when my device go down or upgrade new rom.

I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.

Menneisyys said:
I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.
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May be i'm stupid but I can back up only PIM (contact...) with sunny on my charmer. Or charmer is not using WinCE?

Asturias said:
Menneisyys said:
I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.
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May be i'm stupid but I can back up only PIM (contact...) with sunny on my charmer. Or charmer is not using WinCE?
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Strange it is working with your PPC - which Sunnysoft version are you using?

My version is:
Sunnysoft Backup Manager 3.7 wm5

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Hi all,
you know this problem?
1-hard reset
2-installed spritebackup and others software
3-create backup
4-hard reset
5-restore backup
this is the result.
as I can restore the complete page ?

Tuco said:
Hi all,
you know this problem?
1-hard reset
2-installed spritebackup and others software
3-create backup
4-hard reset
5-restore backup
this is the result.
as I can restore the complete page ?
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Hi,
from experience in the past with Sprite backup I'm prefered using spb backup since long time ago.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
No problems at all with any devices (Loox 720, MDA Vario, Ameo, etc pp.)

Thanks for the fast answer.I will try .

I´am using SPB BackUp and there are no problems

SPB Backup V Sprite Backup Manager

Has anyone tried both of the above? Which is regarded as better?
Do they backup everything?
I need to send my machine back to HTC for a repair and they say it will lose everything so I will back it up. So I want to back up everything!
Before I get a program to do this can anyone shed some light on which is best and why?

Vote for SPB. Extremely fool proof. Havent used Sprite.

My Vote is for SPB
I have been using SPB for 2 years and I have to say it is the best for me , easy to customize and quick, has all the features that u need. creates a self extracting restore file u don't need to reinstall SPB to use it. Give it a try. Sprite is just as good I have used it as well but I have to recommend SPB for ease of use.
Ed...

Spb for me too.
If i remember correctly Sprite does NOT Backup the Registry.

Vote for SPB too.
I never have a problem with.

ausi said:
Spb for me too.
If i remember correctly Sprite does NOT Backup the Registry.
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So, from a hard reset by starting the self extracting executable my device would be returned to its original state? Is that correct?

for_me, Spb Backup

Sprite is more capable - can restore to a different device something spb cannot do?

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And what if you change ROM in the meantime? Or if you upgrade to WM6 and the backup was done on the WM5?

The FD said:
So, from a hard reset by starting the self extracting executable my device would be returned to its original state? Is that correct?
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Exactly correct!!........i do it all the time without any problems.

sabestian said:
And what if you change ROM in the meantime? Or if you upgrade to WM6 and the backup was done on the WM5?
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Neither Sprite nor Spb will help you there, remember you're basically changing the OS while your installed programs relate to the installed OS at that time.

ausi said:
Neither Sprite nor Spb will help you there, remember you're basically changing the OS while your installed programs relate to the installed OS at that time.
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So they don't actually change the OS back to the version that was previously installed? All the programs do is put back what system settings and programs were previously installed?
Is that correct?

The FD said:
So they don't actually change the OS back to the version that was previously installed? All the programs do is put back what system settings and programs were previously installed?
Is that correct?
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Yes!......... they are basically a Backup program which when in trouble they will restore your Device to the same state and configuration as when you did the backup. This saves a lot of time when you Device gets totally stuck and needs a "Hard" Reset.......then you only need to double click on the backup exe. file (which should be on your SD card) and "Walla" you get it all back without having to waste hours in reloading your original programs.

I tried WM6 upgrade! (Looking now for WM5 ROM.)

Well, finally I tried the (official) upgrade from WM5 (1.8.407.1) to WM6.
I found detailed instructions using SpriteBackup 3.14 or higher. And since Version 5.01 were deliverd with my Herald, I gave it a try!
But that's were this endless night began...
The instructions used "GetUpgradeData.exe" from Sprite Software.
This is what I did:
- I created a complete Backup with Sprite Backup 5.01.
- I did a hard-reset.
- I run the "GetUpgradeData.exe" and got a sbu-file I stored.
- I actually performed the ROM-upgrade
- I installed Sprite Backup.
But wenn I tried to restore the Backup I made earlier I didn't found the "Upgrade-Mode" that was mentioned in the instructions and which I created the sbu-file for.
On the Sprite-Homepage, I got the information, that this functions seems to exist only since 5.1!
So I installed the newest version as trial. But this damn software doesn't restore backup made with older versions of itself! :-O
Since I found no possibility to makes Sprite Backup 6 *do* this, I decided to give 5.01 a try nevertheless. But it didn't work. I actually can't remember anymore, what error came exactly in this situation, but I realized it would work.
Since then I look for a downgrade to restore my backup on good old WM5.0 and try the whole szenario with Sprite 5.1 (I don't like 6).
I actually *found* a WM5-ROM, but it's not 1.8.407.1, it's 5.4.407.1.
- I "updated" the ROM, WM5 runs fine.
- I installed Sprite 5.01.
- I run Sprite 5.01 and got an error mentioning to little free memory!
- I performed a hard-reset, installed Sprite and tried to restore selected parts of the backup to need less memory. It ends successful, but during the following Warm-Start I get repeatetly the error that "The last cold-start" wasn't complete. So it performs a new reset by itself.
And that *are* my possibilities:
- restore all and have to little memory
or
- restore parts an get this weird error.
Why is this? and How can I change it?
I still have the hope that a 1.8.407.1-ROM would fix all problems. But where to take from. :-((
Any ideas how I can save my Herald? Please? It's 7am now an I'm puzzeling for 5 hours now. I want everything back to normal! :-(
Thanks for every help you can give me...

I didn´t really read the howl thread - but
NEVER try to take a WM5 backup to work with a WM6 Rom!!!
You never treid to use a Windows 95 backup on a Windows Vista PC???
So why you wanne restore a backup from a complete different Rom??
Install all new. NEVER use a backup when flashing a new rom.
Just my 2 cents

papamopps said:
I didn´t really read the howl thread
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No matter. It's just one posting. ;-)
NEVER try to take a WM5 backup to work with a WM6 Rom!!!
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Just my 2 cents
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Well, my two, too, until yesterdey, when I learnd about that option in Sprite Backup. I quote from the manual of "Sprite Backup 6":
http://www.spritesoftware.com/downloads/SpriteBackupHelp.pdf said:
Setting Upgrade Mode Options
Sprite Backup automatically detects if the restore process is being performed between different devices or ROM versions and automatically enables this function and you will be asked to select the type of 'Upgrade Mode' operation you wish to perform.
ROM: Use this option to perform restore operations between the same devices with different ROM revisions. For example: restoring from a KJAM ROM 2.16.9 to a KJAM AKU2 ROM version.
Device: Use this option when you wish to restore across devices and ROM versions. For example: When restoring a backup file created on a WM2005 KJAM device onto a WM 2006 JAZJAR device.
Safe: If your device does not boot after performing a ‘ROM Upgrade’ or ‘Device Upgrade’ restore use the ‘Safe Upgrade’ operation.
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The problem is that my version of Sprite Backup does not have this capability unexpectetly. Which I realized when it was to late.

one comment of a nearly flashaddict:
i ALLWAYS install all new. it is much faster after a few month when you make a hardreset and flash new......
believe me. i flashed so many roms - and allways installed it completely new!!

Sure you are right. And actually that's my choice now.
I made it to restore at least my personal data in WM5, backed them up new and restorem *them* on new installed WM6.
Now I'm on the configurating, installing, reconstructing part. :-((

SPB Backup after new ROM

If i will backup with SPB Backup and than flash new ROM (Open Touch v4.0 | WM 6.1 | T-Mobile Wing!) and use SPB Backup to restore, will it work?

No, if you flash a new (different) Rom your "old" backup which is "based" upon the previous Rom will not work...

and there is no other way how to backup my programs and setups right?

cfds said:
No, if you flash a new (different) Rom your "old" backup which is "based" upon the previous Rom will not work...
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Why can't you do a selective restore instead of a complete restore? I have flashed various ROMs and then done it on my MDA. I have even used a complete restore on a different T-Mobile ROM and it worked. What can you loose by trying it. Sure some of the Reg Settings will be wrong. You can always HardReset back. No Pain - No Gain.

Thanx
Thanks a bunch for all u hard work people keep up the good work.